@@cedricliggins7528 usually ? What's the other 75 percent it could be pick one. Let's see pick one. First one just not a nice person. Not an honest one. It could go on and on. Sleeping with staff playing one against the other. A big lier. Oh here's one money Unbelievable oh sleeping with staff.
I cant throw too many stones. I used to play in church bands with good musicians and got a lof compliments, but would go drinking afterwards. Thank God thats over 2 years alcohol free! The praise goes to people's heads, in many years.
My SMILE as I read this! First the repentance then the sobriety. I'm so encouraged! Be blessed. Oh BTW I'm 27 years sober this year! God is faithful still 💚
@@Nontacticalboy: Sounds extremely liberal but I’m guilty of doing the same. What’s changed my mind is knowing I’m living a life that is hypocritical to the Word; living in willful disobedience; jeopardizing my soul to hell. Lord, help me.😔
I feel a way about people who don’t expose crooks and dishonorable people. Anyone who mess with children should be exposed and should never be protected, it allows for the abuse to continue.
I agree with your point but the counterpoint is that a police report needs to be made when it is suspected that children are being abused. Even if what you reported is determined to be unfounded, if you contact the police, you are protected, unless you knowingly made a false report. On the other hand, if you make accusations against a person, you decide to “put them on blast” and what you said is unfounded, and what you said damages a persons reputation, you could be sued for slander. There’s a right and a wrong way to handle things.
Yup. And the world sees this and why blame them from saying “Nope?”. Humans are weak and sinful but through, God, capable of great things. There’s a difference between someone falling and whole sale just being fake and playing people. Judgements going to be a tough time for these folks. What we sow, we reap. ….and the last remarks about kids was frightening. Better to have a milestone around your neck tossed in the ocean than to harm a child. I understand why folks are cynical about faith when these things happen. Be assured, there are LOTS of folks doing it MUCH better than this. Imperfect people talking but also walking it. The problem with”performing” vs. authentic.
I think you’re wrong. It should be the easiest thing to do once you bow to God to walk in his path. I thought it was hard to but the moment I accepted God as my king I know longer care about the things I use to do. I use to wonder how folks who call themselves Christians could go to the point of no return when they yield to their temptation. When we truly accept God you’re know longer interested on things that’s not pleasing to God. You begin living free from temptation.
My mom sang both Opera and Gospel back in the 80s. She left the music industry altogether because she said regardless of the type of music, everyone with any level of influence uses sex (of all orientations) to gate-keep. There’s artists to this day she can’t stand because she knows what they do behind closed doors.
Wow, That happened with a few friends of mine. They took a trip to Atlanta Ga. to perform with a very popular Gospel Artist. After the show they all got paid and were waiting for one of the band members. Around twenty minutes later he came to the van and they left. As they were getting on the road home the Band leader ask what took him so long. He replied, He wanted extra money from the show and the "Artist told he'd have perform a "Oral sex act "on. So I did it. From that day on none of then worked him this guy again.
You don't understand that the artist SENT her to your room to INITIATE you so that if you ever told what was going on, you would be telling on yourself.
Right cuz i wanna know. If you're speculating...why not name who u THINK it is. U didnt work for the artist so how could this be an issue? @rashadhaughton22
I've played with choirs where the members of the band and singers slept together on the road. I've also been on the road and backstage with many very famous gospel artists where I've seen bad behavior by them. Being a Christian, I believed in being holy for God's glory, but many of those famous artists were not. Sad but true
@@tosinfayanju188 I don’t think anyone claims that they’re perfect. The problem is carrying on in such sin while on “ministry” and in a way of a double life; not a single “mistake”. These people are not simply slipping up, they’re active hypocrites. If we as Christians don’t take Jesus seriously in our conduct, and carry on in our sin in a double life underneath the “holy” mask, why should the world take us seriously when we preach about sin and the gospel? There’s a reason why the media loves stories of double lives in church; because for them it shows that you can’t trust Christians to have any integrity, and it slanders the name of Christ.
Yup, sounds about right. People will be people, regardless of vocation or spiritual affiliation. Gospel artists are no exception. Either you’re serious about living a godly life or you’re not.
"He wrote us a hot check!" Been there; survived that; Lesson learned! As for the "discretion" thing: I've kept myself from trouble by teaching myself to stay out of everybody's way! I still play for artists occasionally; but after the concert, when someone asks, "Hey, where's Dennis?"... the answer is, "Halfway home!"
