Core i7 14700K OC vs Ryzen 7 7800X3D - Test in 10 Games 

No final do mês essa diferença da U$2 a mais na conta de luz.

its desktop, no one really cares about power draw unless it limits PSU

@@sevrent2811 Ofc people look that, more w is more heat to cool. that i7 draws like 3060ti already.

Cyberpunk AMD 78w Intel 173w Starfield AMD- 84w Intel 180w Wtf🤣🤣🤣

No need to upgrade your CPU every two gen anyways

@@Sims64340Depends, if you start with 7500f and want tp upgrade. For gaming a potential 9800x3d will be huge. If you looking dor workspace power a 12 or 16 Core will be even bigger. And yes no sense from 7800x3d to 9800x3d. Usually the GPU limits here.

so what there is no need to upgrade for atleast two more generations on intel if you have a Z790 II version motherboard and a 14 th gen processor especially at the high end you also already get good ddr5 speeds support upto 8000+ mhz, wifi 7 and when it comes to productivity intel whoops amd on consumer level and gaming is just as good in some titles better the only good thing about amd is it power efficiency and the 3d v cache on x3d processor which gives games a little bit more edge compared to intel processors but not in all games mostly people who will buy intel i9 and i7 will have a beefy cooler anyways and the power consumption wont be an issue for them.

the temp is similar you nimrod, Intel even cooler in some games, maybe watch the video first

@@Sims64340 I upgraded from a 2600 to a 5700X3D and it only costed me 200usd. No need to buy a new mobo.

Но почему-то проблема со сгоревшими СPU была только у Ryzen 7000X3D😂

@@Jikser2030 haha true 😂

@@Jikser2030 not true, that problem was specific to one motherboard manufacturer who were overvolting them which was fixed, not due to the chips theirselves.

What are you talking about 14700k is in normal gaming temperatures. Heck I have i5 12500h + rtx 3060 laptop for 2 years now while gaming everyday at 70-80 CPU temps. Still working fine.

@@Jikser2030 а теперь у 13900/14700/14900 - на всех вендорах материнских плат - овервольтаж и нужно включать специальный "сертифицированный" пресет напряжения от intel, с ощутимой потерей производительности, чтоб система не BSoDила больше. А историй с R7 7800X3D больше - нет)

@@EmeraldDreami Unless we got direct comparison benchmarks, it's still not worthy. That furnace consume double the power of the 7800x3d

​@@Luke_96💯👍

@@EmeraldDreami The Raptor Lake architecture has good undervolt and overclock headroom I take the i7 any day. However if you want to be able to upgrade easily in the future then right now the only option is AM5. But as a PC builder I take the i7, excluding the platform upgrade ability consideration. I myself have chosen to build an Intel 14th gen system for myself. I do not want to keep the same motherboard for over 5 years.... In 5 years from now boards will have new features I will want, so to me long term platform support is not something important. Also, motherboards don't last that long.

unless you turn on all the applications Discord alike, 7800x3d is worse for 1440p and when you're streaming or have 2 monitors

@@user-tc4tz8ww1z Bro, it consume double the power. No undervolt can make it more efficient without sacrificing raw power. Also the mobo argument doesn't make any sense, im not even gonna argue about it. Just compare Zen1 to Zen3..... and if all you need is a new mobo, just upgrade the mobo and keep the cpu. Backward compatibility is a thing

Achieving a stable 5.9 GHz on the 14700K typically requires careful tuning. Here are some key steps and considerations: 1. **Voltage and Cooling**: Yes, achieving such high clock speeds usually necessitates high voltages, which in turn requires robust cooling solutions, such as custom water cooling or high-end air cooling, to manage the increased thermal output. 2. **Hyperthreading**: Disabling Hyperthreading can help in reaching higher clock speeds as it reduces the overall thermal and power load on the CPU. However, this means sacrificing multi-threaded performance, so it's a trade-off depending on your use case. 3. **Silicon Lottery**: Not all CPUs are created equal due to manufacturing variances. Some chips naturally overclock better than others, so results can vary widely based on the specific CPU you have. 4. **RAM Overclocking**: You’re right that the Intel platform benefits significantly from RAM overclocking. High-frequency RAM with tight timings can provide substantial performance gains, often more so than pushing the absolute limits of the CPU clock speed. To achieve the best balance, it’s essential to find the optimal settings for both your CPU and RAM. Combining a moderate CPU overclock with aggressive RAM tuning often yields the best overall system performance.

