Conspiracy Theorist promises to concede, if I photograph the ISS ... So I did 

There isn't a shutter speed fast enough to capture those as they move. They are almost instantaneous.

😂😂😂

Funny! Very.

Top comment.

suprisingly, he admitted defeat.

I think it is funny that this flat earther stuff became a viral thing again after another guy released a certain "documentary".

@@Truth_Apologetics "top flat earthers" have exactly the same amount of evidence for their ideas and exactly the same amount of thinking put into their flat models as the "mediocre flat earthers" and "bottom flat earthers". Which is zero.

an actual argument from Fight The Flat Earth channel a few days ago : Flerf: show measurements of size of earth. FTFE: Here you are. Shows evidence. Flerf: I want measurements. FTFE: ok, here are actual measurements. shows actual measurements. flerf: those are written on paper. I want actual measurements. FTFE: wot ?? flerf: i dont want measurements on paper; i want actual measurements.

​@@Truth_Apologetics I am laughing at you

“It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” - Bill Murray

Thanks Jerry, what a great surprise to find you in my comments 😊

Please scratch test the space station.

Without the application, it would be incredubly difficult, but this website made it aparently so much easier. (Even if that is still quite difficult).

Sup Zack!

What space station? KAPPA

So true. As soon as I became as humble as possible after reading “How to Win Friends and Influence People” it changed my life. I can attribute all success I’ve had to that moment, not to mention I’ve learned so much since my mind has stayed open since then. People will respect someone soooo much more when they are willing to be wrong and own it. It’s a very hard lesson for people to learn and some people never do. If they can bring themselves to drop the ego though, they will see immediate results in life and go so much further. Imagine if all of humanity did this, we would be many times further in our research and knowledge if so.

It’s hard to win a argument with a intelligent person, but impossible to win with a stupid person

if you give anything to flat earthers they will say either its 'faked' or its 'government lies' ultimately its impossible to win an argument with them because they fail to accept the truth

I don't know why people keep spreading blurbs like this, people feel a sense of superiority to others who admitted they were wrong, not a sense of respect. That's my observation

@@techmedia1360 Yes, there are people who act like that. If you're around that crowd, get them out of your life, or if you work at an organization that has this mentality, then leave it. Anyone who can't respect someone else's authenticity and humbleness is just a POS themselves. We never get anywhere by always being criticized...and organizations that are filled with people who don't take any responsibility don't flourish. I've worked at both.

easy jock rider you have zero evidence for earth being a spinning ball

@@jrcather5196k let's say it was somehow not a globe, why the f would people want to lie about it's shape, I just want to understand that.

​@@jrcather5196 and you have zero evidence that its a pancake

@@robinspanier7017 plenty of evidence that you need a new map

@@ceostreams do some flipping research before you come at that broken record statement

So will I but thought I'd give him the chance to show his true colours

They never do. I wish they would stick to actual conspiracys. They make us look stupid.

He will just yell “photoshop!!”

​@@garyblake9665 This is how we are silenced. The silly bs is mixed with serious events. Everything is equally dumb "they" say. The murder of JFK is basically flat earth now. 😅 We have video evidence of him getting shot in the forhead, this is worth as much as a working flat earth model measured in conspiracy currency

Taking bets that pokie remains an ignorantly delusional pizza sheet.

These people seem unaware to the extreme and unable to process information if it is given to them. I think it is some kind of disability.

Flattards have become how they are because one or more of the FE priests has captured them by getting them to believe that they have been lied to all their lives, that "the Government" and all its agencies want to control their minds somehow, and that in order to escape this "control" they need to listen only to their priests. All efforts to educate them fail as they can't get past the irrational belief that they are, yet again, being lied to by "the Government", or by people who have bought the Government lies. If this sounds like yet another religious cult, run by priests whose control of their devotees' minds is strong, there is little or no difference. Dave can offer his information as neutrally and reasonably as he likes, but he will never penetrate the hard shell of resistance. Mind you, he might already know this, which means his comments and vids will be aimed at the fence sitters who may be tempted to dive into the rabbit holes that are flat Earth/Moon landing denial/911 denial/antivaxx, etc.

@@rogerwilco2yes. They’re, regrettably, flatarded.

I didn't notice you could see the dragon! That's awesome.

Sadly I'm not surprised. We have tons of people denying Homo Sapiens have two sexes. People will believe any damn fool thing they want to and dig in against any and all proof otherwise.

Yeah, holograms are so hard to employ, especially when you can create an app telling people when to look at it

@@PWEIcom 1) you can't project a hologram into empty space 2) holograms don't produce shadows (moron)

@@PWEIcom What about the thousands of other satellite's we track / observe or the observed re-entry of orbital vehicle's or the ISS amateur radio station that emanates from ISS anyone can link to , not forgetting complexity's of projecting holograms worldwide undetected

@@nounoufriend1442 don’t bother replying to the moron, some people won’t change no matter what you tell them.

No one needs launch a fake ISS sized object. The tracker app tracks some of the many ET ships currently in Earth's low orbit.

In theory, if the flat earthers were right, you wouldn’t *need* the ISS to do that. It would just be a question of having a powerful enough transmitting antenna. The fact that you can _only_ do it when the ISS is in range is pretty strong evidence that earth isn’t flat.

Yes, and I’ve seen countless schools getting a ham radio to let the kids actually TALK to the astronauts there. They even have their own callsign. It’s amazing

@@clebsgaming92 - It’s a great thing to have a crack at, one of the many awesome things that you can do with a radio licence.

​@@clebsgaming92 woah that sounds insanely cool. "Honey, how was your day at school?" "Mom, I talked to the astronauts on the ISS!" I have never done anything as cool, let alone at school... If only.

I don't know much about Ham radios. You can reach to the ISS when it's 240 miles up? How far on land can you reach out with that same band? Do you just talk to the astronauts or do they relay the signal out farther. So the ISS how far can you reach with that relay?

Right. As if we didn't do extensive improvement work on photos in darkrooms back in the day. Of course they've never used Photosohop or a darkroom.

@@chriswhitehouse9137 I mean...Apollo Detectives do point out Dave is a fan of "moon photographs" and their extensive photoshopping back in the day.

​@@TheCaptainSlappysee you know nothing about photography. If you don't do post processing you're just fucking around, and that isn't the point when you have nice camera equipment.

Yes but he also explained exactly what he was doing and why. A very good, simple explanation in my opinion.

They don’t know what photoshop is. “You used a computer thing” seems a more plausible reaction.

It's easy for flat earthers to *_say_* it. They probably thought that Dave wouldn't put in the time or effort to _actually do_ it though because flat earthers _almost_ never accept evidence that runs counter to their belief. I think there are only two flat earthers that have done so publicly. Ranty indicates that his change of position was due to the evidence presented being geographically local so he could confirm it for himself. I don't know the story for the other one. If there are other former flat earthers that have changed their minds, they have do so by silently disappearing.

