Comparing the Synthstrom Deluge Vs Teenage Engineering OP-1: Which one is the best fit for YOU?

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Video comparing the ‪@teenageengineering‬ OP-1 to the ‪@SynthstromAudible‬ Deluge from an actual users point of view. Similarities, differences, and helping you figure out which one will probably be a better fit for you. Hope you enjoy it!
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@JoshIsMakingMusic 3 года назад

I'd had to choose between the two, and went with the Deluge. Haven't had any regrets. It's a deep, powerful, and evolving piece of gear. I don't think it's for everyone, since it's so expensive, but for what it does, there's nothing like it.

@charlieo9727 3 года назад

I have had both and I can tell you that you made the right choice.

@labraxorientalis 2 года назад

My man you convinced me to get a qy70 and the deluge is next

@TonyRedgrave1501 2 года назад

Op-1 is even more expensive so it wins even in that regard.

@ShaighJosephson Год назад

The Deluge firmware has severely outgrown the hardware interface with 3-button combo functions... I'm all done with that BS...especially at its price... Swapped mine out for an Akai Force which covers so much more...

@SighDown 3 года назад

Wow! Very, very comprehensive comparison balanced by a warm, knowledgeable delivery. Well done, my man, well done! (Note: The Deluge will be landing in my studio any day now.)

@charlieo9727 3 года назад

You will love it. If I was only allowed one synth/drum machine/sampler it would be Deluge.

@kwaping 3 года назад

So nice to have you back and producing videos!

@zambination11 3 года назад

Now thats a very good video! Your editing skills are getting better and better! Your thematology is always great! So, i find the idea of getting a deluge very tempting..

@muzza152 2 года назад

Great summary of both, thanks mate…great work…you have clearly thought about this and are great at delivering the message..

@kozhikkaalan 2 года назад

Lovely video. Great explanations. Nice personality and delivery. 😊

@thomk7678 3 года назад

Spot on, man. I sold my OP-1 and haven’t had any regrets (so far), but the Deluge will never leave my studio.

@nachtaktiv 3 года назад

same here! :D

@charlieo9727 3 года назад

Same here. OP-1 screen cracked after 2 months and TE's answer was "too bad sell it for parts". Synthstrom on the other hand has gotten back to me within hours of any problem I have had. They even had a software engineer troubleshoot a glitch with me at 2am.

@Vivacomunismo 2 года назад

@@charlieo9727 synthstrom being pro consumer and teenage engineering not giving a fuck ... nothing new

@TheBiggerNoise 3 года назад

Nice comparison, I really like that idea of sketching on the deluge and using your other hardware for the final recording.

@willp3754 3 года назад

This technique works for me. Sketch notes on an internal synth. Decide what to do with the part later - it really does convert to midi with one button.

@GazRendar 2 года назад

Thanks for the thoughtful breakdown about the experience and feel more than the typical stats and specs.

@MidlifeSynthesist 2 года назад

Thank you for watching! I truly appreciate the feedback🙌🏻

@jeffryarchambeau5441 Год назад

I wish I could give you another thumbs up every time I listen to this video. This was my fourth listen, after getting a used OP-1. It's attracting me more than any other piece I've bought.

@trix7592 3 года назад

Fantastic video and vibe! Thanks 🙏🏼

@MidlifeSynthesist 3 года назад

Thank you so much! Cheers!

@256k_ 3 года назад

awesome video! i love seeing how much you improve with each video! I've just picked up the OP-1 a couple of weeks ago now and your description of the person who the OP-1 is for is SPOT ON description of where i am right now. I've spent the last years buying and selling gear, making music, developing a studio and getting very distracted of the true end goal of making music really is: "Having fun and being creative" at the end of 2020 i realized that this was bringing me a lot of anxiety and stress and unnecessary pressure to perform and in the end what was supposed to be a fun creative hobby ended up being a toxic stress filled guilt trip. SO i decided to start selling all the gear that didn't bring me pure joy regardless of the technical specs and started replacing them with "toys" that would be much more fun to use (nanoloop FM, op-Z, op-1, M8 tracker (preordered), model cycles) i've don't the whole "big production workflow" thing, had big synths and professional gear and realized that it wasn't for me. and while sure the end result on OP-1 like you said isn't going to be the best one out there the process itself is the most fun and most rewarding. maybe one day in the future i might pick up as well the deluge because it does seem interesting but that screen/grid interface is not for me. maybe if they make a deluge 2.0 with a big screen like you said i would consider it. really enjoyed your video! keep it up you're doing great stuff

@2.Plus.2.Equals.5 Месяц назад

Whatever helps you justify wasting that much on a toy. 😄

@dimadrebezov6491 3 года назад

Thank you a lot! Such a pleasure to hear smart stuff from an intelligent man!

