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Cornel West Sounds Off on Obama's Nobel Peace Prize 

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Cornel West congratulates President Obama on receiving the Nobel Peace Prize, but cautions that the honor comes with tremendous responsibility. "It's going to be hard to be a war president with a Peace Prize," he says.
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In this intimate exploration, one of America's most gifted and provocative public intellectuals peels back the layers of a remarkable life. - Los Angeles Public Library
Cornel West is a philosopher, author, critic, and civil rights activist. His works include The Ethical Dimensions of Marxist Thought, Race Matters, and The African-American Century: How Black Americans Have Shaped Our Century.

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@GuppyPal
@GuppyPal 15 лет назад
"Peace is not the absence of conflict, peace is the presence of justice." I like it.
@Kronx1970
@Kronx1970 15 лет назад
This is why I respect and admire Cornel West so much. I've heard 100 different opinions on Obama and the peace prize and never has ONE person mentioned "I wish his mother and father had lived to see this moment." It's always the rhetoric of whether he deserves it or not, which Brother West does discuss, but only after giving sincere congrats and heartfelt wishes for The President's family. That's class. That's a perspective I wish more people naturally shared -- including myself.
@YVO007
@YVO007 4 года назад
You are what you practice keep trying you'll do just fine.YVO
@freesk8
@freesk8 15 лет назад
"Hard to be a war president with a peace prize..." "ships in every sea..." Wonderful! I like what this guy said. Obama is sending more troops to Afghanistan and gets the Nobel Peace Prize. Makes the Nobel Prize in to even more of a joke than it was when they gave it to Yassar Arafat, PW deKlerk, Teddy Roosevelt or Paul Krugman.
@SagesseNoir
@SagesseNoir 14 лет назад
@ColdGripHandle A black elder tells me that when Dr. King visited Baltimore in 1967 he said to some group something to the effect that "The real difference between us and our bemused white brethren is not that they're free and we're not, but that we KNOW we're not free while they believe they are."
@SagesseNoir
@SagesseNoir 14 лет назад
@karizmatik1 Which one of his books did you read that gave you that impression?
@QMPhilosophe
@QMPhilosophe 11 лет назад
Giving Obama the Peace Prize was like giving Danica Patrick a Safe Driving Certificate. Bu then again, Henry Kissinger and Menachem Begin also won the Nobel Peace Prize.
@Yabbablabba
@Yabbablabba 15 лет назад
You have the subtlety of a Mack truck, only no one seems to be at the wheel.
@Phunkywhiteboy
@Phunkywhiteboy 14 лет назад
@Gearhe1d wow, very solid point. I thought that you were just talking about what he says in this video.
@Infinity161
@Infinity161 14 лет назад
I felt that I should have been given the Nobel Peace Prize. Qualifications? Well, my name is NOT George W Bush. What else was required?
@Gearhe1d
@Gearhe1d 14 лет назад
I stayed home all day and promised to become a better person. Where' my prize? I promised didn't I?
@The442nd
@The442nd 14 лет назад
JUSTICE is a word overused by the LAZY.
@ezekielthemack
@ezekielthemack 14 лет назад
@SagesseNoir Totally agree. Never a truer word spoken.
@b0ondockz
@b0ondockz 12 лет назад
"It's gunna be hard to be a war president with a peace prize."... apparently not.
@Yabbablabba
@Yabbablabba 15 лет назад
You don't know the first thing about me sport.
@JayArgonaut
@JayArgonaut 14 лет назад
Same here, parallels with 1973 and Kissinger receiving the peace prize - where was the peace in Vietnam? People were still dying, just as people are still dying everyday in the middle east and central Asia.
@Wittgensteinien
@Wittgensteinien 11 лет назад
Christopher Hitchens put it clearly, it's a virtual prize.