Yeah this is high quality content for sure

@@Tsudico Interesting, what geographically local evidence was that exactly?

@@fredoverflow I think, but could be mistaken, that it was a picture of Blackpool tower with the terrain behind it. Ranty knew there was a town on the shore that should have appeared across the water at the base of the mountains but the town was obviously not in the image. I think Ranty goes over it in detail in one of his earlier videos on his debunking channel, Auditing the Absurd. If it isn't there, it may be among Conspiracy Catz videos because it was Conspiracy Catz who walked Ranty through the image and why it shows the Earth isn't flat.

believing anything a flat earther says is not advisable

Ham operator here; can confirm - you can use even a handheld radio to receive SSTV signals sent from the ISS and then decode them into still images.

They would just say the radio stations are in on it and that they fake a return signal. There’s no proving anything to these people. You could send Pokie to the ISS and make him a believer, but everyone who thinks the same as him would write him off as a paid shill lying about his experience with fake video. A true exercise in futility.

And if you had a Christmas dinner worth of hams spaced far enough apart and working together you could triangulate its position and track its movement. Of course, the flat Earth thing was disproven thousands of years ago by the ancient Greeks by putting two sticks in the sand at the tide line at the same time on the same day but some types are slow to catch on to easily reproducible experiments. I really just came here for the Christmas Hams.

The problem with debating conspiracy theories is that the theorists can make up explanations for your evidence as they go, and they don't even care if the explanations are mutually inconsistent and impossible. It's turtles all the way down, and the turtles are made of crazy.

@@madisonlink7141you sound vaccinated

Not to mention teaching them things they should've learned in school too.

@@AVI-lh6rm not to mention that all this effort is wasted, as they do not care about facts and reason, they just want to believe and for those beliefs to make them somehow "special". They're just sad primitive little nobodies who crave for attention, so we should not give them what they want. We must mock them instead and make them feel ostracised and hated.

@@AVI-lh6rm they probably have but then where going in this rabbit hole of crazy People that pushing this conspiracy´s.

Exactly. Don't even bother. If they want us to hold their hand to educate them on basic obvious things, then pay us.

The entertainment comes from watching flerfers struggle to deny the undeniable.

in the flat earth paradigm, truth is determined entirely by how loud you shout. Since that is how they all behave, they expect everyone else to do exactly the same. they cannot comprehend that there exists a process by which you can collect evidence about ... anything.

@@victorfinberg8595 It was NEVER about the flat Earth, they couldn't care less. It's about their ego, and pissing against the wind to be a "rebel" without a good cause

I mean, if he's sincere in his beliefs, he might expect a photographer to be unable to take a photograph of a thing that doesn't exist. And I don't know what he gets out of claiming to believe this if he doesn't actually believe it. What does amaze me is that he was willing to, before the photo was taken, agree that Dave McKeegan is trustworthy enough that he wouldn't accuse Dave of making fake photos if Dave showed him photos of the ISS that Dave says he, himself, took.

probably more then a dot

@@segevstormlord3713 the proof is in the pudding. don't bet on any flat earther being honest

All true, and unfortunately irrelevant for flattards. They all refuse to actually do science. Whenever they do try science and the result contradicts their theories, they'll claim some fault in their setup. Flattards are the original village idiots. You could send them to space and they'd still claim it's all fake.

Flerfers love first hand experience... Unless it's actual scientific fact. At that point they reject their own senses.

Obviously everyone that did this experiment are argonian cia lizards, who are being paid to deceive you

@@xmlthegreat 15 degrees per hour... must be some cosmic radiation....

To be fair it is not cheap but it is completely repeatable.

Meeting up with a flat earther at night on a dark airfield doesn't sound sketchy at all lol. Glad you're able to tell the story

I wonder what was in his brain. Why wouldn't you be able to make a photograph of something that is obviously visible and does not even move fast. I mean it is easier to photo the Moon than a flying plane.

I don't understand his concern. If he can see it in the sky, why wouldn't you be able to photograph it?

What type of question is that? Wtf lol. Am I missing something?

@@randomviewer3494 i doubt they are dangerous people.

I think the hardest part for them is having to admit to themselves they've been stupid and gullible....hard thing to do.

@@alvin2021 Ya, especially the ones that devote their lives to it, with a flat Earth youtube channel. Admitting the ISS is real, means all of what they were pushing for years was 🐄💩.

I agree that a significant number of "flat earthers" don't actually believe it is flat, but crave the attention their claims get like the 5th grader who's constantly acting up in class.

I would love to take them on a spaceship. So I can kick them out of the airlock.

It doesn't help that the BBC(?) actually did just that on a "reality show" years ago...

And even then they'd even say its still fake through all that, and if they went up into space on their own they'd go like "Space isn't real Ill open his airlock and-" dead. Cause thats how these people think, atleast one i know.

@@bluenightfury4365 yes you needed a third camera to film the other two and then have a 4th and so on and so on... how many you think pokie needs to be convinced?

@@EattheApple666 Sorry son, its cameras all the way down. =P

​@@gbprime2353 Beat me to it.😅

With 3D CGI, you can render the image from any point once you've made the scene (takes time to render tho)

Sadly, true.

Because we’re not. Everything that was supposed to be a “conspiracy theory” turned out to be true. It’s your willingness to just put the popular attitude on something and call it facts without doing any real research of your own. It’s called a “hive mind” I’m sitting here right now watching a movie called “Life” it’s about an alien microbe aboard the ISS. Do you really think that this man actually debunked anything because if I wasn’t aware of the facts like you, I’d think that “Jake Gyllenhaal” was aboard the ISS flying around in outer space. I’m called crazy because I’m the guy running in the opposite direction of all the ones heading straight off a cliff.

It depends. I once came across Moon landing conspiracy. It seemed believable. But then I met three arguments for Moon landing is real: (1) USSR captured the transmission from the Moon, not Hollywood (in the midst of the Cold War they would not support the US claims would those be fake). (2) Moon stones (shippedto the USSR) have multiple holes from micrometheoriths. This is hard to fake. (3) There are reflectors on the Moon placed by Apollo missions. Astronomers all over the world use those to measure the distance to the Moon. Just go to a department of Astronomy during the visitor day: they can show it working. So, the no landing conspiracy was busted.

@@Panzerfaust9161😂 all conspiracy theories are now true?

Neither will a crazy conspiracy DENIER!!!!!!! You gladly surrendered you critical thinking, and now you are mindless automatons who are helpless to defend yourself against those who CONSPIRE AGAINST YOU because you'll never see it coming!!!! Now you don't have the capacity to see impending dangers such as oncoming traffic! GOOD LUCK!!!!!

If that was the case, he wouldn’t have needed to do the Squarespace ad🤣

@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 He didn't "need" to do it. It's there for camouflage! 😁

@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Nah, obviously it's just there to decieve you XD Not actualy FE btw

Wait square space... Flat square...flat earth.... He admitted it!!! *grabs tin foil hat and runs to tell the fe community*

Clever of NASA to launder their money through SquareSpace!

you can get apps that notify you when it is going to be overhead - it is easily seen as you say esp at night

Yep, our local news station told us when to look up; I did. Visible to the naked eye.

