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Comparing & Testing Several Valve Core Removal Tools 

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How Hard is it to remove leaking shrader valve cores? We're about to find out, I'll let you decide which is the best.
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@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
Follow up video on how to fix Appion ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lO8DauRaMyQ.htmlsi=-l0YzRl9tUJeJwZC
@shifter8207
@shifter8207 Месяц назад
With appion you can squeeze the teeth together to get a proper tension on the core
@buzz6792
@buzz6792 Месяц назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pb5BB8Up2Lg.htmlsi=yX0f7_y5GePIOnZ2
@acrservicesmathewr7565
@acrservicesmathewr7565 Месяц назад
Yes it should click onto the shredder which will not allow it to pull off. They come new not clamped so this needs to be done
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
Yes I mentioned that, some people said theirs were too tight out of the box
@rgmatta3524
@rgmatta3524 Месяц назад
very informative video. Well done!
@RileyKnifeandTool
@RileyKnifeandTool Месяц назад
Good to know about the Fieldpiece 5/16" adapter. I usually double up the Appion if I want to isolate my micron gauge. It's little bit of a pain, but it works, and it's only slightly bulkier than the Fieldpiece 😄. Can't say I've ever had much issue with the cores falling out, but I think I did have to adjust the tension on one of them, which is easy enough to do. If I had it to do over, I'd probably grab a couple of Fieldpieces with the adapter.
@Eddy63
@Eddy63 Месяц назад
Well , like Curt , you did a good demo & review as well ... Thx
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
Thanks Eddy
@johnnyprotalk3352
@johnnyprotalk3352 29 минут назад
jb one is pretty cool i have to try that one
@fshn76
@fshn76 Месяц назад
Great video. I use my JB a lot now but may be in the market for new ones soon. Might have to give the FP ones a try.
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
Talk to Curt, he's been using them in the field quite a bit.
@flyinghigh5531
@flyinghigh5531 Месяц назад
I only have the first appion model for both sizes. I noticed when I remove the core, I have to back the threads out off the service port so the gasket isn’t smashed, and kinda wiggle the tool so it comes out easier, it can be a pain. Also, I’ve ran into service ports that are smashed from people over tightening the non gasketed caps, so getting the cores out is impossible😅 great review, I’m glad I’m not the only one!
@Eddy_HVAC
@Eddy_HVAC Месяц назад
The amazon are the best ones!!! Hands down 😂😂😂😂 I’ll probably get the one with the sight glass
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
😂 someone told me why are these better than my $15 Amazon one, I was like na nvm 🤣
@stueyknuxx
@stueyknuxx Месяц назад
Have got 2x of the Navac ones, used both 1/4 and 5/16 sizes at least half a dozen times each , no issues at all so far 👌
@willllo
@willllo Месяц назад
ive got that navac ones too. great build and no issues too. decent price as well. not sure where you are but in the UK the appion stuff is ridiculous £100+ for a core remover is crazy.
@juicyHTX
@juicyHTX Месяц назад
I’ve found with the Appion VCRT they can be a bit of a pain to remove the core once you have it unthreaded. There’s a trick to it, loosen the tool until you start to bleed pressure then screw it back in slightly and they come up every time.
@buzz6792
@buzz6792 Месяц назад
They are ajustable… ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pb5BB8Up2Lg.htmlsi=yX0f7_y5GePIOnZ2
@HVACOG
@HVACOG Месяц назад
Thanks for that
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
adjustable tension with pliers, I did a follow up video
2 дня назад
With Accutools VCR I found out that main reason to failure to remove core lies in rubber gasket. If you tighten too much the tool on valve, you fail almoust every time. Removing core is best with litlle losse tightening of tool. What frustrates me is they all pretty quick lost their 20 micron rating for vacuum pulling and even leak liquid refrigerant when I filling initial refrigerant charge.
@mattwoodbridge7924
@mattwoodbridge7924 Месяц назад
Thanks for the vid, I have a 1/4 and 5/16 from accutools. I'll stick with what I have, but if I ever need another tool, I'll try fieldpeice.
@brandonorozco6141
@brandonorozco6141 10 дней назад
C&D valve core removal tool hasn't failed me
@johnnyprotalk3352
@johnnyprotalk3352 27 минут назад
mini splits is where the larger ones have issues because of where some put their ports
@Airbender-kl7cu
@Airbender-kl7cu 4 дня назад
I was using the APion As a splitter / shut-off on my Fieldpiece recovery pump, and noticed the Apion kept working Loose from the vibration 😢 so now I want to get the fieldpiece one that has a sight-glass built in.
@johnnyprotalk3352
@johnnyprotalk3352 34 минуты назад
in response to the appion remover that one is the second generation, there is video they have to adjust the tip.
@willg574
@willg574 Месяц назад
I've mostly used Appion. Couldn't stand the NAVAC tool that broke apart under pressure. Recently started using the JB VCRT's. I'm super interested in the Fieldpiece VCRT's. I had two Appion 1/4" VCRT lose the vacuum I was pulling after isolating the system. For whatever reason the shut off valve would over rotate and create a gap. One was older and one was brand new out of the box.
