Probably protecting against rotten vegetables, horse droppings, dead cats, etc. being thrown. As was the custom at the time, for those disliked by the populace.
The reason for the umbrellas was to ensure none of the convicted would faint before the execution because of the possibility of heat stroke, I think some records stated it was about 100 degrees outside during the hanging.
Mary Surrat asked the executioner “Please don’t let me fall” also she asked them to loosen something on her are cause it hurts and the executioner callously told her “It won’t hurt for long”
Well Cosimo, General Hartranphft wasn't a very good executioner; he didn't even tighten the nooses around the left side of the necks of those whom he was going to hang. This means that instead of having the spinal cord broken thus causing almost instantaneous death when they reached the end of the rope it meant that they dangled there and slowly suffocated.
@james rosella Yes war is a nasty affair but the confederacy threw a fit that Lincoln was elected and literally seceded. For you Conservative nationalist types especially who go on about how “great” our nation is that should be a very grave crime indeed. But for some reason I doubt they see it that way I won’t even get into the travesty that was slavery back then.
@james rosella I took a shot in the dark and turns out its a bad idea to shoot in the dark. my mistake for calling you a nationalist. i jumped to conclusions to early. and as for slavery it went back further than biblical times and honestly... it probobly went back further than recorded history.
They still died. If you have doubts about how quickly they lost consciousnesses, get a *TRAINED* Martial artist to perform a _"Rear Naked Choke"_ on you. You will blackout in 3-5 seconds. Hanging is quicker.
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@@nautifella Hanging is quick, when all goes as planned, history has many instances of things going wrong.
I recall some recorded eyewitness accounts, among them, that one of the men was weeping, while another was stalwart and seemingly defiant, and that Mary Surratt was faint and had to be supported -- and was -- by two priests on either side. Also, I recall reading the on-scene quote: "The four bodies fell like a single thing." It was reported that death caps were drawn over their heads first, and then the nooses were lowered. Reenactments tend to show the nooses already lowered, even before the prisoners ascend the gallows. They had been made to sit in chairs while being prepped for their final descent. It was also reported that five minutes had elapsed after they fell before they - though not necessarily all four of them -- finally died.
One of the male condemned prisoners , Azerdodt, ( spelling off) took the longest to expire , and Marry Surrat was the quickest to expire , but did struggled a bit . One of the other condemned conspirators was noticed to have an auto - erotic reaction , an upward position of a certain male tool. A natural reaction to male , and females.
Thet had so EDC coal hoods over their heads and were unable to speak or their faces seen until they were on the scaffold. They were kept in stock solitary before then. The powers that be did nitvwantvitbknown that these were just scapegoats. The true conspirators got off Scott free.
The movie was pretty interesting. If it's anywhere near true, the court really didn't want much to do with evidence.. they were just determined to hang Someone.. and rather quickly. It was shameful that Surratt took the 'fall' for her son... but even more shameful that he let her.
They didn't produce much evidence and wanted to get it over with as quickly as possible because they didn't want it to get out that the radical republicans in the US government were behind it because Lincoln wanted to go easy on the south and they wanted to inflict harsh punishment on the south...as they did
It was a military tribunal. Never heard mention of a jury. Generals were conducting it. Of course they were set on finding anyone they could to take the blame. Evidence be damned. She was complicite like it or not by having knowledge and not reporting it. The son ought to have been ashamed.
@Emperor Vitiate dream on about republicans being the instigators 😄😄😄. A spy was captured by southerners with a memo ordered by Lincoln to either kill or abduct Jefferson Davis. The southerners had considered such to be below war methods, but changed their tunes when they had discovered Lincoln's ideas on paper. The gloves came off. That is why the stripped earth tactics by people like Sherman left them in such shock. Had nothing to with politics and all with getting "cut throat" in war tactics.
I'm referring to the background. The arches on the walls behind the gallows were not there...Mary Surratt was heavily veiled...Paine was wearing a straw hat...Atzerodt had a white cap on when he arrived to the gallows...etc. For such a high budget, high profile film, I would've thought that Redford would've been spot on with all of the details..especially since there are so many photographs that document the event. Also, Alexander Gardner had his camera set up in a building, not on the ground.
My father worked on that film with Robert Redford! He was so kind not only to the main characters, but every single extra you see(which they hired local people from Savannah,Georgia & other local towns wherever it was filming on that day) was treated just as well as any other. Most movie sets they are not! Regardless of the editing of the film, what should be respected is Robert Redford's innate ability to make each person involved with a movie (big or small) feel valued!
@@azblondi2730 Your point is wonderful the film should be historicly accurate whenever possible though. The point is to make it historically accurate and based on facts...expecially simple facts like making sure Mary is veiled and putting a white cap on Atzerodt. That would have shown that he cared about no only the movie but the historicalness of of it as well.
@@2013LPN I don't know if you understand how things work in the film industry? Apparently not. I would highly recommend you do research on how that works before critiquing something you know nothing about (the film industry). You may be the best of the best historian in the world..when you make a movie, those producers/ investors/directors have the power, money and creative license to do with it as they wish.