​@@teambuddy7148bro straight up pasted chatgpt

@@teambuddy7148 looks like a chatGPT answer from reddit or quora

@@teambuddy7148 can you do the tutorial for that?

You don't. I've tried a few and one did 5.3 stable, 2 did 5.4 and one did 5.5 at a massive 1.42v. The silicone isn't great and yes, they could game at maybe 100mhz higher, but would crash under any high load like cinebench. You get a 14/13900k, overclock it and say it's a 14700k...

Let's just hope we don't have to wait a year and a half after the launch of Zen 5 for it like we did with the 5800X3D.

@@selohcin they were still developing 3D-VCache when Zen 3 came out. Hence why it took so long for the 5800x3d to arrive. Old rumors say Zen 5 3D-VCahce processors will arrive in January, but I heard they're trying some new engineering with the chips so who knows.

@@m8x425 No, they were not. AMD showed off the X3D technology in the same presentation where they unveiled the Ryzen 5000 CPUs.

You don’t make any sense, EVERY new release is god like until the next imposter roles along 😂

2.5x more cpu cores too with the intel.

@@otto5423 Wayne

​@@otto5423and they are all low perfomance ones. They could put 32 e cores in there, still wouldn't help a bit in gaming.

@@elpato3190 there is more to a pc than a benchmark. I would like to use my pc without it using all of the cores just for gaming. I mean in the EU, the 7800x3d costs 400 $ for 8 cores in 2024. for what marginal increase in 1080p with a 4090.... Realistic resolution with such hardware😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.

of course, this 14700k has a balls to the walls overclock. About the E-Cores. The cache structure is similar to Skylake-X, so don't expect great gaming performance or latency out of them.

and price

Who tf gives a shit about power consumption when you have a pc like this...

@@Razvan_. lmao

@@Razvan_. many people do. electricity isnt cheap even for people that buy components like that.

Since when power consumption in an issue? Maybe it’s me but electricy is cheap

Then youre testing gpu instead of cpu

в 1080p нагрузка на процессор, в 2к и в 4к упор идет в видеокарту, хоть поставь i3-12100f и rtx 4090 в 4к да, в 1080p нет

I dont think that will be an issue for anyone, who is able to buy a pc like that.

@@kissadam9494 It will be when the i7 burns itself out lol The 7800X3D is just sipping power, while the i7 is reeing at the top of its lungs.

I only saw 190W in Starfield

@@joshuapicarello what do you mean? Its usage was much less and also its temperatures. What you are talking about happens to the 14900

@@kissadam9494 Tossing money out the window with intel pig of the chip That is one of the reasons I went from intel to AMD they lost the power efficiency test. Your statement is a assumption based in ignorance.

A higher end board. There are still some stability issues with the cheaper Z790 boards.

Yes, it is, but look at that power draw! Nobody would want to leave their CPU like that 24/7, especially for gaming.

I suggest not to upgrade. I have an I5 13600k, and "upgraded" to 14700k. The refreshed 13th gen 14700k pushes out moore heat with an even beefier AIO. Games run well with the rtx4080, and I mean both of these CPUs. 13600k is a little beast.

@@gromoffinland4990is this build worthwhile, 14700k + 4090 ?

Bro it wont make a difference Raytracing still gets rendered by the GPU

​@Nicx343x No, ray tracing is also heavy on the cpu, it was proven many times, watch Daniel Owen

Idle is both low as hell my 13900k consumes 15-30W

its irrelevant cause 30sec of having the cpu at load, it will offset any benefit intel has over amd in idle..

my 7800x3d eats ~30w idle

my 7800x3d 40w

My ryzen 9 5900x idles around 40W my I7 13700k while watching this vid and typing is 18W to give you an idea.

It will burn itself via motherboard and PC desk. Are you crazy 😂 the peak Cpower of 14700K is somewhere around 350W and you need to push it even higher? Lol

@@samohraje2433 RAM speed doesn’t increase power consumption

@@od1sseas663 it does but it's not a significant increase in power consumption. I don't think the guy you're replying to understood that you're talking about the RAM.

I can run 7000 CL34 dual rank 2x32gb on my Z790 Nova. Mid 50s latency. Would smoke this X3D. My APEX does 8400 C38.

@@TalonsTechSo a rich man’s build.