@jnspincliffe2 2 года назад

Amazing video, thanks so much!

@pr4web 2 года назад

Amazing video!! Thank You so much!

@laydownmisere3674 3 года назад

Very well said and spot on summary. I have had both since they were first released but find that while my Deluge gets used more and more the OP1 is gathering dust (same as my RC202) and I've decided to sell it for the reasons you give in your summary - combined with other hardware synths the Deluge is an amazing composition tool. The OP1 is great, but I find it harder to use than the Deluge, even with the Deluge's "display".

@martingoldmannmusic 3 года назад

I did a lot of travelling in 2019 - and I hope I will do more after Covid. I love to play around with the OP-1 while sitting in a train or in a hotel room. It really is what you describe: Just having fun, making some music. Hope to get my hands on a deluge...

@craigtillman5988 2 года назад

This has to be best synth review/comparison I've ever watched. Thanks, extremely helpful!! Do you do Live Streams for Q&A?

@passivehouseaustralia4406 3 года назад

Wonderful review and I think spot on about which instrument fits you in terms of personality and aims in music production. I would add as a Deluge user that its not a static instrument as OP-1 is. The Firmware updates that keep rolling out from Sythstrom dont just fix bugs (which there are very few) thay add major functionality and reflect the very open architecture of the instrument its self. I hate to say it but I think if you look at pure value and can get over the screen, Deluge is maybe the best piece of electronic music gear for the price in the known universe at the moment, It really can do that much.

@cardboardmusic 3 года назад

I'm sure you know this already, but one thing to add to the Deluge's list is the community. There's a really active Deluge (Synthstrom) community who post videos, help people out on problems and make suggestions, tips and more - ex: there's a fun live channel here on YT, where you can get inspired. And, I should add that the Synthstrom team are always very helpful if you have any questions or problems.

@charlieo9727 3 года назад

Deluge beta tester here and I whole heartedly agree with ^ Not to mention the team at Synthstrom REALLY cares about its clients whereas Teenage Engineering is more focused on making cheaply made products for big price tags.

@MrJackal43 3 года назад

@@charlieo9727 yeah, you know nothing about the Op-1 at all apparently. The entire chassis is a single piece of machined aluminum and all the potentiometers are actual aircraft industry rated controls... I own both and they are both great. You really shouldn’t be speaking on things you know nothing about.

@Rondoggy67 3 года назад

@@charlieo9727 Troll.

@joegrant413 2 года назад

Your question at 12 minutes is super! Please bring this question up at the end of your deluge versus MPC comparison as well.

@bryanbytes Год назад

Great breakdown at end as far as users. Reaffirms my suspicions.

@MilesKvndra 3 года назад

Great work on this comparison, mate! Love the OP-1 as a compact idea sketch machine and will never sell it. The Deluge looks great too, but I think I'd miss a proper screen.

@GuitarsAndSynths 2 года назад

same here and fun to jam on couch or at beach and parks.

@BassBajo 3 года назад

Great video dude.

@PithyBikes 2 года назад

My op-1 USB capability stopped working because of a TE firmware update. It’s been at a TE certified repair partner for over 2 months now. While waiting for the repair, I purchased a Deluge. There is no contest, the Deluge is superior in every way.

@dozenglazed Год назад

both are awesome!! got the op1 a while back and the deluge this year.

@LombaxPieboy16 2 года назад

Wow, this is the exact comparison video I needed, and it showed up in my recommended. Thanks youtube algorithm.

@flipmacyt 2 года назад

Very very good review !!!!

@roccoharris 3 года назад

well-played, sir. bravo!!

@tommyoz777 3 года назад

I picked up the Deluge just before they went up in price. I need to spend more time with it. Maybe your video will get me going. Thanks!!!

@charlieo9727 3 года назад

Check out the Deluge Official Facebook page. A bunch of useful stuff there to help you get started and really helpful friendly Delugists.

