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Contemplations on Humanity | Utah Colorado Crossing | American Discovery Trail Ep 168 

First Church of The Masochist Hikes
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@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes 13 минут назад
For the record I don’t actually know the lady in the RV was alone. She was just the only one I interacted with. It was a big RV
@MrIanJHoy
@MrIanJHoy 2 минуты назад
She was probably a nun on vacation.
@terryhikes
@terryhikes Час назад
Well that was a fun road trip. Yosemite, Moab, and ultimately meeting the world's OK-est thru hiker :D Glad the timing was right, I had no idea that morning leaving Moab to head back to Indiana, I'd be driving right by you in the desert. Glad I checked my Insta to see your location that morning. Cold cokes and water are always a winner. Great to meet you and fun convo, also glad your next water cache wasn't dry.
@stitch3163
@stitch3163 53 минуты назад
Super awesome of you 👍
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes 47 минут назад
Really really made my day :)
@BobPalin
@BobPalin 21 минуту назад
Thanks Terry, would you like an ADT sticker?
@Najitaka
@Najitaka 2 часа назад
Matt, the RV lady could have been alone and simply scared. She didn't know you and she was being careful, she's not there to take care of you. She could have thrown you a water bottle, but if you were dangerous, you might have stuck around if she did. I am suggesting a different point of view, though I'm sure it will be unpopular here. We can be thankful for people like Terry.
@rosscampbell4884
@rosscampbell4884 Час назад
The white claw didn't help
@DrDavidThor
@DrDavidThor 49 минут назад
Your view is very popular on RU-vid, where pseudo-experts advice women to bluster at men. But as someone who was a street person for seven years, I know that no matter how popular this sort of opinion is on social media, being rude to potential antagonists is NOT the best course of action. Water might make a thirsty man hang around, but what will keep a bad guy around is rudeness. Please don't give out this wrong advice to women.
@Najitaka
@Najitaka 42 минуты назад
@@DrDavidThor I'm not giving advice. I was simply providing a different point of view than Matt's. I'm not pretending to be an expert. Are you Doc?
@Alcochaser
@Alcochaser 50 минут назад
Well bummer, I love falling asleep to the train sounds. I know they bother you but thank you, thank you for showing the trains!
@TXMEDRGR
@TXMEDRGR Час назад
All day I've faced a barren waste Without the taste of water, cool water Old Dan and I with throats burned dry And souls that cry for water Cool, clear water... - Marty Roberts. I hope you never get into such danger again. Thanks for sharing the adventure, I hope you are in a safe place.
@BobPalin
@BobPalin 11 минут назад
The truck pullover at the start of the video is the first exit into Colorado from Utah (signed as Rabbit Valley). It's actually quite an interesting stop because there is a short developed trail on the north side of the freeway which takes you to a series of dinosaur footprints and bones with educational signs along the way. To the south is the McInnis Canyons area which has several side canyons from the trail that lead down to the Colorado, quite a lot of petroglyphs in those canyons (unmarked). Unfortunately there is no water in the area other than the river which is inconvenient for hikers.
@knittingnana2939
@knittingnana2939 Час назад
I would nt be so harsh about the rv lady. You don't know her circumstances. Perhaps she's new on the road, alone and frightened. Maybe she's had a scary experience where somebody approached and attempted to harm her and actually did harm her. Maybe she has ptsd from things in her past that she's trying to work through. We don't know. So please don't take it personally, and don't hold a grudge against her.
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes 31 минуту назад
Or maybe she was drunk (based on all the cans laying around) and an angry sort. Not a matter of holding a grudge so much as very much not wanting to be the sort of person who would act like that
@DrDavidThor
@DrDavidThor Час назад
__ Black Fudge Canyons Wilderness? [moves green arrow] Oh. Black Ridge. I thought we'd solved re-supply problems for a minute.
@vjdaisy
@vjdaisy 53 минуты назад
I love Neil Stephenson too. Glad it help change your day around. Best of luck.
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes 34 минуты назад
I had some frustrations with Rise and Fall of D.O.D.O. but I really enjoyed the first two sections of Seveneves to the point I’m excited to read more by him. Granted I just really like near future space survival like Ark/Flood, Pushing Ice, Children of Time, etc
@WhackaWhacka
@WhackaWhacka 18 минут назад
You need an emergency holographic Taters.
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes 14 минут назад
I used to have a headband with pigtails in my costume box. Your comment had me laughing picturing keeping that plus a dress in my pack for emergency RV / farmhouse approaches. And then picturing a farmer yelling about the bearded cross dresser running around in his corn field
@DrDavidThor
@DrDavidThor 21 минуту назад
__ 3:57 Per the internet: "White Claw Hard Seltzer is an alcoholic seltzer water beverage...first introduced in 2016." I'd guess that where there's White Claw there's likely to be a plastic water bottle (easily chucked out a window).
