Corinna Cohn. Cori and Sam talk otherness, detransition and finding peace beyond regret 

The honesty in these discussions is very refreshing.

I really enjoyed this peacefull conversation. A thought that stuck with me was something Corinna said: if you hate yourself, the overpouring support will not seem sincere to you (and byt the way it isn't sincere). Not in these exact words, but in that direction. Thanks, both of you!

Thank you for the discussion. I agree very much with what Sam says about illusion, and when working as a therapist I felt it was part of my task to help clients come to terms with reality rather than deny or escape it. I stayed away from discussion of the religious or spiritual because I'm not a priest and that's not how I could help; I didn't challenge those kind of beliefs either and invited clients instead to think about their histories and develop insight about how they see themselves and their way of relating to others. I don't feel the T+ belongs at the end of LGB, and one of my concerns is that the developing backlash against gender ideology will hurt L and G. It is already doing so. T+ is the only activism that demands that others see you as you see yourself, on pain of denunciation and recrimination. This is unhealthy for the individuals concerned and also for society as a whole. None of this means that trans people should be discriminated against, it just means that others shouldn't be forced to be complicit in the denial of the dimorphic nature of the sexes. And only then can androgyny be expressed and accepted.

Acceptance requires humility. To reach the awareness that brings humility requires the letting go of the ruling domination of the ego that rewards with distraction or dissociation. Until humankind stops struggling or ignoring reality itself, it will struggle to notice that it is really just searching for meaning in the mysterious journey that is life.The healing resonance and message of self acceptance found in this conversation between these beautiful souls could heal the chaos of this gender madness and the inevitable political extremism and social division so deeply embedded in our modern society. Sadly their message won't be heard above the noise of narcissistic compassion that is so prevalent in our current place in our human evolution. However, this humble soul appreciated it. Thanks.

I AM SOOOO SORRRRRY FOR HIM THAT HE FELT HE DIDN'T NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT HE ACTUALLY HAD CONTROL TO CHANGE IN HIS LIFE....😢😢😢😢😢

Loved this interview! Thank you. You both are adorable.

Oh, I am just so pleased i came across this conversation with both of you! I first heard Corinna on BB's podcast and then listened to the Heterodorx podcast and, wait! Animals? Corinna is a cat person for sure...I got into Sam reading David Whytes' poetry and then realised Sam was going through a major life change called 'detransitioning". So glad you are a dog person, Sam - they will save us from ourselves - I say this as a rescue Staffy mum , who likes solitude and found so much joy in rehoming an anxious, despondent, dog who turned out to be an angel. Stay strong both of you - really great to hear you with your diverging, yet, at times convergent views.💞

Dr. Hegstrom's book, "Broken Children, Grown Up Pain", is insightful on childhood trauma. His other work is equally helpful to understand the process of brokeness and healing. ♥

I do my best to befriend pain knowing it does not define the all of me. This miracle of being continues to teach me to surrender to the light through the cracks of the self. The sharp edges of those cracks still cut while the light heals. Honing my skill in embracing this paradox slowly blossoms the rose and thorns within the sun and storm. Love hurts and heals. My heart, spirit and soul wisdom of peace shares the broken pieces of it, the is of God. Blessings, Layne

Two lovely and lovable souls. ❤️

So glad for this honest conversation - it brings tears into my eyes. Cohn is doing kind of budhist practice called Maranasati - remembering death. Western culture outside religions avoid such thoughts, maybe because it is final proof we are no gods and absolutely less powerful than nature. And more on funny side Pratched wrote: death is great equalizer. To add small piece to discussion about meaning of life - to see and love the world in its beauty may be in itself good reason for existence of human kind. Nature somehow still enjoys us and allows us to continue discovering outside world but also inner biology and psychology. Experiences as such are valuable.

Love to both of you, lovely and amazing men.

Great video. Love and prayers as always ❤🙏🌺

Sam no matter what you are what God meant you to be. You can not hide from God and eventually you must come back and hand it over to him he is your heavenly Father and loves you unconditionally. Be who you are sam a perfect soul. Carmel

I think you have such a powerful message to share with people who are struggling but also those who want to understand to help others. What a powerful sense of purpose that is - some are lost without it. Do you think this departure from reality is "detachment" - a coping mechanism to give emotional relief. Im glad you felt safe enough to have that cry x

"We have othered ourselves".....oh boy, but true acceptance lies in the fact that there is NOBODY out there that is like us and that uniqueness is our magic. It makes us special. We need to move away from black and white thinking on all things. Many do not fit tightly into the male/female category anyway. To accept our uniqueness is what makes us find peace. Im glad youre crying and allowing to feel the pain because you need to allow your feelings to keep up with all the intellectualising 🫂 Just love the tattoo analogy you used.

I enjoy technical problems. Humanizes you computer geniuses. I relate to the difficulty letting go of anger about trauma even though I have different traumas. Nice interview guys.

I enjoyed this very much. At the point of talking about the aggression of India, I began wondering if either of you have advocated or voiced your concerns in any way against the advent of actual laws to criminalize any dissent to the trans movement.

Great to have a conversation again; you two are so wonderfully different. About being "shallow": that may be an inborn temperament trait. Not everyone is interested in digging deep into human psychology. Labeling "shallowness" always as a coping mechanism and a strategy of suppressing trauma, is not right. Some people are doers and directed more to things and to how things work than the complexities of the psyche and social relations. I'm guessing that somewhat more men than women have this trait, but that is just an observation I have made. Sam, maybe you would like to tell how you found poetry. Did somebody recommend you a book, or was it just a random pick at the bookstore or the library? Do you have any background in reading poetry in youth? How about a little talk about this at some point?

Hi Sam. I propose that all people find themselves in a state of incompleteness. Incompleteness of thought, or feeling, of action, of form. One scripture says, 'We love, because he first loved us." By love, God reconciles us to Himself, and in that, we reconcile ourselves to our inner man. God paints us a picture of Christ's complete destruction and tells us,'this is your death'. He then resurrects, and he tells us, "This is your resurrection. We understand our restoration as firstly been played out in the Godhead, and then, in its order, imparted to us. We are at peace, when Christ has achieved our shalom with God. GOD knows when a sparrow falls. How much more, we men. Bless you, brother.

Animals are conscious beings to a different extent than humans, but they think, have feelings and deserve as much kindness as us, whether you believe it or not!

This was a fascinating discussion. The next 10 years are going to be interesting. I wonder, if we, as a society continue to become distanced from nature, our bodies, truth...will there be a strong but smaller faction of trans ideology that survives? Not unlike the artifice of other body modification in say, Hollywood or Orange County

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Two lovely adult human weirdos! 😘

We don’t find ourselves, we find God. We make ourselves, wherein we develop the habits and responses to our outside world that shape our physical bodies and minds. God is the ultimate creator, but he made us to be creative like him. Been a long time since I’ve been able to watch a video. You look well Sam. Thank you both

I wish you all the best to returning back to a male. I can barely hear you 😞 i can't listen anymore, your voice is a whisper 😮‍💨 Can't hear your friend at all 😮

Lol, Dam you are turning into the Father Confessor.j