@SagesseNoir
@SagesseNoir 13 лет назад
@eastbaybochat I've actually MET a number of Cornel West's students, and they all describe him aa a GREAT teacher. They talk about the infectious enthusiasm that he brings to teaching, They talk about how he relishes the life of the mind, and encourages students to do likewise. So, I guess a lot depends on WHO you talk to.
@demfan
@demfan 14 лет назад
Regarding 4:23: The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded by a Norwegian committee, not a Swedish one.
@SagesseNoir
@SagesseNoir 13 лет назад
@Petrhrabal What "hippies" are you referring to? Incidently, hippies were rarely if ever Marxists. But I do recall reading that Soviet propagandists often used the word "hippies" to contemptuously describe those known in the West as the "new left." It appears that BOTH Soviet and Western ruling elites despised dissidents. Fortunately, our rulers didn't use tanks as yours did in Prague. But they didn't mind occasionally using state police or National Guard on campuses against "commie hippies."
@ZamatoElite
@ZamatoElite 15 лет назад
I know exactly what racism is, I'm looking right at it. Protect your kind, bro. Protect your kind.
@CaptainBeefy
@CaptainBeefy 14 лет назад
is it just me, or does Cornel West remind you of the black Cosmo Kramer?
@reigellatte17
@reigellatte17 12 лет назад
GO READ IT!
@refusethinkin5228
@refusethinkin5228 12 лет назад
Mr. West, how do your words taste today, swallow and weep.
@Gearhe1d
@Gearhe1d 14 лет назад
@Phunkywhiteboy lol. I should have specified. No harm done man....
@bingomaverick7830
@bingomaverick7830 6 лет назад
Cornel West for the peace prize 2019!
@timmiet47321
@timmiet47321 3 года назад
Trump beat him 3 times!
@Sleepy.Time.
@Sleepy.Time. 15 лет назад
Even the fella speaking can't avoid the fact that Obama was awarded a prize before he had done a damn thing.
@MrShadyJeff
@MrShadyJeff 13 лет назад
@InfinityNebula the strange thing is I'm actually not.
@rushlwms
@rushlwms 13 лет назад
@godscuttingyoudown This was in 2009. So we did indeed have to wait and watch.
@TheDreamReborn
@TheDreamReborn 15 лет назад
Yeah, I said the same thing to myself when he was on Bill Maher 2 weeks ago.
@Yabbablabba
@Yabbablabba 15 лет назад
Well to be fair he DID own an armament manufacturing company. He had the key role in reshaping the iron manufacturer Bofors to a modern cannon manufacturer and chemical industry and is strongly associated with a 40 mm anti-aircraft gun based on a Bofors design. A premature obituary of Nobel by a French newspaper, condemning him for his invention of dynamite, is said to have brought about his decision to leave a better legacy after his death.
@nubbs1320
@nubbs1320 15 лет назад
i took a graduate seminar course on american socialism and we spent the entire first term reading only marx - the communist manifesto, selected readings from das kapital (volumes 1-3), theses on feureback (sp?), on the jewish question, his critique of kant, his views on hegel. we read the peter singer biography. in fact ask me anything on marx or gramsci. ask me about his articles he wrote for the new york times (during the civil war). ask me about his time in soho, anything
@WhyNotTruth
@WhyNotTruth 15 лет назад
What does Morpheus think?
@TheDarkestofHell
@TheDarkestofHell 13 лет назад
@SagesseNoir May seem odd, but thanks, that helped me explain to a few peers how arguments work.
@LiberalLibra
@LiberalLibra 15 лет назад
the guy is a fucking professor.. If racism was eliminated, maybe he would be a Dean? lol
@collinshardyproust
@collinshardyproust Год назад
Audio?
@Propagandhi900
@Propagandhi900 12 лет назад
Although Professor West espouses some great, socialistic ideals...he comes short of being disillusioned with the system. That is his downfall.
@SagesseNoir
@SagesseNoir 14 лет назад
@tnekkc The mere fact that YOU don't understand is not proof that what West says has no meaning.