Exactly! If I keep to myself, and don't attend "secondary events", I can't get caught up in other people's "activities!" They can't accuse me of anything if I'm not there! A lot of times, at music events, I find a good place to just be "invisible" until it's time for me to play. I disappear quickly and discreetly after I'm done. As to overnight stays, nobody, and I mean NOBODY, gets in my room!
This is exactly why the Word of God encourages those that can and will to pray without ceasing! 🙏🏽❤️🙏🏽. We know exactly the temptation that leaders are confronted with! 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
To partake in this is SIN! 1ST TIMOTHY 5:22 "....NEITHER BE PARTAKER OF OTHER MEN'S SIN:..." KJV I'm a musician and God said for us all to be doers of HIS WORD: EPHESIANS 5:12 "FOR IT IS A SHAME EVEN TO SPEAK OF THOSE THINGS WHICH ARE DONE OF THEM IN SECRET". KJV
We shouldn't really be surprised. The scripture warns us..."Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.” Matt 7.15. It is important we stand on the truth (God's word) and not on any one's reputation. People are people. Nobody is exempt. Thanks for being integrous. Blessings.
People have to come to the realization that to some Gospel music is a genre, not a lifestyle. Most of these artist who sing Gospel, do not live it at all. That's why we have to stop looking to them for spiritual advise and leadership.
😞 God is real and He sees all. My heart actually hurts for those "gospel" artists because they don't understand how dangerous it is to play with a God who doesn't play back.
Great, great, great story telling! As a pk my parents were disappointed when I began producing r&b music. I signed with a label and the churches in my area gave me the side eye. But I would ask who their favorite gospel artist was and tell them how they were and what they were doing. They wouldn’t believe me. They wouldn’t believe they were cheating, or gay or one female artist who loves bi men. R&B was exactly like gospel except minus the hypocrisy.
I think all genres are filled with people who are doing ungodly things. The most important thing in this life is to do all I can personally to please the Lord Jesus. Nothing else matters...
@@angelbarrett4477 you're 100% correct. But the thing is most of these gospel artists put forth this facade of being so Godly, holy, and anointed when most of the time, it couldn't be further from the truth. They put themselves in a position to lead ppl to Christ but end up hypocritically preaching to the choir. My father is a gospel artist yet behind closed doors is a homosexual, an adulterer, and abused my siblings and I so badly that he lost custody of all 3 of us, got charged with child abuse, and put on the child abuser registry in our state!!! SMH!!! 😒🙄
Happy to stumble on this video tonight. In the 90's I was touring with a Gospel artist from Orange County and working in the studio as well. I never had to work harder to get paid in my life by both the artist and the label and the road with them was INSANE. And thanks for your graphic stories, that way I can bury mine. God bless.
My man, I've been in music ministry for close to 45 years, and I teach Black gospel music history & performance at a major university. I have similar stories from my touring days that, at one point, seemed to be the rule rather than the exception. One time, I scored music for a well-known artist and only got paid when I ran up on his pastor at a conference and told him I had not been paid despite having sent multiple invoices. He pulled out a roll of money as big as my fist and paid me on the spot. Definitely changed my perspective about certain gospel artists, and taught me how to be vigilant and my handle business differently.
Interesting story. Just curious...Do you incorporate any of these stories into your lessons to warn any aspiring artists in your classes about what they should look out for?
After I got out of the USAF I studied music at the University of Memphis and I had my mind set on becoming the next big gospel producer. I remember one day being invited to the most prominent gospel radio station in Memphis and meeting their number one DJ and after I told him my plans he asked “are you gay?” I said no, and he bluntly told me “well you won’t make it far in gospel”
This is the reason why most female artist are single. Old school mothers would have advise most of the married women to take their spouses with them when they went on the road OR don't go.
I don’t even listen to gospel music like I use to. I listen to more praise and worship music that’s based on The Word of God rather than listen to a bunch of artist who try so hard to be like secular artists it’s painful to listen to.
Yep I stopped listening about 7 years ago praise and worship is my go to I went back to the old 70s 80s 90s early 2000s I couldn't take it anymore...so basically trying to go back to the Heart of Worship because at the end of the day it's all about Christ Jesus🙏🏽👏🏾🙌🏽
HE SAID HE WAS A YOUNG COLLEGE STUDENT WHO WAS AFTER WOMEN, THEN WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?& I'M THINKING HE'S TALKING ABOUT KIRK. I MAY BE WRONG NOW BUT I DON'T THINK SO. COULD BE DEITRICK HADDON. ION KNO THO. 👀🙄🤷🏿♀️
How did she get that far with you? You do not appear to be naive. The moment you “felt” that something moving on your leg was the moment to stop her. Moral of your story, “it can happen to anybody.”
