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Controversial Claim of Alien Spaceship Spherules and What They Probably Are 

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Hello and welcome! My name is Anton and in this video, we will talk about the discovery of potentially extrasolar spherules by Avi Loeb and his team
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arxiv.org/abs/2211.02305
Oumuamua: • 'Oumuamua Finally Expl...
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0:00 Oumuamua Object
0:25 Alien Probe?
1:05 Avi Loeb and his propositions
2:05 Original proposition and discovery of the meteor
2:45 A trip to find it in the ocean
3:40 Is it surprising they found stuff? no
4:40 Discovery of spherules and what they are
5:30 Belau spherules - strange composition or?
5:50 The main issue with this study
6:40 What happens to meteor when ablation kicks in
7:20 Different iron or not?
7:50 These are probably meteor pieces though
8:30 Is Uranium unusual in this sample?
9:00 Potential explanation for Uranium
9:40 Previous discoveries of extra solar grains - very different from this one
10:15 Potential ways of making sure this is not extrasolar
10:50 A recent study suggests these are just coal ash and not meteor samples
12:30 Contamination
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@whatdamath
@whatdamath 6 месяцев назад
Here's that Oumuamua video that explains why it had the unusual acceleration and strange wobble: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hkZRUs8A_9Q.html
@theperfectbastard451
@theperfectbastard451 6 месяцев назад
It's a little more nefarious than "sensationalism", as Avi Loeb is part of a larger psychological operation centered out of the state of Israel, in conjunction with CIA. These types of "sensational" UFO media blasts are about psychologically priming the public masses, for the ultimate goal to instigate an "outside universal threat" (to quote Ronald Reagan's 1987 speech to the UN) that creates a need for trillions of tax payer funds towards developing a larger "space force", in which the Military Industrial Complex will benefit...
@panasclepias2937
@panasclepias2937 6 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@samimurtomaki5534
@samimurtomaki5534 6 месяцев назад
This does really not explain how it was able to keep it's tumling rate what I mentioned in my comment. Actually this is what makes me to lose my trust for science. Why it is better to make exraordinary claims without explanation or proof if it does not include aliens? This is just stupid.
@henrythegreatamerican8136
@henrythegreatamerican8136 6 месяцев назад
Looks like floating space poop.
@johnnygizmo4733
@johnnygizmo4733 6 месяцев назад
Put dedicated time into looking up at night. Best times are the hours just before and after sunset and sunrise. You will see.
@TheFluffyDuck
@TheFluffyDuck 6 месяцев назад
I’m published in the field of micrometeorites. You have to be so careful with “small round metallic objects”. For instance we were looking for micrometeorites in 3 billion years old cherts. To crack open the Chert we used a technique that use high voltage to smash the rock into dust. We started finding thousands of them, then we realised it was small metal droplets from the anode and cathode we were finding. We changed our technique to good old fashioned acid and we started finding real meteorites.
@JacquesTreehorn
@JacquesTreehorn 6 месяцев назад
Did you do any flint napping? That would be fun to pick up a stone age craft while pursuing a PhD in Astrophysics.
@Ranstone
@Ranstone 6 месяцев назад
Same with welding, and blacksmithing. In fact, small iron beads always form if you gather iron from iron eating bacteria or iron rich silt and heat it in a blast furnace.
@darylbrown8834
@darylbrown8834 6 месяцев назад
​@@RanstoneOceanic smokers maybe? Bubbles in spherules maybe coupled with certain amounts of salinity of the ocean make them just buoyant enough to travel some distance?
@helloyes2288
@helloyes2288 6 месяцев назад
not to be a dick but shouldn't that have been an obvious result of smashing the rocks with high voltage?
@richard--s
@richard--s 6 месяцев назад
​@@helloyes2288 ... when there is enough metal in that rock. Well, it's difficult to have people from all faculties at hand. How should they know, that welding practice would be needed to say "no". (Because of the side effect that metal droplets would be produced).
@snipelite94
@snipelite94 6 месяцев назад
"A poop shaped asteroid" Anton Dec 2023
@drbuckley1
@drbuckley1 6 месяцев назад
Ha-ha! He said "Ass-teroid!" 😕
@TruthOfZ0
@TruthOfZ0 6 месяцев назад
😂 hahaha 🤣
@anniealexander9911
@anniealexander9911 6 месяцев назад
New merch drop? 😉
@ansonpui5855
@ansonpui5855 6 месяцев назад
From obsession to totally pissed off in just a few years, poor omuamua😂
@IggyCrib
@IggyCrib 6 месяцев назад
Mr. Anton. I started following you, not because of some alien hype, but because you daily fill my brain with amazing knowledge about the universe
@captainahab5522
@captainahab5522 6 месяцев назад
Beryllium can be used as a neutron reflector which can be useful in a nuke, so seeing beryllium and uranium melted together seems to make sense for nuclear fallout
@personzorz
@personzorz 6 месяцев назад
Watch the point if you actually look through the scientific literature you find references that that chemical signature can be created by the right kind of material interacting with seawater for a few thousand years
@GeneralSulla
@GeneralSulla 6 месяцев назад
Neutron reflectors in nukes are made of styrofoam. Yes, STYROFOAM!
@naamadossantossilva4736
@naamadossantossilva4736 6 месяцев назад
Also,Berylium is made by spalling from heavy atoms,so finding it with Lanthanum and Uranium is no surprise.
@vanguard9067
@vanguard9067 6 месяцев назад
@@GeneralSullanot a neutron reflector, more like another compressive force based on turning the expanded polystyrene into a plasma. Although I am a tiny bit skeptical of that explanation.
@helloyes2288
@helloyes2288 6 месяцев назад
I'd expect them to get transmuted from proximity to a nuclear blast.
@coffeeshangarworkshop8051
@coffeeshangarworkshop8051 6 месяцев назад
Regarding collecting magnetic things with a magnet, if you haven't cleaned your gutters in a long time it's almost guaranteed that there's some tiny meteorites collected in there that fell on your roof and got washed into your gutters.
@arkvoodleofthesacredcrotch6060
@arkvoodleofthesacredcrotch6060 6 месяцев назад
There's whole plants growing in those things so I should have a pretty good chance lol
@scrubjay93
@scrubjay93 6 месяцев назад
I called Avi and he's doing an expedition to my gutters in 2025!
@steveglynn9988
@steveglynn9988 6 месяцев назад
Researchers have been collecting samples from the roof of Canterbury Cathedral, their gutters haven't been cleaned in hundreds of years.
@jonstfrancis
@jonstfrancis 6 месяцев назад
I read those can also contain spherules from volcanos. I collected dozens once from a waterbutt connected to a gutter; found loads of black and red globules.
@duudsuufd
@duudsuufd 6 месяцев назад
Can also come from the power tools used by the builders.
@Charley_Buehner
@Charley_Buehner 6 месяцев назад
They can't find a 777 on the ocean floor, but "Hey, lets go look for some fancy grains of sand"
@BisexualPlagueDoctor
@BisexualPlagueDoctor 4 месяца назад
To be fair, water is really fucking crushing and space is literally almost empty Like there is stuff in our system and we can tell what it is by how it moves and once we know what it is and if it’s in our solar system then we can just zoom in and a professional 3d artist can make a rendering of it and boom space object The ocean is filled with random shit, blocks light, and crushes anything that goes too deep
@spacepygmy4443
@spacepygmy4443 6 месяцев назад
I like the fact that this conversation wouldnt happen if avi doesnt do what he does, avi loeb is legend 🎖
@mcmoose64
@mcmoose64 6 месяцев назад
Unlike several other reputable science channels, you treated this whole fiasco with the exact amount of respect it deserved. Oh hi Neil.
@whatdamath
@whatdamath 6 месяцев назад
I did sigh a lot in between cuts.