@labcat647
@labcat647 2 часа назад
Single women, alone in remote areas, learn to be wary of men knocking on their door at night the hard way. It's always been that way for women, so as a man have compassion and let it go... carry more water than you think you need. A gallon is not enough for some of the coming stretches.
@JessieCarty
@JessieCarty 57 минут назад
It's tough to be dismissed or ignored but I can't say I wouldn't have done the same if I was alone and someone approached me in the dark. Glad a couple was found though!
@DrDavidThor
@DrDavidThor 53 минуты назад
Sorry, no. It's dangerous advice to women to imply that they should be rude to strangers in lonely places. Confident kindness is the safest course. Chuck a bottle of water out the window and wish him good luck.
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes 41 минуту назад
There is a diminishing return at a point to carrying more water as more weight = more exertion = needing to drink more. My issue here and the previous day really came down to trying to hike through the heat of the day since it was “only” low 90s and that burning me at the end of the day. I still had a liter+ crossing salt creek for example. Also if she was just nervous she could have always thrown a bottle out and said she’d call the police if I didn’t leave. That area is also a sprawling BLM campground so it’s not like I came up to her somewhere 50 miles from the nearest road
@sarahbeckwith1675
@sarahbeckwith1675 27 минут назад
You mention in your video of others arranging their own water caches. Kudos to them for preparation and taking ownership of their own adventure.
@nml4546
@nml4546 Час назад
Glad this day went better.
@criticaloptimist
@criticaloptimist 2 часа назад
I know a lot of 911 centers can take texts. I wonder what happens when you text from satellite. I’d really hope there is a way to communicate please don’t send a copter, I just need water. It’s so frustrating that someone would think that out there a bad guy is using water to find a victim.
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes
I did try my best to avoid a helicopter during the New Mexico incident where I injured my calf. I’ve also had some painful experiences with dealing with 911 responses in wilderness areas to the point I wouldn’t expect a whole lot.
@Takeoffin321
@Takeoffin321 2 часа назад
There's not much "united" left in these states.
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes 38 минут назад
I’d argue that’s the impression that causes a lot of this. Lots of really nice people out there but if you just sit at home and listen to all the panic stories on the news it makes it feel like it’s all us vs them
@otway00
@otway00 5 минут назад
Regardless of where you are, there are going to be people that will always help others and those will not lift a finger to help anyone
@MGMissy
@MGMissy 45 минут назад
I can't say what I'd do if I were that RV lady. There's a couple of RU-vidrs I watch who've had bad experiences who simply would have driven off (though it sounds like she had a lot of stuff set up outside). Sorry that she left you in a lurch and I'm glad you found the Aussies. I can say I wouldn't have said anything disparaging about California though!
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes 21 минуту назад
Believe me I get the whole not wanting others nearby thing. I’m the guy who goes out of my way to not camp around others and have moved camp due to people acting off on my vicinity. It already took extremity for me to approach anyone’s campsite like that and I did the best I could. Flashed my light, called out, and when I did knock I backed off a respectful distance. In the end is what it is. At least I didn’t end up with someone pulling a gun…
@tammieflemal7871
@tammieflemal7871 2 часа назад
It’s sad that people are so distrusting. While yes there are wackos out there not everyone is! If you’re that scared then maybe you should rethink Boondocking. I’d would have given you water and I’m an older lady
@mysickfix
@mysickfix 2 часа назад
they didnt used to be. im from texas and i remember it being a thing at you NEVER REFUSE TO GIVE WATER things have changed so much. its sad and unamerican.
@scmay29
@scmay29 2 часа назад
The internet fuels the perception of danger. We see every bad thing that happens unlike years ago
@rosesmith6208
@rosesmith6208 2 часа назад
why should someone have to not boondocking because a stranger approaches you and you dont know who they are and dont want to interact with them? it is good to be cautious,
@DrDavidThor
@DrDavidThor 31 минуту назад
@@rosesmith6208 nope. Antagonizing strangers doesn't increase safety, it decreases it. If it had been an actual bad guy, he'd have seen the rudeness as a pretext to escalate. Where the heck are people getting these ideas? You're all watching some RU-vid crap I'll bet.
@DrDavidThor
@DrDavidThor 20 минут назад
__ The first trucker would give you water or take you to it. I trust truckers. Long experience.
@mysickfix
@mysickfix 2 часа назад
im still so mad about rv lady... also, former trucker. they will help you! you may have to say youre a hiker not homeless, but its in our nature to help people out on the road dude!!!!
@tammieflemal7871
@tammieflemal7871 2 часа назад
@@mysickfix my dad (a heavy equipment mechanic) told me when I was younger if I ever needed help on the road you could rely on truckers. Grew up around a few truckers good people
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes 38 минут назад
Truckers are awesome. I get waves and honks from them all the time. Sadly their usually moving a bit too fast to stop and chat
@DrDavidThor
@DrDavidThor 30 минут назад
@@tammieflemal7871 Totally right. They couldn't always pick me up cuz of insurance regs but they'd at least give me a sympathetic hand wave. I have yet to meet a trucker who wasn't a nice guy.