@@watcher62_6 Thank you. I don't want to down him for either just his being that naive at that time or simply because maybe he's not great at telling a story as the title warning and the sex story without exposure seems contradictory.
Frist thing is, we have to pray for everyone. Second you should name names. This only leads to speculation as some have tried to guess in the comments. I enjoy your comment but, please remember as we tell or give these accounts always, always remember to call for prayer. Somebody prayed us out, even as we prayed and asked God for strength to change. Thank you for sharing.
Someone doesn't know how name dropping goes. If they are involved in all this secularism, do you not think they would come with a garage of lawyers, litigation, lawsuits, and a nightmare of civil attacks. You think they will confess and apologize after taking a massive financial hit publicly? That plus he partook of the "goods" so he's complicit. He would also be bankrupt and accountable. Its a money grab and you all give into the madness. Those who still believe God directly receives your hard earned money.
@lloyd1292 names should not be released. That would be contrary to the Godly counsel given in scripture. These artists and musicians should be taken aside and confronted in private. If they don't change, then they should be confronted by their congregation. If they still don't change you count them as heathen. Exposing them publicly beyond their own congregation is gossiping which the Bible says gossipers will not enter heaven. I already know there are a lot of church goers, church musicians and artists who don't actually believe in God. They will eventually learn, but most likely not until it's too late to do anything about what happens next.
Thank you for sharing your experience, but I have to agree. There is a level of complicity by not saying who these people are. Flip the tables! Protect the innocent.
I was playing CCM music in the 80's, and opened for a few big Christian acts. I was shocked by the terrible actions and attitudes of the big famous acts. I realized why it was called the CCM Business. It was not at all ministry. 😞
I lived in Nashville in the mid 90s, hoping to get a bass gig with a Christian artist. But its all about who you know, and how pretty you are. I aint pretty, so no matter how good I was, my lack of looks kept me out of the Biz. And yes, CCM is not a ministry, its entertainment for Christians.
My son's father was a musician for a huge gospel artist for 20 years. When he shared what went on, I wept like a baby because so many people think the world of this person. I rarely, rarely listen to our gospel here in America. I found the purest form through the African spiritual artists. Their songs are pure, ushers in the Holy Spirit and it's REAL. It's sad and you have to be careful about what you listen to because their spirits enter into their songs. Its so real and the vessel and the sound is important. It can create some things that and cause unwanted spirits to attach. Its so much and this is happening so freely as if it's normal.
@@miamarshall5237 I understand why you say that. It is important that believers avoid talebearing. However, the Bible is filled with reports, not gossip, of how the people were behaving. Nothing wrong with Apostle Paul telling everyone that "Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil" or when he confronted Peter to his face. If someone had not told Paul about the man in Corinth who slept with his mother, Paul would not have written about it in his letter to get folks to repent. By the 2nd letter to Corinth the man had repented. Until I looked at this video I assumed gospel tours were going the way they should. The body of Christ does need to know that the gospel tours are not all holy so we know what to pray or preach about etc.
@arrett4477 Sister, I Love you and your scriptural knowledge, but, please, know this of God's permission; Satan is a deceiver and Satan wanted this to be known. Once you accept what I have suggested, God, give you understanding...is my prayer. Sister, ask God for the Holy Ghost; not the kind you get in a church service, but the ONE you had no expectation that you were even about to receive; as it was in the day of Pentecost.
This is very sad. Not all those is the gospel arena are like this, but certainly there are plenty of people who have these issues. True people of faith need to speak up against such things. Glad you escaped and have made a good life for yourself. The check was just the icing on the cake.
Here the deal. True people of faith do. I've been hearing it as long as I can remember. But it mostly done in your small neighborhood churches. I have never heard this preached from a Televised Mega-Church.
My dad traveled with singing groups 60s -70s. He was in a Gospel singing group. He knows several of these people and past artists. My dad said this was going on back then. He said it was known but not spoken on. He said the hotels they stayed in hold many secrets. He is not surprised.
Same can be said, about learning some church folks. It will break your heart, how they play with the Lord. It will have you scratching your head, and asking. Dear Jesus, is there anybody, serious about you?
@@lizet3more wow, I love a person who stands their ground 😻. she's better if she's not messing with "young boys" like she said one of the hosts/judges are doing. It one thing to have a nasty attitude as a celebrity vs being a pedophile.