Mary Surratt wasn't calm at all as this movie depicts. She could barely stand and nearly fainted (the reason for the chair). Was weeping and proclaiming her innocence
Guilty of High Treason. They didn't deny it. They deserved to hang. Knowingly having knowledge of what her son, and the other's were going to do, not to mention being a sympathizer to a traitorous cause against her own native soil is beyond any sympathy that could possibly be afforded.
But people hang themselves like that all the time. I wonder why they would choose that method if it’s so grueling. It seems kind of like drowning, being similar and not being able to breath. Both are scary!
Yeaahh but it kind of would have undermined the plot they were going for; they intended to portray Surratt as a sacrificial lamb who knew that she was risking her own life to shield her son. But in real life, Surratt was a blubbering mess at the execution and that wouldn't really give the strong-woman vibes they wanted.
She should have been put in prison. There were four other men to this conspiracy and they were sent to jail. She knew about the conspiracy and that was her downfall.
That's not accurate. All sources say that Lewis Payne accepted his fate and he was calm during the execution. He did not act kind of angry like he does in this scene (like spitting and other stuff).
+Shelby Dowell It's not about you/me staying calm. I'm telling the facts according to my detailed researches. In Lewis' own words: "My course is run." he accepted his fate, only thing he kept defending till his last moment was the innocence of Mary Surratt.
+Y. K. I was just saying that in terms of character... I think you misread my meaning :). then again Lewis isn't the only thing that's wrong from the original happening.
The rarest thing ever scene on earth in the history of the world: A woman being held accountable A woman getting what she deserves One woman having what all men get
conspiracy to commit murder. They acted as one and therefore punished as one. Maybe the only one that didn't death was Mary Surratt. Dr. Mudd should never have been convicted and imprisoned. He was a doctor being awoken in the middle of the night to be told a man's leg was broken and therefore he set it
+Jennifer Tarnovsky funny you say that. there are real photographs that cover the before, during and after. There is a boy in one of the after photos, staring at the hanging bodies. The book is "Lincoln's Assassins Their trial and execution" by James L. Swanson and Daniel L. Weinberg. In the photo it's not easy to pick out the boy but the caption mentions him. This movie supposedly depicts Mary Surratt as the brave and nearly guiltless victim. She was not either. She was terrified on the scaffold and in the time she awaited execution. This is no insult but the movie portrays otherwise. John Wilkes Booth harmed the south by killing Lincoln. Lincoln was going to go easy on the south. She knew what was up with the plot and maybe not what could happen as a result-and did happen. I say this being somewhat of a southern sympathizer and of the opinion that Lincoln, for all his great qualities, was a bit of a tyrant (for the time-all presidents seem tyrannical now as their strings are pulled).
+Darren Chapman Lincoln was a tyrant, but the southerners who opined having farmhouses burnt and cattle stolen are the same southerners who went to war so they could continue to own human beings. If any group of Americans in history deserve no sympathy, it's civil war era southerners. They're the worst people America has ever produced. And their sympathizes like to white wash history and pretend the civil war wasn't about owning slaves when every declaration of secession from every state that succeeded contained no fewer than 12 references to the word slavery; all in support of it.
I was thinking about just that....seeing my own coffin ready for me i think would freak me out more than anything else in this. That-and being blindfolded, cut off from everything.
@@torehaaland6921 Yeah you're prolly right. After 1868, Britain and Australia went private with hangings, only inside the prison and inside the actual building a very short walk from the holding cell, witnessed only by prison officials and a restricted number of journalists. Coffins were down below the floor through which the condemned was dropped, so the condemned would never see them (the coffins). The last public hanging in the USA was in 1936 in Kentucky I believe - was it standard practice for the coffins to be somewhere in the vicinity within sight?
Not in an American hanging. They worked to a standard drop of 6 feet, for better or for worse. A British hangman worked to a variable table of drops, with allowances made for the condemned's individual stature ( slight build, frail body, paunch etc). British hangings were very, very quick, with the gallows in an adjoining room to the condemned cell (unknown to the prisoner), all religious ministrations completed before the allotted time of execution, and no reading of death warrants. The record for the quickest execution was 7 seconds, with the prisoner dead before the prison clock had finished chiming the hour of 8am.
No, skilled executioners just adjusted the rope lenght to that effect, even then sometimes mistakes were made and the head was ripped off (still a quick death but horryfing to witness) or more frequently the fall wasn't enough to break the neck and the prisioner died slowly by asphixya, that is the reason most nations that still have the death penalty dont use hanging anymore, too much risk of unnecesary suffering, of all modern nations I am only aware of the Japanese still using hanging...no idea if they are extra careful to avoid mistakes or they dont care, they are notably reserved about it
Actually that's pretty much spot on, historically. Did you notice the cameraman taking a photo? You can actually look at the photos he took. About as historically accurate as you can get. Down to their order on the gallows and placement of the crowd.
