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Compressed Air Go-Kart Engine 

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The engine is a 2 Horse Briggs model 62502, which is a 6 cubic inch engine. I welded double lobes on the camshaft, so that it intakes compressed air inthru the existing exhaust port, usinf the 1/2" pipe thread to hold the air line. The original inlet port is now used for exhausting the used air.
The 7 gallon air tank starts out at 125psi, but doesn't last very long, since it is only 1.1 cubic feet of volume. This means that I have about 8 cubic feet of air at 125psi. The engine will run down to about 10 psi, but can't power the go-kart at that low of a pressure.
I discovered a problem thatlowers the power, and uses more air - the inlet valve blows off the seat at only 80psi :( So this wastes any pressure higher than that, right out the exhaust valve. I am correcting this problem now!

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@fjkingswood
@fjkingswood 11 лет назад
By using the intake valve as the exhaust you have also given the air the path of least resistance to get out of the motor which allows the engine to run more efficiently than if you had simply forced air down the intake. Great job.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 11 лет назад
Actually it is the opposite, with say 100psi of air feeding it, the little 2 horse Briggs has so much toque that you can hardly stop the shaft when squeezing it as hadr as you can wearing a leather welding glove! I believe it is due to the air continuing to come into the cylinder while the piston is descending, while a gasoline engine starts losing combustion pressure as soon as the piston starts to move down. This thing tops out at about 1100 rpm (but it is in effect a 2 stroke)
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 12 лет назад
Thanks, I actually built this thing 12 years ago, but that was before my vid camera days! Then I tore the compressed air motor off, and put on a gasoline 5 horse, the kids had a great time on it, I swear we must have put 300 miles on it over the years!
@GatheringSticks
@GatheringSticks 12 лет назад
awesome job...look forward to your mods to extend its range.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 11 лет назад
I have filled the head with JB, but you have to be careful not to block off the flow from the valves to the cylinder, if you get too carried away. Yes, putting an "O" ring or something around the valve stem would help reduce wastage into the crankcase!
@claybornlewis276
@claybornlewis276 Год назад
Take the head off and put a flat piece of Steel on there
@LectronCircuits
@LectronCircuits Год назад
O my goodness. Cheers!
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 10 лет назад
Sorry to say, it only makes the loop down the driveway, onto the road and back. About 10 years ago I had a similar setup on the same gokart, with a 10 gallon air tank, it seemed to have better range, but still only a few hundred feet. The gokart gained a bunch of weight with the roll cage, so that doesn't help now. A lighter weight vehicle say with 3 bicycle tires may do a lot better, I am sure engine efficiency can be increased also.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 11 лет назад
Yes, I bet that would extend the range, possibly even make it continue moving slowly until I shut the gas engine down. It is amazing how much energy is lost compressing the air, mainly in the form of rejected heat thru the compressor.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 11 лет назад
I hadn't thought of it that way :) This thing still could use lots of work, I want more range out of it, I am building a larger motor, hoping it will power the cart at lower pressures.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 11 лет назад
Hope it helps out, I did a lot of step by step developement on this type of engine a few years ago, that how I found out about the nasty valve seat leaks. These engines don't make any heat, so that helps out a lot in choices of materials to use. I also remove the oil ring since I run grease on the crankshaft. I am not sure what the best oil is, since the engine doesn't get hot.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 11 лет назад
Yes, one wheel drive does save tire wear on pavement, and it doesn`t handle very badly, it wants to pull a bit on gravel, but will still swerve around fine. I haven`t thought of using steam, mainly just because of the danger. But a fellow youtuber has sucessfully ran a steam powered Briggs this size, so I have thought of doing it. I just have so many projects on the go that I haven`t tried out steam yet.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 10 лет назад
Yes, that is true. posi can be a tricky thing to handle sometimes though, easy to loose it with too much power and not enough tire!
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 12 лет назад
Are you using a plastic camshaft? If so. I would roughen the surface up, maybe even drill a few shallow holes, anything to help the JB grip it. I had a similar problem with the plastic starter gear on my electric start 4 horse, it was missing 1 tooth. I JB'd up a new tooth, but it came off a short while later, plastic is hard to stick to!