@Nico_Dica
@Nico_Dica 6 месяцев назад
@@whatdamath That's maybe what I appreciate the most with you. It always seemed to me that you are very aware of your own potential bias and make a lot of extra effort to stay neutral. PS: I try to not judge people just because their life brought them to different thoughts processes than mines, but I did smirked a lot.
@AtlasReburdened
@AtlasReburdened 6 месяцев назад
You mean by starting with a presupposition instead of beginning with a neutral examination?
@BooksRebound
@BooksRebound 6 месяцев назад
Amanda Collier has a great video about crackpots and she eventually dedicate part of the video to talking about Avi Loebs crackpottery
@SevenSixTwo2012
@SevenSixTwo2012 6 месяцев назад
@@BooksRebound Many inventors and discoverers throughout history were deemed "crackpots" too, until the World learned otherwise. The elitist ivory towers of academia don't hold the sacred truth.
@kadmuspl830
@kadmuspl830 6 месяцев назад
this reminds me of a showerthought I had a while ago, which is, if an asteroid can send debris into space, it means that there might be some dinosaur fossils floating around solar system
@Julia-uh4li
@Julia-uh4li 6 месяцев назад
And foliage 😉 Although it would have probably been fried in the process......?
@thehellyousay
@thehellyousay 6 месяцев назад
good luck picking out which teensy bits of cosmic dust are the remains of a vaporised t-rex, bud ...
@silverhurst7241
@silverhurst7241 6 месяцев назад
And dinosaur poop containing caveman bits! 😅
@PrometheusZandski
@PrometheusZandski 6 месяцев назад
Not fossils, but chunks of desiccated dinosaur were at one point floating out there. They would unfortunately be irradiated to dust by now (66M years later). I think the average size of anything that flew into space from the Chicxulub impact would be quite small to start. Still, not impossible that a fist sized chunk of organic matter might be out there.
@Zeithri
@Zeithri 6 месяцев назад
Everyone keeps ignoring the great part ;; And that is.... That's an amazing shower thought! \o/
@OrgusDin
@OrgusDin 6 месяцев назад
They found a meteor with copium in it and realized it came from an alien argument between two alien internet celebrities.
@BisexualPlagueDoctor
@BisexualPlagueDoctor 4 месяца назад
Some copium and some copium chloride (a salt assuming copium is intended to be a metal in this joke)
@-jeff-
@-jeff- 6 месяцев назад
TY Anton for countering clickbait "science" with real science.
@Julia-uh4li
@Julia-uh4li 6 месяцев назад
NO! This was not real science. Anton should be ashamed of himself for misrepresenting Loeb's paper. It's disgusting & disingenuous behaviour, and I'm ashamed of Anton for it.
@bonysminiatures3123
@bonysminiatures3123 6 месяцев назад
And anton would know lol
@das_it_mane
@das_it_mane 6 месяцев назад
Avi Loeb just announced the sandwich you had left in the fridge was actually eaten by aliens.
@bholdr----0
@bholdr----0 6 месяцев назад
Hahaa! 'Poop-shaped'... that's so much better than the standard description of it as 'cigar shaped', or just 'oblong'. ...Ya nailed it, A.P.!
@peters616
@peters616 6 месяцев назад
It would be interesting to come up with a test that estimates how long the spherical have been underwater. If that estimate doesn't match the impact date of the meteor that is suspected to be extra solar then I think the gig would be up with this stuff.
@TheKlaun9
@TheKlaun9 6 месяцев назад
Yes, why not do some very complicated and elaborate research nobody knows how to and that will take perhaps even decades to get any meaningful results on some rocks nobody cares about. That's how you ruin a scientific career. I'd love to see that research proposal though: "I want 3 PhD students and some money to buy a bunch of Uranium and recreate a meteor and nuclear waste products to see how long something was underwater to prove someone wrong, or right. IDK. I guess 10 nukes should be good enough to test a couple of variants". I mean it would take at least as long as those rocks were in the water, wouldn't it?
@cybersnap6072
@cybersnap6072 6 месяцев назад
clever
@gabrielv1856
@gabrielv1856 6 месяцев назад
Maybe by taking samples of the bottom of the sea where the meteorite was found. Or the algae or any organism that could give a hint about it.
@peters616
@peters616 6 месяцев назад
Yes good idea. Also since they are mostly made of iron the surface should rust at a calculable rate so that might be another way.
@helenamcginty4920
@helenamcginty4920 6 месяцев назад
They would need to keep spherules in the dark pre testing wouldnt they. I know that thermoluminescene aging of rocks has to be done without sunlight hitting the sample.
@laurachapple6795
@laurachapple6795 6 месяцев назад
Watching Dr. Loeb's evolution from 'respected Harvard scientist' to 'dude who talks about aliens on podcasts' really helped me stay sane during lockdown.
@thingonathinginathing
@thingonathinginathing 6 месяцев назад
Aliens are literally real, catch up lol
@Pavel_Poluian
@Pavel_Poluian 6 месяцев назад
The truth can be established using special open source exploration methods (TEXT MINING). 🕳🕳🕳🕳🕳🕳🕳🕳Popular presenter Tucker Carson talked about UFOs, he referred to the publication of the American newspaper The Wall Street Journal (12.07.22), where the article Putin and UFO sightings was published (authors Holman W., Jenkins Jr.) - there was a topic discussed: if this is a secret military equipment, then who produces "flying saucers" - the United States or Russia? This is not surprising, because modern electrokinetic "flying saucers" are a clever secret technology, but all within the framework of ordinary physics! I will also clarify one important point. "Flying saucers" and devices known as "dark triangles" are a technique invented on Earth. There, the railguns are reduced to the size of a ballpoint pen rod - they are quite miniature. They are assembled into flat panels that resemble plasma panels of conventional televisions with a cellular structure, and the current supply scheme to the arresters is similar. The distance between the contacts is negligible - an ordinary spark of an electric discharge becomes a bridge between them (sometimes rail sensors are made coaxial - similar to direct-flow reactive ones). All cells work synchronously: they emit plasma streams - sparks of electrical discharges accelerated by induction force. The speed of the outgoing plasma is enormous, and the number of railguns assembled on the panel reaches hundreds of thousands. The total motor impulse in the end turns out to be impressive. The discharges follow with a frequency of megahertz, each pulse enters the air, which, in turn, twists into toroidal rings. That's how this secret technique flies. They are made in the USA, Russia, and China. It's time to declassify! 🐻🐼
@NullScar
@NullScar 6 месяцев назад
I think he has always talked about aliens. But same as you in following history.
@96kyh
@96kyh 6 месяцев назад
I want to believe
@napoleonfeanor
@napoleonfeanor 6 месяцев назад
He always liked to talk about aliens. What changed was the attention given to that side of him and he probably monetized it. It isn't that uncommon that good scientists get more well known later in their career from talking about their personal pet peeve. Take Richard Dawkins for example, who is mainly known for his atheist activism and less for his gene centric model of evolution.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 6 месяцев назад
There's one issue there, Anton... Dr. Leob also collected spherules out of that region, to compare as control samples. I agree, alien technology is probably not the case. But the composition is interesting.
@alpha.wintermute
@alpha.wintermute 6 месяцев назад
it's not aliens lol
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 6 месяцев назад
@@alpha.wintermute That's kinda what I said...
@DavidRDavidRoss
@DavidRDavidRoss 6 месяцев назад
👋 🤡
@feral_orc
@feral_orc 6 месяцев назад
Except in the paper they admit to cherry picking samples from the control: "Additional spherules were selected from run 22 and run 17, as they are not on IM1’s path and provide the background abundance patterns for spherules from the solar system." So yeah, they just picked some spheres from the control area and said "yup, these go in the paper"
@John-wd5cb
@John-wd5cb 6 месяцев назад
Naaah.. He is probably looking for Chinese spy vehicles. He is Mossad.
