Anne C I see every day where drivers don't signal and don't stop before turning right on red. This has nothing to do with you hating cyclists. That's your own issue.
@@MrBJPitt i don't care about cyclists, ill share the road with them as long as they are in their respective area, but they are not cars and they should not take a whole lane.
@@fastpackcyclist6901 my road bikes breaks work so well they will throw you over the front when you jam them. What kind of shitty bike do you ride? And lets be honest, you don't stop at stop signs because you are lazy and don't want to loose your momentum.
@@jeffbuyer5768 1. I don't have a shitty bike 2. I have a Giant Contend ar 3 with shimano sora 3. I am not lazy, If I can stop I will, other times I won't, if it is a for way stop sign area, I am not stopping unless I see a car, any other time I will, Lights, only If it turns yellow, most of the time I am moving faster than the lights so it doesn't matter, I also use back roads to train, so it doesn't matter, also its not wrong to be a little lazy, so fuck off
@@emilyfaust2499 If the cop was a decent cop, he would've given them all tickets. He's not doing his job correctly and everyone is congratulating him for it.
@@queerlibtardhippie9357 oh well. It's said and done. It's not like the cop murdered anybody. The cop's original plan was to let them all off with a warning. So I stand by my original statement. It's just my opinion that the biker deserved it for trying to throw everyone else under the bus by claiming he was the only one to stop when he was in front of the pack. That's why I found his claim so hard to believe
I’m an avid cyclist; also drive a large service vehicle 6-8 hrs a day 5 days a week. There’s no denying some in the cycling community are ridiculous, childish, snobby and douchey that’s an established fact. I’ve tried the group rides and was too embarrassed to continue with them not to mention being ostracized as an “unworthy” member because the sticker price on my bike was under 8K. I ride because I enjoy it and it’s a viable way to maintain my fitness goals especially after sitting in the drivers seat all day. I also do my best to make myself visible with DRL’s, high vis gear and follow local traffic laws. Thing is, nobody is perfect, armchair authorities included. On a quiet residential street when nobody is around I’ll often only slow down to look for traffic or people crossing the street. My vantage point is a lot better than from inside a vehicle. I can clearly see the all angles of an intersection. if nobody is around yeah, I’ll save some starting effort in coming to a complete stop and roll through. I also have a CCTV system at home which captures my driveway including a nearby one way stop. Does every person driving a vehicle come to a complete legal stop? Not even close. Hardly ever. I’ve got the video to prove it. It’s easy to point the finger at cyclists but the gripe seems more like a knee jerk road rage type emotional thing to me. Most vehicles weigh in around 3500Lbs + a road bike 25-30lbs? Who wins in a collision? When driving I’d rather see a cyclist quickly clear the intersection in front of me, get established and up to speed on the side of the road or in a bike lane so I can carry on and safely pass.
wow really..?? "sticker price on my bike was under 8K" ???? .... shaming u for this is PATHETIC! what happened to good old days where riders come together just to ride no matter who rides and what bike he is riding???
@@DaveCM I appreciate the feedback from yourself and the others on here. Since writing my first comment I have had time to become better acquainted with those in my local cycling community as well as a few from the global community. Overall very supportive and encouraging people. You are correct when you say it’s a minority who tend to get a little ridiculous. There’s definitely more who wish to keep cycling fun and inclusive!
As a cyclist this, I can honestly say this needs to happen more often. Few and far between actually follow the laws of the roadway, yet scream to share the space. Again as a CYCLIST I say this.
@@nejaahalcyon I am not the reason, you people fail to see that when you are a human who is competitive you make sure to hit every light that is green or yellow before hitting red so you don't have to stop, when it comes to signs, it is mostly out in the country
@@fastpackcyclist6901 wtf does competitiveness have to do with respecting the law and the other users of the road? you're either trolling or delusional, ether way seek help
It's about time cops get after this nonsense. I'm an avid bicyclist, and these groups of riders that block traffic, piss me off, and are the reason all of us other cyclist put up with the ire of motorist.
Anytime a cop goes into some long speech, you can almost guarantee that he's not going to give you a ticket if you just shut up and listen to him, even if what he's saying is complete BS. If he was going to give you a ticket, he'd just collect your ID and give you a ticket rather than give you some long speech.
@@johnawong1542 But look at your pfp though. 😂😆😂 You look like you're desperately trying to look impressive to every 12 year old. You are a vegan weakling for certain.