@dlwatib
@dlwatib 10 лет назад
It's sad how many people have so little knowledge of physics that they think the equivalent of perpetual motion will work. No, boys and girls, you can't run the exhaust of an air engine back to the tank. After the air gets out of the engine it doesn't have enough pressure to go back in the tank. And you can't boost the pressure back up with a mechanical compressor running off the engine, because that would rob all the power from the engine and not leave any for useful work.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 10 лет назад
Thanks for that concise explanation, I appreciate it, as I tend to be long winded sometimes! :)
@77appyi
@77appyi 10 лет назад
correct ..but thier will be some energy left in the exhaust which can power a second larger piston ..same as a compound steam engine
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 10 лет назад
True, and I have thought of doing that (to make a second larger cylinder fed by the exhaust air), hard to say, perhaps I will get around to doing it someday. Quadruple expansion here I come!!! :)
@diegobarreto9012
@diegobarreto9012 5 лет назад
And if we use a turbo charger in the exhaust that compreses the air would we be able to return the air to the tank using a check valve to prevent the air from returning back though the exhaust would that work ?
@danielhaskins519
@danielhaskins519 5 лет назад
Bruco Alidas yea fucking right
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 12 лет назад
Interesting idea, you may have just inspired me to make more FrankenBriggs engines! Thanks for the advice! I will subscribe to your channel, so it will send you the vids (if I make some new ones)
@fizzguts
@fizzguts 10 лет назад
It's a side valve so make an new head from plate with a pocket over the valve. Air is fed into the pocket, the valve opens into the old exhaust port which is blocked off by a blanking plat with a tube which feeds the air to a hole drilled through the head over the piston Steam engine conversions were like this in the 1940's
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 12 лет назад
Yes, my son sugeested a CO2 tank. It would extend the range quite a bit, and I may do something like that in the future. I didn't even have any oil in this engine, so it wouldn't live long on the grease oiling. I plan to use compressor oil in it, just a reduced qauntity. Yes, I think I will install a regulator, that would also help extend the range. I am making engine improvements right now :)
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 12 лет назад
Another person said the same thing, that it ran backwards. I think I moved the cam timing 3 teeth one way, as I have a new timing mark on it. I think I ground the old exhaust lobe off, then welded the new double lobes on, so the one I put the air into now has all new lobes on the cam, timed to work this way.
@SuperKONR
@SuperKONR 12 лет назад
I'm wondering how you made it run regular clockwise with the exhaust as the intake, did you change the cam timing? Mine runs backwards with the air going in the exhaust.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 12 лет назад
Interesting idea, Nitrogen, I hadn't thought of that! I think 250 psi is way too high, I would have a guyser of gas coming out the valve cover area, leaking by the valve guide! I think I will regulate it down to 80psi, so it doesn't pop the valve off the seat, and waste air. I am alos going to add some compressor oil to help lube the cylinder wall better, reducing friction.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 12 лет назад
I don't know, that is starting to sound like perpetual motion a bit! :) I do have something related in mind to try though, thanks for watching my crazy machines :)
@7cperformance314
@7cperformance314 7 лет назад
now we just need an oxygen tank and regulator from a cutting torch
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 7 лет назад
lol, that would definitely allow me to take it for a drive down the street!
@Mr3wheeledbike
@Mr3wheeledbike 12 лет назад
Charger you ever thought of using a SCBA tank my dad was a pro diver and he said the has like 2000 PSi in them and that was in the 80's and 90's I don't know how much It could be but with a regulator it could GE a rideable or more practical car great work man!
@robertchall8576
@robertchall8576 7 лет назад
why dont just run a gas motor.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 12 лет назад
Just a wacko suggestion, could you drill a small hole, say 1/8" or less into the camshaft (the steel shaft part), and either tap threads into it, or screw in a wood or sheet metal screw, then cut the head off, leaving a shaft that the JB could surround. The steel would be fairly strong still I think. That is a tricky situation.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 12 лет назад
Oh, I had to monkey with the cam timing also, I know this one has a new set of timing marks on the cam. I would run a full speed cam, but I only have 1 crankcase cover modified for that, and I am planning to use it on another engine. Plus, with going to a model 10 engine, everything is out the window! Time to start over welding up another cam etc. Guess I also need to adapt the 1/2" pipe to 3/4" for the larger engine.