@NullHand
@NullHand 6 месяцев назад
Avi released Mass Spec data on the sphereules. It's in the arXiv paper. They only released data on Iron (Fe), but the results put them WAY out of the isotopic ratios for Terrestrial Iron. So that rules out coal ash, welding cherries, battleship armor, and all the other but-wattabout counterarguments from Earthside. The Fe isotope ratios ARE within the range of meteorites from within our Solar system. But as you and Avi pointed out, some of this can be affected by vapor phase fractionation during atmospheric entry. That same atmospheric entry heating would probably make any Oxygen mass spectrometry useless, for pretty obvious atmospheric composition reasons. But what WOULD be very interesting is mass spectrum of the Uranium isotopes. These would be far less affected by thermal fractionation, and due to their decay rates, could peg these sphereules as extra-solar. But no test would ever be able to prove if it was a techno artifact after being airburst and melted into millimeter sized sphereules.
@SevenSixTwo2012
@SevenSixTwo2012 6 месяцев назад
Unless they find some extremely exotic or unknown material in the samples, which can only be achieved through manufacturing. The important thing is to keep looking, not sitting on the laurels of preconceived ideas in the ivory towers of academia.
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx 6 месяцев назад
He didn't even mention the military detecting this meteor, and that they concluded the extra solar origin because of its unusual speed. Also that it disintegrated much too late. This guy Avi Loeb s only doing his job. He is not only a high egghead at Oxford, but also has some kind of relation to the US military concerning UAPs. 🚀🏴‍☠️🎸
@lutze5086
@lutze5086 6 месяцев назад
​@@MichaelWinter-ss6lxhe mentions the velocity @ 2:20
@simontmn
@simontmn 6 месяцев назад
It would not be surprising if he dredged some meteorite fragments, but almost certainly not from that one fast moving interstellar meteor.
@adaiku
@adaiku 6 месяцев назад
Egghead, yes, but Oxford, no... believe he is chair of Physics at Harvard. For folks in positions like that, I'd say self-,promotion is part of the job description.
@AtlasReburdened
@AtlasReburdened 6 месяцев назад
Where are the links to all of these studies that demonstrate counter evidence? For instance, the one that demonstrates the production of coal mine ash from gold mines, and the one that confusingly demonstrates that extrasolar objects must ablate to sub centemeter remnants.
@SilverSniperz
@SilverSniperz 6 месяцев назад
An even better test would be to sample an area of equal distance from the Marshall Islands but in a completely different location
@staticgrass
@staticgrass 6 месяцев назад
They did this.
@NonJudicialParent
@NonJudicialParent 6 месяцев назад
I love your programs they’re very informative. Including this one and the one question I have is if there’s Coal Ash + the Marshall Islands…. Wouldn’t sinking ships during World War II emit coal ash when sunk? some of the older ships that were sunk being coal powered?
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 6 месяцев назад
Coal ash could come from anywhere on Earth.
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx 6 месяцев назад
Coal ash is there in abundance and it must be highly magnetic. It also stays all in one spot on the ocean floor. Oh, he didn't mention that; forget it. 🚀🏴‍☠️🎸
@Kneedragon1962
@Kneedragon1962 6 месяцев назад
Carl Sagan (amongst many others) : "Extraordinary claims, require extraordinary proof."
@13xBlackSun
@13xBlackSun 6 месяцев назад
And if there were none, Dr. Avi wouldn’t start chasing it.
@douglaswilkinson5700
@douglaswilkinson5700 6 месяцев назад
Independently verifiable *6σ* or greater evidence.
@mattsavage9960
@mattsavage9960 6 месяцев назад
Carl Sagan was into UFOs in the 1950s but then was an avid debunker in the 1960s and 1970s all of a sudden when he got close tonthe people who done the conduin report amd other well known government debunkers and disinformation workers. They say extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence yet dark matter and dark energy that hasnt been proven is widely accepted in the science community dispite zero extraordinary evidence in fact theres far more ufo evidence than dark matter or dark energy. Strange isnt it?
@KnightspaceORG
@KnightspaceORG 6 месяцев назад
​@@13xBlackSun He would. His idea of an alien interstellar object was based on quite literally nothing.
@bonysminiatures3123
@bonysminiatures3123 6 месяцев назад
stupid argument
@moosehead4497
@moosehead4497 6 месяцев назад
beryllium is also a major component of the neutron reflector inside nuclear weapons, I would think though if it really were the case it would be easy to confirm by checking the Uranium isotope distribution to see if it's natural or not.. although some natural unenriched uranium is used in the bomb
@GarrettFrechette
@GarrettFrechette 6 месяцев назад
“Don’t be hasty.” -Treebeard
@coffeeshangarworkshop8051
@coffeeshangarworkshop8051 6 месяцев назад
Spherical objects in the ocean make complete sense. If a liquid molten object falls it will form a sphere as it falls and cools to retain the shape... Ancient Greeks dropped molten metal off of tall towers into water to make spheres... Nature does it too.
@luipaardprint
@luipaardprint 6 месяцев назад
It’s actually surprisingly difficult to get perfect spheres by dropping molten metal into water. I tried this a few times with silver for some jewellery, and even getting something somewhat blob liked requires a layer of oil on top of the water. But maybe the height makes a difference.
@coffeeshangarworkshop8051
@coffeeshangarworkshop8051 6 месяцев назад
@@luipaardprint yeah, it's the height that makes the difference, the molten sphere has to cool down most of the way in the air and solidify before impact, the water just finishes the cooling process and keeps it from splatting into hard ground and deforming on impact. This is why they dropped their molten metal from tall towers.
@ramimahdi2
@ramimahdi2 6 месяцев назад
They did a control area , and the shape of the distribution of those pieces location seems to match the meteor
@lotsofstuff9645
@lotsofstuff9645 6 месяцев назад
It’s not actually extra terrestrial. That would be ridiculous. It’s a spaceship but made on earth. The big foot species are actually much more advanced and have developed interstellar travel. I don’t have any sources or evidence because I have made it all up, but you can’t prove it isn’t true… so maybe it’s possible. I think that’s how that works. Science!
@AyoBodee
@AyoBodee 6 месяцев назад
What?
@misfitlife1866
@misfitlife1866 6 месяцев назад
Crazy that there is a lot of people who look at stuff like Jacque vallee, used to believe aliens extraterrestrial then after years of looking more into he said it seems the they are subterranean or inner dimensional
@raymondjack
@raymondjack 6 месяцев назад
UFOs are UAPs now, I’m surprised instead of Bigfoot we haven’t stalled calling them the more inclusive term of bigfeet.
@matthewschiavi7353
@matthewschiavi7353 6 месяцев назад
They're Wookies, I tell ya!
@level7041
@level7041 6 месяцев назад
🤪
@jimcurtis9052
@jimcurtis9052 6 месяцев назад
Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 🙏😎
@robertfindley921
@robertfindley921 6 месяцев назад
"If you want to get famous, just talk about aliens." Very true! They are in fashion again!
@tactileslut
@tactileslut 6 месяцев назад
Coal mining aliens with a thing for poop.
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 6 месяцев назад
I’m waiting for pirates to get popular again before I reveal my theory about ancient extrasolar pirate ships.
@christophermullins7163
@christophermullins7163 6 месяцев назад
​@@MarcosElMalo2lol
@DisneyJF
@DisneyJF 6 месяцев назад
The one thing Anton loves saying "it is not aliens".🤣🤣🤣
@alangknowles
@alangknowles 6 месяцев назад
Except this time it is.
@markbarker8376
@markbarker8376 6 месяцев назад
He knows anything great superpower.
@johnmccallum8512
@johnmccallum8512 6 месяцев назад
@@alangknowles Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
@naamadossantossilva4736
@naamadossantossilva4736 6 месяцев назад
Most people like being right.