Yeah, a few years ago, my wife & I were out walking and we noticed a fast-moving light and wondered out loud what it was. A neighbor walking behind us informed us that it was ISS--he had been tracking it for a while online and that day was an ideal day to see it for our location. It was a nice "ya had to be there" moment.

I see it pretty regularly by random chance when taking a walk at night. Some nights it's not visible at all and some it's visible multiple times

i have seen the ISS in person too and i always just thought of it as a flying football field. Mostly because they are around the same size and it just shows how massive it just is. I don't know how anyone could even dought it's existance.

Yea its the small and fast dot moving accross the morning sky

Yh ive seen it randomly one day and searched where it was at that time and realised I saw the iss with my naked eye 😂 these people that claim everything is fake is funny

This doesn't prove anything.

​@@jaredloveys9617considering I try to keep a eye out for it every time I'm out (and a friend made a habit of using a star app when I point out planets) yeah you can see it alot Strangest experience was a UFO i thought was the space station My friend thought it was a plane but their was no green or red lights And then it started moving in different directions sometimes erratically Wish I had my binoculars It was also up their longer then a drone .... that experience was pretty surreal And before people forget .... UFO Unidentified flying object .... we had no clue what it was

Wow you can see something that size from how many miles away with your naked eye again? hahahahahhahahhahhahhahahhaaa fuuuuuuunnny

Yeah, I've seen similar things happen before. He'll just declare it fake. I hope I'm wrong, but I have little faith.

Of course he will. He will cry “fake” again.

Mobile YT shows only one comment under the video unless you open the comments. And this was the one shown - perfect placement 😄 Because we all know it will be proven right.

​@ivanpetrov5255 yeah I've never understood why mobile YT does that. And there's the @user profile names you see sometimes

In essence, he did, he has refused to say that the ISS is actually up there orbiting the earth. Here I was, really praying for a redemption arc. I'll never understand people who must always think one way even in the face of new evidence.

His "method" seems very "scientific". Yes! I recall reading about this approach previously. 🤔

pokie believes him, but in the end he's too coward to admit that he is wrong (or I should say lost?).

​@@davidsipos8207wth is this supposed to mean

​@@udinsalam4751He admitted that the ISS exists (then immediately snuggled into claims that he used his superior intellect to trick Dave into doing the video--but let him save face if he's willing to concede his original point)

We didn't evolve from monkeys on a non consistent cartoon ball seeing the same stars and constellations since the dawn of man where sea level is called sea level for a reason where the north star is stationary. Not including the false equation for curvature eight inches per mile squared doesn't fit into the 24901 mile circumference. Nobody believes in make believe, water pools, Hollywood and cgi. Freemasonry and secret societies exist in every nation. The mental illness is from people like you that can't comprehend what is real from made up Hollywood propaganda to slave the minds of their slaves to keep them enslaved. The photo is upside down to make fun of the ridiculous ball having land mass thats supposed to upside down in real-time. Which in reality it doesn't exist because earth is a flat plane not a cartoon ball. The body of water doesn't have any land masses in it because it's a body of water. Representing that water is level. Nothing can ever change that. You stand on the earth which is flat. Like playing a video game. A flat open world with terrain. Similar to the flat world we are currently in. There are no Sattelites, that's why they keep building cell phone towers and radio towers. GPS works by the triangulation of three cell phone towers bouncing a signal from the source revealing its location, similar to sonar. Nobody will ever find live feed of any "Sattelites" showing my neighborhood in real-time. Google earth is computer generated until you zoom in then it's aerial photos taken by airplane, not sattelites. Television, cellphones, internet signals work with the same radio/ cell towers grid hooked up to a landline communication cables that also hook under the ocean to the other countries keeping us all connected called the Trans Atlantic communication cables paid for by at&t. This is all documented for the public to see. I'm not the bafoon here. I think the guy who believes he evolved from a 🐒 here has a low iq, similar to someone who has down syndrome. This Karman line you ignorantly speak of is called the horizon and no matter how high you ascend, the horizon will always remain level with your eye level. Limiting the amount of distance you can see from your perspective. Once again you can't see the Antarctica wall, something that's thousands of miles away to be visible at your perspective. Perspective is limited, you can't see forever. I'm sorry I had to explain that to you. Ever play a video game? The world's flat, how's come they can't see forever in the flat game world? 🤔 All Sattelite photos except for the cgi film room ones are from high aerial footage by airplanes, even the spy planes. Just like the Cuban missile crisis the United States flew over Cuba with spy planes to take pictures at a high altitude of military objects. Which the same photos today science would call them Sattelites footage, what a joke. The 4th photo with Polaris explains that Polaris doesn't move, hence the name north star. It doesn't move and never will. Which is pretty much impossible through a vast endless space vacuum seeing the same stars more than one time is very unlikely. When you have perfect timing and cycles. That's way to perfect to even think of mental retardation. Nothing from "space" moves because there is no space. This is it. Well other realms. By Norse mythology there are 9 realms. Just no space. There is no equator. Unless you think of the bullseye 🎯 flat earth map. Then if you follow the equator, anything from the north/ center is south. Correct? Correct. Of course once again vision is limited by perspective so you are not going to see north star from a great distance just like a tall sky scraper from New York when leaving out to see. Everything dissappear from distance. I found these factors by my own brain. Nobody woke me up to flat earth, in fact I was the guy pushing it since 2014 through random fb comments like I'm doing now. I have done plenty of so called experiments and it's all common sense. The math even disproves the globe model pushed by the ones who gave us the math. How about that. You are talking out of ignorance because you don't know a damn thing. Your 21 years old. Wow fresh out of public school system. Even I knew better at 21 than you. I wouldn't brag about being a monkey evolved indoctrinated idiot. I would be embarrassed. "Why haven't I tested experments". Here's one for you a bonfire lights up the surrounding area, just like the sun does when it moves. Also when you put a camera on the ground and walk away from it. Your legs dissappear first before the top half of your body. Similar to the sun "setting". By your ignorance you have done not one ounce of research into your own cartoon model. There is nothing false about flat earth. You didn't even respond to what I have said in the main paragraph and going to say false. You can't disprove a damn thing I said. The only shape and texture that's on flat earth is the terrain that's on it. Nobody knows how much flat earth weighs and we do know the deepest hole ever dug was from Russia and that's only 7 miles. So Nasa already assumed that there I the inner core, outer core and mantle which is hilarious. No flat earth has been around and will always be around. This globe lie started 200 years ago.