You’d be amazed what goes down at these Full Gospel conferences after conferences. The “sneaking and freaking”, networking for arranged marriages for looks, and hotel room key switches? It’s horrible. It’s a mess. To call it secular is an understatement! Gospel by day, for the streets by night.
I guess I'm not too amazed. I remember being told by someone that at his denomination's annual "Holy Convocation", there's a lot of unholy stuff that goes down back at the hotel. But we know God is going to let the wheat and the tares grow together until it's time for the harvest and the separating.
But what he's not saying is that "he" got up out of the bed💯...that "he" stopped her from stroking his leg💯...that "he" stopped her from giving him head💯...that "he" didn't get an erection but "allowed" her to continue and NOW has the audacity to say he could never view her mouth the same again💯...FOLKS the truth of the matter which includes him not seeing himself as the same💯
Listen guys. We have to keep ourselves right even in the midst of those who are supposed to be right. We can’t answer for these guys when we go before the Lord. We can only answer for our own actions. Don’t let the bad part of an apple keep you from eating apples all together. Peace and Blessings!
You met a real person with real problems the bigger the river the bigger the drought! With great success comes great responsibility sadly most can’t handle the spotlight without pride of life,lust of the eyes, and flesh arising. Pride will always lead to a fall and so will gossip!❤
One of the worst experiences I’ve had as a young singer was hearing the well known group we were traveling with cussing during the drive! (The drive for those that don’t know was the fast loud shouting music). The people were shouting and hollering while the group were singing random cuss words. Then they laughed about it backstage. I was very young and so shocked! The audience seemingly never knew.
Been there. I picked up a lot of bad habits from gospel musicians. And it’s scary how fast they can turn on the holiness, then zap!, back to being on the down low.
That's why I chose not to travel that path, and it was a decision. Not bragging, but I'm a badd drummer, and I could have traveled that path - gospel or secular. I told God that I wanted to have a family, be a husband, father, and have stability.... and health insurance. Drummers choose that path for the prestige and resume. I'm glad I chose my path, and God blessed it
By not disclosing who this was, you are allowing others to walk into this and be taken advantage of. The Bible says we are to call them out and mark them.
Let me know when you get your RU-vid page up and running so that you can call out everyone in your life who is not living according to the Bible. Because they need to be marked.
My cousin told me the same thing. After being in the studio and seeing what they do behind the scenes. It forever changed her viewpoint on people. And that was about 20+ years ago.
@@arrjee9474 him prancing proud about confessing it in public, like some sort of badge of honor, like his nudity contributed to the creative process. He soiled his "testimony."
I think he spoiled his testimony for you but I believe there is a lot to be view biblical with that statement. I look at is as if he is willing to write music in the presence of God naked and not ashamed (withholding nothing). Too many times the church we want to give God everything that we view as “good” about us and “hide” our flaws. God values us flaws and all. The Bible speaks of a pearl of great price (that is us), heaven bankrupted it self to buy us back. The interesting thing about a pearl is the flaws of the pearl is what makes it beautiful. I believe someone who can give God everything like that is the perfect witness for God. Mainly because God uses flawed people who don’t mind being completely themselves with God to reach flawed people.
@@jeraedavis9529 ofcourse God sees us naked. He knows us. But we honor him by covering up our shame. Because our nakedness represents our shame. Which is why Adam and Eve hid in the garden after the fall, and God in his mercy made a covering for them. Ofcourse we are all flawed. But we so not deliberately sin and dishonor God and then claim that He will receive that offering.
I’m not surprised. I’m not even shocked. Every genre of the music industry is subject to the same music industry stuff. I had to learn that for myself and govern myself accordingly.
