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Conversation between Edward Said and Daniel Barenboim, part 1 

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63-minutes conversation between Edward Said and Daniel Barenboim in Weimar (Germany), 1999
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Daniel Barenboim and the West-Eastern Divan Orchestra
Since its inception, EuroArts has a long tradition of producing documentaries about music and the people behind the music. Award-winning films like "BIue Note", "Gozaran" - "Time Passing" or "El Sistema" have interwoven personal stories with historical and social developments, and have shown the extraordinary passion of musicians reaching tor their loftiest goals in both Iife and art.
For more than two decades, EuroArts has enjoyed a relationship with Maestro Daniel Barenboim. One of my proudest moments as the founder of the company was when director and producer, Paul Smaczny, and ZDF executive, Anca-Monica Pandelea, stepped onto the stage to receive an Emmy® tor the wonderful film "Knowledge is the beginning" about the West-Eastern Divan - a project more than five years in the making.
lt all began in 1996 when during a production Daniel Barenboim told me that he was thinking about doing something to help the situation between Palestine and Israel - he felt that it was important for him to reach out into areas beyond music. What started as a vague idea became clearer after the Maestro's intense discussions with Edward Said.
Barenboim's initiative first bore fruit in 1999 - fittingly, in Weimar, as the orchestra that came out of the program was named the West-Eastern Divan Orchestra, after a phrase by Goethe. Nobody would have thought, then, that this project, begun as an interesting experiment, would gain worldwide fame as music and peace ambassadors. In a later conversation with Edward Said (this video), Daniel said that he was taken by the fact of how equally talented these young musicians were, despite their very different backgrounds.
EuroArts first produced a short film about the West-Eastern Divan Orchestra and then decided to follow up its progress when the project moved to Seville, another historically significant location. Numerous events followed: concerts in Grenada and Geneva we had the pleasure to record for TV and DVD; sad moments when a concert planned for Cairo had to be moved to Italy for political reasons. The orchestra regularly toured around the world and became well known to any lover of classical music. Never, ever was there a moment where music and politics got mixed up - Daniel Barenboim's determination to create not just a good but excellent orchestra always came first.
The discussions among the musicians - coming from such drastically different backgrounds - proved to be not just interesting for outsiders, but also mind-opening tor everybody on the outside or inside. The orchestra was no melting pot - there was no intention to "change people's minds" -but, in providing the musicians with a common goal in music, it has done much to heal some of the wounds and to bridge the cultural and political divide. Living together on tour, and sharing a common desire to obtain the best for the orchestra, the musicians found any impulse for fighting kept in check. There were moments of anger as well, when conversations in front of rolling cameras were interrupted and grew into heated discussions. Nevertheless, as soon as it came to making music, it worked. There was one common goal: to play well, to deliver the best possible sound, and - in my humble opinion - to please the Maestro.
Sadly, the second mastermind behind the project, Edward Said, passed away in 2003. Daniel Barenboim decided to carry on and has since only increased the range of activities of the Barenboim-Said-Foundation and of the West-Eastern Divan Orchestra, which has become a staple of the world's concert schedules. The Foundation has started a music-oriented kindergarten in Berlin and another in Ramallah. Maestro Barenboim is even planning for a permanent home for his activities in the centre of Berlin close to the Staatsoper. Despite his claims that what he does has nothing to do with politics, Barenboim has been more active in his cause than ever.
All of us at EuroArts would like to wish the best of luck to the orchestra and the Foundation; we are grateful to have been able to produce these wonderful programs. lt is our hope that you will not just enjoy watching them, but will share in our deep appreciation for what the West-Eastern Divan Orchestra truly means.
Bernd Hellthaler (Founder and Chairman of EuroArts Music International GmbH)
#EuroartsBarenboim

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Комментарии : 47   
@prammar1951
@prammar1951 3 года назад
Edward Said is the hero we need now.
@mrnarason
@mrnarason 8 месяцев назад
Yes now more than ever
@mozartsbumbumsrus7750
@mozartsbumbumsrus7750 Месяц назад
AND John Pilger!
@mozartsbumbumsrus7750
@mozartsbumbumsrus7750 Месяц назад
And Wilhelm Furtwängler also!
@JazzfireflyNZ
@JazzfireflyNZ 4 года назад
The world needs more minds, souls and friendships like these men. And love the closing joke of Berenboim, in jest about one of the central pillars of Said's academic writings: "it was my duty to dis-orient them."
@747rkl
@747rkl 3 года назад
HAHAHA yeah i loved it too!!
@mikefullermikefuller4711
@mikefullermikefuller4711 6 лет назад
Don't you just love these intellectual types!
@platero814
@platero814 6 месяцев назад
What we see today should make everyone of us realise how increidibly valuable is an initiative like this one
@AdVO1980
@AdVO1980 7 месяцев назад
wow. what a treat to listen to this. I love how expressive Edward Said is. Its so refreshing to hear him in conversation with a professional from a different discipline.
@ZAIDHAMDANY
@ZAIDHAMDANY 8 лет назад
Both are great
@mustafakandan2103
@mustafakandan2103 8 месяцев назад
I can understand why Daniel Barenboim is to this day so affected by Edward Said. I don't believe Barenboim fully understood Said politically, but is definitely enchanted by his intellectual charms.
@Chicag343
@Chicag343 6 месяцев назад
every time when I listen to Edward said always cry
@NikoHL
@NikoHL 8 месяцев назад
TY for posting this wonderful conversation between 2 good people.