@DalelCampbell 3 года назад

What was the original price?

@denyel_ 3 года назад

doesnt matter which one i’m gonna think i regret not getting the other. i want BOTH!

@digitallyzer0 3 года назад

i feel this 100%

@stefanherzog 2 года назад

This video was the last drop that led me to buy a Deluge. So happy about it!

@IonStream 3 года назад

I've just got to say this channel is absolutely amazing and you deserve a lot more subs! I really would like the Deluge for the same reason you have ( a sketchpad to then perform on your synths in the studio), but that darn screen is what's holding me back. Really hope they do a MK2 version with a better screen maybe. Because apart from that, it would be a gamechanger for me!

@pixelplayground 3 года назад

I don’t think I could part with either, love them both so much. Would LOVE a hardware upgraded Deluge with a decent screen though. That would be next level.

@audiblevideo 3 года назад

Thank you for confirming I made the right choice in getting a Deluge

@mwmingram 3 года назад

Very useful. Thank you.

@MidlifeSynthesist 3 года назад

Thank you so much for watching! Cheers!

@mijaba 3 года назад

I love my deluge and I think it is incredible as a standalone unit. though I have other synths, i don't find myself reaching for them, as I can get pretty much any sound I want out of the deluge. I have yet to challenge the instrument's polyphony limit in such a way that a tweak in the setting of one track or another cannot remedy. Don't get me wrong-- I would LOVE an OP-1-- but I'm afraid it would suffer the same neglect as my other synths do, now that I have a deluge. That's my take on it.

@MarcdeSaint 3 года назад

Greattt, my op1 is on the way, but now I want both

@MidlifeSynthesist 3 года назад

The answer is always both🤣

@romankandinsky7104 3 года назад

Man, you are so sweet. Thank you for this video

@MidlifeSynthesist 3 года назад

Thank you so much for that! Made my day! Hope to see you soon!

@tubeMonger 3 года назад

Nice comparison. What I'd like to add to Deluge's list of features is multi-samples that make my analog synths portable. After I have some of my synths sounds as samples and playable in Deluge, I can hear what they sound like and when I'm back at home, I can hook the synths via midi to Deluge and use the sounds from the synths.

@tubeMonger 3 года назад

Oh, and it's nice to have you back.

@KevinStCroix 3 года назад

OMG, I spent last year having a midlife analog synthesizer crisis and went on a collection spree. Not there yet, but they will retain their value a lot better than soft synths or their digital equivalents.

@Frakaphoto 3 года назад

had the same, bought yam yc61, deluge, matriarch, vermona perfourmer , reel to reel and few pedals

@IhorMedia 3 года назад

I am about to "you sold me the Deluge", but I just spent too muh money on new modules! Very nice video! Thank you!

@frakaelectrosonparis7819 2 года назад

got both and use them like you. deluge to control all my synth ( matriarch and phrophet), op1 for the bag and the fun.

@michaelhonormusic 3 года назад

Recently got a Roland mc-101, a great little instrument 😊👍

@ILLUDIUM_Q_36 3 года назад

The Deluge will never disappoint. The resampling on it is superb

@architectofthemachine 3 года назад

Great work, I dont usually comment but thank you

@static-san 3 года назад

Watching multiple videos of people making music on either device got me interested in both. The OP-1 first, but the price put me off, plus I wasn't sure I grokked the workflow. Seeing the Deluge, though, showed me the main difference: being audio-based the OP-1 is oriented to making and printing a track then you move on to the next track. The Deluge lets you come back to a track and fiddle with the sound long after you've laid it down. The latter is much more how I work. (Plus the Deluge was a lot cheaper.)

@rockhardfreak 2 года назад

Ive Sold my op1 and bought the deluge as it got released and never regretted it a Minute

@drdoolittle8396 2 года назад

just got my polyend tracker. not disappointed.