@danhart8147
@danhart8147 7 лет назад
sweet thanks for you time.. nice basic build... but use a carbon fiber tank Incase of accident no schrappnal ;).. also maybe add in a small solar panel and air pump? + a oilless 1/4 inch tool oil tank. a spray gun or pressure sensitive control for the air control. then just use the handle for the master kill switch. add in a nice PMA or pmg design and generate even more power.. add magnets to your flywheel? and some coils to collect.. also some charge controllers for the solar and the magnetic generator. install some lights and better suspension. tire rims. a bloating body and maybe a jetski turbine for marine or sell it as a addon but make every vehicle float. add some ac maybe a small pelter module design or a separate compressor that can be activated with a electric clutch driving from a separate wheel or just the solar and electric storage. infred heating or just take the warmth from the DrLs hid cooling fins and the breaks also add in a system for regenerative breaking like the Prius. then go even further and add in devices you can ad on to manually charge or set and boost charging like a vertical wind turbine. and have people exercise... pump up your pressure. get fit stay healthy and save the planet.. one Hart car at a time ;) maybe even add in a HHO Generator feature to power the motor as well. let's just top all of that and make the wheels have frictionless bearings or use the pressure aquire in a turbine design and not with a combustion based crank design. turbines and window charging solar restoring. crypto mining Smart super car. Add in googles Android smart radio / phone.. wifi hotspot. Xfinity sponsorship with some hot wheels and even pimp my ride ;) and we got the best product available with quality and ethics always first. 60% of proceeds go to the needy to help those in need and wildlife preserve. 30% to the many future technology advancements and bolt on attachments and upgrades soon to be available once we start building the perfect and last needed ground transportation​. Eco Friendly. Community Neighbor Friend and Family Fund. Global Transportation Stability and Energy building assistance. Whole World​ Unity. The Hart Kart. #Lumen Dan J Hart
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 12 лет назад
I will look into that, it would be nice to go furhter than 100 feet!!!! lol I am going to fasten a seccond 10 gallon tank on, so that should more than double the range. Plus I am building a longer stroke motor, that hopefully will use the air more efficiently, also extending the range. Lots of fun things to experiment with :)
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 11 лет назад
In principle you are right, but a one wheel drive kart actually doesn't go too badly. This one came like this, so I have kept it that way.
@xoxoXoieoxox
@xoxoXoieoxox 12 лет назад
man that cam sounds like its realy well ground but what i dont understand is every motor i have double lobed and put in the exsaust it runns bacwards i cant tell from the video ur look like its running the right way how did u get it to do that or am i just missing somthing (i got a little bolnd in me lol =3-
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 12 лет назад
HeHe, you are being fooled by the camera! I saw that when I watched it on vid, the tire is actually turning counter clockwise, to drive the gokart forward. The camera shutter speed is messing the vid up. I cut off the inlet air early, while the exhaust air has pretty much the full stroke to expel the air. This engine will run backwards also, I just make sure the flywheel is positioned correctly for CCW rotation at the sprocket end. I am working on a model 10 (4 horse) motor, 2-1/8" stroke.
@user-gl2yr7fw9y
@user-gl2yr7fw9y 5 лет назад
Super. А как отрегулировал клапана ?
@2LateIWon
@2LateIWon 12 лет назад
interesting concept
@Mr3wheeledbike
@Mr3wheeledbike 12 лет назад
hey i have not dropped the steam engine project instead i ran unto a snag, jb weld or quick steel wont work, it shears the lob. so got any other ideas?????? thanks
@justinliberty9647
@justinliberty9647 10 лет назад
I got a Briggs Raptor 3 on the kart and i was wondering how many thousandths I can go bigger with the stock block. I do have an Arch aluminum rod on it,but every thing else is stock. Its not a lawn mower motor its a race motor without the governor. It is a five horse block but to my knowledge it is equivalent or maybe higher than an eight horse. thanks
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 12 лет назад
Yes, I get a very limited supply from a 7 gallon air pig at 125psi :( I am working on that, folks have been giving me some good ideas :)
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 11 лет назад
Really, yours uses more air than this! This is only a 6 cubic inch engine. I also welded new cam lobes on, and seriously reduced the height and duration of the intake air lobe ( I think the valve only lifts about 1/32 of an inch now). I time the outlet valve so that it is open for most of the piston stroke. Is it possible it is blowing the inlet air valve off the valve seat (I shimmed the spring also to make it stiffer) the valve seat in the block can also leak, JB Weld can cure that.
@Richard-sl8xj
@Richard-sl8xj 8 месяцев назад
Question for you. Is there any reason you can't tap into the intake side now and use that to refill the air tank?
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 7 месяцев назад
You could tap into it, but the air being exhausted is at a lower pressure than the air going into the engine. The pressure drop is what generates the power. You feed in high pressure air, then you close off the inlet, the air expands while pushing the piston down, generating shaft power. When the outlet valve opens it blows down to atmospheric pressure while pushing out the air in the cylinder. Thus you can't reroute the exhaust air back into the pressure tank, since it is at a much lower pressure. You could feed it into a second, lower pressure tank, and feed that to another piston, that would be a type of compound engine :)
@stylinwiley
@stylinwiley 12 лет назад
is there a way to trap the air coming out to feed it back into the motor?
@cafelopez4088
@cafelopez4088 7 лет назад
Hello. Is this motor a gasoline motor and you decided to change it in an air-motor?
@gordonfroese2359
@gordonfroese2359 7 лет назад
Cafe Lopez yes I am doing the same thing with an engine exactly like it
@charlesjohnson7150
@charlesjohnson7150 6 лет назад
So could you in turn run this motor on an air compressor efficiently supplying compressed air back to the motor?
