@@jaznabooker6993 she was talking about the guy at 9:41 genius lmfao that fat guy is the one who made the joke and had the caption. She wasn't talking about the guy who responded 🙄
I can’t with ppl like that 😂😂😂 always the chubby guys judging chubby women and always the ugly dudes judging which women are ugly 😂😂😂 ppl like that need to work on themselves first before they judge who is cute and who isn’t 😅
I’m not offended by anything in the video. I see the points they’re saying; I’d be dumb to blatantly ignore it. It’s true that some folk not fully ready for this conversation, I will agree with that. Some people get hella defensive when these type of topics come up and that’s on both sides. 🤷🏽♂️ These conversations will continue to happen as long as these issues (such as colorism, etc.) continue to exist. Instead of being annoyed of these conversations, let’s be annoyed by what causes these conversations and find solutions to fix them. 🤷🏽♂️
The points that most of them are saying are opinions, not fact, and this world became so soft that opinions have to be treated on thin ice cuz you dont want to hurt feelings, fuck that most of these people and just hurt and looking for something to point the finger towards or they just live in their own bubble aside reality. First clip talking about interracial relationships are "very common", that just false, people always date within their race at an extremely high number. People just spew physcobabble LMAO and that clown that was "passionate" said a whole bunch of vague shit and used a crazy ass example of BLM as the norm, he was right about some shit but anybdy that has no valuee to your life is getting kicked outthats just commomn sense, if not, ur sacrificing your peace for a relationship
Yes this creates division, but we also can't come together as black people until we take accountability. This is the sweeping under the rug act we always do. We can't move forward and resolve the issue if we don't address it
@@kingmerck1538 exactly we discuss it all the time lol. It’s literally the internet’s favorite topic of “black women/men need to do xyz”. I could name several dozen RU-vid channels where people have made careers with this back and forth between black women and men.
Black men And black women just need to stick together period because the whole work is stacked against us and we’re all eachother has. it doesn’t help when black men be colorist and bash black women and it doesn’t help when black women aren’t able To defend themselves
I'm with you Dee, everyone's experience is different. This people do make some point but others need to stop bashing each other. Just go out there and date who you want. It's no one's business what the other person's preference is.
@@BlackGirlLovesAnime6 you're replying to every thread on a video about black men but somehow somehow you don't care for them. The irony! You exhibit hatred for all bm out of spite. Sorry not sorry!
I agree that people get a kick of bashing the other gender it shouldn't be like that. We should be uplifting each other because at the end of the day even though we are two different genders we can relate to each other very well in most situations. We need each other.
That first guy was trippin. He had a small point but nigga I cant save the world! I support the woman around me and that’s the most I can do. He gotta chill.
@@kingmerck1538 I think that comment is borne of general statistics on black households. Idk if it's "most," but it tends to be more on average than other races in America. Buuuuut there are a lot of external forces that shaped that picture.
Honestly dee’s commentary at the end hit the nail on the target. While there are very prevalent issues within the black community, a lot of issues are sensationalized on the internet. Like yes we definitely need to work toward making progress, but in my real life I’m not out here being an advocate all day 😭
Using the term “submissive” in a relationship is a red flag. ‘Submissive’ literally means to conform to authority. If you’re seeking to have authority over another being, just get a dog lol You’re supposed to be someone’s partner, not their master. There’s no hierarchy here, sir lol
Whenever I hear submissive, I can't help but hear the words "know your place" and my mom constantly tells me how I am so submissive and how men will like that about me. So being nice and actually having the common sense to care about others is submissive when it comes to a relationship? Wth is that about?
@@Jeremy-wp4yh I didn’t say anything about sex or abuse so I’m not sure what you’re gettin at. I’m just talking about the literal definition of a word. There’s no particular perception or interpretation involved . It is what it is.
Females often want a men to lead men can't lead Females if they are confrontational that 50 50 shit doesn't work In a relationship women will always lose respect to a man and most likely leave them dont believe me look at the west dating scene its a fucking joke bunch of people not knowing what they want.
