Don't know if you noticed, but in the clip about the cyclist "owning the road" there's a load of slow moving traffic and everyone is trying to find space. Cyclist did the right thing staying visible and avoiding getting boxed in. He didn't block anyone because there was nowhere to go. If you mean he overtook before you did, then yeah it's called traffic dude.
You mean like at 1:52 when he nearly collides with an oncoming car whilst riding on the wrong side of the road? Yeah, it's called 'Traffic' and sometimes you have to stop for it, rather than risk your life (and somebody else's) overtaking on the wrong side of the road.
"You MUST NOT overtake the moving vehicle nearest the crossing or the vehicle nearest the crossing which has stopped to give way to pedestrians." Note:-Moving vehicle Was the Artic moving??
I've watched many of these kind of vids and I've come to the conclusion that it's got little to do with who's driving what is an idiot, it's just London let's be honest. There is an underlying arrogant entitlement to far too many in that city
london could be a great place, if it weren't for the "Londoners"....:-)...it's the same in Berlin.....only worse....you should hear how "they" talk.....:-)
Agreed. I live in countryside with everyone doing 55 to 60plus on the straightest roads in UK. MOTOR bike heaven but NO cyclists. They would not survive without jumping into the grass verges to avoid cars and lorries . It's the constant start stop of cities that triggers the poor behaviour.
I live in Brighton and it's almost a mini version of london at this point. With the use of the internet there is no need for these jam packed cities causing pent-up stress and aggrovation. I'd much rather be in the country where you can actually step out your front door without pissing someone off.
@@elainekerslake6865 It's actually motor vehicles mostly triggering bad behaviour in London. Westminster Council found that in car/bike collisions drivers were responsible for 82%.
I was a motorcycle courier in London for 7 years in the 90s .That moped at 4.00 min going around the bollard at night to the other side of the road against fast moving on-coming traffic must be on a suicide mission .
I can almost count the rpm of that engine :-) Nice to see a calm biker rather than all the cocks smacking off wing mirrors. We all use the roads and lifes to short.
I've seen more road rage on Sesame Street. And you do lane splitting and say that the cyclists owns the road?!? Being faster doesn't mean you can simply overtake anyone whenever you want.
In the hierarchy of vulnerable road users cyclists come first . If you want to stay safe you own the road and and stuff anyone who doesn't like it . My safety comes before your sensibilities , most people have no idea how to drive / ride when encountering a cyclist . Some cyclists are confident and competent and some most definitely are not , give them time and space and nobody gets hurt . Then you can dash off to the emergency that just can't wait . Thanks you're welcome
That was funny. Car drivers get jealous of motorbikes for getting ahead. Then this motorbike gets jealous of the cyclist.!! I never understood this attitude. People don't race down the pavements on foot. Lol
@@andyhodge9703 no.... actually pedestrians come first. Cyclist seem to have the same mentality towards pedestrians that motorists have to cyclists. Pathetic bunch of hypocrites the whole lot of you!
Rule 165 You MUST NOT overtake if you would have to cross or straddle double white lines with a solid line nearest to you (but see Rule 129) if you would have to enter an area designed to divide traffic, if it is surrounded by a solid white line the nearest vehicle to a pedestrian crossing, especially when it has stopped to let pedestrians cross if you would have to enter a lane reserved for buses, trams or cycles during its hours of operation after a ‘No Overtaking’ sign and until you pass a sign cancelling the restriction. Laws RTA 1988 sect 36, TSRGD regs 10, 22, 23 & 24, & ZPPPCRGD reg 24
@@retroonhisbikes The lorry wasn't the lead vehicle on the crossing when he started to pass , but it became the lead vehicle after the taxi crossed . I would have held back there . Spoiled also when he drew alongside the white BMW in the same clip ; making another lane : OK to 'filter' past in the opposing lane , but there should only be ONE vehicle in any given lane .
@Nick Shannon I guess he just wanted the cyclist to step off and go in the sidewalk to let him pass, just like any being who is inferior to him should do to help him save 3 seconds.
What a crock of $hi+e. Of course you can always look behind you. If you can’t then don’t go and stay where you are. Another example of clueless cyclists with no idea about the roads.
This is a very common comment on this thread. If this was not a cyclist and was a car overtaking, would your view be the same? Overtaking like this (time taken) and taking a big risk when there is an oncoming car that has to stop to let you pull in is just not safe. I cycle too, that does not mean I am invisible.
@@akamood the motorbike did a worse job 🤣. Complete novice rider by the looks of it. Must have only recently got their licence. Only thing that can explain the awful standard of riding.
