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Considering a 2022 BMW R 1250 GS Adventure Motorcycle? Watch This Detailed Owners Interview First. 

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Hi Everyone. Hope you're all well. Over the weekend I was very lucky to be joined by a good friend who is also a 2022 BMW R1250 GS Adventure Triple Black owner. In this interview format video we discuss the bike in detail including which technology options to select, the costs involved, the owners experience, what it is like for a average height rider and some of the minor bug bears with this bike. Thank you Andy for agreeing to come on and do such a fantastic run down of his new motorcycle.
Gear I use:
Jacket🧥: Alpinestars Andes Touring I / RST Pro Series CPX-C Leather Jacket - Neon Green
Trousers👖: Alpinestars Andes Touring I / RST R-18 CE Leather Jeans
Gloves🧤: RST Thermotech Heated Gloves / RST Blade 2 CE Leather Gloves
Helmet: Arai: RX-7V Gold Rea edition (signed)
Boots🥾: RST Tractech EVO III
Action Camera 🎥: GoPro Hero VII x2
Audio🎵: Olympus LSP4 sound capture device
Mic🎤: Rode SmartLav+
Still images📸: Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra

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@ragnarrock8747
@ragnarrock8747 2 года назад
The surprising thing with this behemoth GS is the handling..Those are fantastic touring bikes for long distances..
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
Agreed, you can use them as touring bikes with some off road capability.
@AndyRhodes
@AndyRhodes 2 года назад
One thing to note is that the economy was best at 100-110kph motorway cruising but at 130kph it took a nose dive. It’s a difference from 4K to 5k revs and it was substantial. If you want to do high speed long distance riding I would get a K1600 or a goldwing with higher capacity engines.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
@@AndyRhodes Even on smaller capacity bikes which you would expect to sip fuel start to increase consumption after 100kph
@philipTOMPSETT
@philipTOMPSETT Год назад
Superb thanks. You mentioned the new chassis, is this on the forthcoming 1300? If on the current 1250 how would I know that the bike has the new rather than old chassis if I don’t buy new. Cheers.
@MKA63
@MKA63 9 месяцев назад
Great review. I'm looking at the 2023 version but information like this is setting me up to make better decisions (or ask the right questions) for my riding style. Well done guys!
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 9 месяцев назад
Thanks, I have to say this was all Andy! He really researched prior to his buying this bike!
@MKA63
@MKA63 4 месяца назад
@@MindfulMotorcyclist And .. I went for the Triple Black GS, but opted for only the top box, not the panniers, also the Akrapovic pipe (sounds awesome). It's already had its first service. Thanks again to both of you.
@binghumshotspot2213
@binghumshotspot2213 2 года назад
Wow loved the vid thank you much learned about the bmw gsa
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
Hi Binghum, thanks for the comment and great feedback. Much appreciated. Cheers 👍
@grantboore7954
@grantboore7954 Год назад
Hi there, I have just bought one of these, 40th Anniversary, and I was very impressed with your informative video. I pick it up next week from the dealer with very similar options plus a Garmin XT and will ride it home through most of New Zealand to run it in. Your video has inspired and excited me for that adventure and I really enjoyed your review. Thank you
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Год назад
Hi Grant, thank you kindly for the comment and support. Congratulations on your new bike and I bet you are looking forward to some spectacular scenery en-route!
@Mattthewanderer
@Mattthewanderer Год назад
It is so encouraging to hear you made a decision without regret!
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Год назад
Andy is delighted with his GS, I've not heard him mention a bad word about it!
@BryanDoesCinema
@BryanDoesCinema Год назад
Great interview, down to earth, thanks
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Год назад
That's very kind of you to say Bryan, I'm not an interviewer normally so pleased we pulled this format off! Thanks
@johnwalker2480
@johnwalker2480 Год назад
Fantastic interview and commentary from an owner. My future bike.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Год назад
Thanks John, appreciate the good feedback. Ride safe...