@@JReece3000 your right submissive means that but that doesn't mean it's a red flag a men who makes the decisions and is a leader is very attractive to most females like imagine a dangerous situation and both parties can't decide cuz they equal wtf no one leader not two that shit doesn't work and we are social beings your delusional to think there is no hierarchy.
I’m all for accountability but gay dude said that ALL black men are to blame when a black woman is faulted for being killed? If I know I don’t fit a certain group of misfits I’m still holding blame one way or another? He better sit his ass down lmao
Or maybe there's a lot of lies being told in this video. Look at the video about conversations black women aren't ready to have. Most of those points weren't deep as if there's nothing to be critical of black women for at all. Black men have been gaslit for long enough.
I just posted this on the black woman video so let me say it again, we need true discussions on both sides but I realized that both sides are just an extremely biased perspective of projections that’s gonna lead to gahdamn nowhere so I’m here to say that social media is running these topics into the ground and it is FUCKIN EXHAUSTING
Ong. Social media is fucking the perspectives up. You know the saying “through one ear and out the other”. No one is truly listening but rather just want to get their point across and be in the right all the time.
@@Jess-ew3tm Yeah, but I wish there were way more. The loud and generalizing ones always get more attention. It’s like they’re trying to keep the community at war with each other. I don’t expect us to be perfect but still. If you ask me, this all comes down to leadership, which I feel like we’re missing some.
@@Jess-ew3tm That’s the thing. Black men are trying to lead but wrong ones are trying to lead as well.Tbh this could be said about pretty much any race given a certain time period but anyways. I feel like black men and women both need some new leadership. Stop looking at these tiktokers who clearly have only one agenda for how you should feel (some are not to be trusted). Make sure their logic and your logic actually adds up.
I knew the video about black men would be like this, it was EXTREMELY predictable. The video about black women was about how THEY treat one another, only one black woman in that video spoke on the treatment of black men by black women.
the reason why that is , is because the @buse is higher . the femicide TO US is by BM . High DV cases TO US especially pregnant is by BM . when they say treatment they mean HARM and think about it what physical harm can a woman do to you that you cant put a stop to ? We not talking about talking down and cheating . most bw dont even see it coming when they meeting a BM fist or 🔫 weather its a educated lame or bum . this is about OUR SAFETY and BM dont make any neighborhood SAFE and we live in these environments that BM create. BE HONEST with yourself .
@@hellodia8038 Link the stats. Because y'all are good at creating wide net statements with no proof other than your favorite youtuber/agent of chaos saying it.
@@hellodia8038 Hey, I'm sorry you feel this way, but did you know statistically speaking DV is HIGH in both Black men and Black women, right? Please research this. Also, you're perspective of Black men is white centric driven and stereotyped, by saying, "BM dont make any neighborhood SAFE" is a stereotype in which places Black men as inherently and traditionally aggressive and dangerous. DV in Black women are very high (not to downplay this), however that statistic people reference is from a 2014 study in a small area in California, between roughly 300,000 Black folks (which is about 1-1.3% of the 13.5% African American population). And they contributed this high rate of DV towards Black women (and men) as a attribute of poverty. Find peace, though.
@@BlackGirlLovesAnime6 Awwww someone sounds like they have some personal little vendetta against YOUR OWN PEOPLE. As someone who is half black themselves, I'm disgusted how you are putting all black men into one category. Get help, you sound like a white racist yourself that's been fed those talking points.
i love when Dee says "oh you back" when someone is talking too much and we uninterested in this tiktok compilations. why this isnt a stan twitter meme yet hahaha??
Most black people I know get along and don’t have to many issues with the other gender. They’re mostly with other black peoples and fine for the most part outside of the usual issues in relationships. So I always wonder where these people are that have so many issues in their lives with their own. The only black people I’ve had issues with are the few I met that don’t like black people at all.
I think its what the internet has done to us black folks. Gets us to be pit against each other all the time, rather than standing next to each other. This Twitter culture is the problem.
9:58 A preference is a preference, not an exclusive attraction. Obviously, you can have a preference for one and still like others as well. I prefer gold to silver, but I still like silver. What’s hard to understand?