@jonaseggen2230 3 года назад

Great video. I like your thinking and how you express your thoughts. I'm not going to buy a groovebox atm as I'm focused on making a complete synth system in eurorack. What I mean by complete is a music making and and performing setup in two cases. I'm almost there but need a few more utilities and the second case. I also got two synths and an electric piano that has been collecting dust since I started with modules so no point really for me to think to much about this now. Saying that. At some point I will probably get a groovebox. As I have no experience with making music on a computer out of these two the Deluge looks more tempting. This because I know I would learn, and would have to learn a lot in order to use it. The OP-1 looks like loads of fun but a bit toy like maybe for the price. The Digitone is also something I might consider but I somehow got the impression that the Deluge is a bit more hands on, that you don't end up missing this or that function and that it is less menudivy. Here are two other different and not that well known grooveboxes that caught my eyes: It's fun to watch the difference between the web pages for these two companies. They might have different type of customers in mind : D Gotharman's Little Deformer www.gotharman.dk/LD3.htm RU-vid: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-unEh3QJSpZo.html&ab_channel=THETUESDAYNIGHTMACHINES Pollyend Tracker polyend.com/tracker/ polyend.com/tracker/ RU-vid: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MQufJBVvAtY.html&ab_channel=loopop

@zachshult Год назад

Get both they’re both awesome

@LuisTorres-qz5kr 2 года назад

Thanks for your review. After watching MANY reviews and seeking various inputs, I am about to pull the plug on the Deluge. Something I have struggled with has been seeing the Roland TR-8S and MC-707 video/reviews. The drums are amazing. Is there a set of samples (or factory) one can import to the Deluge to recreate these?

@OhHeyK3vin 3 года назад

Not sure if it's possible, but I'd love an iOS/Android companion app for the Deluge like what Teenage Engineering did with the OP-Z. I'd settle for that over a 2.0 with an OLED screen.

@jaysilence3314 3 года назад

The DAL connector might be interesting to you: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZGC71gpfkwQ.html Not really an app and it requires the WIFI SD-Card, but still...

@xisotopex 2 года назад

I have heard there is an app but I have not been able to find anything out about it

@loktar00 Год назад

And now you can get the deluge with an OLED screen :)

@malechi1973 3 года назад

Can you do a Deluge Vs MPC Live 2 next? These are the 2 pieces of equipment I’m really struggling with choosing between - & I could really do with some help!

@StephaneBerla 3 года назад

The main difference is the kind of music you want to do. If you are more a tracker / groove box guy and like electronica music with quick fat sounds, Deluge is the best. If you are a musician performer, you like to experiment with weird organic sounds or you compose lofi ambient things, the op1 is crazy. You have a keyboard, a microphone, a radio, weird synths or effects, a very original workflow with the tape recorder (once you get it, it is damn fast to create), you have also an accelerometer, very original lfos..... in my opinion, it is not designed to produce a final track, I mix my layers on Ableton Live, it sounds really great.

@DocBolus 3 года назад

Just what I needed. I was coming to the conclusion that a Deluge has got to be my next bit of kit and this kind of confirms it for me.

@charlieo9727 3 года назад

Its a beast man. Best piece of electronic gear I own.

@alexwestconsulting 3 года назад

Deluge sounds like crap. There's no way around that, unfortunately. Yes, it's absolutely true that they don't have the resources to pay for a great swath of great presets, but there's just something "digital" about the raw sound no matter what you do. Having said that, I still love my deluge, I just don't use the internal synth engine much. Awesome dawless hub and isolated sketch pad.

@ZZKJ396 3 года назад

My dream... the Deluge with a decent screen...

@anthonytamez170 3 года назад

So a daw w a midi controller lol

@ZZKJ396 3 года назад

@@anthonytamez170 So every synth that has a screen on it is DAW with a midi controller to you?!? lol

@timdanyo898 3 года назад

whoa.. the Deluge looks incredible.. really useful.

@charlieo9727 3 года назад

It IS. I love mine. It's a life changer.

@jamesstonehouse3448 3 года назад

It's made a huge difference to my creative flow

@timdanyo898 3 года назад

@@jamesstonehouse3448 do you interface it with a DAW? Which one?

@Vivacomunismo 2 года назад

@@timdanyo898 people tend to use devices like these to escape daws in the first place they work alone traditionally

@theshinyobject2438 3 месяца назад

I absolutely love mine.

@KattKirsch 2 года назад

Really appreciate this video! Have you messed with the Polyend Tracker yet? Super curious to know your opinion.

@MidlifeSynthesist 2 года назад

Thank you for watching! The Polyend is high on my GAS meter! Unfortunately I haven’t been able to get my hands on one🥲.

@djcuda 3 года назад

I’m here! For the game gear 🥷🏽

@floncyb5436 3 года назад

Awesome video my friend!!!

