Confirmed: Vivian is Trans in the Paper Mario TTYD Remake! 

Wth is everyone talking about? Vivian is NOT transparent. I know most ghosts are, but that doesn’t mean every ghost has to be see-through. Opaque ghosts need representation too.

This isn’t something new. Vivian was already trans in non-American versions of Thousand Year Door.

V: "I'm trans-" M: "Cool." V: "-parent." *disappears* M: "What?"

So does the mean we’re finally getting Mother 3?

I'm surprised Nintendo said the quiet part loud, it's not usually in their nature And yes, I've seen a bunch of videos calling the remake "woke" already.

Oh Lord, Twitter is about to explode now

"It took me a while to realize i was their sister... not their brother." Is there something above text? Like subtext but opposite?

Damn, I guess Birdo's got some competition now.

Vivian being trans was only censored in the english and german versions I remember how in the french version Beldam says to Vivian -et ou vois-tu trois soeurs, t'est un garson!(and were do you see tree sisters, you are a boy) As well as a few other dialogues

surprised this is getting more backlash than the whole feet thing hooktail's had going on for 20 years

Oh boy, I can't wait to hear all the nice things people will have to say about this in the comment section!

Genuinely cannot wait for the "Has mario GONE WOKE??" videos.

Wow. I am pretty surprised that they gave us such an explicit confirmation, I was more expecting it to me like a "We won't say for sure" type beat, but this seems pretty on the nose!

yall dont even get review copies anymore 💀

Welp people get ready to see a lot of comments on this video

It’s good news that they stick Vivian’s character to it’s original Japanese version

i know nintwitter is gonna be soyfacing all over this

Can anyone explain how Vivan is trans?Just by looking at Vivian I would assume Vivian is a female character

My stance on issues such as this will always be the same. Translations should never do anything more or less than matching the meaning and spirt of the original as closely as possible.

_logs off Twitter_

When I was a kid I thought Vivian’s front tuft of hair was her nose, I know it’s hair now but I will forever see it as a nose

Please, for the love of all God stop scrolling. You have better things to do than this.

I wonder how many people knew that the gamecube version actually censored this.

I never knew Vivian went through that until I watched this video. I've seen some more videos about the remake having a script that's more accurate to the original Japanese version of the game. That's nice to see. I wonder what other overlooked details I'll discover.

What was the original text on the USA GameCube version?

But is Vivian still broken?

Honestly I'm just glad we're still getting different colors for Yoshi in the game based off the previous footage of the game I thought they removed that feature until there was some footage of it today

I would like to see what that moment is like in other languages.

Curious what is the line in Japanese?

the fact this video has so many dislikes compaired to other gamexplain videos is *WILD*

The whole Vivian being trans thing kind of reminds me of the Red XIII voice situation that happened for Final Fantasy VII Rebirth. Where original interpretations of a character’s depiction becomes more consistent worldwide, which isn’t a necessarily a bad thing. The main issue I see with both of these situations is that it feels intrusive on what everyone in America/otherwise perceived the character originally. Overall, neither situation is a straight detriment to the character or the game, but it does go to show how inconsistencies in translations have kind of started to circle back and we’re now seeing the consequences of that for both situations. On the same coin of that though, I don’t really care if Vivian is trans. It really doesn’t actually do anything for the character outside of maybe making out her suffering and abuse from Beldam a bit more extreme and cruel. Just as much, it really doesn’t bother me that Red XIII has a high-pitched voice and talks like a kid since his overall development and arc are never impacted by it. TLDR, it doesn’t hurt anything or enhance anything. And if I’m speaking on a personal level, I’m not against it, but it is interesting nonetheless.

*Sad Birdo noise*

Vivian is *_absolutely_* going to land the final blow against Beldam in their final fight now.

Why is she called Vivian in english but Babara in german XD

Lo sabia desde el GameCube y en ese entonces no habia tanto ruido y dudo que lo haga ahora también, vivan es un personaje muy entrañable y su género queda en segundo plano

I think some people are going to throw a hissy fit over this, especially those who have issues with pandering media. My take is, it sounds like this character was always trans in the Japanese version, and it was censored/references to it were removed when it was translated. In my opinion it seems like a lot of people who dislike changes for the sake of pandering also dislike censorship, so I think this should be seen as a positive by them; this character was written to be trans from the start, and now they removed the censorship that hid that part; it should be seen as not pandering, and also a plus for removing censorship. I think the people who always get mad over pandering would actually make themselves seem more reasonable if they show that they know/researched this beforehand and hopefully won't even have an issue with it since the character was written that way.

Can someone tell me if the line is also present in the Japanese version

Funny thing is, the same people that were complaining about them censoring the cat-calling are most likely the ones complaining about the fact that Vivian is trans lmao

Soooo Mother 3?

Can someone explain this for me these comments got me confused

So they keep this in the translation but censor Goombella being catcalled? Either commit fully or don't commit at all.

can't wait for people to start claiming Nintendo is "woke"

hope the badges still stack, although it was a way to break the game and pretty much be godlike, danger mario was still fun to play around with

Everyone forgot about Birdo?

Please correct me if I'm misreading the dialog, but to me it seems to imply the opposite of Vivian being trans. Rather it seems to imply that Vivian was always a girl but was insulted by her sisters calling her a boy (or ugly like a boy) and naively believed them until later. If it was supposed to mean that she is trans, shouldn't it read "It took me a while to realize I was their brother, not their sister." as in believing to be a girl despite biologically being a boy, then reidentifying herself as female? I don't mean to be insensitive, just confused by the wording presented in the screenshot.

But we've known this right? I remember watching Chuggaconroy's original playthrough forever ago and this coming up. That or Nicob

I don't know whether to be angry or excited to see Beldam making such a fool of himself...

