Comparing The E-Cells Five Star V1 vs V2 - Frame Wobble? 

What derailuer did you get?

@@shootthechit the same as you (based on your video) microSHIFT Acolyte :)

@@hottamalekid3502 Nice, it's a solid derailleur

@@Trailtested Yea, Im not jealous at all lol. Do you have a thru axle?

Can the 26" rims come in gold or only the 24" rims?

They do not include the front baskets any longer and now we have to pay a $300 Tariff, ugh.

oh nice, Rio Vista right across the river from me. I was thinking about doing a ride form here to there one day but not crazy about riding across the Antioch bridge. Where do you ride at on the Delta?

@@shootthechit, Yes. that Antioch Bridge has strong crosswinds. I would not even cross it with a light motorcycle. The motorcycle has to be at least 420 lbs. Back to eBikes, there are two routes I like. One is the rolling hills west of Hwy 12 and Trilogy, then south to downtown along the Sacramento River, then up North - 17 miles. The rolling hills portion is only a six mile stretch but with at about six hills to climb and at least moderate cross winds. I wear a full face helmet, so it's comfortable. My second favorite is taking the ferry to Ryer Island. It's is about a 20 mile around completely around the island. It is mainly flat but with strong three-quarter headwind from the west on the return trip. That said, several weeks ago when I crossed it, the Caltrans lady told me they'll be "open all day". However when I returned 2 hours later, the Ferry was shut down. Long story short, a nice lady gave a lift out of the island. That's the only time the ferry has broke on me in over two years, but my wife said she won't pick me up next time. It's difficult to get to with all the back roads :-) Both routes have very few cars. This is good as these country roads don't have a shoulder to ride on. That said, the cars are courteous and don't make it a big deal passing you. I did these on my RadMini modified with true 750 watt motor, Bolton 2020 with true 750 watt motor & 24" tires and Lectric XPremium 500 watt mid-drive. The RadMini & XPremium are foldable bikes with 20" tires. I have now sold my Bolton 2020 & XPremium. My Five Star arrives in about 4-6 week. If I can find your email address on your RU-vid, I will send you maps of my route. There is actually a 3rd route I forgot about. It start from Trilogy, cross over Hwy12 west to the rolling hills (with wind turbines..) instead of going south to downtown Rio Vista, I go north to Birds Landing. Lots of rolling hills, cross-winds and headwinds. That's about 30 miles in the hot sun :-) When I get the Five Star, I don't plan to ride at full blast. I eBike to get a good cardio workout for an hour or two. I'm an old guy - 73 years old. The Five Star will give me more range. Mine will have 24" high speed road tires and cadence sensor. I only need the 35+ mph for the busier River Road in Rio Vista along the Sacramento River.

Chit, check your email for July 11 at 9:05AM. I sent you maps of several routes in Rio Vista.

The front and rear rotors should be the same, especially given the power and weight of this bike; in my humble opinion.

@@TeddysVentures I fully agree

Dave made a post today saying 68 bikes were delivered without stars, so it sounds like you will probably have stars since it was only a batch that didn't have them

Nice! That car is actually my friends, I think his is a 2017. Its pretty insane you can buy a car with over 700hp and a warranty these days.

The 2020 GT500 in Race red looks like it deserves a speeding ticket sitting still ! Wish I could say I have one of those in my garage, but Ford's Dealer greed program put the ax on that one ! At least I've still got my 69 Mach 1, and a Blue Dual Star with gold wheels on the way.

My thought exactly . It’s the weight of the rider in relation to bonus weight sitting in the rear that assists the wobbling .

I usually run 20 psi in the 26x4 tires.

hahahaha yea! but in this case bigger isn't always better

They are fine, sometimes you gotta put your weight onto the front fork when you tighten the nuts down to ensure its all the way seated into the dropout. Ive had this issue before with the quick release and had to reseat it

Do you have the regular fork or upgraded version?

@@TeddysVentures upgraded

I ordered may 31st and took delivery 2nd week of June, I have the 4 piston brakes also. And blue, unfortunatly gold rims wasn't an option but I do have the 5 gold stars. I did get a front basket which is awesome and the rear luggage bag. 19" frame too, its a beast!

Hopefully you will get it soon!

There is no wobble as the rear linkage is very sturdy. On the "other" brand bike its very noticeable as someone posted a video of it on Facebook. My 2024 version of the other bike has it present, but It never made the handlebars wobble, that seems to be exclusive to the newer bikes with the battery in the rear rack.

I was thinking the same thing! And thanks to the tariff these bikes now cost an extra $400 for the base model. No longer the value they once were.

@rvboondocker2559 Oh yea I agree, I just thought they said they were going to 203 front and back but I could be wrong

The wobble is in the rear triangle, not the frame so holding the seat doesn't change anything

​@@shootthechit Incorrect. Your "wobble test" isn't proving anything. Stick a 15ah battery on the rack, then try it again with both hands on the bars, not the seat.

@@gnuibe Sure man, if anyone would know it would be you

@@shootthechit When you shook the newer Ecell model you were holding the rear rack, not the seat.

I'm honestly fine with the stock brakes, but if a company wanted to send me some I would try them lol. Do you not like the stock brakes?

Interesting.. I wonder if they ran out of stars?

@@shootthechit Probably saving them for the Chinese military as they prep for WW3

I like my Wired Freedom. I think they make good bikes, but that comment was kind of due to JFLY and some Wired fanboys coming on my page and leaving crappy comments, so it was a little clap back. I hope they address the frame wobble though, it looks pretty bad from the videos I've seen

Yea they did mention that, but I think it should be fine once someone posts a video on how to put the brand new freedom together w/weight on the rack and see if it even wobbles..I asked someone to do that who has a channel on RU-vid, he said he hasn’t had any problems w/wired or wobbles and he’d do a video when he got his new freedom bike..getting wobbles possibly because some people aren’t puttin it together correctly..yours doesn’t even wobble right?

@@benitodelrio9059 My 2023 wobbled a bit, but my 2024 freedom doesn't but the frame has flex. I don't have a new one to test

You’d never put heavy weight on the rack? I’m just goin to be careful, plannin to have 35-40lbs on the back rack

I don't think the step stars have hit the streets yet, sounds like they will be around later this month but don't quote me on that

@@think4tomorrownow Yea he had been stealing cats in his free time to make some extra money lol

Thanks, I really appreciate it

The bikes do not use the same frame from the same factory at all. The E-Cells frame is significantly heavier and sturdier than the Wired's frame. There is always going to be some flex, but its pretty minimal on the E-Cells.. You can find videos of people doing the same thing on the other bike and you will see a big difference. I hope they fix that in upcoming releases.

@@shootthechityeah. It will suck for consumers both companies produce some good looking bikes and Ecells has more customization. I’m curious in a speed test in both.

@@773Chicago I think the new Wired is faster by a few mph. I see some people reporting 41-43mph

@@shootthechit my real first e-bike was a freesky swift horse and it is a solid off-road bad looking bike. No flex in frame but it top out at 35 mph and I thought that was fast lol.

@@crushitcalistoga8652 lol are you mental?

​@@shootthechitAbsolutely wanna see

Crazy huh? It’s like he doesn’t even care about something he has nothing to do with.