@Rmspender 3 года назад

I have both and if it wasn’t for the sentimental value I probably would let the OP-1 go. I never thought the day would come that I would say this... both are really special.

@JoeM1314 3 года назад

I got a JV-1080 and it became a game changer with the deluge controlling it through midi. Offload a lot of the heavy lifting for synth sounds to a multi timbral synth rack and the deluge becomes a god machine puppet master.

@aquaticborealis4877 3 года назад

Hm, I have a Novation Summit. I wonder how they might pair up.

@TheForeboding 3 года назад

I think this is the first video in which you have that "wall of synths", which previously were located around the room, right? Which one is that, if I may ask? I've been looking for one to accommodate everything and this fits the bill (for the moment) :D

@martinmatthews1589 3 года назад

'Which one,,?' There's a novel concept.. Despite your obvious aversion to acquiring gear I agree you should try the Tracker. Great viewing again.

@MarcoPolux 2 года назад

I like that you really get your video to conclusions 👍. almost everyone just "report:" and do not conclude....

@MidlifeSynthesist 2 года назад

Lol, thanks! Happy you enjoyed it my friend! Have a great week!

@charlieo9727 3 года назад

I would choose the Deluge any day. My OP-1 screen broke after a few months and was given a "too bad" by TE, but with all the major improvements Synthstrom has made to Deluge even in just the last year the comparison to me is a no brainer. I also didn't like how limiting the OP was when it comes to tracks/programs. The OP was like a less useful Organelle to me. Neither of them will ever come close to replacing my Deluge though.

@Vivacomunismo 2 года назад

@@Reykreyth he sold it I think

@accidentallyfasting5768 3 года назад

Deluge ftw. Had one since they first shipped and have loved working on it the whole time. Would never get a different piece of gear to be the brain of my studio. Two things, though. The usb port of the deluge supports multiple devices via a hub, so you're not limited to 1 controller. Another, no one shows the wave form editor. I wish you would have because it makes the recording and looping features of the deluge incredibly powerful.

@bux77 3 года назад

Great video, the Deluge is probably next on my list for things to get. For portability the OP-Z is unbeatable and the sequencer is really powerful too. You might like the MC-707 if you’ve never tried it, really intuitive sequencing, great control of external gear and the built in synth engine sounds great. Loving the content as a mid life synthesist myself I feel you.

@robbybobbyhobbies 2 года назад

Have both, love both, but use the iPad waaaaaay more than either. Strongly considering selling all the hardware in my collection other than MIDI controllers and the iPads. AUM (Cubasis occasionally) and a bulging bag of apps brings me the joy that I seek.

@MidlifeSynthesist 2 года назад

I find thar extremely interesting! Can you tell me what apps you’re using and controllers? ✌🏻

@robbybobbyhobbies 2 года назад

@@MidlifeSynthesist Many, many, many, ha! Arturia Keystep pro and a FaderFox EC4 do the heavy lifting. In app terms: AUM, Cubasis or Drambo glues everything; stuff like Fugue Machine, Zoa, Atom 2, Piano motif, ChordJam provide inspirational input for further mangling. A MIDIhub messes with notes algorithmically, or maybe I'll throw things through the ...Bud apps, Rozetta, Mozaic or other MIDI pipeline tools. Animoog Z, Synthmaster (1 and 2), Pure Piano, Mersenne, Lagrange, KQ Dixie and other synths produce some noise. Too many FX apps to mention. Focusrite audio interfaces. Recently I've been using Bitwig on the Mac as well and loving the modulate-everything world it offers. This is very much the edited highlight list of the apps that crowd my iPad. Even with all this software GAS I'm well south of the price of either the Deluge or OP-1 (given that I have an iPad or two for many other purposes - iOS app dev, general office machine, content consumption, etc). And the controllers provide the haptic side that people often bemoan. So for me it's reached the point where I can access my version of music joy on something I have in the house anyway. And the variety of the app world means it's an ever-changing world of joy. And it doesn't take up as much space :). For a low-talent middle-aged ambient noodling knob-twirler like me, I think iPad+some physical devices is a viable platform that combines the fun of the OP-1 (with the correct choice of apps) with the portable DAWness of the Deluge (albeit with some accessibility issues since I don't know of a 16x8 button controller for the iPad). And none of this is an argument against the OP-1 and Deluge - like I say, I love them both and enjoy using them. But I reach for the iPad more often, it's with me all the time, and its evolving apps are keeping it interesting. Long may the diverse options continue: physical instruments, software, DAWs, mixers, synths, trackers, Deluges, OP-1s and all the rest. We're living in a golden age.