That reminds me of my youth. I was not quite as young as 6 though. At 5 yo I wondered what if Earth were a flat rectangle like the world atlas pulled down over the chalkboard when in kindie. And IF that were the case, then how come I could not see the nearby city if Earth were flat. Yea I had also seen a globe of Earth, but I was young and fanciful and wondered what if the stories of Columbus were true and he was trying to prove you would not fall off. So I did lots of observations, starting with the Sun, tracking it etc. And tons of other observations, some simple experiments and tons more observations. After several years, think I was around 8, I came to realization that no matter how hard I tried or how far up a tree I could get, I would never see the nearby city from my house because Earth was not a flat rectangle. Because Earth was clearly a sphere. I had seen the evidence, lots of it. Again yes I sort of already knew or at least been told this, but as I said I was young with a vivid imagination. I had even traced the analemma, although at that age I had no clue what it was called or precisely why. Was not until later in middle school that I learned that.

Nice, but moon phases aren't "the shadow of the Earth on the moon"; that would be an eclipse. It's amazing how many people still think this.

It's a shame you didn't share your opinions about Russia in 57 so they could put you behind bars where you belong.

@@ReValveiT_01 Ha ha ha

Lack of observance of the physical world seems to be a first world problem that FE and other space deniers have.

Sure

Great story, so lucky. But you would need something far more subtantial to photograph the ISS than a phone camera though.

the large industry of making flat earth hit pieces is totally necessary because they are stupid

bro what? @@YellHallelujahILY

​​@@mikewilson8513 i saw the two solar pannel arrays on either side of it with my Celestron 90az telescope with a cellphone camera attatched that i got for 100 or so bucks! With enough practice tracking it and the right shutter speed jts not too hard to do

Keep looking. I saw something crazy. What we look at every day , is not what you think

@@nicolec7290 @nicolec7290 Even before the online FE craze was a thing, I was interested in celestial navigation while sailing my boat 10,000 miles around the top of Australia. Every night I watched the stars and moon for almost a year. Never once was there any indication the earth was anything other than a globe. It is precisely as you would think.

Agreed, not worth wasting your time trying to educate people who can't be taught.

Flat Earth conspiracies peaked in 2018

@@BeardofBeesPool Yeah, now it's lizard people..... lol That comet can't hit soon enough! lol

Cheers Creaky, how's my favourite Welshman?

@@DaveMcKeegan Meh?!? Been better, been worse!!

@@CreakyBlinder yeah, life is no chocolate! (althought sometimes it does have the same color ;) )

@@CreakyBlinder Sorry to hear that bud, still it could be worse ... You could be a flerf 😉

​@@CreakyBlinderi am still waiting on your first evidence in stead of butt smacks😂

@maddybelo Clicked on this video randomly and now I'm super glad I got to read this comment!

If you are below it's orbital inclination in latitude, which is 51.6 degrees at present, it is guaranteed to pass within at most 5.625 degrees of longitude from you. That is a worst case scenario of passing 300 miles east of you, then 300 miles west of you, at the equator. It's worst case distance from you will shrink as you more in latitude away from the equator. Most days it will be something like 200 close 400 far approach though, rather than perfectly bracketing you, and you very likely could see it above the horizon every day. Remember, it's 250 miles up, so even the worst case 300 is still well within your horizon, and it will only be 390 miles away from you. It's just a question of can you see through that much atmosphere, and is it lit right for whatever timing it had for you that 24 hour period.

@@ASDeckard Oh, yes, of course. Definitely not hard to spot the ISS in general. I think I was just shocked that I had managed to see it transit between the planets. This was during the ‘Great Conjunction’ of December 2020. Saturn and Jupiter were only a fifth of the moon’s diameter apart when I was looking, and the fact that the ISS had transited between them (out of the whole night sky and without planning) was just sheer luck. If someone had planned to witness this, they most likely would have had to travel somewhere fairly close to my location. Always fun to see the ISS either way, and give the astronauts a wave, haha.

That’s pretty Kool! Good for you 😊

We didn't evolve from monkeys on a non consistent cartoon ball seeing the same stars and constellations since the dawn of man where sea level is called sea level for a reason where the north star is stationary. Not including the false equation for curvature eight inches per mile squared doesn't fit into the 24901 mile circumference. Nobody believes in make believe, water pools, Hollywood and cgi. Freemasonry and secret societies exist in every nation. The mental illness is from people like you that can't comprehend what is real from made up Hollywood propaganda to slave the minds of their slaves to keep them enslaved. The photo is upside down to make fun of the ridiculous ball having land mass thats supposed to upside down in real-time. Which in reality it doesn't exist because earth is a flat plane not a cartoon ball. The body of water doesn't have any land masses in it because it's a body of water. Representing that water is level. Nothing can ever change that. You stand on the earth which is flat. Like playing a video game. A flat open world with terrain. Similar to the flat world we are currently in. There are no Sattelites, that's why they keep building cell phone towers and radio towers. GPS works by the triangulation of three cell phone towers bouncing a signal from the source revealing its location, similar to sonar. Nobody will ever find live feed of any "Sattelites" showing my neighborhood in real-time. Google earth is computer generated until you zoom in then it's aerial photos taken by airplane, not sattelites. Television, cellphones, internet signals work with the same radio/ cell towers grid hooked up to a landline communication cables that also hook under the ocean to the other countries keeping us all connected called the Trans Atlantic communication cables paid for by at&t. This is all documented for the public to see. I'm not the bafoon here. I think the guy who believes he evolved from a 🐒 here has a low iq, similar to someone who has down syndrome. This Karman line you ignorantly speak of is called the horizon and no matter how high you ascend, the horizon will always remain level with your eye level. Limiting the amount of distance you can see from your perspective. Once again you can't see the Antarctica wall, something that's thousands of miles away to be visible at your perspective. Perspective is limited, you can't see forever. I'm sorry I had to explain that to you. Ever play a video game? The world's flat, how's come they can't see forever in the flat game world? 🤔 All Sattelite photos except for the cgi film room ones are from high aerial footage by airplanes, even the spy planes. Just like the Cuban missile crisis the United States flew over Cuba with spy planes to take pictures at a high altitude of military objects. Which the same photos today science would call them Sattelites footage, what a joke. The 4th photo with Polaris explains that Polaris doesn't move, hence the name north star. It doesn't move and never will. Which is pretty much impossible through a vast endless space vacuum seeing the same stars more than one time is very unlikely. When you have perfect timing and cycles. That's way to perfect to even think of mental retardation. Nothing from "space" moves because there is no space. This is it. Well other realms. By Norse mythology there are 9 realms. Just no space. There is no equator. Unless you think of the bullseye 🎯 flat earth map. Then if you follow the equator, anything from the north/ center is south. Correct? Correct. Of course once again vision is limited by perspective so you are not going to see north star from a great distance just like a tall sky scraper from New York when leaving out to see. Everything dissappear from distance. I found these factors by my own brain. Nobody woke me up to flat earth, in fact I was the guy pushing it since 2014 through random fb comments like I'm doing now. I have done plenty of so called experiments and it's all common sense. The math even disproves the globe model pushed by the ones who gave us the math. How about that. You are talking out of ignorance because you don't know a damn thing. Your 21 years old. Wow fresh out of public school system. Even I knew better at 21 than you. I wouldn't brag about being a monkey evolved indoctrinated idiot. I would be embarrassed. "Why haven't I tested experments". Here's one for you a bonfire lights up the surrounding area, just like the sun does when it moves. Also when you put a camera on the ground and walk away from it. Your legs dissappear first before the top half of your body. Similar to the sun "setting". By your ignorance you have done not one ounce of research into your own cartoon model. There is nothing false about flat earth. You didn't even respond to what I have said in the main paragraph and going to say false. You can't disprove a damn thing I said. The only shape and texture that's on flat earth is the terrain that's on it. Nobody knows how much flat earth weighs and we do know the deepest hole ever dug was from Russia and that's only 7 miles. So Nasa already assumed that there I the inner core, outer core and mantle which is hilarious. No flat earth has been around and will always be around. This globe lie started 200 years ago.