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 6 лет назад
You could do that, but the efficiency lose would be very high. I run a 4 horse compressor for a few minutes to fill the tank, and I only get about a 30 second run out of the engine, so compressed air isn't a very good transfer medium. There is a lot of heat lose in the compressor, but the opposite happens in the engine, it gets cooler due to the air expanding!
@coltonshipley8364
@coltonshipley8364 8 месяцев назад
Im just wondering about oil if your compressing air into where the motor is supposed to exhaust then it would make the motor run backwards and wouldnt it create pressure the opposite way to pushing oil out or would it cycle oil the same as normal just in reverse without causing anything like pushing all the oil out the crank case breather hose and on the ground idk just asking how that would work
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 8 месяцев назад
Yes, you covered some good points there. I had yo make many modifications to have this operate correctly. I welded 2 extra lobes onto the camshaft, and ground the existing lobes down as needed. You keep the air inlet valve open for only a short time. I don't use any oil, other than when I assemble the piston into the cylinder. I grease the crank and connection rod, and leave the oil filler plug out, to allow any air that blows by the piston rings to escape easily, and not cause back pressure on the piston. I also had to install shims to increase the spring pressure on the exhaust valve, which is now the intake valve, since the air pressure will lift it off the valve seat! This engine will run happily without oil, since there is no heat being produced, in fact it may actually be getting cooler as it runs, since the compressed air is expanding.
@coltonshipley8364
@coltonshipley8364 8 месяцев назад
I love the way you explained that makes sense and very interesting and intelligent 👍
@Mr3wheeledbike
@Mr3wheeledbike 12 лет назад
and i want so badly to finish this project! got a pulse jet maby and also a deltic, not burnt out just want it to run
@smallenginedude71
@smallenginedude71 8 лет назад
Thats very neat
@brucebinkley4084
@brucebinkley4084 9 лет назад
That tank will push the cart for about 50 feet. The cycle of any internal combustion engine is far too short to make good use of steam or compressed air. They utilize the speed of expanding combustion gasses to make power, and are optimized for that. To make power from compressed air or steam, you would want a very long stroke and a SLOWLY moving reciprocating assembly. OR you can use a turbine (like in a hand held air drill) but these require giant volumes of air. A piston driven long stroke turning the same speed of the wheels (or even slower) would work much better.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 9 лет назад
Bruce Binkley I believe I got this to run more than 100 feet on a flat area, however you make a good point. I started working on a longer stroke engine a few years back, but haven't completed it, I will have to put it back onto my hit list :)
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 12 лет назад
So it is a plastic cam causing you grief?
@hellsgunz1006
@hellsgunz1006 10 лет назад
What if you re-use the (exhaust) air? Wouldn't that make it have Perpetual air? Well, not really perpetual, but significantly increase its range?
@mitchellspanheimer9663
@mitchellspanheimer9663 10 лет назад
No, because the air wouldn't have any were to go, and the tank would still be sitting there with compressed air in it. You have to have a difference in air pressure for it to move...
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 10 лет назад
Yes, you have to have a difference in pressure, or nothing happens.
@safsafsatofa5904
@safsafsatofa5904 5 лет назад
God bless you for nice and good work. Do you hear about. Bob neal's equalizer for sure if you study it you will made the change. Anyway I am working in this equalizer for now I am glad for what I got. In short time I will start share my work
@Mr3wheeledbike
@Mr3wheeledbike 12 лет назад
i never looked into co2 tanks whats there rating
@fjkingswood
@fjkingswood 11 лет назад
You would probably be better off using a smaller motor like a 4-stroke whipper snipper because the smaller the cylinder the smaller volume of air needed to fill it each cycle. I don't know if it would have enough power to drive the go kart but it would defiantly use less air.
@briandavis414
@briandavis414 9 лет назад
It's amazing when all you have to do is think of the possibilities... As well as question everything, such as the fans on turbos today. There small and completly insufficient when you look at them. Just putting a bigger fan on a turbo that is more efficient is going to make monster gains in power and boost. Especially at lower RPM's, where there is apparent lag?
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 9 лет назад
Brian Davis Yes, there sure are lots of possibilities to think about.I was doing some imagining the other day: Lets see, so a Turbo Compounded Deltic engine put out 5600 horsepower in 1956, using steel connecting rods. Then a con rod broke, and the test run was over. What would the possibilities be using Titanium connecting rods, 7000, 8000 horsepower!!!?That would probably be enough to light up and melt all of the steel drive wheels on a Deltic locomotive!!!That sure would make for one great youtube vid! :)(If you don't know what a Deltic is, look it up, it is a truly unique engine!)