Ofc it is. If you can keep the temps under 55c the cpu will automatically oc itself to 5GHz without any problems. With manual oc is also possible but i reccomend to not exceeding 65c at 5.1-5.2GHz if you care about your cpu. With more voltage you need to keep that cpu as cool as possible. Maybe i'm overreacting a bit but spending more on cooling always pay itself with better performance.

@@samohraje2433 5K is the base OC but I read that it isnt recommended to pull towards..

@@gachibass3639 it is totally fine. 5.1 the best, 5.2 max. Not more than 5.2 because as you might know, when you overclock a cpu, at some point it start to gain not as much power bennefit as the TDP. I have i7 2600K at 4.9GHz but if i want to push it to the 5GHz mark, i will need to increase a voltage by another 200mV which is signifficant and will cause overheating even i have an Aio with all copper radiator

Read the title of the video.

In serbia for 240$

@@ezioauditore8946 😂

Где? В оранжевом магазе он сейчас от 45 рубасов.

@@ANARCHY_13 Алик конечно

на али недавно заказывал за 26к

All he is testing in just gaming with CPU not fully utilized so there would be no guarantee outside gaming benchmarks. Maybe this CPU wouldn't pass the first 05 seconds of cinebench or similar CPU testing applications. It may crash suddenly.

@@gameotic1 a 14700K is impossible to use 100% in any game currently available in the market, the overclocking done is all core but a single core is enough to crash the system... being a "big" YT channel, they send him samples of excellent quality, the basis of marketing

@@_xewo_9856 the point is "CPU isn't utilized" if the program is not utilizing the CPU 100 you can't check the stability. Games can't take the full advantage of all CPU cores. Even an i9 9900k won't be 100% utilized in games(according to monitoring softwares) but it will deliver less FPS. But the applications like cinebench will stress the CPU and take the complete advantage of CPU thus showing 100% usage in monitoring software(MSI afterburner).

@@gameotic1 Incorrectly, (today's) games use at least 1/2 cores at 100% but the stability of the same does not depend on this but on the given instruction set. Cinebench is just a brute scoring and power software that will test your entire CPU but not the individual core. Precisely it uses the best core identified by the system, only OCCT allows control and cyclic testing (with several sets of instructions), which of your cores (single core) is unstable. I can get my 7950x to 5.5ghz all core without crashing and complete the 30 minute Cinebench test, as I open Overwatch 2 the system crashes. Forget Cinebench to check CPU stability, Cinebench is just scoring with an unrealistic instruction set for 100% of users

not all cpu are the same

@@user-gq3eq5bf9t ok but differences are not so significant

That's not how CPU's work ,there's more than just useage %

@@hannes0000 Um, when the scenes in the games are more demanding thats when the frame rate dips and you need more cpu overhead. Its why professional esports guys use Intel only. Games are only going to get more demanding. Don’t believe me. Best explained here. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vvNu3qkx8FM.htmlsi=oBkVJ371BMjNtUEV

good choice.

интел универсальнее. Для ресурсоемких програм интел продуктивнее и в играх хорош, не хуже райзена

у нас $550 за amd и intel

well duh its overclocked it gonna consume more power even then before but it is now mostly faster in games compared to the 7800x3d

What a stock means. No turbo enabled or with a turbo. Intel performs a bit worse than 7800x3d with turbo enabled.

@@samohraje2433 he has one stock also just found

Это в каком месте более дешёвая цена

Show us the performance with an average PC build & stock intel settings.

@@devinfraserashpole4753 Why would you run stock settings on an Intel K chip. As demonstrated in this video Intel i5 and i7 overlock excellent. It’s the i9 that is near maxed out. And this video doesn’t come shoenthe huge gains still to add from memory OC. AMD X3D doesn’t overlock/cant be overlocked. The Intel can be OC to have great gaming and monster multi core. The AMD chip is for people that don’t need a ton of raw CPU performance. It’s kinda the dummy build. Put it in and forget it. But you u sacrifice almost half of the overall CPU performance to have a good gaming chip at 1080p low. It makes no sense lol.

@@TalonsTech According to Hardware Unboxed, it does make sense to use a 7800X3D for gaming as at stock settings, the AMD is better than Intel and at a lower price. For you, as someone that has access to the cash to build with Z790 Apex Mobos and very fast RAM, review their performance and make videos about it. It makes sense for you.

Userbenchmark backup channel?!

It's done to intentionally create a cpu bottleneck. If it were higher resolutions, then most games would be bound by the performance of the GPU instead of the cpu.