@bigo30038
@bigo30038 13 лет назад
he was in the class of 1969 Will C Wood Jr High
@B_uttcrumbs
@B_uttcrumbs 15 лет назад
In the same week I heard that he was getting the Nobel and that he was sending 40,000 additional soldiers to war. WTF? ... and one less thing makes sense to me in the world.
@reigellatte17
@reigellatte17 12 лет назад
type into the search bar: Ron Paul drug war
@baronmorris
@baronmorris 15 лет назад
NOT ONLY DOES HE DESERVE IT but I am rather shocked & saddened by all the people who don't realize why he deserves it, who feel their judgement is superior to the Nobel Committee, & who at the same time do nothing to better inform themselves or reconsider their prejudice against Obama in light of this or many dozens of other obvious indicators that Obama is an exceptionally positive&inspiring leader. He gives me (& BILLIONS of others) real & enduring hope for our collective future. Peace to ALL.
@tnekkc
@tnekkc 14 лет назад
Was not slavery still legal when the South succeeded? What was there problem anyway? Could it have been, TAXES?
@OKandNOWwhat
@OKandNOWwhat 13 лет назад
@Monscent I understand your point. My point was that while Dr. West's judgment of Obama, past recipients, and the Nobel Peace Prize committee-though apparently correct-was harsh and exacting, and that even if the law of retribution required that someone must do likewise to him, your cavil avoided the substantive issues on which you could have based your objection and remained-because of your being offended-upon the personal level, which is of no use in intellectual discourse. Bless you
@Verminpariah
@Verminpariah 14 лет назад
Preach,brother,preach!!!Well said indeed.
@cebu1a
@cebu1a 15 лет назад
What the hell did Obama do to win the Nobel Peace Prize???? What a joke this President is.
@reigellatte17
@reigellatte17 12 лет назад
The second reason (this might burst your bubble) is because he wants to end the ineffective drug war by legalizing and decriminalizing drugs... hmmm... so tough to figure out!!!
@halflifeproductionz
@halflifeproductionz 13 лет назад
nobel PEACE prize. sort of like the K in the knife in the voters back.
@Yabbablabba
@Yabbablabba 15 лет назад
You're inebriated, as Disraeli put it, by the exuberance of your own verbosity.
@CASTILLOM1
@CASTILLOM1 15 лет назад
A black style of expressing himself?? He is black!!! Hence the style.
@nubbs1320
@nubbs1320 15 лет назад
here's an idea - how about YOU try reading books that aren't about harry potter or hobbits. what are you in high school or something? lecturing people on what books to read when you've probably never gotten through a single book that didn't have vampires or dragons in them. lol
@ZamatoElite
@ZamatoElite 15 лет назад
I'm sure it was.
@Prka01
@Prka01 13 лет назад
The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke. In 1994 it was given to Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin. Enough said.
@Harleyglide03
@Harleyglide03 14 лет назад
@tnekkc Thank you for getting to the heart of the matter.... the BS.....right on point.
@tnekkc
@tnekkc 14 лет назад
@khghountch Is Chomsky as good at math as Kazinsky? Is Chomsky as good at politics as Palin? Is West as good at speaking as Kim Kardashian? No, No, No.
@nubbs1320
@nubbs1320 15 лет назад
cornell west would be unemployed if racism was eliminated. think about it.
@SRAANG01
@SRAANG01 12 лет назад
The president needs to give his Nobel Peace Prize back. He didn't deserve it and he's broken more domestic and international laws than Bush. I regret even voting for him...
@selfexplanitory
@selfexplanitory 14 лет назад
Great point Dr West
@tnekkc
@tnekkc 14 лет назад
There are a million reasons for doing anything, and the ones cited are not always the driver. 4 generations ago, we were divided over whether blacks were human or not. For 2 generations we have been divided over whether fetuses are human or not. No one is willing to go to war over it. But if there were a war, they will use every moral issue they can find to motivate the troops.