Love that bit about cyclist owning the road only for the motorcyclist to overtake on the zig zag approach to a crossing! People in greenhouses shouldn’t throw stones. 👍🏼
"You MUST NOT overtake the moving vehicle nearest the crossing or the vehicle nearest the crossing which has stopped to give way to pedestrians." Note:-Moving vehicle Was the Artic moving?? Had he stopped to give way to pedestrians?
Think you're talking about scooter riders,,,,,, they do what they like and never taken a proper test and probably stole what they are riding as well 😁🙄
@@notcrediblesolipsism3851 Difficult to see if the artic was stationary, but the taxi was the vehicle nearest the crossing. The overtake was also cautiously done in my opinion.
it is the case in so many of these videos , but having watched a few of this guy's videos he is actually quite a careful and considerate biker - and we ALL make the odd mistake
The basic problem is the same in each case. In London there's too much traffic and not enough space. Yeah people push through but that's how it works. Most of the time the speeds make it possible. Everyone pushes in, don't think you can single anyone out in particular.
That is the only cyclist I have ever seen that actually stopped for a red light. Normally they just sail through and flip the finger at the motorist that almost hit them.
Years ago you wouldn't have believed how the Sportster would become a prime London commuter bike, its lean body helps a lot. Having said that, through most of the eighties and part of the nineties I commuted from North Surrey to Fleet St on an old Electra Glide, taught me a lot. (used to try to make whole trip without putting foot down, never managed but good sport)
I see you have toxic wankers in the uk as well. I wish to move away from all traffic just to get away from psychopaths its just not worth the stress anymore.
Hi Winston Thanks for reaching out. Good question. In my view, the cyclist exposed himself to great unnecessary risk. He could have been seriously injured if the car coming the other way had not braked (Gopro field of view may give wrong impression but I was there). He chose to overtake a very long vehicle, without having the required momentum to make this a quick job, when eventually came face to face with oncoming traffic. You are not allowed to do that. He must have thought he had special rights to place him and his bicycle there. As he was riding for far too long on the opposite side of the road, on a day of poor visibility because of the rain, I thought what he did was the opposite of clever and could not find another word to describe him at the time. By the way, I cycle too, so please don’t read this response as a “biker’s” comment. I have nothing against people riding anything with wheels on sensibly.
@@akamood If only your comments in the video were as articulate as this reply, maybe you wouldn’t come across as anti cyclist. One problem of course is you make your comment about him owning the road before he overtakes. That suggests you’ve post rationalised the above.
So what about the zigzag that you overtook on....doesn’t that count, or was it because the HGV was so long that you couldn’t see if it was safe to progress? But you did anyhow.
@@edwardmeadley3799 Who are you talking to? I’m not the cyclist in the video. However, I think you need to learn the difference between filtering and overtaking.
In Germany, there is a minimum distance of 1.5 m from cyclists (handlebar end). So it is not allowed to overtake them in narrow streets. That is the rule, not the reality
Wolfgang, the rules are the same here. The sad fact is that many cyclists feel they have the right to use the whole road despite other vehicles being generally faster. Being “in the right” and under the wheels of a car isn’t a great place to be. Many of the riders of all two wheelers take mad risks and for what? A few seconds saved. This guy is a sensible and calm rider. It’s the best way of staying alive. Better late(r) than never.
@@ianross225 Ian, I agree. The risks are unevenly distributed. With my bike I can't disturb an SUV if I'm aggressive and stupid, but a truck can kill me on the bike. Safety first !
@Kent cyclist You can see for yourself. It's all documented, including the offences. And boy are there a lot of offences. Interestingly during this period, no electric motorbikes. That's where the big points and fines are available. But from your moniker, can I ask which one on the video is you? :-)
As a life long cyclist and motorcyclist since the age of 17 (now 61) I've seen a lot of bad riding. If I'm honest I was no saint when I was younger. It really hurts me when I see motorcyclists behaving badly to cyclists. Motorcyclists have all been cyclists in their time, and so should understand their vulnerability. I have seen many cyclists and motorcyclists put themselves in danger and then hurl abuse at those who have to take evasive action or who display annoyance with them. I accept that two wheelers are more often on the receiving end of bad and/or aggressive behaviour by other road users than vice-versa. That in itself does not excuse poor road skills on our part. Whatever your mode of transport ALWAYS put the safety of others first. ALWAYS keep a cool head, even when those around you are losing theirs. Everything goes better when everyone rides and drives with consideration.
First clip is hardly road rage. As a cyclist, I absolutely don't mind motorcycles and mopeds sharing the ASL with me. They're going to be up the road and out of my way as soon as the light turns green. More noteworthy was 3 cars clearing the junction after the light has turned to green.