Pity Americans have to be good little citizens and sit with your mouths shut when a “police officer” is copsplaining. This cop is being so patronising and generalising this group. As soon as he said “accidentally” honking I labelled him a bigoted fool.
@@luptonpittman6520 well we can’t really comment on that as there is no footage of them riding. Seems like the cop was pissed off they were in a group.
I thought you were talking about the cop. What's he going on about and is ticketing for shutting people up legal? He clearly didn't even know the truth.
Honestly stop signs should be treated as yield signs for bicyclists as stopping completely sucks as you loose all of your momentum, you should only be required to slow down and make sure everything is clear, and bikes aren't going to kill anyone anyways as they don't have a lot of mass.
And if you do make a mistake then own up to it and try harder next time. Everyone sometimes makes mistakes but the good guys are those who learn from them and keep improving.
It usually happens like this: A group of cyclists stops at at stop sign, and proceeds through *as a group* instead of each making a full stop at the sign, as required by the law. Motorists complain that the cyclists aren't observing the law, namely the stop sign. Then, the group makes a general announcement to strictly observe the stop sign and proceed one at a time. The result is that the compact blob of cyclists is now strung out over half a mile and becomes impossible for a motorist to pass safely. This results in even MORE motorist frustration. There needs to be more common sense differentiation in traffic laws and infrastructure between cars and bikes. Treating them the same doesn't seem to be working out.
Very good point but a lot of the people Commenting here hate bikes and probably buzz cyclists whil speeding/texting all the same time saying they "obey" the law. If a cyclist runs a stop sign or light it will just get himself killed. If a car or truck does it is different story
In my experience, I find that the more expensive the bike is and the more decked out the cyclist is clothes wise, he's a bigger snob and doesn't follow the traffic law as he should. I am a cyclist myself and always try not to give cyclists a worse image than we already have. I admit, I don't always come to a full stop at a stop sign but I brake and slow down considerably. Cyclists will always have a bad image and name. I do my best to change that by following the traffic laws and thanking drivers who let me go first.
James Cain speed limit means speed limit. Yet no one driving seems to respect that even though the roads would be safer. But if a cyclist treats a stop as yield it’s the end of the world even though it’s been proven safer for cyclists to treat stops as yields. .
Agreed. I no longer ride with clubs or groups because of this. Funny comment about being decked out. I’ll never forget the time a guy showed up for a group ride wearing a time trial helmet. Bizarre.
theres a bigger issue here. more often than not stopping is less safe as a cyclist. this is highly dependent on the visibility of the intersection, but in certain circumstances if you stop you are putting yourself in harms way longer
Not exactly. Some states have stop-as-yield laws for cyclists. So this means if you're on a bicycle in such a state, you don't have to treat it as a stop sign.
I wonder if he could use this video in court to get out of the ticket. It shows that he gave a ticket out of personal bias because the guy talked back at the cop
no way, most cyclists here agree, he deserved that ticket. Cops deal with liars and honest people many times a day. They know how to spot them. Plus the cop said he saw it himself and no one there could vouch saying that one guy stopped. Plus the one guy was giving him attitude all the time. Watch the video dude! It is that guy being a pain, which he had been doing prior to then, Totally deserved it. See all the upvotes from other cyclists saying he deserved it.
@@andrewnorris5415 "I think you lie" is no reason for a ticket. It's ridiculous what's possible in the American police system, and this is even defended - lol
Happened in my city. This group of regular cyclists pulled the same shit every morning of the week in the big city. Every god damn morning at 6 o'clock in the morning in heavy morning traffic they just ran through all the reds and stops zig-zagging through cars to get to their office quicker. Of course police were aware of it and since they always took the same route one morning they waited for them in unmarked cars. Every single one of these 20-25 fuckers received a red light ticket and points on their license. 4 bloody cops writing tickets for a solid 45 minutes. Oh it was the best traffic jam at the light I spent in my life. And I had ice cube " today was a good day" song playing on the radio, perfect xD.
@@SarsTheSecond probably cause your a dumbfuck unitard wearing fairy who believes because he's on a bicycle that traffic laws don't apply ( guess what you stinkin twat waffle they do ) and then you get all mad cause a car stopped at a stop sign then went while you fly through at 20 kph and get side swiped as you should.