@Yabbablabba
@Yabbablabba 15 лет назад
Nubbs has a penchant for spectacle so I thought I would indulge him. He might be and interesting character if he got over himself. Thanks for being a voice of reason. ;)
@joyariffic
@joyariffic 14 лет назад
@JayArgonaut that makes the peace prize so ironic now
@nubbs1320
@nubbs1320 15 лет назад
who heard wrong. read a newspaper or something
@Yabbablabba
@Yabbablabba 15 лет назад
Well I'm white and I don't feel the least bit excluded from the conversation. Spare me your victim mentality and character projection.
@upabittoolate
@upabittoolate 14 лет назад
@LawrenceErnie You should probably read something.
@song4night
@song4night 12 лет назад
he's trying to be a diplomatic black leader who calls snake oil by another name
@ZamatoElite
@ZamatoElite 15 лет назад
It's not a conjecture. Racism is not always overt.
@michaelduggan1890
@michaelduggan1890 4 года назад
I think I should read this book by Cornell West . I'm sure I would learn something .
@reigellatte17
@reigellatte17 12 лет назад
Even if he is racist, a libertarian, especially Ron, usually has a deep faith in the Constitution because that document alone grants most of what all human beings need or would want. Ex: life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, EQUALITY
@Yabbablabba
@Yabbablabba 15 лет назад
Anyone who would claim to be too smart for anything is neither smart nor too smart. Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to post comments that remove all doubt.
@Monscent
@Monscent 13 лет назад
@OKandNOWwhat He was swedish but the Peace price has always been nominated and awarded by the Norwegians. I don't see why you feel the need to make excuses for this? I am always of the opinion that people should research stuff better before they try to pass judgements, apparently mr. West has not done that here.
@tnekkc
@tnekkc 13 лет назад
Cornel West has been getting his inspiration from Professor Irwin Corey.
@LiberalLibra
@LiberalLibra 15 лет назад
Still, the school of thought is motivated by historical figures from Ghandi to Nelson Mandela to MLK ... "Black Liberation Theology" is simply an African American way of defining their own unique ideology, which was pretty much created by Martin Luther King
@Yabbablabba
@Yabbablabba 15 лет назад
You spelled wits wrong...
@Yabbablabba
@Yabbablabba 15 лет назад
He invented dynamite, which has many uses besides the obvious military applications, and he funded the prizes creation so he would be known for more than just destruction.
@buseyisgod
@buseyisgod 11 лет назад
are you talking about aristide? i'll be the first to admit my ignorance of what you're referencing. so i ask, do i need to go to the "deep internets" to find what you're talking about?
@citizenzombie
@citizenzombie 13 лет назад
@tnekkc You don't think it's possible that Corey got inspiration from West?
@nubbs1320
@nubbs1320 15 лет назад
dean of what? sociology? lol african american studies? lol no racism no identity theory no cornell west
@andrewjenkinson8948
@andrewjenkinson8948 13 лет назад
Five minutes of talk - and absolutely nothing said.
@OKandNOWwhat
@OKandNOWwhat 13 лет назад
@Monscent Alfred Nobel was Swedish. Other Nobel prizes are awarded by Swedes. It's an easy faux pas to make. It is easy to see when others are judgmental, but difficult to see when we are.
@xpto228
@xpto228 12 лет назад
I mostly agree with what he says, except that he is totally wrong when it comes to Fredrik de Klerk. de Klerk was crucial in ending appartheid, so the Nobel Peace Prize for him was more than fair.
@maihem1
@maihem1 13 лет назад
Still wondering what he did to earn the "prize"...
@alyjulmim8447
@alyjulmim8447 3 года назад
Just Google all of his accomplishments
@maihem1
@maihem1 3 года назад
@@alyjulmim8447 it took you 10 years to respond to that?
@joyariffic
@joyariffic 14 лет назад
i absolutely think that obama should not have gotten that prize
@reigellatte17
@reigellatte17 12 лет назад
great argument!