Fantastic video and advices from a guy who half the time rides against the oncoming traffic. Now imagine if all car drivers decided to do the same thing.
Why did the motorbike overtake on a crossing? Rule 165 You MUST NOT overtake if you would have to cross or straddle double white lines with a solid line nearest to you (but see Rule 129) if you would have to enter an area designed to divide traffic, if it is surrounded by a solid white line the nearest vehicle to a pedestrian crossing, especially when it has stopped to let pedestrians cross if you would have to enter a lane reserved for buses, trams or cycles during its hours of operation after a ‘No Overtaking’ sign and until you pass a sign cancelling the restriction. Laws RTA 1988 sect 36, TSRGD regs 10, 22, 23 & 24, & ZPPPCRGD reg 24
At 00:50 you cut that cyclist up. He shouldn't have been signalling as it is just his right of way to keep going and overtake that parked vehicle. If he would have done that you would have hit him.
Would be hilarious to apply your logic in a cycle lane on a busy commute day. Love how you cherry pick where the Highway Code applies to cyclists and where not. 🤣🤣
@@akamood Irrelevant to the point made, you cut up the vulnerable person and now you're waffling whataboutery regards something else. Typical motorist entitlement and ignorance!
@@retroonhisbikes if people complain i pull into them on the bike If i’ve filtered through traffic but only like half way just so that the car i filtered in front can atleast see me infront of the blindspot on their car (the windscreen pillar)
As a retired HGV driver I had to go through London many of day seeing this sort of behaviour. Every single day I would be minding my own business driving properly people cutting me up on cycles, mopeds et cetera and then when something went wrong, they blame me glad I’m retired .
Thanks for sharing this. I don’t think people appreciate how difficult and stressful your job is, especially in central areas with a lot of traffic/ congestion.
Relevant point cut and pasted from Highway Code for the outraged cyclist... "If your vehicle has proceeded over the first white line at the time that the signal goes red, you should stop as soon as possible and MUST stop at the second white line."
You should have given way to the cyclist at 0.42 that had his arm out to go round the bus instead of overtaking him and boxing him in behind the parked bus.
1:40 bloody cyclist doing the speed of the traffic and overtaking vehicles? angry an nothing but the idea its a bike, causes accidents and rushing, as a motorbiker you should know exactly how this feels and end sup
this is horror to me. not because of these situations but because every video I watch about driving in England, every street is so narrow, there are so many people on the roads, absolutely packed these narrow streets.. hate it
Rule 178 of the Highway Code states: "Motorists, including motorcyclists, MUST stop at the first white line reached if the lights are amber or red if able to brake in time and safely.... there are videos of motorists being fined by police here on YT.
Rule 178 also says "If your vehicle has proceeded over the first white line at the time that the signal goes red, you should stop as soon as possible and MUST stop at the second white line." Which is what the scooter rider is possibly trying to tell the cyclist judging by his hand gestures.
@@MartyULC but you should never be in that situation if the way ahead is not clear, they should stay behind the first white line if they cannot clear the junction so there is ZERO excuse ever to be in the box. it's always lazy drivers/motorcclists who try to chance an amber, going too fast to stop at an amber/red or simply don't give a shit. The HC is often ambiguous and alows for 'interpretation', the onl reason a vehicle proceeds over the (first) white line and the signal goes red is because they failed to observe that they could not clear the junction.
@@ynotnilknarf39 can you show me where in the highway code it says that? Surely there would be no need for the rule I highlighted if that were the case.
@@MartyULC it states you should not go past the solid stop line if the junction is not clear. Rule 178 of the Highway Code states: "Motorists, including motorcyclists, MUST stop at the first white line reached if the lights are amber or red and should avoid blocking the way or encroaching on the marked area at other times, e.g. if the junction ahead is blocked. Also proceeed (on green) if it is safe to do so, this also ignores that proceeding into the ASL creates a danger/hazard to vulnerable road users The last bit of 178, is the important part, the HC as usual creates ambiguity and an 'out' for motorists when it could be changed to be absolutely clear. This also reduces motorists blocking the way for pedestrians and other motorists coming across and also making it difficult for long vehicles turning. Something like, YOU MUST NOT enter the ASL (go past the first solid white line) if there is not enough space to clear the junction before the lights turn amber. This would solidify the rule as well as the rule with regards proceeding on green.
@@ynotnilknarf39 apart from the subtle but important difference between the use and meaning of the words "should" and "must" in the highway code there's the phrase "if able to brake in time and safely" if the lights turned amber as the scooter was about to cross the first stop line then the rider would have to, by law, stop in the ASL box. It's not an uncommon scenario and whilst I agree you should avoid being in that situation it can happen to even the most conscientious rider occasionally.