Why do you like Gold more though. There has to be a reason behind preferring one race over another. That automatically means you are grouping one race together and projecting stereotypes
I disagree with majority of this video because there are faults on BOTH sides. Half these dudes are brown nosing instead of being realistic. Both cause problems from 2 different angles, and both are products of this society. From double-standards to lack of accountability, from lack of respect to being selfish (wanting your cake and eat it too), from the lack of support to the lack of understanding...and the list goes on. Both sides contribute to mistreatment of each other.
@janaes go look at the False Promise of Black Love Part 1 and 2, by Mahogany Pink, and her video on Accountability... i'm glad more and more BW are waking up to the reality of "black love" and doing what's best for them.
🤦🏾♂️ There is a such thing as respectfully bringing up issues without doggin each other out. I notice that some of us make horrible generalisations about each other just as much as other "races" do towards us. Thats counterproductive and it helps to be more discerning.
I prefer to date black women. However, you’d have to be a damn fool to overlook the issues going on in our race and especially with our women. Our culture is terrible.
@@Wizardkelly808 because that's all it is they judging a select few and putting all black men in same category but when you say something you are the one being weak and complaining.
@@Thefundraiser96 Exactly. That’s why I never take these videos serious. It’s hurt naive, bitter people holding all men accountable for one guy that hurt them.
@@Wizardkelly808 which is ironic because they have no problem expressing that to other women online and give all these reasons why black men are this and that, when they say I don't talk to men who aren't 6ft or with 100,000 jobs they call it preference but when you say you want a woman in shape its a problem because you aren't excepting them for who they are.
Ok so as a black darkskin 16 year old guy who has a preference, some of yall black men don't know what the word preference means. I prefer black women over any other race, but I'm not gonna be disrespectful and put down every other race. If u bring up shades I prefer darkskin women over lighter shades but I'm not gonna downplay the lighter shade just to UPLIFT the shade I like. To make my point short having a preference is okay but don't be disrespectful to with it. EVERY SHADE of black is beautiful. Oh and BTW BM have problems and BW have problems as well and we have to fix those problems. But as a whole community we have to get rid of the colorism, homophobia, and sexism, etc bc that shit is toxic lol.
@4:48 DING DING DING!!!! I’ve only been saying this for years. This reminds me of a conversation I had with my bro in law regarding black men, specifically straight and I asked him “What are black men oppressed by outside of being black?” And he couldn’t answer.. there’s literally nothing outside of what comes with being black.
@Xbox One he didn't say that it wasnt a big deal. The issue is that there are privilege blind spots. Some times you fail to understand that intersextionality exists. It is already hard being a black man but add on top of that the issues that come with being a women or the issues that come with being black and gay; black and trans.
@Xbox One Ignorant to what? Being black has its issues, but what I am saying is in regards to the black community. What is there in our community that straight black men fear? Because gay or straight a cop see’s a black man/person first. It doesn’t matter your sexuality, we are all victims to racial prejudice. But when you come home, in the black community a black woman and a gay black man are still dealing with issue in their own community. The fact that you don’t see that proves my point. For example, Have you ever been hesitant when walking into a barbershop full of black men? It’s unnerving for gay black men and black woman. Deray Mckesson, was on the front lines of BLM and activism for our community but once people found out he was gay he got a lot of backlash from his own people. Folks saying they can’t follow or support him anymore because he’s a gay man, but he’s black! And he’s out there fighting for us.
To sum everything up bro is that its okay to have preferences on what you love and stuff but to say u don’t date black women is disrespectful to even say just keep it to ya self or say it n a way were it doesn’t sound disrespectful.
People waking up everyday counting their victim points. It's always a battle of who's the most oppressed. It's true that Victimhood is the new religion
Untrue about black men that don’t black women. I know some black men that black women wouldn’t even talk to let alone date. In most black mens’ lives their mother is the best source of love, respect, understanding, protection, strength a black man will receive in his life. And if a black man gets that from the woman he’s with no matter the race. Then it’s all good
She's on a killstreak out here man. I say date whoever you want. I don't really have a racial preference. But, up till now, I've only had intimate relationships with black women. So I don't know of that redeems me for my lack of preference
@@tyrecedownie-ackloo7432 Yeah but she's a biased bitch so her opinion doesn't matter. Not all black men are like that and black women are guilty too PERIOD.