@joefuentez1972
@joefuentez1972 Месяц назад
We also have the same issue with the appion core remover. Always
@gp9616
@gp9616 Месяц назад
Have always had the same issue with the appions. Brand new out of the box they won't grab them. Usually end up using pressure to shoot out the cores which doesn't always work then working on a running low temp rack running under 20 psi
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
Yup. You gotta adjust the ends with pliers is that helps. They usually need to be tweaked
@thesilentonevictor
@thesilentonevictor Месяц назад
Removal tool madness
@williampfendler1786
@williampfendler1786 Месяц назад
I’ve had trouble with the Appion and found that you can’t tighten the valve on the port as it squishes the oring gasket making the opening to small for the core
@search_eternal
@search_eternal Месяц назад
I just used my Appion the other day and it worked fine. It snapped on and held the core. Looks like yours isn't snapping on.
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
Had to be adjusted, I made a video on how to because a lot of people didn't know that
@Puffalupagus360
@Puffalupagus360 Месяц назад
You can easily adjust the grabber on the appion vcrts with a set of needle nose pliers like it explains and shows in the instructions manual.
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
Yup did a video on it
@jmstroupe
@jmstroupe Месяц назад
Are any of the core wrenches compatible with any of the other valves?
@joeopalomino1028
@joeopalomino1028 Месяц назад
Your video appeared to show bias against Appion and in favor of Fieldpiece. However, it's worth noting that Fieldpiece also didn't grab on the first attempt. In my experience as someone who uses both tools in the refrigeration industry, space is a crucial consideration and sometimes the size of the Fieldpiece makes it impractical. Regarding the Appion's grabbing issue, I find that frequently pinching the ends is necessary for it to effectively grab the cores.
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
Not biased 😂 they all had the same test. If you have to pinch them then they ain't making them right. If anything I said I liked something from each of them And yes space is crucial, I do refrigeration. That appion lever has got caught up on things for me so I like the FP knob. Not biased just things I've noticed using them. And I purposely left in that fieldpiece needed 2 attempts
@chewielewie6564
@chewielewie6564 Месяц назад
I've bought Schrader depressors / core removal. JB / Yellow Jacket / C&D / all the gaskets eventually melt and the tools are useless. Good luck getting new gaskets in them. I've recently bought Appions. Well see if they hold up better.
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
My appion depressors gaskets just got shredded, I'll see if they're replaceable
@Christopher._M
@Christopher._M 29 дней назад
The question is which one is the best deal and which one last longer?
@tombalboni2143
@tombalboni2143 28 дней назад
Lol, I've only used Appion so far as they started the "vacuum rated" mantra.. Have rebuilt and been frustrated by all appion models. Be prepared for sticker shock when you buy the Appion oring rebuild kit. WAY too expensive for a couple Fin O-rings. When my current appion orings go bad, I'm switching to the fieldpiece. Be thankful you never had to rebuild the 1st gen appions in the field. There are TWO orings stacked up front and almost impossible to replace both without damage. And somewhere in a field in NC there sits 2 Fin 1st gen vcrts rotting in hell..
@marciomaciel8886
@marciomaciel8886 24 дня назад
I believe the Fieldpiece has the best built vctr, followed by the JB. I have Appion and Uniweld and I like the later better
@eyestosea
@eyestosea 16 дней назад
I use Appion for my evacuations and reinstalling cores only, for it's vacuum rated body. Not a service tool for replacing cores under pressure. The NAVAC core tool has been ok so far
@Puffalupagus360
@Puffalupagus360 Месяц назад
With the appion 2 things are vital 1 is that the grabber is adjusted properly which is where the grabber does click onto the core and 2 DO NOT over tighten the vcrt body to the port as if you do the inner o-ring will get squashed such that the inside clearance reduces enough to grab the core. If you have problems getting the core out with an appion try loosening the end a lil bit at a time. Until I figured that part out it wouldn't work for me. As far as the jb goes ive had 2 so far and they both leaked at the lever fresh outta the box. I gave up on those. As for the accutools I really dislike the grabber end and it hasn't worked out for me yet.
@leealtmansr.3811
@leealtmansr.3811 Месяц назад
I would love the JB (torque) with a site glass. A cross between FP and JB. We should be checking the valve core torque.
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
I would love to put them all together for the ultimate tool 🤘🏽
@NANNYGRITZ1
@NANNYGRITZ1 12 дней назад
I’ve been having the same issues with my appions…it always does that bs
@Jordanely-ko2up
@Jordanely-ko2up 15 дней назад
Core removal tool? I didn’t know that even existed I just use a core tip screw driver given to me By the local supply house Just make sure area is clear put a brick in the Core path and let it rip
@sanproekt
@sanproekt 8 дней назад
How You can do it under pressure?
@bphc1969
@bphc1969 Месяц назад
Appion has a video and you should pinch them or expand them every time to get a tight fit but I will get the FIELDPIECE ones just because I love FIELDPIECE
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
👍🏽
@sykotictendencies6032
@sykotictendencies6032 Месяц назад
I use an extra to adjust the grabber.