@briandavis414
@briandavis414 9 лет назад
ChargerMiles007 I can only guess the rods broke because of the torque put out by them? Titanium rods and softer way of applying the torque to the ground. Either that, or they weren't using ball bearings on the piston/wrist pin and connecting rod journals. And YES that is a really unique design considering it was a two stroke (wonder if they compensated with a horned pipe? That alone is the best mode you can use with a 2-stroke!).... . That would be one bad ass engine in a smaller scale, even if it was on a 3/6 cylinder/piston engine. It's to bad we are stuck with the plain old V, or inline engines in cars and trucks (besides the boxer engine, which is a better design than a V?), and the 2-4 stroke options with smaller vehicles like snowmobiles and 4-wheelers. They really need to bring back the Wankel... I think by now they have worked the bugs out with the Apex seal, if the simply used a curved (like a C) seal with a spring, and redesigned the port on the rotor, so it directs that power in pre-ignition in one direction. Than you can run it off fuel oil (or 100% octane, the way all gas should come out the pump) with higher compression ratios! Might have better low end torque than... especially with a turbo! . I read somewhere on wiki about the U having these engines in boats. The Germans had the same engines except they where running diesel, while the US was running gas? Of-course the U.S. had problems with fires (I'm guessing they had problems with the engines blowing up... pre-ignition watered down gas. Can't help but think they water-down the gas with something that makes it ignite under pressure. They do say more compression more power!), and I bet the engines just blew up! Brings back that theory that the U.S. was actually the Nazi's getting back there slaves that didn't want to join that snuff cult called Christianity.... I think that is going on now!?
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 9 лет назад
Brian Davis I don't know about all the US/German stuff you mentioned, but the German E-boats used diesel engines, and didn't blow up as easily under gunfire, as the British boats which used gasoline engines. So after WW2, the British wanted a light diesel engine for use in their torpedo boats, so they used the German 2 stroke opposed piston idea, and developed the Napier Deltic engine. It started out with a supercharger, then used a turbo-charger with charge cooling, and eventually they made an experimental turbo-compounded version which produced 5600 horse before it suffered a con rod failure.
@WastelandSeven
@WastelandSeven 9 лет назад
I wonder if you could extend the range by using a solar panel to charge a battery, which then could power a small air compressor attached to the tank. It might be stop and go, but, you'd probably extend your range a bit and make the system somewhat self contained.
@WastelandSeven
@WastelandSeven 9 лет назад
ChargerMiles007 Saved their sites for later reading. But, I don't doubt there is lots of energy loss here as this is a hack of existing technology rather than a purpose engineered compressed air engine. Still, that it can be made to work at all with something not designed for it, shows the possible potential of the technology.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 9 лет назад
True. Compressed air engines were used a lot for driving torpedoes. Mine is more like a steam engine being run on air.
@Mr3wheeledbike
@Mr3wheeledbike 12 лет назад
i could try that but one small problem charger the hole cam i plastic but the 2 ends the middle is all plastic (cheap)
@hellohun7331
@hellohun7331 7 лет назад
I noticed you don't have any oil in the crankcase. Why would that be?
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 7 лет назад
Oil isn't needed, as i have grease lubed the crankshaft, plus the engine doesn't make any heat, so flinging oil around would just take extra power. in fact teflon piston rings would be a bonus.
@duckslayer92
@duckslayer92 6 лет назад
Uhh.....
@Ducky_fpv
@Ducky_fpv 6 лет назад
????... sometimes i cant.. has the ability to turn a gas engine into one that runs on compressed air.. doesnt understand how lubrication and friction works
@broughttoideas
@broughttoideas 6 лет назад
djm3nta1 theres no heat. No need for oil jez just think its not that complicated
@LectronCircuits
@LectronCircuits 10 лет назад
How far can you drive on a charge? 700 feet would be totally awesome!
@claybornlewis276
@claybornlewis276 Год назад
Launch he sits on it and tries to go it's not going to have enough power to even move him
@dakotadriggers8838
@dakotadriggers8838 6 лет назад
If you ran this engine backwards would it work as an air compressor?
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 6 лет назад
It would work as an air compressor, but a very bad one. The reason is the timing and type of valves used. they work OK as a motor, but not so well as a compressor. I did a vid series on building an air compressor from a lawnmower engine, using various combinations. The best set up is air operated disc valves, followed by a ball valve for exhaust using the regular intake valve for inlet, with double lobes on the camshaft to open the valve on every downward stroke of the piston. All kinds of combinations are possible, but reed or disc valves work the most efficiently, since much of the air in the cylinder is recycled the percentage will depend on the outlet pressure. The higher the pressure, the greater the percentage of air that is recycled. reducing the dead volume above the piston will also help out, so a diesel engine would be better than a low compression gasoline engine. I could go on, but perhaps I am already boring you! :)
@cafelopez4088
@cafelopez4088 7 лет назад
Is this motor overunity?