Ngl I personally liked Vivian the way she originally was in english as just a girl but at least we finally have an answer now. I was gonna make a joke about the legion of stationary from origami king having different genders in different regions but they are barely characters so who cares.

Is this really that big of a win for you?

Being triggered at one dialogue box confirming one of the 7 followers is trans in a 30 hour game is really stupid.

That's cool i really love vivian as a character people should not care about if she is trans or not just like bridget from guilty gear both bridget and vivian are best girls

So does this mean we're finally getting Silksong on Nintendo Switch?

I randomly reviewed the original game on metacritic like 2 years ago and suggested that if they ever do a remake there should at the very least be an option for a more accurate translation to the original. I can't believe that actually came true lol. Honestly this news is almost as exciting as the initial reveal, I think this version will feel fresh from the original, even when it otherwise remains mostly faithful to the version I played in 2004.

Ummm, there was never any debate over vivians gender. She was always trans. The controversy entirely came from the fact the original localization decided to remove that detail.

Adding it to the list

How does this prove anything? it almost seems more like, and maybe I'm remembering wrong, due to her being constantly bullied by her sisters from the very beginning... she just thought, she must be their brother since she didn't fit in with the sirens as she would if she were their sister, until she realized she wasn't...

Tbh I never really cared about the gender of Vivian I assumed she was a lady because she looks and has a name of a female plus it's just a character in a game so yeah

god this like/dislike ratio is really divided

It's best for Nintendo to remain neutral on this stuff which they have but people get weird about it. Uhhhhhh! !

Genuine question - has anyone confirmed if Vivian is trans in the Japanese text for the remake? I ask only because, even with the localized versions being more faithful to the Japanese script, there are still some differences (i.e. the Japanese remake still has the Goombas hitting on Goombella, just to a lesser extent than the original, while the English remake just removes that outright). That and (allegedly, based on some French twitter accounts I've seen talking about the French localization) the French version of the remake actually doesn't imply Vivian to be trans anymore?

Well damn, that’s uncharacteristically unsubtle of Nintendo, guess the debate is over.

They take away "Cat calling" but they add this back!

This is going to be a Bridget situation all over again isn't it, people are going to debate online about this until they just have to outright say it for the people in the back

american translators at their peak

I could not care less. It’s not a big deal. This has zero influence on me. Still my main.

Man, this makes me so happy! This, as well as all the other enhancements and changes, further hammers it in that this remake will be the definitive version of this GameCube classic!

Vivian is also TRANSparent

20 years. I had no idea this was even a debate.

WAIT I JUST REALIZED THAT PINK THING IS VIVIAN'S HAIR!!!??? I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS A WEIRD NOSE??

I remember a few weeks ago people gotten mad at those three Goombas dialogue being changed. Question. Was it changed to make the original Japanese dialogue? I remember people gotten mad that Netflix ‘removed LGBT’ content in Evangelion over it, despite the fact there was still nothing straight about that scene.

Personally if anyone has an issue with this which I doubt but doesn't change anything because I already thought this character was a girl because need I remind you every single one of their scenes like I said I'm indifferent good for any of y'all

Man, we hope people will be accepting of this information, especially since this isn't some new and was in the original game as well. (Looks at comment section) Well, looks like V1 will get tons of blood soon, because these people are going where he roams.

I’m not mad or happy just … I don’t know how to feel anymore I’m gonna touch grass or something

Vivian is alright it was sad how she was in the grass by herself on the original the only trans person i Adore

Oh boy...

They let the ghost girl be trans but they covered up the toad murder?

Its Bridget all over again...

I'm happy for people happy with this, though I'm personally more invested in Paper Mario and the Thousand-Year Door getting new gameplay additions similar to what Super Mario RPG got.

Man who gives a damn about their gender, I will never understand why Twitter will get this heated up.

Reading the comments here is remiding me of the Bridget discourse but 10x as stupid

omg news more important than if the game actually functional n plays well

Where’s their PM: TTYD review? Does GameXplain not get review copies anymore?

But what if it was their sister and.they wanted her to be their brother this doesn't confirm anything it can go both ways. All it means Is they are letting people interpret how they want it

I don't mind Vivian being trans at all. I mean it shows you who Vivian is as a character and ghost. And I'm gonna be honest, some people really need to tone down on their complaints about Vivian being trans. So let's all be happy that we got an answer and quit making controversies about it.

If I'm honest, I thought Vivian was in a similar case of Sylvando from Dragon Quest 11 in the japanese version

I think we’re missing context. We still don’t know all the changes that were made.

How is this a gaming news?

Who cares lol

Interesting change of pace from Nintendo over there. I also can’t wait to read the replies the friendly people have in store…

Y’know, I’ve played the og ttyd ages ago back when I was like 6-7yrs old and I’ve always wondered about Vivian since in the og ttyd it wasn’t explicitly stated whether or not she was trans (or if there was something else I was missing, because again, I was 6/7 lol) so it’s nice to finally get confirmation on exactly what’s going on with her.

Havent we always known this? It didnt need to be confirmed. The japanese dialogue in the original confirmed this

🤨 I personally don't care

Omg this makes so much more sense as to why they’re just called “The Three Shadows” in the remake instead of the Shadow Sisters! I was so confused by that.

Personally I don’t really care like good I guess but at the same time I’m just neutral

It’s ok when Nintendo does it

I'm pretty sure everyone that's a fan of this game already knows.

Oh boy. Here we go. Saw this coming from miles away.

I honestly only see vivian as female. Cant really see her as trans or a guy. Long pink hair, blushing cheeks, acting feminine, yeah. Female.

Is it weird that I’ve always found it weird how Vivian is trans since every other known member of her species is female?

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