@dwwphoto
@dwwphoto Год назад
Well done guys. Thorough description. It’s the best motorcycle available, and worth every penny. You mentioned or suggested the next year model may have an electric windscreen. It’s a fantastic feature that I have on my K1200LT and a bike of this caliber should have it, as well as one other even more wonderful feature, reverse. Yes it will add some weight, perhaps not a lot, but it would be incredibly great to have it, especially because it can get you out of an off road jam. My GSA weighs a lot, I take it off road often, and I think having a reverser would broaden my off road choices favorably.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Год назад
Thanks Dave for the comment and positive feedback. I'll be sure to mention to Andy that you found his comments useful. It is certainly Britain's best selling motorcycle year in year out!
@vaceypocklington1047
@vaceypocklington1047 Год назад
What an amazing review !! 5* no gimmicks just what you want to know ! Many thanks
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Год назад
That's very kind Thank you Vacey 🙏😊
@spyrosspyrou3428
@spyrosspyrou3428 Год назад
Great video straight forward to the point. Possibly should add few shots of extras and features to emphasise and support the description given.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Год назад
Thanks Spyros, appreciate the feedback. Next time I will add more b roll of the features we are discussing 👍. Thanks 😊
@fredensminde
@fredensminde 2 года назад
This was brilliant. Very informative. Thanks to both of you👍
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
Thanks Soren for your kind words. Certainly lucky to have Andy on to share his experience.
@fredensminde
@fredensminde 2 года назад
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Best review i have seen of the GSA so far ( i have seen a LOT ). I have been looking at that bike ( exact same specs ) most of the year. Here, the price is around EUR 54.000,- So it takes a bit of self-convincing🧐
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
Awww man, that's great to hear. I put a lot of work into this small channel and to get feedback like that really makes it all worth it. Andy will be pleased too. Where are you that a GSA costs €54.000? Can you import one?
@AndyRhodes
@AndyRhodes 2 года назад
Thanks! I’ll throw a wild guess and say Denmark?
@fredensminde
@fredensminde 2 года назад
@@AndyRhodes That´s right. 25% VAT, 150% registration tax and only one dealer🙄
@707sid
@707sid 2 года назад
Great video
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
Thanks Sid, appreciate it 🙏
@thomasbrauner5463
@thomasbrauner5463 2 года назад
So funny 😂 I just ordered a new GSA last week with almost the exact specs, for the same reasons you were telling 🥳 Except I ordered the upper option with different mirrors and caps. And to be totally equal, I ordered the better wind protection for screen (with stabelizer) and handguards. So, well chosen Sir 🤛
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
Hi Thomas, thank you for your comment. All I can say to this is 'Great minds think alike' haha. I wish you all the best with your amazing new bike. Ride safe.
@thomasbrauner5463
@thomasbrauner5463 2 года назад
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Thank you. Always a pleasure. 🤛
@AndyRhodes
@AndyRhodes 2 года назад
Great to hear it! Love to hear how you do with the higher screen. I may change out the screen for a touring one if I get to try it and it makes a difference.
@thomasbrauner5463
@thomasbrauner5463 2 года назад
@@AndyRhodes As soon as my bike arrive (3 weeks) the first thing I will test is the „Marathon“ screen from Wunderlich. Its not about the difference, more if it is for better. I will report 🙋
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
@@thomasbrauner5463 Thank you, that would be super useful
@alobosk
@alobosk Год назад
I just got my GSA this afternoon. After committing to spend about 22K dlls (great deal on it!) on a fairly well equipped bike (missed the ESA and adaptive lights), I needed reassurance. Hearing what others say helps me feel better about the decision I made. I got "the cradle" for some old Samsung S10 phone I had laying around, (I'll never mount my own daily phone on a bike after three broken OIS on my phones lenses) and the wireless charging, the app with the controls on my thumb, and pretty neat options like finding food and gas either on route, or at destination with a couple of thumb pushes as I'm riding, feels like I don't care about Apple CarPlay anymore! It feels really elegant jumping from controlling the bike display to the second screen (the phone), like in some Tesla or Boeing airplane.. I don't know, but coming from a barebones (no TFT) F850GS from 2019 feels like night and day. The F850GS feels like a tall bike that will fall helplessly if you don't keep it real-straight. The 1250GSA feels like a scooter when you tilt it for such a low gravity center. Unbelievable. And for southern California, normal cruise control (unlike the RT with its fancy adaptive one) is just great. I used to feel strain in my right hand after keeping the throttle open for five minutes, and instead of juggling finger and palm grasps to escape pain, having a lever that keeps the speed is a godsend.