I am a cyclists over in puerto rico, and i rage so hard when they rant out about sharing the road and having equal rights as motor vehicles and then they blow past red lights and stop signs like it doesn't apply to them. I always stop and obey road signs even when i am in a group (me and the wife get left behing alot) to spread consciousness
This is why I record EVERYTHING when I ride, It's a B*tch when editing but in a situation where I am in the right and need proof I am all set. Just think of it as a dash cam that you can use for all kinds of occasions and not just rides. I always recommend it
@@Etherion195 the one guy claimed he wasn't part of the group and was cycling by himself when the group caught up to him. whether that is true or a lie is not known
@@smolcocky6466 Hey if your bods not strong enough to carry a little extra weight that's not my fault mate. In the end yes it is extra weight, but if you wear it all the time you don't even notice it anymore (becomes normal like wearing a helmet).
I have been a avid cyclist for 39 yrs including my bmx racing starting at 8 yrs old. I live in park city Utah, and I have to say, cyclist that think they own the road and have an attitude about it hurt us all. I cant tell you how stupid it is to ride two or three abreast or run stop signs or anything else that jacks up the flow of traffic. sure it is our right to take the full lane and say f-off to the cars, but imagine you as the driver of the car and watching a group of cyclists ride 18 mph when the speed limit is 35, and there is 8 cars waiting to get by, and the cyclists are all side saddle ready to flip the bird. the cars want to kill you and then they hate cyclists, and the situation gets worse. share the road goes both ways. you should have all got tickets, but I'm glad the big mouth liar got one at least. seriously bart, as professional as you come across, you should never condone crap like this, and should do a video about improving car and bike interaction, respecting the road and all that travel it, and staying safe by not abusing your privilege to ride on roads in traffic. most cyclists I know that were injured training on road bikes are due to car- bike collisions or being run off the road, and some admittedly tried to battle a car, or just were not courteous and sharing the road. in bike vs car, the cyclist always looses, even when they think their right.
+pctimber I am definitely not condoning it I never said it was okay to do. In fact, where I live in Idaho, a stop sign is only a yield and I didn't know a bike was treated as a vehicle in California so beforehand didn't even know it was illegal to do
hey bart, maybe your not condoning it, but posting this without language describing its dangerous, nobody should do it, follow the rules of the road cause they apply to cyclists, respect cars, and if you don't you could get a ticket, or be killed, etc. is irresponsible because most people watch it and say," oh, another douche bag cop harassing cyclists." there is too much to lose not to promote safe road riding. luv your channel , look forward to future discussions
I also love the people that get mad at cyclists for what they do wrong but forget all the sh*t car drivers do to cyclists. Including cutting cyclists off, driving to close to us, getting too close pushing us off the road, not giving priority when the cyclist has it.. ignoring signs because is just a bike.. these is some of the stuff people do to me everyday in my country.
first i would like to say stop means yield (LOL!! ) in every state! not! LOL!! thats funny. there is no before footage of the stop sign. now- how many people in cars violate the laws all the time, every day and they're not called on it? too much paperwork, is what you'll get. i got that answer right here in NY!!! so if your so goddamn perfect.... siiigghhh......srry, lost my cool for a sec. let us (you and i) go for a sunday drive, so i can pick out your moving violations. i bet you'll fail like most here will. im just another 30+ yr cyclist like you that has seen people drive/ride like poo heads. ""GENERAL STATEMENTS""!-- when a roads speed limit is 35 do you go 40? you broke the law. i bet like most you only do the limit when you past a school! LOL! and before you start on me! LOL!!! yes i know the laws for 29 states i plan on riding through. one of them is my state, NY. have i broke the law? yes i do!! and only when it is uber safe for me! i will boast and brag about how i never ever got into an accident with a moving car. the one time that involved a car! dont ask! LOL!! going straight up a hill and i hit a parked car. LOL! till this day i cant figure it out. did i tell yea straight? the moral of the story is? dont say nothing unless you are dam well perfect or admit that your not perfect. OH!!!!, DID YOU KNOW THAT ROADS WERE MADE FOR BUGGIES AND BICYCLES??!!!!! ONE LESS CAR!!!!!