Talking about issues with a certain group of people isn't a 'war'. That's the main issue here. People take any criticism or people telling their side of the story as a personal attack on all black men. These people are speaking on genuine issues, they're not trying to start a gender war. There's videos out there about white men, black women, white women, gay people, straight people. Telling a group that something they have normalised shouldn't be normal doesn't have to be turned into an issue. It just means you're not willing to hear anyone else's side of the story.
I have'nt heard ANYTHING that I'm not ready for or, a conversation that me or any other Black are not ready to have. Having advocated for our Sisters since 1974, I now feel validation from these young Brothers.
When will people understand that preference does not mean only. I prefer mango smoothies over any other flavor. This doesnt mean I only drink mango smoothies. A lot of people use preference synonymously with only. 2 different words.
The situation at 8:43 is similar to what happened in the movie rosewood. The only difference is they burned down a whole city because of one lie told by a white woman.
I wish this was more about self work like the bw version she reacted to. It was really just a worship bw video for bm. Should've been more about education, building, self love, & brotherhood.
True, but it’s wrong that you look at it as a worship video when there’s much more to it. Shows you still didn’t get the right message. I actually made a long comment about that, but I basically realized that y’all are still at the stage of a wake up call, not self improvement and building like BW are (community-wise).
@@cookiedho That's our problem as bm, we focus on women to much. If we saw worth in ourselves from accomplishments instead of sex it would benefits the community as a whole. I agreed with some points in the video, but none of them improves bm as a whole. That bw even compared bm to ww, the most protected & privileged person in the world. Lol after that I knew what this was really about.
@@greatvaluepookie A lot of black men do what the fuck are you talking about? You living in a cave my guy. No shit minorities like us need to self improve, so we CAN EASILY get sex lol.
@@jordansupplee6561 i don't think you understood the conversation. & I never said we didn't, but it's not the majority. Or we wouldn't be harming each other so much.
Some of us have preference in only one race of women while dating other races of women. Other flip side of that same coin some guys have preferences in only one race of women also won't date outside their race. (Many differences that is a such thing.)
I noticed in the video about "conversations black women aren't ready to have" almost all the comments agreed with the video..but in this one there are A LOT of people being defensive here. The amount of black men WHINING in the comments is so predictable.
You do realize the other video wasn't men's issues with black women it was women's issues with women thats why the difference. So it isn't comparable nice try though
My advice. Pick 10-20 people you can take care of and support. You owe nothing to the culture at large. You are limited in your capacity to give to others, so don't overexert yourself in reaction to these TikTok videos.
@Mira M I see your point. Ideally, the 10-20 people I mentioned would be from the black community, but folks will choose who they will. Our ancestors' selfless contributions were given at a different time though. Today, I see multiple "factions" within the black community, separated by different value systems. As a result, skin color is not enough to warrant unity anymore. And without unity, progress can't be made.
When I compare the comments made by Black men on this video, versus the comments made by black women in response to Dee‘s video about the opposite sex (Convo BW aren’t ready to have), I see that despite this compilation heavily touching on the topic of accountability, there’s a certain lack of exactly that in this comment section of this video. What’s really ironic is how several BM in these comments talk about needing accountability on the other side of the community, but like I just pointed out in the first half of my comment, that’s not really the issue here, since I’m basically trying to make one point : Black Women take much more accountability than Black Men.
Go look at how much black women‘s video mainly focuses on checking each other on the behaviours that not only negatively effect our whole community, but also just simply us as Women, to the point that majority of BW naturally were able to show that they acknowledged the problem and shared uplifting words for the betterment of our community, without desperately trying to shift the conversation and attention onto to our counterparts, despite knowing how many more serious issues involve them. Majority of BM are not on that level yet, hence the type of responses this video gets.
Idk where to start. For one I bet a bw made both videos. Which would explain the difference in topics & why our video revolved around treating yall better. Because in yall eyes that's what's most important. So if the other video would've been like yall treat wm with more respect, or every bm is masculine for the right bw, or Cynthia G is worse than Kevin Samuel, or how bw having been bashing bm just as much as bm, or etc, bw wouldn't have had the same response? A real video that care about bm better themselves, not finding any & after opportunity to take shots would've mainly been about uplifting each other as brother like yall version. Because that is the main problem we as bm deal with, not bw. A video about dating preferences, hating kevin Samuel, female masculinity, & respecting all women that are the same race as your mother doesn't help us.