If they knew how to evaluate data, they wouldn’t be a CTer.

Unfortunately, it is estimated that 11% of the worlds people have schizophrenia, much of it untreated Combine that with the safety and anonymity of utube, and you have explained much of the FE phenom. (Whereas these used to stand on streetcorners and yell at the moon) Also, there is the related issue of drug use to be considered

Even the poorest conspiracy theorist is closer to the truth than you sir even if they can sometimes overshoot. The world is a mess and controlled governments are in charge pretending to be looking after your interests. If you still think they are just doing a bad job it doesn't say good things about you as an adult at this stage. Your blather is cringeworthy to read for those in the know.

That's awesome👍

There must be many people like you that have worked on various components for nasa over the decades. Then you have thousands more that work at the agency with planning and operating all the different missions. It is so insulting to you and the others to dismiss and challenge your integrity. It makes me angry. I’m sure there are a number of reasons why wackos believe in these conspiracy’s. I really don’t care what they believe, but when they accuse hard working people of being dishonest, that is a whole other thing.

My dad is an industrial radiographer. He x-rayed a few of the parts manufactured for the ISS

I guess you do make parts that go to space unlike most of us!

Wow. I wonder what the odds of that happening just at random are.

@@my3dviews You might say the odds are... astronomical.

Those darned space agencies, putting stuff in orbit just to mess with your photos...

@@wizardsuth Even though that was sarcasm, there is some truth to that statement. There is so many satellites in LEO now that astronomers are complaining that it is hard to do a long exposure without getting a streak across the photo from a satellite.

​@Fred the 47th It is already, but getting worse with every launch. Some with over 50 satellites at once.

Indeed.

Pointing a camera at the sky is an achievement 🤣

I mean, I've seen the ISS twice with my naked eye. Not that much of a feat.

@@wilfred-wils literal smoothbrain

​@@ThaBeatConductordid you miss the entire segment of the video where he explained exactly why getting a photo is a lot harder than just spotting it by eye?

I'd absolutely go for that! Then when they reject that it'll be "promises to concede if I put them in the ISS" 😂

​@@DaveMcKeegan We need Mr Beast for that. 😂

Didn't some of them claim Globebusters were fake flerfs after the comedy movie Behind the curve? (RIP and Thanks, Bob)

Yes sadly there will be nothing to change his mind. It is his religion

@Ivan Petrov so far I've seen globebusters, Dirth, flatzoid are all shills according to them

I forget his name but FTFE had a guy on who conceded and rejected flat earth. Now he has a great RU-vid channel where he fishes dirt on flat earthers. It’s great

i agree, as soon as dave said he started to overlap the frames to clear up the noise i thought thats it, their gonna say its fake

Lets remember the late Bob as a guy who never admitted anything until he died.

@@stevepopplewell6448 I think Ranty decided it wasn't flat. Not sure if he conceded it is a globe, but at least he left the flat earth train.

yep, pokie will just move the goal post, that's what people who think they know everything do each time you prove them wrong.

I didn't actually know this was a photography channel until I checked the history. I just thought it was a flat earth debunking channel!

Rabid hole more likely

Much of the FE hysteria is fuelled by abject ignorance of photography.

Flat Earthers have a disphoria, and believe things that are not true, as we see so much of lately.

I love it. Kinda like anti-vaxxers or America's Republican party, it is a great way to identify really dumb people without having to converse with them. They're advertising how dumb they are without anyone putting in the effort to find out.

It goes deeper than that. Not only is the Earth flat but the whole Universe is flat!

@@1pcfred I mean, the universe it technically flat since space doesn't curve onto itself and has no corners. Obviously the earth is very much a spheroid.

@@Lord_and_Savior_Gay_Jesus The universe has to be a 3D shape since we can observe numerous galaxies moving in different directions which requires a three dimensional space. Well, okay a four dimensional space.

@@Lord_and_Savior_Gay_Jesus how can you have a 3D object in a flat plane? It's all flat!

These people have no desire to learn or better understand anything. They only crave engagement that makes their delusional beliefs worth debating.

Only a simpleton thinks recording a weather module in earths none get out of atmosphere proves a ball LOL... now show us 8 inch squared curve that cant be found ... REAL PROOF ... how gullible are you people that all it takes for you to believe is a photo ...... yet you ignore all photos proving earth is flat ... photos in abundance of objects you can see that according to your fairy tale should be thousands of feet behind imaginary curvature.......

Agreed. We all knew this evidence wouldn't be accepted either way. At least he got an amazing photo out of the ''challenge''.

These conspiracy theories are not based on facts so dispelling them with facts is impossible. I’d interpret Pokies comments as ‘I do not think you’ve got what you think you have”. It was gracious of him to acknowledge that there was ‘no trickery’ just misinterpretation of the event.

@@briantomcollins He's really addressing normal folk, who like how he does things like this. That flattard dumbasses have trouble believing the results is of no great consequence to him. Sometimes I suspect that Dave is using the Socratic method of using a person to question the obvious, thus allowing him to address the objections, thereby educating folk who are not only interested in the topic, but also accept the findings.

Will do, I'm planning a future video addressing the claims the ISS externals are filmed underwater - I'll probably provide an update on Pokies response in that

​@Dave McKeegan If you ever get a comment from Pokie, I guess you can Pin it at the top.

Pokie accepted the footage and photo and subsequently the ISS as real...then said he didn't believe that there are people on it and we never went beyond low earth orbit.

@@dyamonde9555 Thanks for the update 🙂

@@dyamonde9555 Thats because he is only seeking attention, not evidence, like every single flat earther I have ever had a discussion with, they are all trolls.

It's the release part that gets tricky.