@Yabbablabba
@Yabbablabba 15 лет назад
You don't know half as much as you think you do.
@tnekkc
@tnekkc 14 лет назад
@SagesseNoir READ HIS BOOK? What, are you crazy? I have heard him talk on TV. My point is that we need to get the fool off TV.
@7jerryv7
@7jerryv7 15 лет назад
I think people have not researched the history of the Nobel Peace Prize. Cornel West is very accomplished and intelligent. I need to preface my statement that he gets it wrong in this video - dead wrong. Obama inherited two wars. He was highly critical of the war in Iraq. People can disagree with the precedent by why Obama received the prize but the awarding of the prize was solid.
@SagesseNoir
@SagesseNoir 13 лет назад
@lakeeriejew Sorry. That's not how RATIONAL discussion works. if YOU make a charge against someone, then YOU must offer an argument to PROVE it, making allusion (where need be) to supporting evidence. You may NOT simply state your claim and then ask your ADVERSARY to seek out the evidence for YOUR claim. You must provide that evidence. Therefore, I again ask you to MAKE AN ARGUMENT to support your charges against West.
@ZamatoElite
@ZamatoElite 15 лет назад
Oh, ok. I get it now. I can hold people to different standards simply because of their skin color! That makes sense.
@tnekkc
@tnekkc 14 лет назад
He can write all the books he wants. That is not going to hurt anyone with his silly blathering.
@SagesseNoir
@SagesseNoir 14 лет назад
@tnekkc I've read books by Cornel West, have spoken to him many times, and have known him for yours. Your words do not reflect his mode of thinking, writing or speaking. if you want to make things up then share with someone who isn't better informed than yourself.
@andrehendrik
@andrehendrik 14 лет назад
. . . not exactly an intellectual giant
@hagenjpm
@hagenjpm 14 лет назад
'Fuck this nigga' is a logical fallacy: it doesn't provide any logic to support its premise (the premise being that the other person is wrong, which is why the rapper says 'fuck him' or whatever.) Yes, rappers use 'fuck this nigga' in lyrics. No, it's not a rhetorical tool any intellectual person would employ in a reasonable dialogue. QED
@SagesseNoir
@SagesseNoir 14 лет назад
@tnekkc You're obviously not open to rational discussion. By the way, which of Dr. West's books did you say you'd read? I mean, you wouldn't presume to attempt criticism of something you had no knowledge of. Or would you?
@tnekkc
@tnekkc 13 лет назад
West was the discoverer of the principal of the entabulator.
@eastbaybochat
@eastbaybochat 13 лет назад
@timh1982 where's the pun?
@FredricF
@FredricF 15 лет назад
He can pray for us swedes if he like to but the peace price committee are all Norwegian politicians and the peace price ceremony is in Oslo. The reason for this is probably that Alfred Nobel did not think the Swedish government (at the time) was "peaceful" enough.
@TrueCore08
@TrueCore08 13 лет назад
@rdatlasmbrd Do you think its really CONSTRUCTIVE to criticise someones conviction (THE BIBLE) but not allow your criticism to be open for examination by NOT pin-pointing your case against the scriptures? If you are not willing to go into specific parts of your criticism to avoid your criticism from being challenged. Then you should keep your general critique just as your specific critique...TO YOURSELF!! This would be the CONSTRUCTIVE thing to do. Think about it.
@mrchuka
@mrchuka 15 лет назад
Has Mr. West heard of elocution lessons?
@monjiaitaly
@monjiaitaly 12 лет назад
because like most, not all, but most blacks in this country they are color blind when it comes to there own race.
@kovenkhaos
@kovenkhaos 14 лет назад
TRUTH REQUIRES NO THOUGHT. TRUTH IS WHAT IS. ONLY NON-TRUTH REQUIRES THOUGHT TO EXIST. ~p.i.e
@Yabbablabba
@Yabbablabba 15 лет назад
Whit is a word, I'm not arguing that, I just don't think it's the one you're looking for.
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