LOL! didnt read your comment! they do that in most countries. when they get close enough to see blemishes in the paint! one word comes to mind KEY!!! they drive too close and follow you. i find flipping a penny(for the U.S.) or a metal washer back at them works. gets them to back off! this is why reason why i said what i did- i had a guy try to run me off the road in front of a cop. what did the cop do? he told me! to find a better place to ride!! LOL! New York mentality LOL!!! gotta love it! i found the best choice is to take 1/3rd of the lane. they cant take advantage of you at that point and it is safe.
I second that. Not a big fan of cyclist on general. One time I came to a 4 way stop prior to pack of cyclists. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM didn't yield the right of way to me and went through stop sign out of turn without complete stops.
@Samuel Colt i think the cop was gonna let them all off with a warning but because he blatantly lied he gave the lier the ticket? Or am i missing somthing?
Completely unprofessional and reactionary? He's going on about things that didn't happen and then he only tickets the one guy who said he didn't do it, when clearly he doesn't even know. Either ticket them all or don't. That's the job.
Watch it again. It's quite clear that he wasn't sure if that particular guy ran it. He had to ask if he was riding with the group and you can hear him project his inner monologue from "I think you're a liar" to then convincing himself retroactively "you're a liar". He didn't know. Yes, he saw a bunch of cyclists run it. If he had been lying his mates probably would have even called him out on it.
My cycling group stops at all red lights. We will go through stop signs "IF" there are no cars that we could impede. Yes we are supposed to stop at the stop signs but honestly we only do it if there are cars. We aren't all a bunch of A-holes. We never ride more than two wide. On narrower and one lane roads we ride single file and stay as far right as safely possible. We have had no issues with pissing people off or slowing anyone down. We did all stop at a stop sign once and a cop yelled at us because he wanted us all to move up to the line and stop individually and it was really GD annoying. There were no cars, just him going a different direction. We all did stop but obviously some were further back and when it was safe we went as a unit but anyone more than a foot from the stop sign the cop yelled at. I could have been ticketed because i was around the middle and when he started yelling i just rode past and said sorry. I didn't want to risk mashing brakes and causing a crash at that point. But all he said is "ok but you have to obey the laws like everybody else" We haven't had any other issues and 99% of the time when drivers see us they just wave us by... Not rage out on us.
This video gives me a nice cathartic feeling. I see irresponsible, self-entitled cyclists out and about where I live and keep wishing they'd get pulled over for the stuff they try to get away with. That police officer is alright in my book!
I’m a pedestrian I don’t drive or cycle and the number of car drivers that run red lights is amazing , I witnessed four today , everyone on the road is a fucking cunt and I am fed up with them all , nobody obeys the traffic laws police included .
I was pulling up to an intersection on a back country road in Texas, and a large group of cyclists was approaching from my right, turning left at the intersection and passing me going the way from which I had just come. Since they were obviously cutting the corner and using the whole intersection, I stopped about 20 ft back from the stop sign and put it in park, well on the right side of the road, and out of their way, figuring I’d be there a little while. Most of the group continued zipping around the corner just fine and as I chilled watching to my right for the last rider, one idiot, for no apparent reason decided he needed to pound on the left front part of my hood with his fist. Surprised me. Angered me. Made me lose any shred of respect for cyclers. I get the appeal of traveling from point a to b via bicycle. I get training for competitions. If we had more bike lanes I’d do it myself, but you need to self-police and stop the bad apples in your group that give you all a bad name. I could have easily decided to use the entire intersection to turn around and chase the idiot down, and a bicycle vs a pickup truck will lose every time. Blowing thru stop signs, failing to give right away, attacking cars for being cars, then you wonder why motorists dislike you.🙄
I would say percentage wise my experience has been I see far more bikes blowing stop signs and stop lights percentage wise compared to motor vehicles....I got stopped 20 years for going 25 in a park on my bike with a posted speed of 20...... he asked one question .... "Do you know you were speeding" - I said yes.....He said this is your one and only verbal warning........ I'm just saying they put up with a lot of shit and sometimes if people would just be honest maybe they wouldn't expect the worst from people...
I would say I rarely ever see a car fully stop for a stop sign, and even more rarely see a car stop for a right on red. Anyway, the cop is extremely unprofessional. Selective enforcement is illegal and in this case is a straight up intimidation tactic to assert power. Not ethical policing and obviously he wasn't even certain that he was right.
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Good thing the cars only *accidentally* honk at you.
@BiggestComplainer the answer to your question Cagers it means people in automobiles that's a term used by Harley Riders a lot now does that answer your question.!!