@sebastiengoulet360
@sebastiengoulet360 6 месяцев назад
​@@alangknowlesSource : trust me bro
@edwardpodgorski983
@edwardpodgorski983 6 месяцев назад
I follow you on a daily basis and find your podcasts very informative and enjoyable to watch. I would love you to do a review of possible UAP's and the footage that has been released by US and South American Governments. Some of the footage is somewhat unexplained and suggestion being possible alien technology. In particular the footage taken by a US military aircraft. Just maybe could these be unmanned craft/probes examining Earth? When we eventually travel to the stars as we have already started to do Eg Mars would we not send these type of unmanned probes?
@thingonathinginathing
@thingonathinginathing 6 месяцев назад
Like acadamia, Anton doesn't acknowledge any of that lol This video is the closest we get, until he starts making videos about NHI and UAP post disclosure as if he was always on board.
@ColdWarAviator
@ColdWarAviator 6 месяцев назад
Beryllium was fairly common as an initiate in the core of fission type weapons used around the Marshall Islands. Good call Anton.
@ComaDave
@ComaDave 6 месяцев назад
Loeb is turning into that "Alien Memes Guy". His "Oumuamua as broken alien light sail probe" doesn't hold water if you consider the likelihood of broken light sails lacking the ability to accelerate due to light pressure. And his touting of alien signals from Proxima Centauri neatly dovetailed with his involvement in Breakthrough: Starshot. Be wary.
@sneezyferret6482
@sneezyferret6482 6 месяцев назад
The Angry Astronaut has been harping on and on and on about all this....aliunz!!! Sigh.
@jaroslavpesek6642
@jaroslavpesek6642 6 месяцев назад
​@@sneezyferret6482 because more people watch nonsense about aliens.
@ontoverse
@ontoverse 6 месяцев назад
He's an embarrassment to his faculty and Harvard as a whole. His unhinged rant on a SETI meeting awhile back was exactly what I'd expect from the tinfoil-UFO-crowd. He's completely lost the plot. All that's missing is some religious nonsense and he's right up there with the Ancient Alien cults.
@thingonathinginathing
@thingonathinginathing 6 месяцев назад
No he isn't. We're aware of the UAPDA and the whistle-blowers like David Grusch. Aliens are real and they're already here. And we have at least 12 of their craft. Catch up. It's like when the church didn't believe Galileo lol That's why Avi named it "Galileo Protect".
@williambrasky3891
@williambrasky3891 6 месяцев назад
That’s a space turd! You beat me to it. Wasn’t expecting that. I’m impressed. You’re a man of culture.
@kdeuler
@kdeuler 6 месяцев назад
It was clearly a turd-berg ejected from an alien sewer during a millennial cleaning.💩
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 6 месяцев назад
That’s a terrible thing to call Profesor Loeb. Heehee!
@voraciousvlad
@voraciousvlad 5 месяцев назад
Good vid as always Anton. I will add though that there is value in a small percentage of scientists pushing venture capital into the pursuit and analysis of meteorites and extrasolar objects. Science does have its own risks of becoming groupthink-ish and we have seen that historically.
@matthewdrum2961
@matthewdrum2961 3 месяца назад
Mr. Petrov, It is nice to find people like you who insert some skepticism and realism into wild claims, while also acknowledging that the wild claims could be true, however unlikely. Bias is hard to remove in science sometimes.
@douglaswilkinson5700
@douglaswilkinson5700 6 месяцев назад
Traveling at 60 kps -- just under 78,000 miles/hour -- is within the range of 25,000 to 160,000 that meteors hitting the atmosphere travel.
@NullHand
@NullHand 6 месяцев назад
60 km/s is about 130,000mph. Still doable for meteorite on high elliptical also getting rammed by Earth at 30km/s. But it would be a lucky shot.
@haiperbus
@haiperbus 6 месяцев назад
avi loeb moment EDIT: lmao I posted this before he was even mentioned in the video. truly a crackpot of the ages
@Geekofarm
@Geekofarm 6 месяцев назад
One thing slightly overlooked is: Would "advanced alien civilizations" use alloys? Humans use alloys because we can't make anything better. If you have advanced tech and want something strong, durable, and heat-resistant, you'd use a molecular lattice similar to diamond (carbon) or sapphire (aluminium oxide). Basically, light atoms with very high bond strength. Need something more flexible? Build it into the molecular structure using nanoscale molecular engineering - nantoechnology, basically. Once you have that technology it becomes the easiest way to make anything and alloys are not required.
@thingonathinginathing
@thingonathinginathing 6 месяцев назад
Cant wait until Anton catches up and we get the videos talking ablut the different UAP and NHI lol
@pjsebadoh5412
@pjsebadoh5412 6 месяцев назад
I think the idea is that the possibility of an ancient alien relic should not be completely ignored... Remember thinking the Earth was NOT the center of the universe could get you burnt at the stake. Ouch.
@thingonathinginathing
@thingonathinginathing 6 месяцев назад
Great reminder! Also they murdered Giordano Bruno because he suggested there are other planets in other star systems, and they probably have habitable worlds... Damn now that I think about it, they probably killed him because they knew he was right!
@_John_Sean_Walker
@_John_Sean_Walker 6 месяцев назад
Avi Loeb telling the aliens how to fly their space ships, compares to a three years old telling their father how to drive their camper.
@AtlasReburdened
@AtlasReburdened 6 месяцев назад
Can you unpack this strange claim that he's "telling aliens how to fly their spaceship"?
@_John_Sean_Walker
@_John_Sean_Walker 6 месяцев назад
@@AtlasReburdened Yes, one moment their ship is tumbling through space, and the next it is accelerating in one direction, very strange how their engines work, isn't it?
@kahnfu-zhin8627
@kahnfu-zhin8627 6 месяцев назад
Coal burning steamships traversing the ocean could also explain those tiny spherules as well.
@CC-iq2pe
@CC-iq2pe 6 месяцев назад
This piece identifies a huge issue in all research today…researchers aren’t being thorough in their efforts. Time to learn to be thorough or get people like Anton to absolutely decimate your findings for way too many people to see…thus becoming infamous for not being a good researcher.
@BBaloa
@BBaloa 6 месяцев назад
I really like this video, i think, all topics of this type, have to be address like this, not confronting, but showing why it doesn't hold, and how it can be explained with simple, down to earth explanations.
@thingonathinginathing
@thingonathinginathing 6 месяцев назад
Wait until Avi Loeb publishes his paper later in 2024
@thingonathinginathing
@thingonathinginathing 6 месяцев назад
Also that's not science, that's just being critical of someone who is actually in the field conducting science lmao
@Pgr-pt5ep
@Pgr-pt5ep 6 месяцев назад
Scientist: "I prefer to use Occam's Razor" Avi Loeb: "It has to be aliens!"
@jedahn
@jedahn 6 месяцев назад
Suggestion: Cover the Weston meteorite event. I think it would be interesting to cover how we assumed space didn't exist to accepting rocks fall from the sky. Also a great example of arrogance and bias.
@spacelemur7955
@spacelemur7955 6 месяцев назад
I am tired of sensation seekers making outlandish claims. Thanks, Anton, gor your level-headedness.
@Nefertiti0403
@Nefertiti0403 6 месяцев назад
I agree that they jumped too fast, too quick to make such assumptions. Seriously 🎉
@Agapanthah
@Agapanthah 6 месяцев назад
We don't know. But new ideas are always welcome...and give us the impetus to investigate. We can always hope that we learn we are part of a vibrant and living universe of multiple/exotic civilizations.
@RandomGuy-lu1en
@RandomGuy-lu1en 6 месяцев назад
sadly Avi has no new ideas. He just screeches "it's aliens!!" every time anything new is discovered ...