It's very common to see ISS fly-by by incident, it very bright and it can happen 3 times a day even and it sometimes travels for 2 minutes, but most people are unaware it's ISS, same as people don't know that brightest "stars" on sky are actually planets and they always say it's a "north star" ;p

@@1jotun136waiting for this joke lol, we’ll played

@@ShadowriverUByep, I’ve explained Venus not being the North Star on a few occasions

Yeah airplanes do fly. We didn't evolve from monkeys on a non consistent cartoon ball seeing the same stars and constellations since the dawn of man where sea level is called sea level for a reason where the north star is stationary. Not including the false equation for curvature eight inches per mile squared doesn't fit into the 24901 mile circumference. Nobody believes in make believe, water pools, Hollywood and cgi. Freemasonry and secret societies exist in every nation. The mental illness is from people like you that can't comprehend what is real from made up Hollywood propaganda to slave the minds of their slaves to keep them enslaved. The photo is upside down to make fun of the ridiculous ball having land mass thats supposed to upside down in real-time. Which in reality it doesn't exist because earth is a flat plane not a cartoon ball. The body of water doesn't have any land masses in it because it's a body of water. Representing that water is level. Nothing can ever change that. You stand on the earth which is flat. Like playing a video game. A flat open world with terrain. Similar to the flat world we are currently in. There are no Sattelites, that's why they keep building cell phone towers and radio towers. GPS works by the triangulation of three cell phone towers bouncing a signal from the source revealing its location, similar to sonar. Nobody will ever find live feed of any "Sattelites" showing my neighborhood in real-time. Google earth is computer generated until you zoom in then it's aerial photos taken by airplane, not sattelites. Television, cellphones, internet signals work with the same radio/ cell towers grid hooked up to a landline communication cables that also hook under the ocean to the other countries keeping us all connected called the Trans Atlantic communication cables paid for by at&t. This is all documented for the public to see. I'm not the bafoon here. I think the guy who believes he evolved from a 🐒 here has a low iq, similar to someone who has down syndrome. This Karman line you ignorantly speak of is called the horizon and no matter how high you ascend, the horizon will always remain level with your eye level. Limiting the amount of distance you can see from your perspective. Once again you can't see the Antarctica wall, something that's thousands of miles away to be visible at your perspective. Perspective is limited, you can't see forever. I'm sorry I had to explain that to you. Ever play a video game? The world's flat, how's come they can't see forever in the flat game world? 🤔 All Sattelite photos except for the cgi film room ones are from high aerial footage by airplanes, even the spy planes. Just like the Cuban missile crisis the United States flew over Cuba with spy planes to take pictures at a high altitude of military objects. Which the same photos today science would call them Sattelites footage, what a joke. The 4th photo with Polaris explains that Polaris doesn't move, hence the name north star. It doesn't move and never will. Which is pretty much impossible through a vast endless space vacuum seeing the same stars more than one time is very unlikely. When you have perfect timing and cycles. That's way to perfect to even think of mental retardation. Nothing from "space" moves because there is no space. This is it. Well other realms. By Norse mythology there are 9 realms. Just no space. There is no equator. Unless you think of the bullseye 🎯 flat earth map. Then if you follow the equator, anything from the north/ center is south. Correct? Correct. Of course once again vision is limited by perspective so you are not going to see north star from a great distance just like a tall sky scraper from New York when leaving out to see. Everything dissappear from distance. I found these factors by my own brain. Nobody woke me up to flat earth, in fact I was the guy pushing it since 2014 through random fb comments like I'm doing now. I have done plenty of so called experiments and it's all common sense. The math even disproves the globe model pushed by the ones who gave us the math. How about that. You are talking out of ignorance because you don't know a damn thing. Your 21 years old. Wow fresh out of public school system. Even I knew better at 21 than you. I wouldn't brag about being a monkey evolved indoctrinated idiot. I would be embarrassed. "Why haven't I tested experments". Here's one for you a bonfire lights up the surrounding area, just like the sun does when it moves. Also when you put a camera on the ground and walk away from it. Your legs dissappear first before the top half of your body. Similar to the sun "setting". By your ignorance you have done not one ounce of research into your own cartoon model. There is nothing false about flat earth. You didn't even respond to what I have said in the main paragraph and going to say false. You can't disprove a damn thing I said. The only shape and texture that's on flat earth is the terrain that's on it. Nobody knows how much flat earth weighs and we do know the deepest hole ever dug was from Russia and that's only 7 miles. So Nasa already assumed that there I the inner core, outer core and mantle which is hilarious. No flat earth has been around and will always be around. This globe lie started 200 years ago.

Thanks, I'm going to keep a watch on the trackers for sure, hopefully I can catch one during the darker nights of winter, or might look at a solar filter

@@DaveMcKeegan I'm already looking forward to those videos! How much further can flat earthers keep moving the goalposts though before they fall off the edge of the flat earth? 🙃

@@DaveMcKeegan If he ever responds with something, are you going to pin the comment or make another video on it? I would love to hear what he said (Not being nasty, I'm genuinely just curious as to his response). Maybe you could just let us know in a future video that we should come back to this comment section to see it if he posted anything? Hope you're doing well btw :)

@@ThePhoenixSlayer I think we are already giving this ignorant nick way to much attention, hence relevance. I'd like to see Dave making more astrophotography tips and show and tell, but not to give response to the trolls on comment section, but to educate the rest of us.

@@ambientoccluser I actually thought that this one seemed at least half decent. I didn't think he should give him much attention, I just thought that people would like an update on if he really changed.

@@BondiAV telescopes are rigged by NASA😡🤬

@@BondiAVOh they might, to look at windows down the street never for something useful.

They don't actually want to conduct experiments or read or learn anything. They want to preach from their cozy computer chair about how much smarter they are than everyone else. So, of course, anything that could possibly contradict their view of self-superiority can not and will not be accepted under any circumstance.

That's what's so weird about this one, they are saying something is not possible despite hundreds of people doing it every single night.

@@alittlebitgone "they are saying something is not possible despite hundreds of people doing it every single night." Welcome to the illogical world of conspiracy theories.

He's also quite demanding if Dave doesn't keep it up during the course of the video, lol. 😄

Simple Celestial navigation proves flat earth is an impossibility.

Nice 👍 you’re a genuine guy I’m glad you got to enjoy something with your grandson. Hopefully he knows how lucky he is to have you 😊