@MidlifeSynthesist 2 года назад

@@robbybobbyhobbies thank you so much for sharing! Truly a golden age for music lovers everywhere!🙌🏻

@81-jdowlwp 3 года назад

I have both (soon) and would be interested if there is a good way to combine them together :)

@LovinglyGDM Год назад

You got your wish!! Synthstrom just announced a new screen for the deluge 👌

@LovinglyGDM Год назад

Maybe time for an OP1 Field vs Updated Deluge comparison video?

@magnuseriksson8081 2 года назад

What are your thoughts about the deluge today? I am very keen on the Maschina

@DannyPodcast 2 года назад

Really enjoyed this video. Been looking at the OP-1 but seems like people say, its more like a beautiful toy, the sounds are outdated, its great, but not really good. I was thinking to pick one up second hand for around 700 euro. Idk if Thats the way to go, my other option is getting a daw Like FL studio for my ipad pro, a Akai keyboard and some vst synths. And the price tag will en up similarly. What do you think? Im a total noob who just want to play around with ambient and psy.

@FuZZbaLLbee 3 года назад

I have the OP-Z for portability and an MPC live as my Daw in a 📦 I am most productive with a Push2 and Ableton tough. But hardware is more fun 😀

@twoHRdrive Год назад

So, you use the Deluge to come up with an idea, and then to sequence your hardware synths using the Deluge as the main clock and sequencer? That sounds amazing

@MidlifeSynthesist Год назад

It is!🙌🏻 thanks for watching!

@LunaticDandy 3 года назад

@The Midlife Synthesist I'm really interested in your opinion about the *OP-Z vs Deluge* on which is most suitable for making tracks outside (or on a train, plane, car, etc.). Not a simple device for a 30 minutes session but to create something from A to Z (except MIX / Mastering) for weeks outside my studio ... I just bought the OP-Z because i'm looking for this good "travel music machine". I'm testing it since two days now and i'm kind of addicted to this little thing (the very portable size of the OP-Z is a big plus !)... I have about a month to master it and made my mind. But, i'm looking for the Deluge too ! I think it will fit better with what i do but i can't "test it" and send it back.

@LunaticDandy 3 года назад

Aaaaaand i bought the Deluge.

@FusRoMoose 2 года назад

@@LunaticDandy How are you liking it? Can you give us some op-z Vs deluge insights?

@scenario1236 3 года назад

Yes Deluge 2.0 sounds good... When I pulled the plug on the OP-1 I was auditioning the Deluge and it was the screen that turned me off of deluge and on to the OP.

@steezymac4782 Год назад

that game gear joke really landed for me

@xisotopex 2 года назад

have you used the deluge to sequence multiple synths/drum machines?

@tobiasbecker6693 3 года назад

Would you recommend to get either of these as a beginner who wants to get started making music with just one piece of hardware? I know I could just get started using my Mac, but I kinda want to get away from the screen more

@aquaticborealis4877 3 года назад

Flexibility and power of a computer DAW is leagues above. But hands on usability of something like the Deluge is extremely nice. I really like the idea of having a matrix in front of you that you can touch. I should mention it also really depends on the kind of music. Can’t do that much with these machines if you play guitar. A computer and an audio interface allows you to do almost anything.

@LordoftheBadgers Год назад

Did you ever compare octatrack with deluge. Both cover similar territory with pros and cons

@ignaciogobet605 2 года назад

hahaha I like that humor in the beginning

@ToyKeeper 3 года назад

As an OP-1 owner, I'd recommend using a Deluge or MPC instead. :P The OP-1 workflow just doesn't jive with me, for a bunch of different reasons. It's fun, but it's incredibly quirky and has a really low ceiling.

@stephenmurphywilson7294 2 года назад

Thanks. I keep, thinking I want one but the voice in my ear tells me that inside of a month I'll regret it.

