Comparing The Thousand Year Door's Soundtrack 

What do you all think? Which soundtrack is better overall, and are there any themes (like the Puni theme) that you think are much improved in the remake? Let me know!

Overall, I think the music is a fantastic improvement. There's some stinkers, like Rawk Hawk and Grodus' battle themes, but on average I much prefer what they did here. Plus, Bonetail's new theme is definitely going in my workout playlist, I don't think any mario song pumped me up so much as that one did.

I definitely haven't listened to everything, but I'll be the first to address one of the most polarizing remixes so far: Glitzville. I'm perfectly alright with the East Asian style change, that definitely fits what the area is. But I don't like how much they quieted down the original melody. Still, a good remix overall, makes Glitzville feel grand. On another note, I honestly dislike a lot of the OG music because of the soundfonts, so I'm really pleased with the orchestral approach.

Everyone keeps saying how they think the new soundtrack is too "busy", and here I was thinking the OG sounded too "empty". Hot take I know, but I'm definitely more of a fan of the remake's soundtrack overall despite growing up with the OG. There's some I definitely can't defend though, Grubba and Grodus are definite downgrades to me. And Frankly's theme got *BUTCHERED!!* EDIT: Just got to the Chapter 6 soundtrack and NOPE NOPE *NOPE* they ruined almost every song in that chapter with a couple exceptions.

I will admit that I really like how EXPERIMENTAL the music team was for this game. There’s so many tracks with such hugely different interpretations, and nostalgia tunes badge means you can swap between your favorites! One can say that it would’ve been nicer for some tracks to be more faithful, but it would’ve robbed us of Japanese Glitzville and new Rogueport. Even the less changed ones like Magnus, Cortez, and Grubba are super groovy. That being said, the highlight of my playthrough and the OST, HAS TO GO to the new OST. The new battle tracks, Magnus 2.0, some of the new intermediary songs sometimes stole the show for me. I found myself just humming Keyhaul Key and Glitzville’s battle themes on my day-to-day.

I’m so glad you’re appreciating the new music so much! This game is seamless with its transitions and the new rock music is sooo amazing for me since I never expected it to go so hard! The battles just feel so amazing and the atmosphere is perfect in this game. I literally feel like I’m in a dream while playing it’s everything I wanted and I was not actually expecting a full blown remake, I also love how the cutscenes are sometimes it feels like a movie. This is actually my favorite game of all time and I have a lot of favorites but this game just makes me feel so amazing while playing. No other game has made me feel this way lol

all the smorgs battle theme needs is the train track percussion to make it absolutely perfect to me as you described it, sounding "messy" fits the smorgs really well especially with the added gross sound effects

Am I the only one who finds most of the original OST inferior? Because it is really starting to feel like it lol

The new music is really good, but most of the time the mixing makes the melody so damn quiet and I don't understand why they went with that choice. Too often all I could hear was the rhythm section

As someone who didn't like the original soundtrack and love origami king's, ...yeah

I feel like you're judging the new one based on how similar it sounds to the original, rather than on its own terms. As someone who is hearing both of these soundtracks for the first time, I overwhelmingly prefer most of the new ones to the old ones.

The early 50 floors of the pit in the remade sountrack sounds so good

I definitely feel that the original game's soundtrack stood out more! While the remake's is certainly impressive (the Chapter 7 magnus von grapple theme especially entrances me), I feel that a lot of the songs just sort of blend together, now that it's all hardcore rock for the most part.

I really want to like the new soundtrack, but the songs are either messy or the melody is quiet or a certain instrument is missing. Also, like half the music now has guitar rifts? They sound pretty forced ngl.

I'm really enjoying the new music especially the variations in the battle themes. I'd say I prefer 25% of the original soundtrack over the new ones.

The worst remake has to be glitzville you can barely hear the melody

I'll be honest, there are a few tracks in the original that definitely stand out over the remake, but when I say few I mean it. Barring a few exceptions, I'm kinda floored at how effortlessly the new arrangements combine the heart of the original tracks with the instrumentation of the modern games. And not only do they do that, they increase the length of almost EVERY SINGLE track's loop, almost double the soundtrack with how many new tracks they've made, like giving every single boss their own unique track arrangement, every partner their own theme, unique battle tracks for every chapter AND a thinking version to go alongside every battle theme...like, I can go on and on. The remake's soundtrack to me is a big reason why it'll be very hard to imagine myself ever going back to the original game, which I've adored for over a decade. Just an incredible job well done by the team, you can feel their love and passion for TTYD in every beat.

I've been finding myself constantly switching, but I ultimately like a lot of the remade tracks. Thanks for your thoughts, hope you enjoyed the watermelon 😎

The worst part of ch 6's battle theme is how few times you get to listen to it in game. Also I personally like the new Rawk Hawk theme, but do not like the new Grubba or Grodus theme at all.

What is with this dude's hatred of vocals? I adored all the vocal additions, they add a hauntingness to some tracks and a dazzling beauty to others.