Gregg Germer in majority of cases single file allows the traffic to overtake; two abreast makes overtaking much more difficult and traffic has to slow down to the cyclists speed and wait for an opportunity to overtake. Are u saying two abreast is good because it compresses the length of the group? Or that it forces the cars not to overtake? Regardless, I disagree
420 Friendly I live in New Zealand. That’s absurd that a cyclist can take up a whole road lane legally - I can see why motorists would get upset in these cases (no excuse to hit cyclists though). I agree that two abreast can force safer over taking in some cases but still don’t think it’s right. The road is for motor vehicles first and foremost. I don’t see any cars / motor bikes being allowed on cycle ways/lanes. More defined rules with harsher fines / punishment for wrong-doers on both sides could help to make a safer shared space.
@@juanismyrealname683 who says roads are for motor vehicles? where should I ride my bike then? in the air? If there were cycle lanes everywhere sure, but most countries dont give a fuck about cyclists and there aren't any so the road belong to cyclists as much as it belongs to cars.
Mopeds, tractors, old trucks and just about every slow moving traffic I catch up with on my motorcycle or car has pulled over and stopped to let the long tail of traffic behind them pass. A group of cyclists taking up the whole road on the other hand? Not even once.
I have followed slow trucks, buses, school buses, and various other things. The only difference is that if you hit a bus or tractor you will damage your vehicle unlike a bicyclist. How would you pass a bicycle if it had what a tractor sometimes is towing?
1) Nice Madone! 2) It's California. 3) Stop at stop signs! 4) There's one in every group! 5) I think I might route my group ride around this town in the future.
Dayesleeper my bikes cost way more. But I’ve ridden across the USA 4 times China once Australia once India 2 times Motorcycles are nice But super dangerous and way expensive. I like bicycles because I have to supply the power.
@@PInk77W1 thats pretty awesome. Huge feat doing that all. After moving from sonoma county and dealing with the packs of riders who block the whole road, ill stick with running. Those who ride there left a bad image.
Dayesleeper Sonoma is the worst. I came from Santa Cruz and now live in Tx. My town has one other cyclist. The town doctor. LoL. I don’t get along with cyclist. They are the snobbiest. One time I rode up the biggest mountain in the Tour de France with 5000 cyclists. At the top I noticed a group of guys with the kind of bike I was riding. MOOTS. So I cruised over to chat with them. They all gave me the stink stare. Finally one said “Hey man, what’s up with your bike, why don’t u clean it?” I said “I just pedaled 600 miles from London that’s why.” Total silence, so I left. LoL. I could tell u many more stories just like that.
It's the law in Idaho that cyclists can treat stop signs as yields and red lights as stops (ca proceed if it's clear). Proven to decrease crashes at stop intersections. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop
Soo i got pulled over one time going 50 in a 30 zone. I was like seriously. Dude was like holy shit your fast. Gave me a high five . Thought I was getting a ticket 😂
I’m an avid cyclist. I always obey the rules of the road. Period. I even use the proper hand signals. It’s dingbats like Mr. Mouthpiece that give us a bad reputation. As a rider, there are three things that really chap my hide: 1. cyclists (groups or solos) that think laws don’t apply to them, 2. cyclists that don’t wave back because they’re snobs - you can tell the difference between the snobs and those that just didn’t see my wave or are having to focus because of road conditions, and 3. when I run out of chamois cream.
So pleased to see this pragmatic, straightforward dealing with people, who happen to believe as cyclists they are somehow different, well maybe some took on board his words,some not,one certainly not,and got no more than he deserves...edit,in fact I've watched it again, I'd like shake that policeman's hand,clearly a very experienced one ,smart result ,the denier for his dishonesty took the punishment for them all,the remainder can leave for there honesty...
@@thumper73 Hes the type that teaches guys like you a lesson. How the hell was he an asshole, by giving a ticket to someone who ran a red and wouldn't stop back talking?
I've been pulled over a few times for slowly passing a stop sign and fully admitted to it. Cops were cool about it with just a warning. Luckily I was the only one at the intersections so I'm sure that's why. But sometimes these groups tend to swarm cars on turns and I'm not for it. Huge safety risk for both parties. Ride safe and smart everyone
Depends on the municipality. Some cities permit Cyclists to roll stop signs as long as they’re cautious. I assume this city is not one of them. FTR, I always stop at traffic lights. I always stop at stop signs if it’s a busy street. Leaders on group rides will usually clear an intersection and waive the group through. I don’t know what happened here or why the cop is so upset. But I am digging that guy’s Madone SSL. A real classic.