Believe it or not the cyclist on the road is not the idiot, I learned the hard way that if you just ride on the side Cars will pass dangerously close & fast to you, so it's just better to take up the entire Road to prevent that from happening
I am glad I do not live in a city or town , people just do not realise the stress they are putting themselves under ,I will stick to my country lifestyle and stay away from the contested places
Most villagers drive like tools, speeding in their own and others villages, not giving a shit about people on cycles or foot and contesting their spaces and having a huge disparity to the standard they expect others to drive where they live but don't abide to that standard themselves! They have no more respect or regard than other drivers in built up areas in my experiences on the road from all view points (car cycle foot)
So focused was he on the cyclists, who was breaking no laws, that he missed the white car to his left creeping over the line on red, which is an offence.
I don’t believe I saw a bike that actually complied with the requirements for reflectors on the road. Great source of fines to boost the council coffers.
Cyclists want right but they don’t respect the pedestrians right , drivers right, they cycling like they own the road and pavement. They think they are on Competition. When cyclists will have the license plate like car and they start issue tickets like cars . For broken the rule .
My favorite clip was the last one. The cop was pretty cool. In 1982 a cop followed me for about a 1/3 of a mile as I was getting to work. He pulled up behind me and said, he thought my rear tire was bald. Of course it's going to bald when I'm moving. He was surprised then left.
Nothing to do with traffic but I wanted to add a cop story heehee I was at a new year celebration in bonny Scotland no drink allowed in glass bottles .I had a 2 litre plastic bottle filled with alcohol and I couldn't get the lid off because of me gloves copper sees me walks towards me and I say to my partner here we go troubles afoot ! NOPE ! Copper comes over takes me bottle opens it and gives me it back with the lid smiles and walks OFF .A sound example of an officer of the law doing his job and not being overtaken by his EGO . They do still exist.
Used to love driving through london before i retired ,used to go round trafalger sq,no one got in my way . Mind you i was in a 50 foot 38 ton Artic .lol
I'm a cyclist and if I see a huge lorry made of steel and things that can kill me I give then plenty of space and I always make sure I know what he's going to do before moving .That muppet on that scooter probably had no idea how close they came to being squashed.
As a cyclist I would say it looked like a misjudged overtake with a vehicle coming in the opposite direction, although in the distance it's difficult to tell.
2:40 I actually admire people that can turn the other cheek like that. I would have dragged him up and down the street for grabbing my helmet like that who does he think he is
That's the problem with full lids , plus geezer would have had to park bike , remove helmet, open door , drag geezer out of vehicle , proceed to instruct driver , then everything in reverse while holding up oodles of traffic, and we didn't know if there was a big bear of another guy sitting next to him .(Let it go live another day no pain lots to gain.)
By far the worst offender is the lady on the scooter at 2:45... wearing a hi-vis and a helmet so she must have some sense, yet she cuts across traffic on a green light and sits on the tarmac when she could just dismount and use the crossing island as a pedestrian. Silver medal to the black Merc C-class who clearly did not see her and would have run her down if she had not stopped. I look forward to starting riding myself soon, and never having to do it in London hopefully!
1:20, the box is probably open on purpose to show that it is empty rather than having thieves try to smash and grab. Same reason you often see lorry trailers with their doors aand shutters open when sitting at the side of the road. better to make it clear it is empty than have to repair a damaged door.
those mopeds break every rule of the road. The cyclist zone at traffic lights is not for mopeds. Taxis too sometimes wait in the cyclist zone when they are not supposed to. I hope the government bring in fines for them, and record it on cctv
"Cyclist Not Looking" Wait, a cyclist who is riding in his lane should be looking backwards for a motorbike coming from the wrong lane into his lane across the zigzag line?
@@akamood Mate, he's already in that lane. You are the one who's going into a different lane, somewhere where you're not even allowed to. You're the one in the wrong.
Ok this is just a funny story about an entitled motorcyclist: When I was in high school the first year I was there my bus crashed on the way to school, we got hit by a speeding lorry on the wrong side of the road and we went into a ditch, long story short we all got off the bus only some were injured etc and our principal came to the scene and made sure we were alright and brought a replacement bus, they blocked off the road but a motorcyclist got passed the road blocks and thought they would just saunter on past 50 shaking students, my principal absolutely bolocked them and their little waddle backwards was hilarious :)
too many offences by bikers & cyclists to list, riding on the wrong side of the road, overtaking the lead vehicle within the zig-zag lines of a crossing, crossing solid white line etc etc....to name just a few