you know what. I just realized that even if you don't say the name of the person, you can think about what could happen if you are not careful with your behavior. I just started realizing that if people took some time to study the word, and took ten seconds to slow down from the perverse thoughts that they think and allow the lord to speak in the gap between the unholy thoughts you do have and the sane part of yourself, you will be able to allow the lord to take the throne of your heart and diminish your unholy thoughts. I appreciate this vid terrance, more so as a reflection of what I could become if not careful. Shalom, and peace. Leo Pena
One of your best videos and so so so true. As a Radio DJ on both clubs and on the radio I have done different events with Gospel artists and have toured with a Gospel group. Let me tell you...first hand....I was super surprised. I grew up in the church and my father was a minister but I did DJ in the clubs for several years. So like yourself, Im thinking " Mmm...I gotta make sure I fly right being with these guys"...don't need no scandals or problems ................................... There is a blank space for a reason.....I saw it all! Some of these Gospel artists or much worse than the R&B and Hip Hop people. Touring is a way to "get out of the house" and I've seen dudes hit everything that wasn't nailed down. I've also seen "Polly Purebread types" doing things that would have your mouth dropped down to the floor. Drinking, Plenty of that, and it goes on and on. I remember my Program director of a station was hosting a Gospel concert in the city. MAJOR gospel artists. The concert was sold out. Went off without a hitch. At the end of the concert....(or as they say "program" because we aren't doing it for "show") The headliner decided to "raise an offering" because we all had been blessed with this wonderful experience. Now keep in mind....people had paid anywhere from $25 - $50 for tickets. (maybe more). The offering raised about $50,000 or so. So the Gospel Artist, my Program Director, and the Promoter went in the back and SPLIT the "offering". That was a "bonus" or as they call it "the blessing"! Remember that was on TOP of the ticket sales that were already purchased. So I am saying all of that to let you know that everything you laid out is not only true but it goes to another level!
People who tell these stories without naming names--- positioning themselves as if they are not participating in the bad behavior they're highlighting---- are withholding names so they can still participate in the industry and not damage future opportunities for themselves. If you REALLY mean what you say and want to condemn these behaviors-- you would CALL OUT the names of people who are misrepresenting God, or even hurting people so there can be accountability and change. If you're not trying to do anything about it, then keep it yourself instead of making these videos feigning shock and concern.
No. Disagree. You both are only mad because your flesh is curious. You want the tea, period. And it’s only to tickle your ears. If he reveals incriminating details, it should only be to authorities who can do something about it. Not to lovers of gossip. It’s good he says something so that the parents of young adults who want to participate in these tours can be aware and intercede if necessary
@@everydaychristianapologeti2614 And I disagree with you, respectfully. I didn't say he had to say it to US. I didn't say he needed to say it on You Tube. What I meant was needed to speak up in those spaces WHERE those things were going on and to the people who could do something about it. THAT'S where it matters. Why didn't he speak up so that accountability could be had where it was happening? He claims to know about little KIDS being hurt? I could care less about "tea..." HELP THOSE KIDS, those people being hurt. You don't gotta tell me, just DO SOMETHING. Seeing something wrong and doing nothing and doing nothing about it is WRONG itself. Talking about "like and subscribe!" That's crazy.
It doesn't sound like he's trying to make himself out to be innocent. He already alluded to his mind not being in the right place before going in. Lesson learned.
MAAAAN!!! Your story brings back a lot of painful memories for me also!! Because of my experience playing with a LOT OF MAJOR GOSPEL ARTISTS, I no longer play ANY gospel music. Some of these artists are WORSE than the R&B/Hip Hop Funk artists!!!!
If you want the job, you can HAVE IT!!! I'm done!! I can still use my gift and I'm still using it....just not with ANY gospel artist or anyone who plays ANY type of christian music!!!!@@kinaxixe
Nah bruh. NO ONE can make me shut my gifts down because of human folly. Just redirect your talents man. God gave them to you to glorify Him and draw those who will respond. Don't let the enemy stifle you. Rise up in Jesus name!!!
@@KJinTX , Again...I'm DONE WITH PLAYING WITH ANY GOSPEL ARTIST OR GROUP!! I can use my talents elsewhere, get paid, and go home....no drama!! Less stress and more peace!! You can have my spot!!!
So you went along with the woman, didn't stop her advances and then you're calling her out??! If you thought what happened was inappropriate, why not also comment on your part in all of this? You realized it was wrong, went ahead with it and then went ahead with the tour anyway?
Thank you, my brother, for being candid about your experiences, and I pray God's blessings on your gifts and ministry. This is why a lot of us are leaving the black churches on the count of these behaviors out if si called saved and holy persons. God's Speed!