@jacobystonecypher791
@jacobystonecypher791 6 месяцев назад
​@@RandomGuy-lu1enI respectfully disagree with you wonderful person. Dr Loeb has helped to start a program called The Gallileo Project(please look into the origins of this name) in the hopes to explore unexplained phenomena from a scientific perspective. Sure many of his focuses are on things that could possibly be extraterrestrial, but he himself has said that if the evidence shows obviously that his findings are mundane he will accept those results and publish them. Please don't dismiss him just because his focus is this field. I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day.🙏
@jaroslavpesek6642
@jaroslavpesek6642 6 месяцев назад
​@@jacobystonecypher791 problem is, he doesnt search for aliens, he wants to find them.
@DisentDesign
@DisentDesign 6 месяцев назад
0:53 right, one that just happened to speed up as it left the solar system..., "out gasing" lol
@richardzeitz54
@richardzeitz54 5 месяцев назад
Your rational disputations of the claims of extra-solar-systemic origins of Loeb's spherules bring to mind that old Monty Python tv episode, "Oh, You're No Fun!" Hahaha😂 I wish I could be more fun myself but I think you're probably right.
@will_uxo
@will_uxo 6 месяцев назад
Finally, someone is calling out Mr Loeb. He is without doubt an incredibly knowledgeable and experienced scientist. However, as we all know extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, which in this case is conspicuous in its absence! I’m guessing this is for additional funding and book sales for Mr Loeb! Well done Anton.
@CaliforniaBushman
@CaliforniaBushman 6 месяцев назад
Well done, Anton! You'd figure sphereules from an object moving 60,000 km/sec or more would be so microscopic they would be transported a long way from the splashdown site by ocean currents to begin with.
@SuperBroncosguy
@SuperBroncosguy 6 месяцев назад
60 km per sec.
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx 6 месяцев назад
No, not well done. I want to know why this too fast meteor went almost completely through our atmosphere, before disintegrating. I want to know why he didn't mention the military concluding an extra solar origin in the first case. I'd like to know why the scared hounds bark at this instead at the moon. 🚀🏴‍☠️🎸
@lutze5086
@lutze5086 6 месяцев назад
They sampled a large area and conducted control runs outside the path of the object, that is how the conclusion was drawn
@toddl001001
@toddl001001 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for your advancement of actual science
@OrcCorp
@OrcCorp 6 месяцев назад
Modern Occam's razor: It's aliens.
@kalikiter1
@kalikiter1 6 месяцев назад
I don’t think Avi ever said he thinks it was aliens. I think he said he can’t rule it out, and thus it’s possible. In doing so, he brings attention the subject and gets people interested who maybe wouldn’t be otherwise.
@andrewnicholas9079
@andrewnicholas9079 6 месяцев назад
And his books
@gags730
@gags730 6 месяцев назад
Avi is a scammer. Let's see what the next groundbreaking 'Alien' discovery he pops his head up for. 😂
@thingonathinginathing
@thingonathinginathing 6 месяцев назад
Well, Avi isn't a scammer. He's going to publish his paper on the UAP findings in 2024, coincidentally the same year that we are going to have disclosure. Catch up, blind folks
@JDthaMC
@JDthaMC 6 месяцев назад
He goes way farther than that he's a charlatan
@kalikiter1
@kalikiter1 6 месяцев назад
@@gags730 scammer of what? All of the $ he’s raised has gone to Galileo. You think grants don’t have red tape? You can just spend it on anything? All goes into his wallet? Every penny has to be accounted for dude.
@diogoduarte4097
@diogoduarte4097 6 месяцев назад
Some people question if it makes sense to search aliens from radio transmissions, which kinda would make sense, if they were found. Meanwhile my man Avi Loeb is assuming aliens would build vessels with ferromagnetic materials when most of metals aren't ferromagnetic.
@christophermullins7163
@christophermullins7163 6 месяцев назад
Avi is making a lot of noise in the entire alien disclosure process/scene. One day in the next decade all these fools that argue against it will all a sudden say "I knew aliens were here all along" pathetic. Do your research and wake up people. We have been intelligently "evolved" over tens or hundreds of thousands of years. Most people do not have the brain power or gumption to believe this fact but in the not so distant future none will be able to deny it.
@thingonathinginathing
@thingonathinginathing 6 месяцев назад
Using radio signals is like waiting for some non-human intelligence to randomly call our phones.. prolly not going to happen. Though, there's overwhelming evidence to support the UAP phenomenon being real, not to mention the recent UAP Disclosure Amendment submitted by congress.. which was shot down by the senators with the largest Defense industry donations lol can't make this stuff up, folks.
@MonographicSingleheaded
@MonographicSingleheaded 6 месяцев назад
Thank you Anton. :)
@SumBrennus
@SumBrennus 6 месяцев назад
It would be instructive to send a sled across point Nemo where most human spacecraft are deorbited and analyze any similar spherules as a control.
@supernova046
@supernova046 6 месяцев назад
Anton the Alien dream killer 😃
@kensmith5694
@kensmith5694 6 месяцев назад
I would bet that it will turn out that many of the samples have a strange origin but one that has nothing to do with ET. The sparklers that people use on festive occasions spit out little spheres of iron. Arc welding also makes spheres of iron. I would bet that some of the stuff lofted by a volcano would be magnetic bits. The significant meteor showers are from the earth passing through a comet tail and we know that comets are from a long way out in the solar system.
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx 6 месяцев назад
The amount of uranium in the outer solar system is next to nothing. 🚀🏴‍☠️🎸
@kensmith5694
@kensmith5694 6 месяцев назад
@@MichaelWinter-ss6lx Can you prove that?
@CC-gg4oj
@CC-gg4oj 6 месяцев назад
Alien Boss: Who's throwing rocks at Earth again? Alien Workers: ...."cricket noises"....
@alphalunamare
@alphalunamare 6 месяцев назад
Excellent Presentation! :-)
@tonytor5346
@tonytor5346 6 месяцев назад
One that puzzled me to this day, was those samples from a Swiss guy sent to U of Lausanne & Max Plank Institute. Strontium where all electron shelves were contained within a 2P6 orbit… that is one that puzzles me. The only way this could be done is manipulating the nucleus & nuclear forces!
@Nypriot
@Nypriot 6 месяцев назад
Do you have any more information on this
@lawrenceatkins2160
@lawrenceatkins2160 6 месяцев назад
I can't take their conclusions seriously when I know from the start that they thought they could actually recover pieces of the meteor out in the Pacific ocean. That's absolutely nuts!
@elduderino7767
@elduderino7767 6 месяцев назад
and yet they probably did they actually checked various areas as a control and the spherules were found only were expected
@WillArtie
@WillArtie 6 месяцев назад
Yeah I heard that too - I think they would need to do much more comprehensive sampling around that area to convince people that what they found was from this particular event. I wonder how much sea floor they covered? I kinda like Avi Lobe as he shakes things up a bit, but he does seem to make himself a target by suggesting alien origins for things.
@amatthew1231
@amatthew1231 6 месяцев назад
Well they did. There's published data you can literally look up yourself. The science they did is actually impressive the isotopes they found cannot be from earth but can be found in our star system so it is likely a meteor, now it's just debating the conclusions.
@lutze5086
@lutze5086 6 месяцев назад
​@@WillArtiethey literally did
@destrobatman5640
@destrobatman5640 6 месяцев назад
@@WillArtie someone has to do it.maybe you will thank them 1 day😁
@redmimic5532
@redmimic5532 6 месяцев назад
You're a good man and people should tell you that every day
@tuzonthume
@tuzonthume 6 месяцев назад
I wondered about the possibility of this area was a WW2 battlefield.