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
I noticed you really need to
@sykotictendencies6032
@sykotictendencies6032 Месяц назад
I’ve had a few different brands and they all needed adjusting . If i didn’t already have 4 of the 1/4” and 2 of the 5/16” the field piece would be a no brainer but I ain’t buying any more . Haha If they want to send me one I’d use it of course . Hehe
@sykotictendencies6032
@sykotictendencies6032 Месяц назад
I adjust them when I first got them so i wasn’t doing it when needed .
@Roadkill750
@Roadkill750 18 дней назад
I despise the Appion's never has worked in years of use....I always blow it out with the gas pressure.
@marcoferreira226
@marcoferreira226 Месяц назад
I have purchased CPS core removal tools for the price there "F/N" great
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
Jake told me that one was good, haven't tried it yet
@johnnyprotalk3352
@johnnyprotalk3352 18 минут назад
i get it its just a reference but true tech tools isnt always thge best price just a fyi for other techs
@user-sp5eh7km7j
@user-sp5eh7km7j Месяц назад
I prefer my C&D, looks the same as Accutools brand, prefer over Appion which is bulkier.
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
I broke mine 😅 didn't make it to the test but yeah it's identical
@ebfsystem
@ebfsystem Месяц назад
I have used every single core remover on the market and eventually they all leak at some point, specially Apion
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
True. I actually been wanting test mine cuz I know something is leaking somewhere
@Seedavis397
@Seedavis397 Месяц назад
I have yellow jackets and they have trouble sometimes too. Seems like this is a hard item to design because it looks like they all have drawbacks
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
If only we could mix them to make the perfect one 😅
@dporrasxtremeLS3
@dporrasxtremeLS3 Месяц назад
Appion, leaks after 3 times? Bought Yellow Jacket then.
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
I've heard that a few times now
@gordonborsboom7460
@gordonborsboom7460 Месяц назад
I purchased Appion after Yellow Jacket core tool ownership. The rubber seals leaking on the YJ drove me to look at alternatives and the o-ring seals on the Appion are better. The first Appion purchase was the pink 5/16th unit and it had the stem grabbing type end. The next 1/4” Appion had the body grab style. This is a terrible design as the tolerances on cores are all over the map. Sometimes it grabs, sometimes not. I ended up using the YJ core trapper on the Appion body, as it grades on the stem. This seems like a half ass solution as they did make the stem grab type remover. Frustrating! My original 5/16 Appion are giving me vacumn fits as it seems that the ball valve is leaking and cannot be serviced by the repair kit offered. I think I may have to scrap them after spending $78 CDN on the repair kit. F*#k!ng maddening.
@BabyKMoney
@BabyKMoney Месяц назад
Man I had a Navac once, first time trying to remove one under pressure the fuckin thing literally blew apart I lost the entire charge
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
That's what I've been hearing! That sucks man
@BabyKMoney
@BabyKMoney Месяц назад
@@ReliableHVACR thanks for the review tho, much needed I got the field piece without the sight glass was thinking about getting that one
@buzz6792
@buzz6792 Месяц назад
I love your videos, but your sponsorship is showing through.. the Appion are adjustable, the standars for cores are trash. Having a tool that allows you to adjust them in the field gives you a wide range of ability. Don’t get me wrong Fieldpeice really has come up with the work of art adding the sight-glass and isolation valves. I’ve also never had an issue with NAVAC, other than their length Which seems to be a common problem with most core tools with most mini splits. My recommendation is if you’re going to review tools take the time and do the research on how to use the tool correctly. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pb5BB8Up2Lg.htmlsi=yX0f7_y5GePIOnZ2
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
I wasn't paid for this so I do not care to promote any brand, I genuinely think FP will work better for my equipment. And no disrespect with my reply here but I mentioned that I know you can pinch them, idk if you saw it but I did a follow up video to show the instructions. Lot of comments and messages that nobody knew that, they expected them to work out of the box which was my test. It's 120 degrees out right now who wants to fumble with adjustments.
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
And I've had several people that bought navac and hated them 🤷🏽‍♂️ so I never bought em
@Shawn_RHVAC
@Shawn_RHVAC Месяц назад
The appion code tools sucks, I WAS VERY VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THE INABILITY TO GRAB THE CORE AND REMOVE
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
Need adjustments, I did a how to video
@hecherr1121
@hecherr1121 Месяц назад
After first min watching you use appion, I knew. Couldn't finished watching your "Review" , you couldn't even use it properly. Not all core are sized exactly the same. Wonder which core removal tool was paying for your "review" 😂
@ReliableHVACR
@ReliableHVACR Месяц назад
None of the others had an issue 😂 they must of all paid me! NOT! Nobody paid man, go check out the follow up video on Appion. So many others had the same issue and didn't know about adjusting it. I mentioned here I know you can pinch them. And this wasn't a review it was a comparison of them working as is 🤷🏽‍♂️
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