@ToyKeeper 2 года назад

@@stephenmurphywilson7294 For around the same price as an OP-1, you could get an Akai Force instead. It's waaay more powerful, and is good at making complete songs instead of just quick sketches. It has the features and workflow I actually need, instead of just some stuff I once thought I wanted. It's basically what the Ableton Push 3 would be if it existed. It's nice working with clips, scenes, and an arranger without having to use a computer. I've spent years looking for the right hardware, and with a Force I feel like I finally found it. YMMV, but I'd feel negligent if I didn't at least mention it.

@modern_88 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! If you could only pick 1...octatrack or deluge?

@charlieo9727 3 года назад

Deluge any day, but there are pretty different. Deluge being a groovebox and Octa being an 8 track sampler.

@duncan-rmi Год назад

I don't have an OP-1, & my deluge was idle for a long time while I mucked about with MPC-1, tracker, blackbox & so on. but now the deluge has a new screen, & while this shows the same information as before, it's showing it in grown-up writing instead of red crayon marks that won't stay still. time for a revisit to this shootout?

@BrennanMcKinnon 3 года назад

My only electronic gear I have so far is the microkorg. Would it be a logical next step to reach for the Deluge? Or a simpler drum machine/sequencer first?

@80iesDude45 2 года назад

I sold my Deluge and got a Roland MC-101, a Circuit OG (used) and a Circuit TRACKS for the same price. Both, Novation Circuits and Roland MC-101 are perfect alternatives.

@MasDouc 2 года назад

The OP1 is cool for a $300 little synth except it's not $300 it's $1,300.

@hvhvgitaar 2 года назад

This comparison confirms my thinking after many months: More than anything else, I want to make songs. Although I do enjoy sound design and getting lost in grooves and beats, it's all about putting together a whole piece of work that tells a story and pulls the listener with it. The courier will be delivering my Deluge in a day or two... Thanks for another great video!

@clemlysergy3335 2 года назад

How do you find the synths and effects on the deluge compared to the modern MPC range? I have a deluge and love many aspects of it, but find it frustrating that you are largely locked into the box with only one pair of audio outs, I find the synths very basic compared to a lot of the competition and that would be ok if there was a substantial set of effects to beef them up but there isn't. (I know you can apply external effects and resample back in etc. but not the most immediate way to work)

@MasDouc 2 года назад

MPC Live 2 is the best thing on the market by a landslide but the Deluge is great for sketching out ideas and just getting lost in the fun of making music. Plus it's beautiful.

@psychotrout 2 года назад

There you go I knew it... now I must go look at those prices...

@atalhlla 10 месяцев назад

The Deluge has an OLED screen now days. You can even pay them to retrofit your old 7-segment Deluge with the new screen! EDIT: Ow, I _felt_ that Gamegear remark.

@Koopakid917543 3 года назад

Dang, I wish I knew about the deluge before I bought an OP-1.

@Darqion 3 года назад

@@justinbernal1 Im shopping around for a deluge or.. similar. What about it was disappointing, if you dont mind me asking ?

@Darqion 3 года назад

@@justinbernal1 Thanks for replying. i hadnt really looked into the op-1 yet, but i will certainly have a look.. It does sound like a wonderful device

@cado13 3 года назад

OH Boi, I was waiting for this ! Got the OP-1, love it. The deluge seems like a lot of fun, but I think I prefer working with audio clips.

@DhruvMonga 3 года назад

Deluge does clip based audio, audio looping, linear audio recording, and sample chopping and mangling!

@cado13 3 года назад

@@DhruvMonga interesting, I haven’t search a lot about the deluge but it si important for me to be able to record in an old fashion way, I play guitar a lot and sometimes sings:)

@DhruvMonga 3 года назад

@@cado13 Yeah same :) I usually record my guitar into my deluge directly and add drums. But if the op-1 works for you, that's great! You should stick with whatever helps you make good music and be inspired :)

@cado13 3 года назад

@@DhruvMonga Agree :) I looked the arranger mode in the Deluge and it is great !

@charlieo9727 3 года назад

If you play guitar you NEED a Deluge. The Deluge looping abilities + guitar = amazing. Unlimited tracks and your recording/looping time is only limited by your memory card.

@Frakaphoto 3 года назад

Excellent video and analysis . I am controlling my synth like you ( vermona perfourmer , moog matriarch, yamaha YC61) with the deluge through midi . Don’t forget you are comparing the mother and the daughter . Oh... this deluge screen !!!!grrrrrrr. and for the new guys, it take few manual reading and months to understand the deluge . muscle memory. by the way never sell op1. The OP-1 field push the quality up to the moon. unbeilivable improvement in the same form factor and way..