@123rhafe
@123rhafe Год назад
I just got one without ESA too. I think that will prove to be a mistake when it comes time to sell it.
@jandone100
@jandone100 Год назад
Hi, thanks for the very informative video. Does GSA from 2022 have any enhancements worth over let's say 2019 / 2020 / 2021?
@BryanDoesCinema
@BryanDoesCinema Год назад
I'm glad you mentioned the heated seats and sticking for the black package. I found that so troubling. BMW can do better. I think Corbin makes a much more comfortable heated seat... but then you'd have to live with a Corbin on an Adv bike.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Год назад
There's been conflicting info on this, some have said the Rally colour option does permit it and some say it doesnt...
@johnmacdonald1878
@johnmacdonald1878 3 месяца назад
These bikes cost a fortune. I cant afford to by a new one and risk dropping it in the dirt. Even the regular GS is huge. I can't push it up even a slight incline. I can just pick it up by myself off-road. I bought a used 1200 GS rigged and ready for of road. For a bucket list ride. Nice but half the price. Not so worried about dropping it. Serviced it, Dunlop Trailmax Misions on it. And set of on a 15000km trip up to The Arctic Ocean round Alaska and back. Still haven't managed to clean all the calcite of it. The bike had no issues. Despite well over 1000miles of mud, rocks, dirt, gravel and calcite. The Trailmax are still good. From the last gas near Dawson City It's 250 miles of dirt mud rocks and gravel to the next gas in Eagle Plains. My regular GS made it on its 20 liter tank. I took 19.5 to fill it. Then another 200 ish to Inuvik If you can point out a road anywhere in the UK or Western Europe where there is more than 250 miles from one gas station to the next. I'l eat my helmet. And admit you might need a GSA. Its one heck of a nice bike. you can go almost anywhere on in comfort. It has all the fancy features but I find I except for the heated grips and changing from road to enduro for of road I never used any them.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 3 месяца назад
I would consider a 650gs for a similar sort of adventure. 1250 is huge and too big for me, but an older lighter bmw adv bike would be my choice. 15000km is no small trip, super cool!
@johnmacdonald1878
@johnmacdonald1878 3 месяца назад
@@MindfulMotorcyclist I did see a quite a few KLR and the 750 or 800 GS. The smaller bikes were probably better on the off road sections. There was a lot of long highway miles just to get there. Where the big heavy bikes were probably the best. A mid size ADV would be a good choice.
@Cube-gi2je
@Cube-gi2je 2 года назад
Regarding heating on the rally version, you can order the same seat features also for the rally version, you can handle this with the dealer.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
Hi Cube, thanks for that, good to know both Triple Black and Rally can have the same seat features. Cheers
@AndyRhodes
@AndyRhodes 2 года назад
I couldn’t configure heated seat options online but I have found rally options with heated seats online. If the configuration does not allow it, it’s good to ask the dealer directly. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-60vkj60AeLA.html
@kiranshetty1919
@kiranshetty1919 2 года назад
Subscriber from India❤️
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
Hi Kiran, welcome and thanks for Subscribing. A trip to India is something I'd love to do! Thanks.
@kiranshetty1919
@kiranshetty1919 2 года назад
@@MindfulMotorcyclist You are most welcome 🙏🏻😊
@Amarnath2k2
@Amarnath2k2 Год назад
It's beast 😈...
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Год назад
At 260kg plus it certainly is!
@Dubhghaill
@Dubhghaill Год назад
Thank you for the great interview/review .................
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Год назад
Hi Jo, thanks for your comment. Very welcome I'm glad we talked some sense 😊
@NobIe117
@NobIe117 2 года назад
So the bike only has linked brakes when in road mode and not in dynamic mode for example?