@panasclepias2937
@panasclepias2937 6 месяцев назад
I was so beyond hyped when Oumuamua passed by, especially given its resemblance to the probe in the Arthur C. Clark novel Rendezvous with Rama. However, ever since Avi Loeb has gotten his name attached to it, it's lost a lot of credibility in my opinion. Tantalizing, yes, but unless someone builds a high powered probe that will catch up with the object and observe it directly, I'm no longer gonna play the 'what if' game. Also, everyone has talked about how after Oumuamua swung around the sun, there was a slight acceleration, but nowhere has it been mentioned just how much acceleration, so far as I've seen. That would tell me something if we had some actual numbers to look at.
@ldkbudda4176
@ldkbudda4176 6 месяцев назад
Rendezvous with Rama
@staticgrass
@staticgrass 6 месяцев назад
The acceleration was above the rate expected of either out gassing or solar radiation.
@duudsuufd
@duudsuufd 6 месяцев назад
IMO it is possible that Oumuamua is an alien spaceship. That drawing of a rock is imagination. There are no pictures from it taken close-by. And even it could have an external rock-layer. Would be ideal armour for the spaceship against the dangers of the universe. If the alien civilization were parking their spaceship for a while in a dense gas cloud, it will be soon covered with rocky material because its own gravity will attract a lot of the dust particles close by. Once a sufficient thick layer they can put a crew in it and go. The rocky layer protects them from (micro) meteorites, radiation and sudden temperature changes. The tumbling is a method to keep some gravity inside it. If it does not have to be launched from a planet anymore, the mass of that spaceship is an advantage if they use gravity slingshots to speed up and change direction (just like our own space probes do).
@thingonathinginathing
@thingonathinginathing 6 месяцев назад
It takes 1 scientist looking into something to throw you off? Wow you're easy. Look up the UAP DISCLOSURE AMENDMENT. Avi knows wtf he is doing lol
@kalrandom7387
@kalrandom7387 6 месяцев назад
You can't have a non-biased opinion when you start with a biased opinion. He got his tracking data from the US defense department and NASA, and they're usually kind of correct on stuff, as far as I know.
@jtjames79
@jtjames79 6 месяцев назад
If you want to know who controls you, just figure out who you aren't allowed to criticize. Can't criticize something that doesn't "exist".
@thehellyousay
@thehellyousay 6 месяцев назад
🤣
@feral_orc
@feral_orc 6 месяцев назад
and your point is?
@infinitemonkey917
@infinitemonkey917 6 месяцев назад
The data just says that an object entered the atmosphere really fast.
@urphakeandgey6308
@urphakeandgey6308 6 месяцев назад
^^ The data said it was going faster than the solar system's escape velocity, implying an interstellar origin. God, I agree Loeb is hyping this up way too much, but people act like such smart asses over this when they don't know WTF they're talking about.
@mhoeij
@mhoeij 6 месяцев назад
Loeb’s next paper should include the soundtrack of the X files.
@Shideous
@Shideous 6 месяцев назад
Unless you finds a sign with "made in Alpha Centaur" it's not aliens.
@coffeeshangarworkshop8051
@coffeeshangarworkshop8051 6 месяцев назад
I'm willing to bet that alpha centaurians get most of their s*** from China as well.
@abclop99
@abclop99 6 месяцев назад
It's only Aliens if it's from the Aliens region of France. Otherwise, it's just sparkling extraterrestrial life.
@glennupton2990
@glennupton2990 6 месяцев назад
Good presentation Anton. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
@iraniansuperhacker4382
@iraniansuperhacker4382 6 месяцев назад
this is a logical fallacy. "extraordinary claims" isnt an objective term and its based purely on peoples opinions and feelings. Claims require evidence and its unscientific to say a specific claim is extraordinary or that specific evidence is or isnt extraordinary. All you are doing is engaging in scientism... no different then religious dogma.
@somaliskinnypirate
@somaliskinnypirate 6 месяцев назад
​@@iraniansuperhacker4382random garbage at the bottom of the ocean = aliens is an extraordinary claim. If you find the Milenium Falcon at the bottom of the ocean, you wouldn't need to supply mountains of convincing paperwork..it would be easily provable. Why is this so hard to understand?
@christophermullins7163
@christophermullins7163 6 месяцев назад
​@@iraniansuperhacker4382what an enlightened statement. Soon the close minded fools will be forced to open their minds to the reality that we are here because of "them". I can make hundreds of statements that stand alone in suggesting that aliens probably exist and probably have been here helping humanity.. now put hundreds of statements together and you have the culmination of data that cannot be ignored. One day soon these same fools that say "we are alone" will be saying "I knew they were here all along" pathetic. Open your minds and look around... The clues are everywhere on this planet and ancient scriptures all over the world.
@mikedittsche
@mikedittsche 6 месяцев назад
Loeb's Razor: of all possible explanations, chose the simplest one involving technologically advanced aliens with pink cat ears.
@thingonathinginathing
@thingonathinginathing 6 месяцев назад
Have you been living under a rock? 2023 has been the most important year in the history of alien disclosure. Our American government was literally about to Disclosure with the UAP Disclosure Amendment but senator Mike Turner blocked because he's on the payroll of the Defense companies. 2024 Anton is going to be making videos about aliens lol
@larsgottlieb
@larsgottlieb 6 месяцев назад
Oh Anton, You are a wonderful person.
@kjjohnson24
@kjjohnson24 6 месяцев назад
Avi never claimed the spherules were remnants of an “alien/ET spaceship”. What he did claim is that that they come from an “interstellar object”.
@feral_orc
@feral_orc 6 месяцев назад
there's a clip of the exact quote from the paper in the video.
@swissbiggy
@swissbiggy 6 месяцев назад
It is maybe time to read back a few old articles my dear friend. Because yes, sadly Avi did make these claims multiple times. Just google it and you will find about hundred articles from Avi Loeb in which he does claim this. There are also plenty of videos out there in which he does claim that those spherules are not only from a interstellar object, but also that is has been made by a alien civilization.
@sirnirvikingur
@sirnirvikingur 6 месяцев назад
Ther is a war going on betwen the nerds in the science academy, and i guess Anton is trying to ridicule Avi as mutch as he can. Im on Avi's side and listened to many of his interviews love the guy. But Anton is not as wonderfull as i thoght i guess.
@user-gn1cl9ix7p
@user-gn1cl9ix7p 6 месяцев назад
Nor is your English. @@sirnirvikingur
@infinitemonkey917
@infinitemonkey917 6 месяцев назад
@@sirnirvikingur There is no war. Avi is a fraud making money off of UFO mania.
@jonathanedwardgibson
@jonathanedwardgibson 6 месяцев назад
Neat feeling when your early training / expertise comes to bear on current topic. I like Avi, but like to know a lot more about geology of region, different sea levels and currents across the ages and such. Hard to imagine a galactic-grade probe burning up in our wee thin atmosphere. Curious stuff wherever it and whenever it came from.
@hogandromgool2062
@hogandromgool2062 6 месяцев назад
I've always detested the idea of alien equipment crash landing on earth. They have technology that made it how many hundred if not, thousands of lightyears just to crash land on earth? not a chance.
@iraniansuperhacker4382
@iraniansuperhacker4382 6 месяцев назад
this isnt very good thinking, lets take our civilization as an example. So over the course of 60 years or so we have put a few dozen large sized things into orbits that are either capable of pushing them out of the solar system thru solar wind pressure (like spent empty rocket boosters) or probes like voyager. So lets scale that rate up 14 billion years and countless potential civilizations that have lived and died all throwing untold amounts of trash into interstellar space. Now take into account that stars move around and all that trash will eventually evenly diffuse across the galaxy. Why wouldnt we expect alien trash to burn up in our atmosphere? I feel like you guys are hyper focusing on things like "there is no way an alien probe will crash and burn up in earth".... well who says they are probes? I feel like you guy intentionally think this way because the concept of alien stuff getting to our planet is so beyond disturbing for people on some deep psychological level that we can not allow it to be true even if there is no scientific or logical reason to expect that.