@pannie1000
@pannie1000 6 лет назад
Two great men in their field. Thank goodness for their intellect. If only the world would take on board what they believe in. The world would be a far, far better place and hopefully peace would reign.
@akikoyanagisawa3916
@akikoyanagisawa3916 4 года назад
These interigent people' s vision and passion can change the world. It is sad that Said passed away.
@mrnarason
@mrnarason 9 лет назад
11:00 I remember a story from a book on Beethoven on how played a played in piece for some friends and how the friend say this great piece of music he just played would be lost. Beethoven replied by saying it is not lost and decided to replay it note by note.
@adlg4234
@adlg4234 5 лет назад
And that goes with any high intensity moment. You can't get it back, because the period has ended, but what's good with music, is that you can always replay the piece.
@reinfeddedewolff5565
@reinfeddedewolff5565 7 месяцев назад
🎆THANK YOU VERY "MUCH"/ FOR THIS CAPTIVATING😮/ STILL END/ TWENTHIEST CENTURY🌟/HELD/CONVER- 🇪🇺SATION/ ABOUT MUSIC🌟/ BETWEEN 🌷THE TWO FOUNDERS😚 OF THE MAGNIFICENT/ MEDITERA- NEAN🌷/ MULTI-CULTI/ WEST 🌷EASTERN/ DIVAN/ ORCHESTRA/ AS "SUCH"🎆.
@voraciousreader3341
@voraciousreader3341 Год назад
To comment on just a tiny bit of this wonderful conversation….in my life, I have found that if there is a paradoxical element to any concept or belief, then I know it is the right interpretation. I can’t come up with an example, of course, and it’s too difficult to explain, but music also presents itself to me as a paradox, which is why I loved playing and singing with other people.
@alfiecdyson
@alfiecdyson 8 месяцев назад
A paradox is where the inherent symmetry of universe asks of us to relinquish our ‘logic’ and trust our faith. You’re right, music is the epitome!
@essaubeid721
@essaubeid721 5 лет назад
Very nice
@gerardbedecarter
@gerardbedecarter 3 года назад
Most interesting.
@m.a.3322
@m.a.3322 8 лет назад
16:00 very interesting. The language we think in.
@nelbanelba6998
@nelbanelba6998 2 года назад
Cuál es la razón que tantos hispanos parlantes no podamos disfrutar de éstas entrevistas. Quisiéramos solo que los subtítulos sean en español....
@lenablochmusic
@lenablochmusic 7 лет назад
This process reminds me of European musicians trying to play jazz. Some will remain on "translating" stage, but some are speaking the language as their own. Fascinating. BTW, Israeli jazz musicians also prefer to leave Israel for good and go to Europe or US.
@charlesmugleston6144
@charlesmugleston6144 4 года назад
Beautiful - Unity amidst diversity - "Truth is ever expressed in paradox" just like Edward FitzGerald's world famous mystical masterpiece The Ruba'iya't of Omar Khayya'm. Charles Mugleston Omar Khayyam Theatre Company.
@phanx0m924
@phanx0m924 4 года назад
Clap, clap, clap...
@mikefullermikefuller4711
@mikefullermikefuller4711 6 лет назад
I think I am a bit bisexual. I certainly think that Edward Said was a lovely, intelligent and good looking man.
@doublethink6996
@doublethink6996 6 лет назад
checkered shirt with checkered suit tho
@RedfilmMovies
@RedfilmMovies 6 лет назад
U gay bro
@bobmcgahey1280
@bobmcgahey1280 6 лет назад
edward was very sick here--in his final illness
@gamingwithslacker
@gamingwithslacker 3 года назад
I find his voice very beautiful
@voraciousreader3341
@voraciousreader3341 Год назад
“They are all from the Orient, so it is my duty to dis-orient them!”
@paulturner1973
@paulturner1973 Год назад
Said says that people understand music differently from how they understand a poem - because people can dislike an idea in a poem, whereas in music the same aversion is not possible [because, he implies, musical ideas are not parts of people’s lives in the way that stuff mentioned in a text does evoke an experience-based response]. I humbly beg to differ… I could have a tremendously powerful response to a musical idea, regardless of its context. I could dislike a sound from early music as much as I immediately fall happily under the spell of a sound from modern music. In other words, I find his distinction completely wrong…
@jimjiminy76
@jimjiminy76 5 лет назад
Great dialogue but...what's up with the height differential in seating - looks ridiculous lol!
@monacojerry
@monacojerry 2 месяца назад
I believe that deep down, they were cousins. I mean this intellectually, metaphorically, and genetically. They were close cousins intellectually and probably distant cousins genetically. (This is my political program.)
@erpollock
@erpollock 2 года назад
Said has a totally American delivery. No accent.
@UnbeknownToHis
@UnbeknownToHis 5 лет назад
I don't think that Barenboim understood 3/4 of what Edward said was talking about
@TheGarryq
@TheGarryq 5 лет назад
This was the year Said and Barenboim founded the Western-Eastern Divan Orchestra, the Barenboim-Said Akademie funds up to 90 students. The two knew and understood each other. It would be pointless designing a conversation to destroy the work for which they were both working.
@ahmedbutt1975
@ahmedbutt1975 7 лет назад
what as boring g g g g
@ranashair2312
@ranashair2312 5 лет назад
Ahmed Butt really hahaha
@mohammadshahade8753
@mohammadshahade8753 3 года назад
Ahmed Butt Your butt is the only boring thing here..
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