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 11 лет назад
Yes, indeed it would be! Running an air compressor with a gas engine, using the air to power an compressed air engine driving another air compressor would be a total waste of energy! I don't know what the overall efficiency would be, but it is very low. There is just too much heat energy lost compressing the air. My 4 horse compressor hammers away for a few minutes to pump the tank to 125psi, then the air motor gobbles it in 20 seconds :( Put 4 horse motor on go-kart...much more fun :)
@AndreLuiz-ip3fh
@AndreLuiz-ip3fh 4 года назад
Where we can see a video of this go kart running?
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 4 года назад
I know I have a vid of it here on this channel, it should be called compressed air go kart, as I remember driving it out of the driveway, down the street and back into the driveway.
@Mr3wheeledbike
@Mr3wheeledbike 12 лет назад
yes i got holes and a rough surface, its sheered 2 bother were on not the same spots
@xtraflo
@xtraflo 5 лет назад
How long will the engine run on one tank of air ? 1-minute??
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 5 лет назад
I did no load tests about 20 years ago, if my memory is right, a 10 gallon air pick at 120 psi will run the engine at idle 3 1/2 minutes. The max rpm was 1100, down to something like 80 rpm at idle. i made a bunch of mods to it to try to improve efficiency, such as filling the head in with epoxy, going with only 1 ring, I even tried to make a plastic ring, but that didn't pan out. have you seen the vid where I drive the kart onto the road?
@000mrman105
@000mrman105 11 лет назад
how did u get it to run so fast and not use so much air? my air engine is a pig, help!!!!!!!!!!
@realflow100
@realflow100 7 лет назад
use a mini ram air pump to pump a little bit of the waste back into the system!!!! if you got it efficient enough it would last longer by a few percent!
@njmvermont
@njmvermont 11 лет назад
Have you thought about making it steam powered? if you did some research im sure you could do it safely.
@davidallen3050
@davidallen3050 3 года назад
HEY DUDE ,DID YOU DO ANYTHING TO THE PISTON RINGS ?
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 3 года назад
In this case I removed all but the top piston ring, to reduce drag. i didn't need the oil ring, as there is no oil in the crankcase, I just oil/grease lubed everything up. I did install a top ring with a tighter end gap, to minimize blow by, but it will work fine with a normal ring. Ideally a teflon or nylon ring would work better, but I didn't have any luck trying to fabricate one. Hope that helps. Most of the modification time was on the camshaft lobes, the inlet lobe is very small. In the end, a full speed camshaft works better, as it operates much faster allowing more precise control of the valves, as well as higher lift on the intake, if that is required.
@ROTAXD
@ROTAXD 7 лет назад
Why ?
@000mrman105
@000mrman105 11 лет назад
thank u
@MrTM-fg6zn
@MrTM-fg6zn 4 года назад
You can use an impact wrench. Get another for posi!
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 4 года назад
LOL, yes, I bet that would work, they are usually a vane type motor.
@josephdupont
@josephdupont 3 года назад
Heat the air with the sun as it come out.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 3 года назад
LOL
@MrTM-fg6zn
@MrTM-fg6zn 4 года назад
How would that variable valve timing help in this application?
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 4 года назад
yes, it probably would!
@MrTM-fg6zn
@MrTM-fg6zn 4 года назад
Cam lobe or cam gear ratio is a good place to start!
@MrTM-fg6zn
@MrTM-fg6zn 4 года назад
Have you modified a diesel engine? 🚭
@Matthewbarnes23
@Matthewbarnes23 Год назад
Make the exhaust go back into the air tank and it will be infinite air since the air can only go one way but make sure the tank can only have air traveling one way from both ends basically meaning having air come into the air tank in one hole and out the other but it can only come in through that one and out the other
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 Год назад
Sounds like perpetual motion to me :)
@Matthewbarnes23
@Matthewbarnes23 Год назад
@@ChargerMiles007 yes I drew it out and it technically is perpetual motion
@njmvermont
@njmvermont 11 лет назад
yea many commercial go karts have one wheel drive because with no differential they wouldnt turn as well and tires would wear out on pavement
@wanabe11
@wanabe11 10 лет назад
bro...can that 7 gallon or 10 gallon tank powered air grinder...??? please reply...because i also have a project to make air powered scooter by using air grinder....do you think it can work??