We didn't evolve from monkeys on a non consistent cartoon ball seeing the same stars and constellations since the dawn of man where sea level is called sea level for a reason where the north star is stationary. Not including the false equation for curvature eight inches per mile squared doesn't fit into the 24901 mile circumference. Nobody believes in make believe, water pools, Hollywood and cgi. Freemasonry and secret societies exist in every nation. The mental illness is from people like you that can't comprehend what is real from made up Hollywood propaganda to slave the minds of their slaves to keep them enslaved. The photo is upside down to make fun of the ridiculous ball having land mass thats supposed to upside down in real-time. Which in reality it doesn't exist because earth is a flat plane not a cartoon ball. The body of water doesn't have any land masses in it because it's a body of water. Representing that water is level. Nothing can ever change that. You stand on the earth which is flat. Like playing a video game. A flat open world with terrain. Similar to the flat world we are currently in. There are no Sattelites, that's why they keep building cell phone towers and radio towers. GPS works by the triangulation of three cell phone towers bouncing a signal from the source revealing its location, similar to sonar. Nobody will ever find live feed of any "Sattelites" showing my neighborhood in real-time. Google earth is computer generated until you zoom in then it's aerial photos taken by airplane, not sattelites. Television, cellphones, internet signals work with the same radio/ cell towers grid hooked up to a landline communication cables that also hook under the ocean to the other countries keeping us all connected called the Trans Atlantic communication cables paid for by at&t. This is all documented for the public to see. I'm not the bafoon here. I think the guy who believes he evolved from a 🐒 here has a low iq, similar to someone who has down syndrome. This Karman line you ignorantly speak of is called the horizon and no matter how high you ascend, the horizon will always remain level with your eye level. Limiting the amount of distance you can see from your perspective. Once again you can't see the Antarctica wall, something that's thousands of miles away to be visible at your perspective. Perspective is limited, you can't see forever. I'm sorry I had to explain that to you. Ever play a video game? The world's flat, how's come they can't see forever in the flat game world? 🤔 All Sattelite photos except for the cgi film room ones are from high aerial footage by airplanes, even the spy planes. Just like the Cuban missile crisis the United States flew over Cuba with spy planes to take pictures at a high altitude of military objects. Which the same photos today science would call them Sattelites footage, what a joke. The 4th photo with Polaris explains that Polaris doesn't move, hence the name north star. It doesn't move and never will. Which is pretty much impossible through a vast endless space vacuum seeing the same stars more than one time is very unlikely. When you have perfect timing and cycles. That's way to perfect to even think of mental retardation. Nothing from "space" moves because there is no space. This is it. Well other realms. By Norse mythology there are 9 realms. Just no space. There is no equator. Unless you think of the bullseye 🎯 flat earth map. Then if you follow the equator, anything from the north/ center is south. Correct? Correct. Of course once again vision is limited by perspective so you are not going to see north star from a great distance just like a tall sky scraper from New York when leaving out to see. Everything dissappear from distance. I found these factors by my own brain. Nobody woke me up to flat earth, in fact I was the guy pushing it since 2014 through random fb comments like I'm doing now. I have done plenty of so called experiments and it's all common sense. The math even disproves the globe model pushed by the ones who gave us the math. How about that. You are talking out of ignorance because you don't know a damn thing. Your 21 years old. Wow fresh out of public school system. Even I knew better at 21 than you. I wouldn't brag about being a monkey evolved indoctrinated idiot. I would be embarrassed. "Why haven't I tested experments". Here's one for you a bonfire lights up the surrounding area, just like the sun does when it moves. Also when you put a camera on the ground and walk away from it. Your legs dissappear first before the top half of your body. Similar to the sun "setting". By your ignorance you have done not one ounce of research into your own cartoon model. There is nothing false about flat earth. You didn't even respond to what I have said in the main paragraph and going to say false. You can't disprove a damn thing I said. The only shape and texture that's on flat earth is the terrain that's on it. Nobody knows how much flat earth weighs and we do know the deepest hole ever dug was from Russia and that's only 7 miles. So Nasa already assumed that there I the inner core, outer core and mantle which is hilarious. No flat earth has been around and will always be around. This globe lie started 200 years ago.

..... And it's travelling "so we're told" at 17,500MPH, so well done you....😂😂😂😂😂

@@iancohgneetoh3494 you can look up the distance, and use the speed and distance to figure out the angular velocity. its not so high that its impossible to see.

Yet no video of that, buddy 😉

@@user-sc8ph2ds2m you literally just saw a video of it... in the video you just watched.

Shiney

That sums up exactly why we're more likely to blow ourselves up than achieve FTL travel.

Thanks for the setup Raven, but i'll take it from here... Have you seen all this footage of na$a faking $pace?" /watch?v=qqNFr-Z4Gbw /watch?v=ThduRhb7V1A /watch?v=O3kY1xWy0iw /watch?v=V7Orn0erGyw /watch?v=sU4tqJjcywU /watch?v=yee4cw4E4JE /watch?v=x2jMkgAQy9w /watch?v=2fKvCEaURnM /watch?v=QBun3unO0t8

Yep, 15º, I think people are confused by rotary clocks and watches, although there is a timepiece made for a whole day rotation. Ordinary analoge clocks and watches are made for finer gradation of our waking hours (assuming the other "half" of the 24 hour day we are asleep).

Thanks Bob.

Yep, that’s what I said. He will just scream “photoshop!!” Like all those idiots do

@@stevepopplewell6448 Yep. Never mind that Dave shows us the unaltered photos and one can still readily identify the ISS in them.

insert Creaky saying "C - G - I"... that's my prediction anyway

@@evilducks3710 hah! Uncomfortably closeup of eye

@@evilducks3710 Oh look, he responded- Dave pinned it!

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4856wVxyCAY.html

@@Wolfie6020 Nice work as usual, Wolfie. cheers from rainy Vienna, Scott

That's good there are at least some people capable of critical thinking!

That is great to hear. As I always say : an honest flerf is an ex flerf.

Welcome back soldier 🫡 no shame in looking for answers. Glad you are back on our side

​@@ReValveiT_01 ex flat earthers are the most dumbest of all! Just imagine waking up to a deception just to fall right bk into it again!! 😂

Ask your brother how meteorites pass through the dome, always a good one. He might say "meteorites don't exist". Then tell him to look up the Winchcombe meteorite 👍

What is a flerf?

@@lyberth4366 Flat earther.

@@StellarisIgnis Thank you!

thing called blue beam and professional liars need a new map while attempting to understand basic physics. earth is larger than jupiter or flat like kansas

@@jrcather5196 man do you ever just shut up

@@jrcather5196 can you re- word this? first sentence is hard to understand. and are you actually saying earth is flat and bigger than jupiter? or are you being facetious?

@@zhou_sei biblical earth either flat like kansas or larger than jupiter

@@jrcather5196 ok, but the bible says a lot of fictional stuff. why should i care what the bible says?

yes.... "cater." I'm here to talk shit to him personally

Hey, I'd like to see those links. :)

I am very ashamed to say that quite a few nutcases claim to be software engineers. But then again languages like JavaScript or Perl can drive you around the corner straight into nutville.

This was me with Christianity. I called myself a Christian long after I stopped believing in God, because I knew that was a bridge I couldn't uncross. I spent many nights crying and praying, because I didn't want to let go of my faith, because that was my entire world.

@@CoffeeAddictEvan WOW! I stopped "believing" in god way much before I actually admitted it to myself. I KNEW it, but it was a step that I just couldn't take. Done 10 years ago now. The biggest thing was to then tell my wife. My kids... no problem. But it absolutely WAS NOT my entire world. It was just a holdover from what I had been taught from a SO EARLY age. Those things are difficult to let go. They are so ingrained. I was totally fine with it when I got to that point though. "Just STOP! You KNOW it's fake." I don't think that I have ever been so invested into something as you seem to say that you have... actually... in writing that... I have. My relationship with wifey. But it was taking a huge hit for several years before I let go of the god thing.