@thebigfignewton
@thebigfignewton Час назад
Is this 500 miles of desert?
@BobPalin
@BobPalin 23 минуты назад
No, there are numerous mountain ranges across Utah, there will be snow...
@HawkinII
@HawkinII Час назад
Talking smack about a state sorta like how you an your travel partner talk about Kansas any chance you get?
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes 47 минут назад
We mention the Kansas crossing on this trail because it was one of the more if not the most memorable challenges. Kind of like the Mississippi source to see storm outside of Cape Girardeau. Or the black range on the continental divide trail. We aren’t bashing Kansas as a concept or claiming it has no redeeming value.
@DrDavidThor
@DrDavidThor 34 минуты назад
His worst was that in July and August it was sometimes hot, sometimes flat, and sometimes full of corn. I've heard worse smack. I thought his travel partner in Kansas was an astonishingly upbeat, positive thinker, always looking for little pockets of nature and creatures. You want smack, you'll have to wait till I walk across Kansas. [old dude stays alive long enough to cross Kansas talking smack]
@JessieCarty
@JessieCarty 37 минут назад
Comments are making me a bit sad today. There is a good amount of mansplaining going on about what women should and should not do. I've really enjoyed the videos, and catching up on the old hikes, but the larger the channel gets, I just worry I'm not going to be able to read the comments anymore :(
@MichaelRBlair
@MichaelRBlair Час назад
Come on people, the RV lady easily could have set some water outside and then closed and locked her door. Matt didn't ask her to come inside and have a drink with her. Let's not feed the panic.
@labcat647
@labcat647 Час назад
I once handed out water... the guy hung around for several hours that night trying to keep a conversation going... luckily he was gone in the morning. Then 2 days later, he was at my camp when I returned from a hike.
@karenseeger9880
@karenseeger9880 Час назад
@@labcat647 Wow, that's scary. As someone else commented, women learn to be very wary.
@tangara7166
@tangara7166 54 минуты назад
Sorry. But creepers are a thing, and we can't be too careful. It may be only a rare occurrence, but when it happens to you, it's not fun.
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes
@FirstChurchofTheMasochistHikes 49 минут назад
My thought at the time is if it was a more remote area and I was in worse shape her refusing water might have resulted in me hovering nearby. As it was when I approached and said I was having a bit of an emergency I also said I wasn’t looking to stay anywhere nearby. She didn’t seem like she was actually listening to anything I said though
@DrDavidThor
@DrDavidThor 38 минут назад
__ Fifty years ago I was wandering around there with my tent sleeping wherever the heck I wanted. My kind of people had been wandering the deserts for thousands of years and I wasn't about to pay attention to "ownership" rules. But Matt, by contrast, goes to extraordinary lengths to do the right thing, often exhausting himself in the process. And still I notice women and people giving each other likes for telling each other how great it was that that woman was rude to him. It's a good reminder to me that it's probably not worth it to follow the rules. If people want to be mad at you they'll figure out a way, even if you're one of the overly good rule followers like Matt. The "women and people" was, yes, a joke.
@sarahbeckwith1675
@sarahbeckwith1675 Час назад
You claim to be an experienced hiker, but you continually put yourself in situations, ei, no water low food or health, foot issues. Im not impressed! Take a look at yourself..would tell Taters,or a future daughter, while traveling alone, to open the door at night to a disheveled man begging! I dont think so! You ve only made it this far due to the kindness of others, not your skills as a hiker. Take ownership of your hiking.
@thomasmontoya7279
@thomasmontoya7279 Час назад
Yeah !!! You're supposed to hunt for your food along the way !!! :P
@DrDavidThor
@DrDavidThor Час назад
Who said anything about opening doors? Tell him where the tap is or chuck a bottle out a window. It's not rocket science. From a purely practical point of view, and I speak as someone who's spent a third of his life outdoors, it's not, it's just simply not, in a lady's self interest to antagonize strangers. It doesn't matter what You Tube is telling women, the simple fact is that it doesn't increase a lone woman's safety to be rude. Quite the opposite.
@DrDavidThor
@DrDavidThor Час назад
__ Matt's probably too polite to respond, but he's engaged in a great adventure, and adventures come with risk. He's an extremely friendly extrovert who gets along easily with strangers. He puts out good energy and communities along the way respond with good energy.
@thuggoe
@thuggoe 26 минут назад
you also know these things happen, when you hike a large amount. he wasn't in a deadly situation, because he could have walked 4 mile back to the last water
@BobPalin
@BobPalin 10 минут назад
@@thomasmontoya7279 the ADTS has had several enquiries from people who wanted to know if that was possible!
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