The only thing with the remake's OST that I'm iffy on is that is sounds as if the entire OST is compressed, meaning it narrows the differences between the louder and softer instruments of the track. Why this is the case? I'm not really sure... but I'm hoping that it will eventually be uncompressed so we can hear how the track is truly meant to be played, like maybe if it were to be run on the new system. I feel as though a TON of tracks would definitely leave a bigger impact if it wasn't for this.

nice video, I enjoy overall the new music mostly for all the battles variations, the other added variations, also the added music, all the samller ones are mostly better, but I think most chapter main pieces were better in the OG for clearer melody and the mood that fit the place

I love remade Boggly Woods far more than the original. What a difference! But Glitzville is mostly a bust for me. I have not found a battle theme I haven't liked yet. I just got to Chapter 6.

A lot of the newer tracks have extra choruses added to it, and some of them you cut off right before the new addition was listened to 😢

Feel like with the remake they should have added some spanish flair to Crotez's theme instead of rock n roll.

The glitzvile one has actually become one of my favorites. The og started feeling empty without the new instruments for me and it confuses me.😅

17:01 nah… naaaahhh move over, Origami Kings battle theme is better. I like it’s battle themes in general more. All TOK Battle Themes and Boss Themes are at least A Tier but some of the other Paper Mario Battle themes fall under A. Autumn Mountain and the X Naut Battle Versions are the respective ones from both Games that are S+ for me and I don’t really dislike any of the new TTYD Battle Themes, but some Boss themes, either og or remake I’m not that crazy for. I definitely sense a lot of nostalgia bias in this vid. I myself never played PM2 or watched much of it as I wanted to keep it away as to play it for myself and make my own opinion of it. I just know that it is perhaps one of the most loud fought over game in gaming for various reasons. In any case, in my opinion the TOK OST is the best Paper Mario one, but all games have good music in more or less ways. 25:44 right here to the right of the track list in the recommended videos is a video EVERYONE needs to see and experience. Line them Up! A Paper Mario The Origami King Concert from VGMTogether. It is just heavenly amazing and peak music content. So so many musicians came together making this during the covid time in the world, people like David Wise, Grant Kirkhope, Gareth Coker (all of which all people should know), GlitchXCity (a Pokemon remix maker), Joe Zeija ( Voice Actor in many games and Nintendo too) and so many more all came together to just play good music. There are many many more, I couldn’t list them all, but they do a incredible job.

Generally I prefer the remake when it comes to battle themes, but the original when it comes to overworld themes, although I havent listened tp a fair amount of the new soundtrack

I'm split the new music is good but it's been over 10 years since i've played and the soundtrack is 90% of the nostalgia trip for me. Think I'll do 2 playthroughs one for each soundtrack.

i absolutely love the new ost, overall a lil more preferred than the original but ngl some of my favorite tracks kinda got downgraded unfortunately, the main complaint I have is that most of the songs sound MUCH different than the original and don’t really give off the same feel, almost “too” different u feel a ton of the other themes that aren’t the boss themes honestly got hard upgraded tho for the most part

yup, same boat i feel. i could kinda say i prefer all the themes that aren't the boss fights lol

New music is good overall, I think some of the sfx are more of an issue considering that the OG sfx were really snappy and satisfying, sweet treat sfx is a great example

For the most part I prefer the remake's music, but I'm definitely using the Nostalgic tunes badge for yhe entirety of Chapter 3.

Boss battle themes in the original were superior to me. Rest of the OST was superior in the remake for me. The Macho Grubba theme is the biggest tragedy from the remake side.

They pretty good but some I feel like were too modernized like Cortez theme Otherwise I'd just swap between them cause I like them equally

I prefer all the chapter 8 themes over the original, they still feel creepy to me, so I don't know what you're talking about...

I definitely prefer the remade music because it fits with origami king, which has the best ost in my opinion. But i hate the tutorial new battle theme.

I might be in the minority when I say this, but I kind of hate most of the new climactic tracks in this game. I just beat chapter 6 and from all the chapters I have played so far. The climactic scenes in chapter 2, 3, and 5 (The bomb section, the machine sucking arena scene, and the ship fight) were all inferior to the original tracks in my opinion. What also makes this worse is even if you equip the nostalgic tunes badge, these new tracks are permanent with no way to switch them back to the original. If your going to advertise the option for old fans to be able to switch the songs back to the very first game, you should probably, you know, have ALL the songs in the game...

11:29 haha perhaps Club 64? 😂

You didnt even listen the full song of the remakes since they actually extended the songs for each one compare to the originals.

finally a fellow macho grubba enjoyer?

Original is better

To me I feel like the remake relies on the origami king soundfont too much. Even the sound effects are from origami king.

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My guy, take off the nostalgia-tinted glasses for five seconds. “We believe in you Mario” is objectively better in the remake than in the original. The rock makes it way more emotional. Also, the original rawk hawk theme is actual empty garbage. I bet my entire life savings on the fact that if you didn’t have nostalgia for the original game, then you would prefer the new version of every song.