@jopieachternaam2922 3 года назад

is there an alternative (budget-wise) for the Synthstrom Deluge? Would appiriate some reaction of you music lovers. TY kindly in advance

@apocryphal_man 2 года назад

Why does everyone and their dog start their videos with this "drinking/making a cup of coffee" opener? Apart from that, thank you for the video, quite helpful!

@davidjduerr 2 года назад

I definitely prefer that to the “LIKE, COMMENT, SUBSCRIBE OR DIE!” Opener

@jeffryarchambeau5441 2 года назад

Because opening a beer isn't as "family friendly" but I bet they need one after the work of making one of these videos!

@jaxager 2 года назад

I've often wondered that, myself.

@Imetalman2000 3 года назад

I love my op-1, but since I dropped it and now the white encoder doesn’t work anymore. So the unit loses allot of features with that encoder disabled.

@Wladyslas 3 года назад

Oh my, already got the Deluge and GAS got me an OP-Z, so I guess I have the best of both worlds

@LunaticDandy 3 года назад

Haha ! I just bought the OP-Z because i'm looking for a good "travel music machine". I'm testing it for two days and i'm kind of addicted to this little thing (the very portable size of the OP-Z is a big plus !)... I have 30 days to master it and made my mind. But, i was looking for the Deluge too ! I thing the Deluge will fit better with what i do but i can't send it back. So i'm really interested in your opinion.

@Wladyslas 3 года назад

Nice! To sum it up, I would say that the OP-Z is quite limited (like the OP1) in terms of synth engines and it def shines brighter as a "happy accidents" machine, whereas the Deluge is just an awesome all-in-one box that allows me to design synths, drums on the fly and edit tracks with the arranger mode. I cannot dismiss the fact that the OP-Z has a strong sequencer, with iterations and probability, and some awesome ideas that, afaik, are more "performance" oriented, such as the lights (through a dmx interface) and video/photo sequencer (if you're into that, I strongly suggest you take a look at Cuckoo's videos on the creation of visuals for the OP-Z: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UJRAbIQamnQ.html). There's also the issue of limited polyphony, and the fact that you have to spend another 130€ to get a CV/MIDI module to get it to communicate better with other synths and the POs is a bit of a bummer. Here are a few tracks I made with the OPZ, if you're interested: soundcloud.com/paul-kapelusz/tracks TL;DR The OP-Z is fun to play with but don't expect it to be as "standalone" as the Deluge. Hope this helps!

@LunaticDandy 3 года назад

@@Wladyslas Thanks for your reply ! I came to the same conclusion after hours with the OP-Z. In terms of workflow, I think having both is the best. The OP-Z for its "fast creativity", its live capability, its size and the Deluge to go further. Depending on the situation, we take one or the other or both! So, I ordered the Deluge ^^ ... Because I'm sure these two machines goes well together ! Correct me if i'm wrong. PS: I love your songs. Desde and ManonIsOk are my favorites ;)

@Wladyslas 3 года назад

@@LunaticDandy Np :) Have fun with those two then :D and thanks for the feedback

@harpingon 2 года назад

Deluge has been out a while now, am thinking of getting one as I've moved away from MS Windows/Cubase on to Linux/Bitwig and I'm suffering a bit from workflow and plugin loss. It might help if I wrench myself back into hardware synth / seq as opposed to a software daw and mini keyboard. As of Summer 2021, deluge still appears to be non-existent in the 2nd hand market here in the UK. Can I assume that it's still considered top drawer in Summer 2021? Anything else like it on the horizon, or an upgrade due? If anyone wants an upgraded Deluge, just wait until I've bought one, because something new is BOUND to come out soon after that. I did make a first try with the Zoom ARQ AR-48 flying saucer sequencer that I got incredibly cheaply in a sale, but I found it incredibly confusing to use. I also have an old Yamaha QY-10.

@badbenjy 2 года назад

Synthstrom have a very different design ethos. They are constantly upgrading the software to give more functions. No hardware upgrades planned anytime soon. But lots of new functions coming. Its literally the best thing ive ever bought.

@harpingon 2 года назад

@@badbenjy I got one :) They're really good, aren't they!