@AndyRhodes
@AndyRhodes 2 года назад
I believe the only time they are unlinked is Enduro mode so you can slide the rear wheel in corners.
@feloniousmonk3049
@feloniousmonk3049 8 месяцев назад
Make absolutely sure you know how expensive all BMW motorcycle service is, especially the labor rates and price of fluids, filters, tire changes and all other parts, BEFORE you go and buy a BMW car or especially their motorcycles.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 8 месяцев назад
To be honest, I wouldn't buy a GS. Not because it's not a super motorcycle but it's too much money tied up in some metal and I don't need all that power, tech and complexity even before expensive servicing comes into it. Thanks 👍
@kevinbrennan2004
@kevinbrennan2004 2 года назад
When is too much, too much? I always judge a bike on "user ability". By that i mean, does it suit your overall life style, rider ability etc. Is it something you live with every day, of do you have to put it away, till you're in holiday mode, and ride something more practical for your every day needs. I guess that's the question we all have to ask ourselves aye?
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
Hi Kevin, thanks for the comment. I agree here, two bikes which I would say are outside my 'comfortable' as in just hop on an ride user ability are 1) big ADV bikes over 230kg and 2) 1000cc sports bikes. I'm happy to ride smaller and lighter bikes, just as much fun!
@fishyweasel
@fishyweasel 9 месяцев назад
I'm a beginner bike rider, just recently passed bike test. I'm planning on doing a lot of touring, hence the reason for this bike. I'm quite a big guy, so do you think this would be biting off more than I can chew for a relative newbie? Also the fact that this has so many safety features also draws me to this bike . What do you think ?
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 9 месяцев назад
Well firstly congratulations, you are now in a fairly elite club as the majority cannot ride motorcycles. I personally wouldn't have a GS 1250 as my friend Andy is very very strong and he finds it difficult to move around on rough terrain. Middleweight adventure tourers are very popular too... think of the Yamaha Tenere or Tracer, Suzuki 800DE (really new bike), Honda Transalp. Depends also if youre going to spend most of your time on or off road. Typically 21inch front wheel is for those who go on the rough a little bit more.... 19 inch for road focused
@fishyweasel
@fishyweasel 9 месяцев назад
@@MindfulMotorcyclist most of my time doing long road journeys
@johnmacdonald1878
@johnmacdonald1878 3 месяца назад
As a new rider. If you want to get comfortable riding MC do not by one of these as your first bike. Lots of these bikes can be found a few years old with little or no mileage. People don't ride bikes if they are not comfortable riding them. No point point in buying a bike which you do not feel comfortable riding. Get a midsize bike, lots of good popular options. At reasonable price and good resale value. Get some miles, Do a lot practice. Next season if you want one of these. The regular GS is the better option in my opinion.
@SticksAandstonesBozo
@SticksAandstonesBozo 2 года назад
Yep. Seat options once you go rally is ridiculous. And no the dealer can’t do anything about it. Other than you eating lots of money to buy things twice basically.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
Such a shame, this is one of these reasons not to go Rally. Thanks for your comment bike life 👍
@SticksAandstonesBozo
@SticksAandstonesBozo 2 года назад
@@MindfulMotorcyclist yeah anyone can see what I’m saying or what he was saying. If you choose rally it will essentially remove any and all other things you add. You have to go rally then buy every thing after. But especially when it comes to the seat you can’t change anything once you go rally. The solution is to do the factory low suspension with the low seat and then add all the rally options without picking the full rally package. Which will get you 90% of the way there
@buyaccident
@buyaccident 2 года назад
riding comparison between gs and ds?