Also the way they died. Surrott is said to have had the easiest death, falling with a tight snap on the rope with no additional movement afterward. Atzerodt's stomach heaved once and his legs quivered before going still. Herold and Powell struggled for 5 minutes, strangling to death. Powell ' s body was described as having swung about wildly, bringing his legs up once or twice almost in a sitting position. Very disturbing to read about so I understand if they didn't portray that accurately in the film.
None of the condemned prisoners' necks broke during this hanging. A "new drop" was used which was customary during this period, the long drop and measured drop techniques would not be used until much later. Mary Surratt did appear to have an easy death, possibly due to vagal reflex. She was lucky.
Albert Pierrepoint's quickest in the 1930s was 7 seconds from the time of leading the condemned from waiting cell to noose in execution chamber to the point of pulling the lever to spring the trap ... yes the americans were always just a tad too ceremonial in it all and half the time they botched it strangling the poor buggers ...
@ragnar ulrichson I understand. Thanks for getting back to me. I appreciate it. I have actually seen a youtube doco about the more prominent executioners in Britain in the 19th century. At least one of them became a major alcoholic by career's end and another took it upon himself to perform double (unauthorised) role of spiritual adviser for the condemned.
Why do you say that? Guilt or not, is not the most important thing in american courts. Money, connections, skin colour or wether or not you are right wing, is more important.
Ok ok hear me out marry is not guilty she did not no what she was doing all she new was that her son said that someone is comeing give theme guns so she did
+the hip jammer Ok, I think her name is spelt "Mary" (note- only one 'r"), the word should be "know" not 'no' (opposite of 'yes"), and the word should be "knew" not 'new' (opposite of old), and finally, the word is spelt "coming", not comeing. At least that is what I was taught at my school.
My great grandmother was born a Davis. Jefferson Davis was her Great Uncle. In a somewhat interesting coincidence I, being a descendant of J. Davis, attended school with a descendant of Mary Todd Lincoln
What is wrong with executing conspirators in the assassination of a President of the US? ... who by the way wanted to offer mercy to the Confederate states after the war .... they pretty much signed their own death warrants ... as well as guaranteed the entire Confederacy would suffer for years afterwards
Mary Surratt would have been happy to walk under such an umbrella. Because it was not invented until the 1920s by Hans Haupt in Berlin, but she was hanged in 1865
"The umbrella was invented over 4,000 years ago and used in early civilizations in Egypt, Assyria, Greece, and China. They were initially employed as parasols to provide shade from the sun. The term comes from the Latin root word umbra that means shadow." The painting "Parisians in the rain with umbrellas", by Louis-Léopold Boilly (1803) shows umbrellas of the type portrayed in the film 62 years before the hanging. Hans Haupt invented the pocket umbrella. Haupt applied for a patent for a "shortenable umbrella" on April 26, 1930. He called his pocket umbrella "Knirps" (munchkin, tyke, tiddler) and founded a limited liability company of the same name to distribute the innovative product.
I don't get it. Why would you willingly walk to the gallows? Even history showed she wasn't cuffed during the walk there. Fight people. Do what you have to do to make them kill you. Give nobody the satisfaction of execution.
That wasn't the psyche. Official write ups would occur, crowds watched, and the condemned didn't want to be remembered as cowards ... they would much rather the newspaper story the next day remember them as 'walking bravely to their fate' and 'displaying admirable calmness' etc.
You sir are an abysmal human being. Where you gonna go? Run and you only die tired. Especially for these idiots the fact they deserved this, at least go out with some damn dignity. 😂😅
I read in a book by Shelby Foote, that the army expected the Pres. Johnson to issue a last minute stay for Mary, and that the other condemned begged for her not to be executed. The site of the execution is now a tennis court for an Army Officer barracks.
This a great scene but inaccurate. The movie doesn’t go into detail how disturbing Mary last minutes alive were. She was so distraught she couldn’t stand. She was weeping and crying that she was innocent. Mary’s daughter got to see her everyday right up until the day of her hanging. I think Mary’s daughter was allowed to see her one last time a few hours before her hanging. Mary’s daughter finally had to be pulled away from her, while they were both screaming and crying. Mary suffered greatly while in jail, she became very sick and suffered from irregular menstraul cycles.
I wish that never happened, if I could time travel back in time to 1865, my iPad would’ve been on Roblox the purge and if the union and confederacy heard the gunshots, they would be like what was that…
Let me experience the "death penalty" through watching this and similar videos to protect myself from the reality of this tragic incident and ending. I just feel that I am the one who is being forced to walk toward execution. That is the fear I must have in mind from time to time to maintain and establishe a good discipline within my own person. My special thanks to all those who are helping me to watch this terrifying moment which is designated for mankind. It is the only way to keep myself as close as possible to my LORD the FATHER and hold HIS hand as tight as possible.
You're sorely mistaken. Except for the fact that Mary Surratt worn a veil to the gallows, and Lewis Paine was clean shaven and DID NOT resist his fate, this reenactment was VERY accurate. (You can view these details in large scale TIFF scans at this site. www.loc.gov/photos/?q=Conspirators&st=gallery)
Here's an argument for the abolition of the death penalty you never hear, "Why kill them? 157 years from now, no one will care what happened to them and we'll *all* be dead anyway."