@ToyokaX
@ToyokaX 6 месяцев назад
@@hogandromgool2062 To be fair, if they were unmanned probes, there is a possibility of their technology not being as high as we'd think they would be. For example, we (as in the "royal" we, humans) have sent probes and various crafts to numerous planets and objects in our solar system, most of them unmanned. Despite the technological marvels involved in sending these things into space, some still managed to crash or lose contact for various reasons. It's hard to say what more you'd be able to do with unmanned vessels in space to allow them to fly consistently among planets without crashing. There are probably things even the aliens who made them didn't know or consider, which would put those vessels in precarious positions. For example, radio or magnetic interference messing with controls and other possible situations which are not entirely implausible to consider.
@codyrobitille1129
@codyrobitille1129 6 месяцев назад
The more complex the machine the more things can go wrong. You guys mean to tell me just because you are advanced that you have made errors a non reality? That's like saying we can fly to another country so why would we ever crash? Shit happens no matter how advanced you are
@StephenJohnson-jb7xe
@StephenJohnson-jb7xe 6 месяцев назад
​@@iraniansuperhacker4382not quite right. The voyager probes required a complex series of manoeuvres to slingshot them out of the solar system. Without that or another source of propulsion it is really difficult to get something out of the solar system, if solar wind was enough we wouldn't be seeing comets returning.
@GcDany
@GcDany 6 месяцев назад
Love you videos ! But please do something about your audio echo and slow down when talking.... Will be much much more pleasant to watch and listen
@danielmadar9938
@danielmadar9938 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the clear headed analysis.
@nomdeguerre7265
@nomdeguerre7265 6 месяцев назад
As usual excellent and exquisite analysis scrupulously demonstrating scientific objectivity. Anton definitely sets the standard for an objective scientific approach. On a side note it's worth noting that the Marshalls, overall, are perfectly safe today, with respect to the residual materials from those nuclear tests. The background radiation levels are well within all current acceptable standards for background radiation and radioactive fallout. There is one waste repository of interest which contains still dangerous waste materials in an entombment. Even if it were exposed to sea water, which is not considered an immediate threat based on very recent studies, it would result in no substantially dangerous wide area contamination though immediate areas might present moderate environmental problems and its immediate location would be dangerous (my primary source is studies cited in a U.S. Senate hearing in 2020). Because the entombment contains weapons program materials it will likely remain locally problematic from some time, but for the immediate future the entombment integrity seems reliable. Effectively this local site amounts to a crudely, but effectively, entombed HLWI site. When listening to the description of the study's collection methods I couldn't help but imagine the impacts to the immediate sea floor environments sampled. Although the overall area was probably too small to cause substantial negative ecological impacts the fact is we know very little about deep sea ecosystems. I wonder if the team did any kind of EIS? Anyway, I'll let my usual verbose comments stand for an algorithm comment, and conclude by saying, yet again, "Thank you, Anton!", for your wonderful work!
@bernardkealey6449
@bernardkealey6449 6 месяцев назад
Was that the “DOE Runit Dome Report to Congress” which was presented to justify not spending billions to remediate the problems which are claimed by every NGO or non-US gov entity which have made any comment on the matter? I’m not buying in one way or the other, but I’d call a DOE study on this the same as an “expert witness” report from one side of a court case as opposed to peer reviewed science free of any conflicts of interest; you get what you pay for. Storm surges during king tides already more than lapping at it…
@whatdamath
@whatdamath 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much!
@DominikPlaylists
@DominikPlaylists 5 месяцев назад
⁠​⁠@@whatdamaththe Marshal Island is a very poor argument. The samples were taken 1400 miles away from the nearest. Nearly the whole Earth population lives within 1400 miles of a past nuclear explosion. The coal ash argument ignores the extraterrestrial isotopes. Avi Loeb is exactly fighting against these types of dismissive debunking arguments that are taken as gospel. You are already convinced the technological conclusion is fake so you don’t bother to check the validity of your own arguments.
@rproctor83
@rproctor83 6 месяцев назад
Aliens: We have arrived! Aton: It's not aliens.
@mm-yt8sf
@mm-yt8sf 6 месяцев назад
if he collected the money to get the samples from a public that is very interested in extrasolar material and alien tech then that's probably the financially wise thing to include in his findings 😕
@justinc6771
@justinc6771 6 месяцев назад
So far we have: no control sample collection, no peer review, "researcher" bias to "ALIENS!" Yeah, going to conclude "more woo."
@tobiashimself
@tobiashimself 6 месяцев назад
I'm kinda glad to see Avi Loeb getting scrutiny recently. acollierastro has a good video about him too.
@thingonathinginathing
@thingonathinginathing 6 месяцев назад
Did you like how in the 1600s the Catholic church imprisoned Galileo for saying the Earth wasn't the center of the Solar System? Did you like how they publicly murdering a citizen named Giordano Bruno because he suggested there are exo-solar systems, with possible habitable worlds. Both of these men were RIGHT.
@hardywoodaway9912
@hardywoodaway9912 6 месяцев назад
🙌 Aliens
@freeforester1717
@freeforester1717 5 месяцев назад
Also found on the moon. If containing gas, of volcanic origin, if not, solar source is likely. Doug B Vogt explains their origin. No lunar volcanoes, all lunar glass spherules are novae ejectae. Nuclear origin have also different signature characteristics. Isotope signatures also differ between the types.
@viewnet1
@viewnet1 6 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@nicko8580
@nicko8580 6 месяцев назад
Hi Anton, you are great at what you do and have 1.2 m subscribers and weld a bit of clout in online science communication. Why not send your critique to Avi and let him reply. I'm sure he would respond. Now that would be interesting.
@iraniansuperhacker4382
@iraniansuperhacker4382 6 месяцев назад
well he wouldnt be able to monetize pop science videos by not telling people all the relevant facts then huh? Ive caught him straight up lying about things in videos but since most people dont take the time youtubers can lie to them and they wont know it.
@thingonathinginathing
@thingonathinginathing 6 месяцев назад
Avi is a Harvard scientist conducting real science on the UAP subject that has been so validated and corroborated in 2023 by whistle-blowers. We even had congress draft the "UAP Disclosure Amendment". Why are we still acting like the Catholic church in the 1600s? At this point I think Anton is on the Payroll of the Defense Contractors, like Senator Mike Turner who blocked the UAPDA. Because either he just sucks as a youtuber or he's paid to push disinfo.
@chuxtixalu7571
@chuxtixalu7571 6 месяцев назад
Come on Anton don’t be a hater. Why don’t you get Avi on the the show?
@filonin2
@filonin2 6 месяцев назад
No need to let a charlatan promote himself even more.
@yvonnemiezis5199
@yvonnemiezis5199 6 месяцев назад
Interesting to know about this ,thanks 👍🙄
@pisscvre69
@pisscvre69 6 месяцев назад
i want the aliens to show up and be like “pls stop this is embarrassing, okay were here now you got what you wanted”
@toma5153
@toma5153 6 месяцев назад
As wild as some of the speculation in the article is I seriously question the integrity of the research and publishing process. First, look at the huge number of scientists who were willing to have their name on this research paper. You wonder if they even read what they signed. Second, aren't these supposed to go through an independent peer review process prior to publication? Seems that didn't work very well.