Most comments here seem to not like cyclists. I drive and ride, and I always respect cyclists by making them more room on the road regardless the way they ride. And when on the road, I often see more bad drivers than bad cyclists. I lost more than 10 lbs in a year by riding bike, and feel much healthier than years ago, I even wish I could ride to work. And the more people commute by bike, the better the air and traffic. Just don't understand why so many negative comments.
@@cebruthius I have never been to Amsterdam, but all the travel info gives me an impression that it's a very bike friendly city and large percentage of people commute with bike. It's hard to believe someone from a place like that don't like other cyclists because of their outfit. Why is it bothering you?
@@cebruthius good answer.most of the spandex brigade are looking for drivers to have a go cause they have a chip on their shoulder. I dunno maybe they feel a bit inferior.
"regardless the way they ride. " Nope, they need to obey traffic laws too. I will still be cautious while driving behind them, but will tell them to move over if they are hogging the road.
There is a difference between rolling through a stop sign and rolling through a stop light. In Idaho the law for cyclists are treat stop signs like yield signs and stop lights as stop signs. I know that is not the case in every state - so it is important to know the rules of the road for the state in which you are riding. Cop was on a power trip for sure - and has something against cyclists. What a crazy experience.
This cop is totally unprofessional and out of line. He is rambling on about something hypothetical junk that didn't even happen. Then the only person he actually tickets is the guy who said he didn't actually run the light with everyone else. The cop admits that he doesn't even know.
The policeman believed that NO ONE stopped. He gave others the opportunity to claim that this rider was not a part of the group that failed to stop. No one confirmed the rider's claim. Nobody said "this guy wasn't in our peloton officer". So what would YOU do in the circumstances?
@@smitajky I often couldn't tell you the color of the shirt of the guy behind me. I'm pretty sure if he was with the group for some distance, they would have come down on him for trying to weasel out and nobody seemed to say that either.
The snitch, tried saving his own ass getting a ticket while they all get off is poetic justice. "I understand what your saying..., once I stopped the group came by"
In some cities, it's actually lawful to run red lights or stop signs on a bicycle, if the coast is clear. If there's no traffic coming, then you're fine to go past it. I'm pretty sure Boise, Idaho is one of those towns, correct me if I'm wrong.
Close but it's not as open as that. Idaho allows stop signs to be tried as yields and lights to be treated as stop signs. Some Colorado cities have the same. And some states have a dead red law that allows cyclists and motorcyclists to run a red after a certain time period if sensors don't pick them up.
I live and bike commute in Tucson. None of the rules say that you can blow through a stop sign or red light. But, they do say that a cyclist doesn't have to do a "foot down" stop. I have found that slowing down at a stop sign, being ready to stop and at least make the motions to check traffic seems to be good enough.
Good on the cop, well articulated comment there. Shame our cops in the UK don't have this attitude towards cyclists as they all seem to be 'little darlings who do no wrong' in the law's eyes.. I once saw saw a cyclist run a red at night, with no lights or hi vis clothing, nearly causing a pile up. The police car next to me couldn't have cared less!
I see this all the time! I won't ride with my neighbor's group of cyclist because they act just like that and they are proud of it! Wish he have given them all tickets.
One of the unfortunate things is that, for many motorists, it is the mere presence of cyclists that frustrates them and it is their complaints that get the sherrif out. In my state, each cyclist in the group must proceed one-at-a-time, after a full stop; that is the same as a motorized vehicle. However, the affects of the aftermath on the traffic is magnitudes higher, as the cars/motorcycles have to execute a safe pass for a group that is strung out, instead of compact. It doesn't affect many of my rides. I ride in rural areas, in small groups, but I see it in suburban settings.
Proper cop. He was 100% spot on with that herd mentality. They always hold back the traffic and don't give a single fuck about anyone else, because they are in the group. He should've given all of them tickets to teach them a lesson on road sharing.
😂its always that one guy that digs the hole even deeper maybe the cop was just going to give them a speech now everyone bout to get a ticket lol(didnt happen but could of)
In Washington state, cyclists can treat stop signs like yeild signs. Don’t know about other states, but everywhere should be like that. So no, cyclists don’t always have to stop at stop signs
