Cornell MacNeil & Renata Tebaldi - Ciel! mio padre - Aida - Verdi

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Cornell MacNeil (born 24 September 1922 in Minneapolis, Minnesota) & Renata Tebaldi (Pesaro, Italy, February 1, 1922 San Marino, December 19, 2004). Both singers have huge, chiaroscuro voices. Absolutely incredible singing from both of them. Sorry for the loudness of the brass section, but you know Von Karajan! There are simply no voices like this performing these works today on the main stages. WHY?!?!?!?! No one cultivates them any longer. We have not changed physiologically. Our approach to singing has changed for the worse.
In a 1979 article by LaFranco Rasponi, Tebaldi made the following statement:
"Where are the big voices today? There are only tiny mosquitoes flying around. And we - Milanov, Nilsson, del Monaco, Corelli, and others - lost three and four kilos at each performance, so tremendous was the tension we gave to our assignments! It was our blood we gave to the audiences. How could we have beer such fools?"
And that was in 1979. Imagine what she would say today!

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@mazzone1 12 лет назад

Now this is what great singing is all about. Oh to hear voices like this today.

@federic017 12 лет назад

Artisti d'altri tempi purtroppo...Tebaldi-Macneil espressione e canto a livello storico...saluti

@jeaninemahieu5164 2 года назад

C'est un régal d'entendre Renata Tebaldi dans le rôle d'Aida, sa voix de velours convient merveilleusement bien à ce rôle !!! C'est la plus grande soprano lyrico-spinto du siècle.

@sirenadellopera 13 лет назад

The best Aida/Amonasro duet ever!! Also the tempi!

@PBXVIILY 2 года назад

So super great! Tebaldi MacNeil!

@TheVaughan5 7 лет назад

The great Cornell MacNeil at his very best (also the glorious Vienna Philharmonic) - such a voice brings tears to my eyes in this the most beautiful duet ever written! Tebaldi was not at her best in this recording but here she gives us some wonderful singing.

@adolfoa1961 13 лет назад

@sirenadellopera For me this is the best Aida opera recording

@Orfeus80 Год назад

Both Tebaldi and McNeil had ideally balanced chiaroscuro. Here they record together one of Verdi's greatest duets. Tebaldi's Aida is heartbreaking, just hear her pleading. McNeil responds wonderfully and Verdi must be in tears.

@ER1CwC 8 месяцев назад

The way Mac sings 'Pensa che un popolo, vinto...' on one breath is absolutely incredible.

@Orfeus80 8 месяцев назад

@ER1CwC his expression is also heartbreaking, straziato.. their chemistry is wonderful here. By the way, just wondering if you got my email with the question?

@paullewis2413 5 лет назад

The greatest duet in all opera. Wonderful singing/conducting/playing from this legendary recording. However my favourite has to be Price/Merrill/Solti from the 1961 recording.

@SilverSingingMethod 13 лет назад

@schlosba And scuro or "darkness" doesn't just come from a "mature sound". It is due to an elongation of the vocal track which brings in more darkness. And you cannot just bring in "chiaro" by knowing what hertz range it is in. The chiaro is produced by the acoustical energy given by the "chest" voice...more specifically the thyroarytenoid. So that has to be developed properly.

@SilverSingingMethod 14 лет назад

Agreed. And I already got that point! LOL! He was amazing.

@robertwbecker 15 лет назад

Thanks for this marvelous post with these great singers. Also thanks for the Tebaldi quote! She's right, mosquitoes,,, I love it!

@deanrantz1112 5 лет назад

I did not know he was also a (Hobby) Woodworker. Bravo!

@oliverdelica2289 2 года назад

That is so cool. Two of my hobbies colliding 😍😍😍

@SilverSingingMethod 14 лет назад

@angeloMarcucci Exactly. That is old school. That is lost today.

@robertwbecker 13 лет назад

Yeah, this is MacNeil at his Jaw Dropping best,,,,, what a force of Nature this voice was,, Tebaldi isn't too bad in this either,,,,,,

@SilverSingingMethod 12 лет назад

@ktrum492 Well, I am going to be honest, there are very few people in the world that can teach this kind of singing. So you need to go wherever you can to get it if it is your true passion.

@SilverSingingMethod 12 лет назад

@ktrum492 Where do you study? The training you need to sing like this is not found in any university.

@SilverSingingMethod 14 лет назад

@angeloMarcucci Chiaro means clear or "bright". And scuro means "dark". Great voices are dark and ringing clear.

@SilverSingingMethod 13 лет назад

@schlosba Are you really trying to "teach" me what chiaroscuro is? LOL! Thanks, but I am well aware of what it is...and it most certainly IS and old school concept. Even old painters and visual artists used the term. Voice teachers now may use the term, but he singers sure as heck don't sound like they used to.

@SilverSingingMethod 14 лет назад

@angeloMarcucci And it is because the teachers have no clue what they are doing.

@aarondimoff5180 6 лет назад

I think the only reason balanced Chiaro-scuro voices are rare today, is because singers are looking/taught to look in the wrong place for the oscuro. They're looking in the mouth, or back of the throat, instead of DEEP down in the body for it. Nowadays, either the entire voice is swallowed, searching for oscuro, or pressed up against the mask looking for chiaro. Chiaro is small, at the front, parlando, clear pure vowels. Oscuro is deep down in the body, below the larynx, opening from the pharynx downward, not backward or sideways.

@SilverSingingMethod 5 лет назад

Actually our biggest resonator is the pharyngeal cavity which is in the mouth in the back under the soft palette etc. And MacNeil said to sing back there on a streaming column of air. It really has nothing to do with back or forward or up and down as far as try to place a sound. The sound is dark when the larynx is low and the pharyngeal space is open. The sound has chiaro when the chest has proper produces harmonics and they are resonated properly in the pharyngeal space. That is how it works.

@SilverSingingMethod 14 лет назад

@TheValdoro He does breathe before straziato, but still.....up to there in one breath is amazing!

@luigicorvi1661 4 года назад

THE POINT I WAS MAKING ....IN SINGING THE WHOLE PHRASE INCLUDING THE HIGH NOTE ON..VINTO....GAVE THE WORD STRAZIATO IT'S FULL MEANING AND DRAMATIC IMPACT WHEN HE TOOK THAT BREATH.....IT WAS MOST DRAMATIC......THE CULMINATION OF THE LONG LINE...THERE HE IS...DESPARATE FOR A BREATH......AND DESPERATE IN SITUATION TO CONVINCE HER... ..FOR ME THIS IS A PEERLESS MOMMENT IN THE BARITONE ANNALS.

@schlosba 13 лет назад

@MrCafiero Ciaroscuro is not an old school concept. It is still used by many voice teachers today who teach real singing. The term refers to when you achieve proper balance. One wants the squillo of a bright tone, allowing it to cut over an orchestra, while still maintaining the darkness that comes with a mature sound. This is achieved in the throat by properly emphasizing the harmonics that fall within the singer's formant (between 2800 hertz and 3200 hertz) depending on the voice type

@robertwbecker 15 лет назад

As did MacNeil!

@SilverSingingMethod 12 лет назад

@mazzone1 I am working on it!! They are out there, they just need the training.