@@greatvaluepookie This is embarrassing at this point how predictable y’all responses are. When black women say that most BM naturally find an excuse that blames the black woman for everything going wrong as if this is some conspiracy theory you betta believe them ! It’s exactly what you’re doing and I’m shook. I truly do feel sorry for y’all’s community. I hope y’all will figure it out someday, but leave the delusion, cause you do realize that the person who made this a compilation didn’t make all of the videos ? Every word spoken by these men and women in that video was them talking about what they wanted to talk about. So your reasoning doesn’t explain why so many people talk about y’all in this negative way at all.
@@greatvaluepookie first of all, Cynthia G and Kevin are both horrible. 🤦🏾♂️ Second, you are completely proving this persons point to be correct. "Bw treat wm with more respect" "you guys are too focused on taking shots". That's not what ANY of this is about and your first comment is just ridiculous.
@@cookiedho i didn't blame "our community" problems on bw, we're both at fault honestly. It's just ironic that our video involved yall instead of self improvement is all I was saying. But unfortunately your bias about bm makes you defensive. You don't agree that lack of education or hell even black on black crime is more important than dating preferences & simping? & by your logic all these bm complaining about bw must be right then.
Submissive can mean alot just like you said, but to say she is a weirdo for rubbin her mans feet or catering to him...i cannot agree with that. IF you have a healthy relationship where you dont mind caring for your man because he cares for you back....i see nothing wrong with that. People have this stigma its taboo to be a housewife or househusband in 2022, well to some maybe that is the ying n yang to a solid long lasting relationship where both can coexist and know their roles in order for the household to prosper. Dating is just in shambles in our time, its just the facts.
stigma and taboo comes from society. I'd rather follow the bible definition of the submissive wife and I'd never submit to anyone but my husband. And the term"wife must submit to their husbands" comes from the bible. According to it, a woman only submit to her husband. Submit doesn't mean the husband dominate her. the husband has the authority and is capable of being the family leaders but that doesn't mean the wife has to bend to his every needs. It means she should recognize his authority and do her best to love and honor him. we take care of each others and the wife listen to his leadership. she doesn't have to fully agree and she can compromised. the list of responsabilities for both is short but meaningful. A wife serves her husband by is all about doing the best for your husband. And sometimes that means doing things that point him to Jesus. So I can cook and take care if he's sick, in pain, massaging feets, managing the house ect... A husband serves his wife by leading through examples protecting her against the world, Men ought to love their wives just as they love their own bodies. A man who loves his wife loves himself. and loving can also means rubbing her feet and cooking for her. If people learn more about the origin of words and what it implies when we use them maybe we wouldn't be in this mess.
that's not what she means, she means when a guy is specifically looking for a submissive woman who will do all the household chores and obey his wishes without question. like 1950s style sexism
Honestly, I didn't take most of what everyone in these tiktoks said seriously, cuz it sounded like a miriad of vague arguments and personal perspectives, hardly any concrete terms, except for bro at 7:52.
So I dont have a problem with anyone saying they wont date certain people because I dont know their situation. For example I had a coworker that said he would date black women because his mom was giving him the Precious treatment. She would beat him and make he do things to her as a kid and when he told people she said he was acting gay so she was making him a man. So when I hear that your mom birthed you and she black I think about him. In school I remember black girls talking shit about me because I was quiet and didnt bother people. They literally did everything they could to make me hate them. I would date one if I'm attracted to them still. I wont take blame for black men catcalling black women just like I wont take blame when black men do other shit they not supposed to do. I will be honest Black women make things harder than it should be sometimes. I saw a tiktok of a white guy say saying he likes his women like he likes his women "strong and black". Yes it was cringy. But most of the comments were black women saying they were tired of being strong. Well stop saying youre a strong black women if youre gonna complain when someone says they like that. Then you have the choice of a guy that likes you and you choose that thug dude that you know will leave you and then you want sympathy later. Dababy had a baby mama and cheated with some girl and she was cheering when he left his baby mama. A year later he kicks her ass out the house for another girl and she want sympathy. Nah you made you choice.