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 10 лет назад
That is an interesting question!I don't own an air grinder, so I don't know what their air consumption rate is.I imagine it would have the power to drive the scooter, but it would probably have very short range, like my go-kart. I would think that a scooter would be quite a bit lighter than my go-kart, so that would help to extend the range. On the other hand, I think that a piston type engine would be more air-efficient than a grinder (which is probably a vane type unit, somewhat like a turbine). For the price of a 10 gallon air tank, I would say, give it a try, it could make you a RU-vid Hero!!! :)
@berko5059
@berko5059 8 лет назад
very nice its agood project
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 8 лет назад
+Alisaime Polat Thanks, I have been playing around with this engine for about 10 years now.
@billlastwits8229
@billlastwits8229 9 лет назад
Good question. Why Better question. Why the hell not!
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 9 лет назад
bill lastwits lolyes, just experimenting with compressed air power! One of those Hmmmm, I wonder if this will work scenarios :)I still have this, and all my other engines I have built over the years, though I do borrow the odd part from one to complete my newest projects.
@zeusanton4147
@zeusanton4147 10 лет назад
hi, I was wondering if you could e-mail me some info on your set up with this engine. what is the psi your using to get the engine to work. also have you tried using the flywheel to turn a air pump so that it continues to pressurize the air tank as it's running. thank you.
@nickkluger97
@nickkluger97 8 лет назад
+Zeus Anton That wouldn't work.
@Indi_DevJames
@Indi_DevJames Год назад
What about using a impact tool with a gear reduction?
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 Год назад
It might work, but I think it would gobble the air much more quickly.
@Indi_DevJames
@Indi_DevJames Год назад
@@ChargerMiles007 also check h Out how ac compressors work there like mini engines
@MRG8091
@MRG8091 6 лет назад
But won’t the piston and cylinder wall heat up because there is no more gas and oil to keep it cool
@nightmareinaction629
@nightmareinaction629 6 лет назад
MRG8091 tbh do you even know how an engine work
@nightmareinaction629
@nightmareinaction629 6 лет назад
MRG8091 one I am not from Isis and I seem to be more educated than you this engine wont heat up because it has had it's compression and ignition cycle removed it's only intake and exhaust when air gets compressed it heats up but the air inside this thing is not getting compressed since its pushing the piston down there would be some heat from friction but just warm to the touch and oil does not cool this engines like a car one does were is passes though a radiator or though water cooling but water cooling cools the cylinder mostly and some oil
@abdalmassihlail5853
@abdalmassihlail5853 4 года назад
How to do exactly the same and what is the capacity of the motor??
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 4 года назад
The motor is 8 cubic inch (130 cc), look for my video titled "full speed camshaft" , it shows what I did to the engine. Basically you make it into something like a steam engine, running on compressed air. I warn you though, these engine just gobble the air like no tomorrow!
@abdalmassihlail5853
@abdalmassihlail5853 4 года назад
ChargerMiles007 Thank you, my friend, but can you provide me with more information about the model speed, the capacity of the air compressor, the mechanical diameters, and more to produce such a model?
@melanticagaming1877
@melanticagaming1877 5 лет назад
Connect the engine to an air compressor and let the engine pump air and it goes through the cycle again and you get more run time
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 5 лет назад
I wish it would, unfortunately friction and heat loses make it a losing proposition.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 12 лет назад
That wouidn't help, since the air is at very low pressure when it comes out.
@fpstina
@fpstina 11 лет назад
i think perpetual motion is a bit more complicated than that.
@redneckbryon
@redneckbryon 12 лет назад
Only problem with that on a Go-Kart is having enough air!
@fredrikh2003
@fredrikh2003 7 лет назад
do you even need the flywheel??
@nightmareinaction629
@nightmareinaction629 6 лет назад
Hn Yo he does actually so the piston comes back up
@swabbster3
@swabbster3 12 лет назад
if you did that to like a 4hp lawn mower engine and riged it up with a lawn tractor trans had a few air tanks you could have something
@shinyfuzzy
@shinyfuzzy 12 лет назад
why don't you just put regular oil in it?
@dw807
@dw807 10 лет назад
High pressure tanks and a regulator would increase range and available power.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 10 лет назад
Yes, the tanks especially would help out with range. I tried a regulator on my 125psi tank, don't know if it didn't flow enough or what, but it didn't work out very well. Though I guess I would need one for sure high a high pressure tank, or the engine would go BOOM!!!! :)
@gskeezyio
@gskeezyio Год назад
10 yrs ago wow......
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 Год назад
Yes, isn't that crazy, time has really flown by, then again the last 2 years seem like a blurr!
@MrLewjohnson59
@MrLewjohnson59 9 лет назад
Why couldn't you capture the spent oxygen back into the tank from the exhaust in a closed loop to maintain supply and operating pressure then eliminating the need to refill?