This comment may not go over well but can we talk about it?! Is this a safe space? Brother i love what you are doing on your channel but i think you may have missed a moment to go beyond the exposure and share God's principles. Brother, I hear you but this video comes off one sided. No lesson at the end? No repentance on your part just exposure?! Is this the new come up for getting views? I asked respectfully . What's your real intentions? I do not want to assume anything this is why I'm respectfully asking you a question. The lessons may seem obvious but maybe not to especially new believers or young people like yourself at the time who are nieve to situations like this. I dont want to come off judgemental but i do want practice holiness, set apart as God intended us to be. Hold on let me take this out of my eye...Brother where is the accountability on your part? Are we just going to blame it on the age? Although immaturity and inexperience comes to play in this situation we still need to repent...no? Brother can we examine ? Here are a few questions for you and anyone who been in this situation.... respectfully, no need to lie to me. Be honest with self. We all know you cannot lie to the Holy Spirit. Scripture tells us to examine self so here we go...self examination questions: Why did you let the girl in your hotel room (especially if your roommate was sleeping)? Why didn't you end the conversation after she said she was just checking in you both? Why were you sitting on the bed together? No lounge area in room? You did say it was a nice hotel. Why did you lean back and position yourself to receive (I know what you said but again, be honest) Why did you stop her and asked her to leave as soon as she touched you the first srcond or third time? Why didn't you question her motives or call her out lovingly? Why werent you honest with your feelings and say sister this is a bad idea? Why are you really telling us about this experience? What do you want us to take away from this video? Lastly, things could have went far different like false accusations that could have ruined your life brother but by Gods mercy snd grace it didn't. You are one of the blessed ones but others experiences turned out completely different. Brother, your channel is amazing. I appreciate the musician pay rate video. Great content but this right here... brother you can use this opportunity to do more than exposed but share the gospel by sharing your experiences with others as a warning but an opportunity to share the gospel otherwise, whats the point?! I know this is your channel but i see you doing so much more than just exposing. There are lessons in this video and we should not assume people should know them. Thank you for reading. God bless you for real for real. biblesnapshots dot com
You know, you should really be ashamed of yourself for what you have stated and implied here!!! The story in this video basically speaks of sexual assault (yes, men get sexually assaulted by women too), and your response is to question the intentions of the victim???!! You want to say that a very young, very unsuspecting, perhaps naive man should have known better than to simply be nice to someone who was a part of the group, who seemed to be a nice, respectable person from the conversation had earlier that day, and claimed to be a Christian... to allow them in the room and have a conversation with them???! You want to question why the person who is being sexually assaulted and in shock over the whole act....why they let it happen??? And to add insult to injury, you want to say that the victim of all this is wrong and needs to repent???!! This is not only non-compassionate and non-empathetic, both of which are qualities you would think that Christians should have, but it is also sickening! What's next... Are you gonna question the little boy's intentions that gets sexually assaulted by catholic priests???
@@TerenceFisher1why do you negatively label anyone that disagrees with your video? It seems as if anyone that has come against you or challenged your thought pattern on your experience, you condemn them .
@@JayWilliamsTP Thank you and further more maybe I'm naive but the way the story was told I didn't read victim at all. Even if I did his response is revealing especially the part about victim shaming and Catholic priest.... I would never condom sexual assault male or female. Even if I was wrong his response would not be so aggressive and manipulative.
What I got from his story is that he was in disbelieve to what was happening and the way she talked with him was deceiving and manipulative. He didn't know better and he's telling the dark side of what happens with so called Christians. And yes, age is definitely something to blame, because age comes with experience, and maturity. That leads to be more accountable for their actions when they're older. I believe you're overcomplicating this whole story. And self examination questions to a 20 year old? Answering those question means nothing in this particular case. Didn't you experience life as young teenager? Or did you forget how the mind of the young works? What do you mean otherwise whats point? He chose to make this video about exposing. Should he stop making music covers on piano videos on his other channel to start sharing the gospel? Also, where you practice "holiness" since your teenage years? if so, how many people you think was able to do that? I sure believe you wrote this all out of love with "respectfully this" "respectfully that" but remember that you may come as ignorant, or someone who believe they're above every one else and "suggest" what they should do better, otherwise "what's the point." This is a common behavior in Christianity. This is one of the many factors I left the church.
We started to Tour with The Swan Silvertones and James Cleveland with his Singers. Only did one show. What we saw at the After Party would question the sanity of these people. Drug use Prostitutes and Homosexuality was....Hell I can't explain it.
I was literally thinking today on how I saw a video of The Swan Silvertones singing, and how the lead singer jumped out at me as a total Fake..I could tell completely he wasn't about God...I never really knew this group..it was a very old video, but I could clearly discern it...just sad and disappointing
I use to want to be a famous worship leader but that has slowly changed after some of the stuff I’ve experienced in church on a team and then attempting to lead at a certain place. It m glad God gave me grace to step away and figure that out. Thank you for sharing this story.
I’m personally not surprised by this story at all. In retrospect, I can see how fortunate I truly was to not have made it deeper into this type of circle as far as the industry is concerned. I’d say this though. Although I respect your decision to not name names, I would venture that people feel empowered to continue with this type of unchecked behavior because no one holds them accountable. What you call integrity, they call discretion.