@@lelelol3092 go look at the False Promise of Black Love Part 1 and 2, by Mahogany Pink, and her video on Accountability... i'm glad more and more BW are waking up to the reality of "black love" and doing what's best for them.. it's not even about preference, BM have NEVER been on BW's side.
Once again another thing about men. Like come on now first it was my gender now it’s my race too. It’s hard walking in a store and you got all eyes on you like damn can I get my eggnog
The second you say the I'm a part of the problem for merely existing is when you lose me...you have disregarded who I am as a person and my lived experiences, and removed my agency as a human being by castigating me for my gender and race. You are not arguing in good faith, and there for no conversation is to be had, which means there is no way to solve the issues. The preconceived notions you hold so dearly will keep you in a feedback loop... *when I say you, I mean the proverbial you*
Idk I kind of disagree with the first thing. Sexual preference is a thing and I really don’t think it’s bad of a black mans preference isn’t black women, it’s not really even self hate. And the point about black men having a black daughter doesn’t hold up bc it’s two different dynamics.
black women are the most oppressed people in the world? I don't know about that...what about the untouchables in India? what about the Chinese? North Koreans? Palestinians?
@@fakecharity Sure being blown up is inconvenient, but well here in America black women have to deal with men dating other women besides black women. What do you have to say about that? That’s right, nothing.
This comment just proves the point that no matter what everyone is still oblivious to the problem addressed in the video your comment proves u watch the video to argue not listen what did anything in your comment have to do with the issue in the video and unless your a black woman don’t speak on black woman issues that goes for everyone.
Heyy Dee!! I absolutely adore you and your reactions 💕 I love these Tik tok talk reactions the absolute most. There’s a channel “tik tok ask and answer” that does all kinds of those videos. One in specific was interesting and felt you might find it interesting idk 😂 here’s the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ARN05X4KC2Y.html. It’s along the lines of “girls: when did your quick thinking save your life” there are 3 parts but this is only one
I do feel that as a black man I should try harder to not stigmatise black women as 'Ratchet' and 'Loud' and that is something I've done more as I've gotten older. But I do think a conversation has to be had where Black women take accountability for being attracted to the type of men that are likely to oppress them. "8 figure, rich nigga that's my type" literally explain this mentality. These types of men are susceptible to treating black women as less of themselves considering that they already have another 10 women riding on them.
Hate to be that person but every race of women prefers a rich man 🥴 you quoted a lyric from saweetie who is half Asian btw so why not stereotype asian girls as well while you’re at it
@@Jess-ew3tm True. But that quote itself has been recycled within hip hop/Black culture and is slowly become normalised if not accepted. And btw if that's their preference then so be it. But a large majority of those men have a disregard for black women.
@@therealgunner5488 I still don’t know how people don’t understand that. The type of men most women want are highly desired because most women want them. You want a handsome, 6ft, wealthy men; which is the smallest % of men. You also want that man to cater to you and make you a priority; meanwhile he has 10-20 other women on his roster. They don’t realize that they’re always going to have to share that man for the most part, and it’s ridiculous. If you want a man that’s going to cater to you and put you first, you’re better off dating an average man. A rich man has nothing to gain from choosing a single woman over the rest.
@@darnayblue3081 I'm not even trying to be a hater. I just feel that the same type of accountability expected from men to not oppress black women should be seen in their choices of who they view as their ideal man.
@@therealgunner5488 You won’t ever get accountability. The lame nerds that they turned down in high school; only became desirable after they became successful. However, he’s a self-hater for dating out. The no good dudes that they “willingly” chose, are the dudes they have a problem with. Those types of guys aren’t ever going to change; yet they just keep trying to change them. Telling them to choose better; isn’t what they want to hear; because they knew their decisions were poor beforehand. This is a generational issue at this point. The term Pookie and Ray Ray didn’t drop out of thin air.
Submissive, doesn't mean just bow down like she's owned. Everyone running away with that meaning. In alot of ways is a women, just naturally being feminine