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
Hi Buy accident, I didn't actually ride his bike as we ran out of time. The GS would comprehensively outperform my bike '500DSX' in every category except perhaps price. This video is perhaps aimed at potential GS buyers and my bike is just there to make the shot look more interesting 😎
@buyaccident
@buyaccident 2 года назад
@@MindfulMotorcyclist yes, it was very good and in depth video. It would be good to know if say after 1h of driving each bike you could "feel" the $10.000 difference. All the electronic and gadgets aside, just pure driving, how different are they. That would be a good comparison video that i would love to see as well.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
@@buyaccident Agree, 100%. Unfortunately, there was only limited time for this video as we had to head into Reims to meet other friends. Andy is based in Germany and I am based in the UK. In between we were also dodging the rain. That said, the Voge as specified (with hard aluminium luggage) is £5,999 and the BMW is £21,485. Is it better, sure but is it over 4x better. That is more up for debate.
@AndyRhodes
@AndyRhodes 2 года назад
I would say one advantage of the DS is that it is significantly lighter. You can actually manoeuvre the bike on tricky off road sections. Of course, it’s best to compare the DS with the smaller BMW GS bikes.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
@@AndyRhodes Do you think the GS310? or perhaps the 750? The DS sits right in the middle with it's
@jeanjacques9980
@jeanjacques9980 2 года назад
It is definitely not an investment, as soon as you roll it out of the dealership you have lost a couple thousand pounds just in a few minutes. 8 or 9 years old the bike is worth half the initial price. Bike and car prices will return to the normal depreciation curve when the supply of chips is resolved, in fact second hand cars are reducing in value due to economic conditions (7.6.22), potential recession looming this year.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
Hi Jean, thanks for your comment. I agree that you lose a lot of value as soon as the motorcycle (or any vehicle) becomes '2nd hand'. The loss of value of the bike over 8-9 years is I guess the cost of having the modern bike with the power/performance/reliability etc over those years. If it was me looking for a bike at this level I would probably look at one 4-5 years old with low miles. However, the supply of chips won't be resolved anytime soon, TSMC are constructing another foundry but this is scheduled to come online in 2025. In the meantime you have everything from smartphones to smart appliances to Nvidia ramping up its 4000 series production. All this creates a lot of chip demand with a stable supply level and further to this auto manufacturers are low on the priority list. On the final point a recession is probably coming so I agree with that! Thanks for the comment.
@jeanjacques9980
@jeanjacques9980 2 года назад
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Just remember you can’t take it with you, enjoy life while you can, you never know what is around the corner, have fun with the new bike, be safe.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
@@jeanjacques9980 agreed!
@AndyRhodes
@AndyRhodes 2 года назад
So I was looking for a 1 year old GS before I bought this one. The price was only a 1-2k euro saving from a new one and it didn’t come with the new lights etc. so due to the supply chain issues due to covid, right now, it made sense to buy a new one and the price drop after 1 gear is not as substantial. Just my 2 cents
@hurt1704
@hurt1704 2 года назад
@@AndyRhodes I’m finding out the same myself. I guess if I could find a used one set up already and save on that cost, that would be nice.. but I’m leaning towards new as well
@rajabssenoga8528
@rajabssenoga8528 2 года назад
How much is it?.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
Hi Rajab, thanks for the question. Using the configuration tool on BMW own website its £15,780 as standard with no options and with the options shown here it's £21,485. Thanks.
@rajabssenoga8528
@rajabssenoga8528 2 года назад
@@MindfulMotorcyclist I have not understood by these words, standards and options clarify me boss.
@rajabssenoga8528
@rajabssenoga8528 2 года назад
@@MindfulMotorcyclist but do we have those bikes in Uganda?.
@AndyRhodes
@AndyRhodes 2 года назад
As far as I can tell, there is no BMW dealership there but probably a distributor. I suggest Google or contacting BMW directly.
@BryanDoesCinema
@BryanDoesCinema Год назад
$28K US here in the states, a pretty penny
@sebastianburrows373
@sebastianburrows373 2 года назад
Oh guys come on. If you didn’t speak English, there’d be no way of knowing that you weren’t actually discussing funeral packages.
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist 2 года назад
Thank you for the comment and the engagement on this content. It's all appreciated 👍
@stephenhoward1209
@stephenhoward1209 Год назад
Just a bit boring
@MindfulMotorcyclist
@MindfulMotorcyclist Год назад
He's been in Germany for 8 years, what do you expect man 😉 (only kidding Andy)
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