Dude was totally complicit in this behavior... from when he slid under the covers (signaling) to accepting the "circus tricks." He's spilling his guts and acting like he's holier-than-thou because he's pissed one of the artist's checks bounced (which is legit). These tell-all people... especially those who go along for the "ride" have an agenda.
@@jmcfadden2051he’s not saying names because that word discretion matters. Why should he be messy and name names?? Would you want someone to put your secret sins on front so everyone could google it??
I think you missed everything he said. He admitted that he was of the mindset to attract girls through being a musician. He thought that by being on tour with gospel artists he would be safe from worldly influences so he desired to live right but when the girl told him all the tea it literally opened his eyes to the fact that gospel artists are the same as secular artists. Also he never said he was better than anyone nor is he making it seem as if he is. This is his admission of being HUMAN and susceptible to fleshly desires. As far as it goes to being stiffed in pay from the artist he has all right to be upset. If you do work for someone and they agree to pay you but they DON’T then your anger is justified. He also showed restraint by not naming them because he has all rights to do that as well because it calls out poor business practices on the artists behalf which is ungodly as well.
I'm glad you didn't mention the name because it's reminder for all of us Christians to use discernment. One thing I've learned is that going to see Christians in person can sometimes affect my view of them on TV. I'm talking about some of the big name TV evangelist. You can observe some things in person that you can't on TV.
That's exactly what I got! There really seems to be some residual pleasure in even repeating the details. Plus, it just seems unnecessary when you're not exposing the people who you say are leading others astray and/or are corrupting the word of God when you're implying THAT'S your main concern and are standing up here to give a warning. It really doesn't make sense.
That’s why Le’Andria Johnson went off online … she was sick of it and disheartened by the fakery and abuse. My God my God you gave gifts to bring you glory not play in the devils pig pen… Lord have mercy on them.
I think it’s Greg O’Quinn the man that gave the world “I told the Storm” in the 90’s. It was very very popular to the point where ALL churches were singing it back then AND praise dancers were dancing to it. The only other female lead Songs of the 90’s that were created by Male gospel artists/Choir directors Were “the storm is over now” by Kirk Franklin And “calling my name” by Hezekiah Walker. But then he said “we never heard about dude after that” which made me think about one hit wonder Greg 🤔🤔 just a hypothesis
I know OF a Pastor who is now known as A Bishop if I’m not mistaken. But he straight up took advantage of a lot of people who helped him to make his popular song, and never ever paid them. He went on to tour preach and sing. NOW HE HAS A MOST SUFFERING DISEASE WITH HIS KIDNEY’S! BUT GOD!
All that greed 🤦🏿♀️ and people forget that material things you can't take with you when you leave this earth. Why don't people understand that what we have is only temporary, I wish people would stop doing others dirty. Now look at him
This is a great video, Terence. I don''t listen to Gospel Music. I listen to "Classic Rock, Soul and R&B" Because it tells a story. And when Men were Men.And Women were real women. And after watching this video. I thought of the song"We Are American Band" And you being on the road as a young man. The "mess" is bad now. I planned to buy another bass guitar. And a friend has a guitar. And we plan to play"Supper's Ready". By Genesis. And 52 years ago. A pastor who heard the song. Was so moved. That he asked the band to play at the church.
I remember there was an artist I looked up to. I sang at his church, and one of the ministers introduced me to him. Next thing, he was messaging me on FB and eventually gave me his personal cell. After a while, I noticed we would only talk when he was driving to pick his kids up from school or if his wife was traveling. Seemed weird. He personally gave me free vip invite to his recording. Then we started talking about one of my favorite pastimes - working out. That's when it went left. First he started with coded language. It seemed off but this guy had literally number 1 hits out on billboard and he was my friend. I felt lucky and uncomfortable. It wasn't too long before during a phone conversation he told me how he wanted to sit in my lap and ride me like a stallion. When I wasn't receptive, he turned it like I was stalking him. So I went off on him. We never spoke again. But fellow musicians and singers constantly told me of his habit of running sexcapades when he traveled as a solo artist without his group. Complete let-down. Still can't listen to his music.