@TheKlaun9
@TheKlaun9 6 месяцев назад
I've been on a handful of publications I wasn't asked to be on. You don't sign anything, there is a main author (sometimes two or so) and he gives credit to people that contributed in some way. I've been on one where I contributed just a couple of lines of code. Yeah, I got to see them beforehand, but you don't really have much of a say in it beyond what your part was (most likely you don't have any expertise beyond that anyhow) and you don't want to start some sort of drama. A couple of people are always mentioned just because they are the superiors of some other researcher. Usually being mentioned as one of the authors is seen as a good thing, this is such a rare occasion. You may see it as flawed, but everything is flawed in a way. Nobody cares what publications who is on beyond the first or second name or if it's made super obvious that you contributed in a big way and there is virtually no benefit to your name being in that list. It's just the scientist's way of what normal people mean when they say "thank you". Regarding the peer review: As far as I can tell, it's still in that stage and it may be altered still. It's a bit unfair to trash a publication before this process has finished because nobody knows everything. Maybe it's the author's first paper (as in the one that actually wrote the text) and they just don't know how to do it properly. But even senior researches are only human (they usually don't literally write the publications though). Give them the benefit of the doubt, they maybe wanted to say: Look, here is a cool possibility and just didn't get how it comes across. I've seen many young scientists despair at that, all they wanted to say was: Maybe here is something, but instead they got utterly destroyed by the peer review for not mentioning every other possibility, all those hundreds of papers vaguely related to their research and so on. It btw also heavily depends on the journal. I have to say that I do question the Integrity of a scientist that wants public attention like he does, but that's not that relevant here. There are flaws in the paper for sure, but I'm also not a fan of stating the obvious like a religious matra every paper - yes there are more possibilities, so what? Everyone knows that, why do all papers have to include that?
@knerduno5942
@knerduno5942 6 месяцев назад
Like those 50 "scientists" who signed that letter saying the Wuhan Lab leak was a "conspiracy theory"?
@someguy999
@someguy999 6 месяцев назад
I looked for the paper, and, as far as I can tell, it was only published as a pre-print. If that's correct, it hasn't undergone peer review. Another thing worth mentioning is that there are literally thousands of scientific journals out there. Some of these are essentially scams that will print pretty much anything, so long as you pay the publication fee. It wouldn't surprise me if it eventually finds itself a home in a journal somewhere.
@epiccurious3536
@epiccurious3536 6 месяцев назад
Avi Loeb just consigned himself and his claims to the dust bin of history. Some people just can't resist sensationalism.
@amatthew1231
@amatthew1231 6 месяцев назад
Bro anything that isn't Nobel price winning ground breaking science goes into the dust bin of history
@popacristian2056
@popacristian2056 6 месяцев назад
A stone of relatively small size that entered the atmosphere at such a high speed would be completely shattered at high altitude.
@Captain.AmericaV1
@Captain.AmericaV1 6 месяцев назад
*It's an amalgamation of millions of aliens poop ..... Aimed at Earth, but missed!!*
@mickmiah7605
@mickmiah7605 6 месяцев назад
I am not convinced that Avi Loeb's motivation in claiming Oumouamoua was possibly a alien spacecraft was to simply garner fame. Having a range of expert opinions to explain unexplained phenomenon and data seems to me to be both healthy and normal. It is the scientific process that is used to whittle down explanations and deliver to us some kind of truth. TY Anton for the vid.
@longlowdog
@longlowdog 6 месяцев назад
However as Anton pointed out there is a lot of available science that could have been used to scientifically support or debunk Avi's theories that has been omitted (sin of omission-sin of commission who knows ?) . For such an expensive mission, lab time would have been a very small fraction of the budget.
@duudsuufd
@duudsuufd 6 месяцев назад
There should be more scientists 'thinking out of the box'. Most take all they learned for granted. That is why we now have the 'crisis in cosmology' where they all have to struggle with the new discoveries from the James Webb Telescope.
@thingonathinginathing
@thingonathinginathing 6 месяцев назад
Whistleblowers corroborate the science that Avi is doing on the UAP subject
@longlowdog
@longlowdog 6 месяцев назад
@@thingonathinginathing then why did he do incomplete testing and what's worse, cherry pick the testing he did do? It's almost like he was rigging the results of this project. Respect comes from scientific rigor not sloppy hypothesis backed by half baked testing.
@thingonathinginathing
@thingonathinginathing 6 месяцев назад
@longlowdog Don't know what you're talking about, I've been following the Galileo Project pretty closely lmao Wait for the Paper to be published soon in 2024..
@coffeeshangarworkshop8051
@coffeeshangarworkshop8051 6 месяцев назад
And possibly my last comment, I'm reminded of all the experts that cropped up, pun intended, when the crop circle phenomena happened. Suddenly all these batshit crazy commenters were experts on what and what is not possible to do with grass. Even after it was demonstrated that some guy with a two x four made them by simply flattening the grass in front of him as he walked around... using a little loop on his head to aim himself to maintain straight lines... The heavily invested experts refused to acknowledge reality. It took a few years, but thankfully we don't hear anybody seriously still yapping about crop circles being made by aliens anymore.
@815TypeSirius
@815TypeSirius 6 месяцев назад
Loop on head what?
@Hycalon
@Hycalon 6 месяцев назад
Wow... if you believe that guys with 2x4s have been making these for decades, in about 4 or 5 hrs we have some magic beans for you..
@stever285
@stever285 6 месяцев назад
Your assuming the guy with the two X four wasn't an alien.
@iraniansuperhacker4382
@iraniansuperhacker4382 6 месяцев назад
the irony here is that the people that you are talking about were never actually able to demonstrate they were able to create the most mysterious aspect of crop circle cases. They tried multiple times but each time they were totally unable to replicate any of the weird aspects of other crop circles. You entire premise and reasoning is based on this idea that those two told dudes told a story about pole vaulting into field with wood and making the markings but thats all it was. A story. They were never able to actually replicate a single crop circle. Im not saying they are made by aliens but they are obviously being made by someone with technology much more advanced then planks of wood. Its important that you dont fall into the same thought traps the alien believer people make and its really easy to do that because unfortunately over the last 20 years skepticism has been somehow been associated with intellectualism
@nutbastard
@nutbastard 6 месяцев назад
The board and rope guys never demonstrated anything decent compared to what they claimed they could do, nor anything close to any of the examples they claimed they had produced in the past. Go watch the Why Files episode on crop circles.
@MasterTMO
@MasterTMO 6 месяцев назад
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." So many people forget this.
@iraniansuperhacker4382
@iraniansuperhacker4382 6 месяцев назад
no they dont. Claims require evidence. There is no way you can measure what an "extraordinary claims" or what "extraordinary evidence" even is. That is 100% opinion. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." is a literal logically fallacy that sagan was using to try and teach people to be able to tell the difference between good evidence and bad evidence. You are just repeating pop science talking points that you heard in the past with no reason understanding of what you are even saying.
@bonysminiatures3123
@bonysminiatures3123 6 месяцев назад
silly statement
@MasterTMO
@MasterTMO 6 месяцев назад
I did not realize this was a contentious phrase. Although from a brief search the people most offended by it seem to be the ones making the extraordinary claims. *shrug* Wonder if I'd get the same level of blowback if I used Occam's Razor instead?
@iraniansuperhacker4382
@iraniansuperhacker4382 6 месяцев назад
@@MasterTMO you are getting blow back because you are repeating things you have heard in pop science media without any real understanding of what they mean.... how do you not see this?
@iraniansuperhacker4382
@iraniansuperhacker4382 6 месяцев назад
@@MasterTMO and the irony here is that if you occams razor this shit the reality is the most likely explanation is that alien tech is getting to earth in some way. Which is double ironic since there was multiple semi official studies done by multiple governments all involving various military or STEM experts and they basically unanimously came to the conclusion that based on what we know about shit we are seeing... aliens is the only sensible explanation. Im not saying I think or believe these are aliens but the people whos job is it is to know these things all seem to think there is a non human intelligent presence of some kind near or on earth.
@GeneralSulla
@GeneralSulla 6 месяцев назад
I talk about aliens all the time but I'm only famous with the mental hospital employees..., 😂
@bonysminiatures3123
@bonysminiatures3123 6 месяцев назад
medieval mind set
@Hycalon
@Hycalon 6 месяцев назад
You made a ton of assumptions.
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