@@cyberlogic3102 True, but it only shows that the test is useless. Even on this resolution it's only a narrow win for the 14700K and most players will play higher resolution with no fps difference at all. Also, why is the Intel chip overclocked?

@@eudyptes5046 Does not really make the test useless, it would help for people deciding on future GPUs, and seeing how much potential their CPU will have if they got one.

if you have a cpu that is 3 years old, the 7800X3D is probably way better in productivity tasks, than your cpu

I'd hardly call that a victory. They're close enough to each other where you'd never notice a difference in game without a fps counter. Ryzen is far cheaper overall and consumes less power.

@@oxaile4021 and the intel chip was overclocked too while the ryzen wasn't so not a fair comparison.

Overclocking isn't dumb. It's a good way to gain slightly more performance at no extra cost. Shortening life span is so minimal it's almost unnoticeable if done correctly. Heck I was running a 8600k @ 1.46v for 6 years straight. I noticed zero degradation in that time. Keep the temps down and you'll be fine.

well this depends on how risky is your overclock a minor overclock wont affect cpu life.

DUDE i'm still running on SandyBridge i7 2600K since 2013 with nonstop OC 1.46V 4.9GHz but anything above is dangerous. I have also Liquid AIO with all copper radiator, single 120mm. Temps are in the safest range possible, never exceeding 63c in summer's hottest days using Y-cruncher as a benchmark test. As soon as you can keep the temps in the safe range ( voltage addicted, with more Vcore you need a better cooling headroom) you can OC your 7800X3D also at 5.1-5.2GHz but it is not neccessary. 7800x3d is still powerfull enough right out of the box. And ofc i was only changing GPU's in my system. 32GB DDR3 2400MHz OC with active cooling because those dimms are only 2133 so i cranked a voltage a bit and also i shortened the timing as well by 1 so i have pretty much the fastest memory what my mobo can support with better timing. I experienced ZERO bluescreens what so ever during that 11y OC maraton. But even at those clock speeds, the CPU is a bottleneck using 1070Ti GPU. There is no point to upgrade GPU for me

@@samohraje2433 And the 920 could be overclocked well in 2010. That was then now is now. Overclocking More bit flips, more heat, more electricity, less stability and in 2024 I said not 20122. The gains are not worth the time, risk, etc over all. I've over clocked in the past find no need in 2024 its a silly kids game. Not common in corporate server world with good reason. I've seen more harm than good over all. Its a hobby at best.

Tell us you've never overclocked without telling us you've never overclocked

not sure which one you mean now

Yeah no yes in efficiency but no for performance i7 14700k won in that department

what, this is bs

no they arent intel have more features especially the z790 version II you get better ddr5 speed support 8000+ mhz, wifi 7 and better overclockability with the k series processors from intel the only downside i see is they are just not as energy efficient as amd processors

@@TheOne214wait for the 9800X3D. It will destroy even 15th gen intel cpu in gaming. 8000MHz isn't everything. If you spend more money on lower MHz ram you can get better timings on those sticks. 6000MHz is the sweet spot where it can offer lower timings by quite a lot. And lower timings mean snappiest system and better responsiveness from the CPU-RAM communication. I have only DDR3 2133 but on the stock timings i have 11-12-12 and after my OC and active cooling, i have 9-9-9 at 2400MHz but... 1.7V instead of 1.5 🫠

@@TheOne214 You can get wifi 7 with a wifi card in a PCIe slot

​@@TheOne214 its a very very small difference with faster ram in this case i mean those CPUs have the almost same performance

@@Nicx343x faster ram makes a difference on intel cpus not amd

Power consumption also adds up to the cost of supporting components. More expensive cooling, more expensive motherboard, more expensive PSU... Having a 300W gpu doesn't mean the cpus power draw is irrelevant. 2 negatives don't make a positive.

I have a 7800X3D with an RTX4070TI. I must say, they're both pretty power efficient.

@@oxaile4021 Yeah but people that can afford expensive hardware generally don't care about electricity prices.

@@kylelochner5686 That isn't true at all. I'm gonna assume you're a kid who doesn't pay for their own living for even thinking that.

Intel is on outdated node. Next cpu's are going to be superior in efficiency.

Yes right

vegetable cores?

​@@od1sseas663vegetable cores, scam cores, or as Intel calls them "efficiency cores" basically completely useless cores that have horrible perfomance for anything other than inflating artificial benchmarks. Games need fast single thread perfomance, the e cores can't do multi thread and have horrible single core perfomance.

@@elpato3190 lol