When you don’t speak out and expose sin within the church then you are coming in agreement with it. Why wasn’t anybody praying and using the authority God has given to his true believers and followers. I’m learning it’s a lot of Christians living double minded, prideful and carnal. You know spirits still transfer regardless if you break contact. If we don’t repent everyday, read Gods word, repent, pray and submit to Gods authority the enemy is still in control. Ask me him to reveal truth until you so your not of the world. I was sinner and I’m getting better everyday but the first thing I had to do was get out of disobedience and get into obedience and faithfulness. I had to get my mind cleansed because the enemy likes to play mind games, I had to give my heart to God by forgiving everyone who ever did anything to me and also asking for forgiveness for everything I ever did. When God showed me my true self without him I felt such shame and I cried like baby but I also released it and God forgave me. The enemy only has the power we give it but once you tell the devil no and continue to tell him no he will flee you. Now you could cuss me out and I wouldn’t go left and match energy but instead I would pray because I understand pain and hurt manifest in many different ways. Stay bless and I hope this helps your walk with God. Put your trust in him only.
@ShavonaHooper I spoke out in my home country among the small community of singers and directors of influence. That's where a lot of his "adventures" took place. He preyed on young, impressionable men and women. Needless to say, to my knowledge, he is not a welcome figure there anymore. I didn't speak up in the US because I didn't want to become a part of a "story." Here, stuff can get real ugly, real quick - even if you are an innocent bystander.
After her hand first touched your leg, that should have been your clue to escort her to the door. The fact that she got that far holding a normal conversation and you let her, means that you had your own set of problems. Why tell all this?
I would've stood up and said G'nite while escorting her to the door. Then again, I would've never allowed her into my room in the first place. "May I see your room?" "Why?" my roommate is asleep and I'm getting ready for bed.
It was an eye opener for you(and many others). I learned abt how ANYBODY can lead a deceptive life early in my life. Just by listening&watching my relatives, neighbors friends,church folk and what they'd say&do. #WiseBeyondMyYears
To all those saying I stopped playing gospel music because this or that gospel artiste messed up, its like saying I stopped being a Christian because I met hypocritical Christians. Jesus Himself prophesied this. So get serious with your walk with God.
Not touring or playing with unsaved folks is what Gid would have him do. He continues to make music, but he does it solo; why does that bother so many?
I subscribed after you kept it real. I've been doing this for 40 years and playing gospel made me decide to go to church, but I limit playing professionally for the church. People are into protecting their "mental health." I learned I had to protect my mental spiritual health.
Sorry this happened to you, Terence. Just wondering the reasons why these two bad incidences occurred. Was the female that went to your hotel room an arrangement by the big artist that wrote you a bad check? Maybe the gospel artist already planned to write you a bad check and not pay you but in order to keep you from coming after him with a lawsuit he arranged that gal to go to your room to keep you quiet? If you would have came after the artist with a lawsuit for the bad check all he would have to do is use that singer to falsely accuse you of SA, etc. Then this would be public information and ruin your reputation and embarrass you. I say this respectfully, and I like your channel - there were a lot of mistakes from all three of you guys. And of course this is not a reflection of ALL gospel artists. I worked with Rebecca St. James and Brenton Brown and they were very professional and strong believers and practiced what they preached (from what I saw).
I was on a worship team a long time ago, the leader and one of the lady vocalists were involved (while being married to other people!), when this became known, the pastor dismissed them, (to his credit). “By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.“ II Peter 2:3 NKJV
I Totally agree, Been there I seen it all I've told people you only see what's on Stage the finished product, you just don't know what goes on behind the Curtains. I've been out the Gospel industry for over 35 years Thank GOD THE Nightmare is over
Be discerning about who you follow and why you follow. My ex- husband was lacking in moral integrity to say the least. He shared with me that members of a well known back in the day gospel group that did a concert in a nearby city solicited chosen women to come to their hotel rooms after the concert. One of the ex-husband’s girlfriends detailed to him all that she experienced with the lead singer of the gospel group so he thought it was fascinating to share this information with me and add that all the members of the gospel group were married. Unfortunately our culture has slipped into a done in the dark …mentality. If Black people held our people accountable we would be better at dealing with the things that are not right that go on in our communities.
Exactly!!!! I’m struggling at the fact that he allowed her to do those things to him. Like you were just as Christian as her and you knew right from wrong. It’s almost like you are blaming her solely when you are just as guilty sir. The Lord gave you discernment while you were on the bus and you ignored it. Nothing he has said edifies the body or brings glory to God it all felt Like gossip.
That's what I was thinking! He went there with the same intentions as them and now he's bashing them asif he's any better! He really is just another scummy artist lol
It was a way to Confess he his sin. Repent my brothers for the second coming of Christ is soon to take place … confession of sin will be needed to Enter the kingdom of heaven. ( even if it is in a flimsy way but let it out so we can pray for one another in the name Of Jesus Christ ! Amen.