@danyala.1659
@danyala.1659 9 лет назад
you lose pressure?
@gamedodo5397
@gamedodo5397 8 лет назад
stupid
@danyala.1659
@danyala.1659 8 лет назад
aliwael ihsan Me?
@gamedodo5397
@gamedodo5397 8 лет назад
No she is
@danyala.1659
@danyala.1659 8 лет назад
aliwael ihsan lol
@booneyscb
@booneyscb 6 лет назад
I have this. It's called an air impact wrench.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 6 лет назад
LOL
@Krowka666
@Krowka666 7 лет назад
you really should have used a centrifugal clutch on it
@mrcurtgaming
@mrcurtgaming 9 месяцев назад
Wow be good it it recycled back into the tank with a one way check valve
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 9 месяцев назад
I am pretty sure there is a law of thermodynamics that says that it would be an impossible perpetual motion device if that actually were to work. :)
@briandavis414
@briandavis414 9 лет назад
Cool....
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 9 лет назад
Brian Davis Glad you liked it, I am sure there are lore efficient ways to do this, but this one was easiest for me.
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 12 лет назад
HaHaHa lol :) Yes, I do the same thing, figure I don't need something, so I get rid of it, then a month later, when they are ALL Extinct like the Wholly Mammouths, I despairately need one!!! I have stopped doing that with Briggs stuff, I Hord it all !!!! I have 158 Briggs engines in various states of disrepair!!! About 12 are running engines. I used to take them apart, and store the pieces, now I just leave them together, they take up less space that way!
@ziggybarth5026
@ziggybarth5026 4 года назад
Could cut the fins off the flywheel for a little less resistance
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 4 года назад
Yes, I did that on a larger version of a compressed air engine that I have never ran. It put the flywheel seriously out of balance, though that was a steel flywheel, an all aluminum might fair differently.
@paradiselost9946
@paradiselost9946 Год назад
old video. sad how youtube has gotten so dull now, noone posts this fun stuff anymore... anyway... idea. you got compressed air. it lost all its heat when you compressed it. when its released, it expands, but it cools down, as it is absorbing heat from its surrounds so it CAN expand. if it was kept all nicely insulated you would basically be liquefying it (with a few stages of course...) as there would be no heat to absorb. now, you can compress air in stages... its much more efficient. and you can expand it in stages... also more efficient... then you dump the air. sigh. cold air. double sigh. moan. so.... multi cylinder. assume you can get 1000 psi or more in your tank, no silly 150 psi nonsense. from tank, into a heat exchanger. then, say a 30cc brushcutter as first stage. exhausts into a heat exchanger. feeds into a second cylinder, standard briggsy. expands again. back into another stage of heat exchanger, then finally... fed through a carb and into a third cylinder, still with a decent pressure behind it... where its combusted in a simple "twostroke" cycle, a lenoir type cycle with no compression as the gas is already compressed... and the exhaust is then dumped back through the heat exchangers.... heat the compressed air between stages using your waste exhaust heat to increase the amount of expansive work it can perform in the cylinder. every 249C you can get the air to is double the work it can perform.
@esmi000
@esmi000 10 лет назад
Pointless, oh and congrats that you made your kart slower !
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 10 лет назад
esmi000 For experimentation purposes only.You are correct, the kart is MUCH slower with compressed air power!
@ziggybarth5026
@ziggybarth5026 4 года назад
What a dink
@xtraflo
@xtraflo 5 лет назад
So now get a battery powered motor to fill the Air Tank !!
@livingstonrc4706
@livingstonrc4706 7 лет назад
2 horse? My slash nitro makes 1.3 with a .20 cubic inch (3.3cc) but it's on an rc car
@vantage224
@vantage224 5 лет назад
yeah an rc not a go kart lmao
@zl707hp
@zl707hp 5 лет назад
Why not just return the air back to the tank with a valve
@7467277
@7467277 11 лет назад
Now just put a gas engine on it to drive the compressor instead of a air tank. Then you might go further than 50ft.
@abdalmassihlail5853
@abdalmassihlail5853 4 года назад
Can i make the same engine???and how??
@ChargerMiles007
@ChargerMiles007 4 года назад
It has been a number of years since I made these videos, but I am pretty sure if you search my channel, you will find vids on how i made the camshaft to operate this on compressed air. I think " Down2aScience" has also made a similar compressed air engine. The main idea is to re-time the valves to operate mote like a steam engine.
@abdalmassihlail5853
@abdalmassihlail5853 4 года назад
ChargerMiles007 What if I remove the carburetor and ignition fuse from the 2 stroke motor, will it work?
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 10 лет назад
you only have on driving wheel on your car unless you have posi.
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