@@rickkwitkoski1976 I'm glad I'm not the only one who struggled with it. I was a JW, and they are expected to make their faith their entire lives. "Whether you are eating, or drinking, or doing anything else, do all things for God's glory." I guess that includes covering up child sexual abuse, and encouraging people to martyr themselves by not taking blood, even if it means their life. I did try and go into more mainstream Christianity, but I found their answers just as unconvincing.

Yes true lol. But his way is the only chance you have to win someone over. With mutual respect. This is something I've been learning myself finally

@@erichramone7812 I hear you. The trouble is, it’s hard to find someone who isn’t being totally disingenuous when they hold discussions where the points of view are different. Conversations have become contests. Whatcha gonna do? 🤷‍♂️ cheers 🍻

He'd have used the fact that you'd hidden a word in the picture as evidence that it was a fake picture

I intend to 😉

@@DaveMcKeegan He's probably not home from school yet.

@@Katy_Jones He's probably homeschooled, though

Thank you! Cheers!

The guy just made someone go out at night to take a picture of ISS, make a video about it and irritated thousands of people in the process just by posting a RU-vid comment. I love him, you don't see such pure example of trolling much these days. And we all learned something new thanks to him!

Most people who are addicted to conspiracy theories are lazy and have low self-esteem. See, the best way to improve self-esteem is thru self-improvement, like working out, getting a better job, learning a new skill, getting a girlfriend, etc. But that requires too much work for their tastes. So instead, they get into conspiracy theories because it gives them an easy way to feel superior, as though they've stumbled upon some "hidden truth" that others weren't smart enough to uncover. The problem is, the sources they use to discover this "truth" are largely bunk, written by amateurs and quacks.

@@80s_Boombox_Collector slip of the tongue? Stumbled upon some hidden truth, you got that right… yes the truth is, earth has and always will be unequivocally an immovable plane less earthquakes in a closed system… I can’t speak for others who discovered it but I invest 2 hours a day on it. The other hours are being comfortably retired in Switzerland with a nice woman and standard poodle in absolute perfect health, non vaxed and 95% raw vegan, swimming, bicycling, tennis and yoga… The key is to staying out of hospitals and court rooms…Truth is truly heart warming,an enlightenment and a blessing… Peace…

@@FLATSWISS Slip of the tongue? Nope, there's no "hidden truth" in flat earth nonsense

@@80s_Boombox_Collector The truths were always known but were buried by the Royals, Vatican, Jesuits, Zionists and Freemasons for their power and control over the masses, their time is ending soon 500 years of this Santa Ball is enough… Todays optics are so good they have caught up with the lies and the optics will only keep getting better… don’t hold your breath waiting for the Space Agencies to finally put a man, woman and one from each of the other genders on The Cosmic Plasma Phenomenon aka The Moon… You being a NASA Fan Boy or Girl probably already believe they did that 6 times in the late 60’s & early 70’s … Oh What A Tangled Web We Weave When First We Practice To Deceive… Peace…

He did reply, and his reply was pinned to the top of the comments. I can only assume it has either been unpinned for some reason, or he deleted his comment.

"Professor Dave" vs Flat Earth Dave. Watch it sometime if you want. Also in the conspiracy world. You have a lot of individuals who want attention and can't argue their point. I haven't watched this video and probably won't. I've seen something in the shy passing by also. But I've seen plenty of cgi glitches while their supposedly on the fake station. There is one where an astronaut goes by in the background. Supposedly floating. But you see he's using a harness. Just take a look into it sometime. Have a good one.

Huh. Interesting. My experience is the exact opposite. See Neil Degrasse Tyson. The epitome of a smug, condescending "expert".

@@crungefactory I was more referring to people I've met in person. Tyson is more of a celebrity-podcaster than an academic. I'm not lumping Bill Nye in with career academics spending all their time publishing research in one narrow field. Besides, while celebrity-podcaster Tyson is pretty smug, he's generally less smug than the conspiracy theorist arguing with commentors just above us^

I have been saying time does not exist long before scientists built a telescope to prove it to them..

​@@crungefactoryTo conspiracy theorists, anyone who refuse to believe in their nonsense is smug. Any proof shown is fake. Any established theory is a lie. Good to know that these people can vote and breed.

I witnessed the same thing several times always the same distance away from it. If that was the shuttle I should not have been able to see it with my naked eyes being as far away as it is told to us to be. What I am seeing is much larger than a shuttle or both objects are way closer than we're told to be able to see from the ground without artificial magnifcation.

@@bruzrcruzr2004 it's a matter of brightness really. Those objects are high enough above the surface that they are reflecting sunlight, and the relative brightness of reflected sunlight (even a tiny speck) vs the night sky makes them visible even at that great distance.

@@omega5279 even simpler, the sun reflecting from a mirror or optic can be seen for miles though it might only be a couple inches square that one could not see from 500 yards without the reflection.

Did you guys wave at each other?

That is such a cool memory you two have!

Your view on conspiracy theorists is naive. Most will move on with new information, not all have cognitive dissonance.

​@@spacesciencelabThat's just what the government WANTS us to think ;-). So you're saying there's hope ♥️

@@buidelrat132 No. These aliens are demons in guise of aliens.

@@spacesciencelab lmao good one

@@spacesciencelab he's actually spot on. Maybe a flat earther is capable of moving on with new information, but not if they don't allow new information through. In hundreds of videos and thousands of comments providing _indisputable_ evidence of the globe, I have yet to see a flerf do anything but deny, deflect, redirect, lie, mock, and rage quit. Flat earth is their safe zone - it isn't only a matter of having too much invested, it's that they perceive science as pushing God aside. Inside the dome, the universe is a size and age they can grasp. Outside of it they're insignificant, and the universe is terrifying and overwhelming. They _can't_ let contradictory data in, because their whole being depends on that psychological shield remaining intact.

Fortunately, Dave is merely using the challenge as a means of demonstrating to normal folk how it could be done. It's probably something he always wanted to do, but was lacking the impetus. He seems supremely indifferent to whether Pokie accepts the results or not as Pokie isn't his intended audience. We are. That way he avoids getting caught up in a slanging match as do some other educators.

Exactly....these types are not conspiracy theorists...they are idiots

seems he just wanted his 5 mins of fame.

Everybody knows that noise reduction introduces International Space Stations in pictures!

@@pedromega4 Or a tie fighter! Did you see the tie fighter photographed against the moon? When I say moon I of course mean the hollow alien death star

RU-vid does video compression, so one could argue every single RU-vid video is "fake".

@@fredoverflow if you now identify as a flerf, you become exempt of providing evidence. Your claim is proof enough. Start with “cats are fake”

It’s not a belief. It’s a fact

@@Globehoax Another "nuh uh" from you?

​@@Globehoax cope harder

​@@Globehoax A *game* fact. In all seriousness, I'm sure all the engineers who worked on assembling the ISS (and thats a LOT of engineers) will be happy to hear their life is a lie.

@@peppermintgal4302 you so gullible