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Corner Bead Pros & Cons with THE DrywallShorty 

Matt Risinger
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What is the best corner bead for a remodel or new project? Matt visits Lydia Crowder, aka Drywallshorty, to talk corner bead price, pros and cons.
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@Randall3042
@Randall3042 Год назад
This is what make Build Show the absolute best, most informative show of all time! I'm a Boston area builder and have followed Matt very very closely in recent years.. my go-to-guy for good information and education to make me better
@buildshow
@buildshow Год назад
That’s awesome. Appreciate the support my friend!
@buildshow
@buildshow Год назад
Probably one of the most solid dual outro “On The BUILD Show”’s. Go see more of Drywall Shorty at TheBuildShow.com
@unrelativistic
@unrelativistic Год назад
They also have an inside corner paper-faced metal. It is fantastic for getting perfect inside corners. MUCH quicker than folding tape and fighting with it. And since we have movement here due to soils, it has (for 5 years so far) kept away any cracking in the corners. I like the spray-adhesive kerfed stuff for doing arches. The paper-faced vinyl looks intriguing for standard outside corners.
@chadevjen7091
@chadevjen7091 Год назад
I wish I would’ve used them!
@chuckmcvicker2353
@chuckmcvicker2353 Год назад
A discussion around the use of bullnose corner bead would have been helpful.
@evictioncarpentry2628
@evictioncarpentry2628 Год назад
This isn't 2001 anymore.
@chadevjen7091
@chadevjen7091 Год назад
Just used some paper/metal corners. First time drywalling. Easy peasy! Turned out great!
@CavitySlidersUSA
@CavitySlidersUSA Год назад
Matt and Lydia are definitely two people I want in my corner (bead)!
@slomotrainwreck
@slomotrainwreck Год назад
Good guest Matt! Lydia certainly seems to know her way around dry wall. 👍
@buildshow
@buildshow Год назад
Indeed!
@DeadlyPlatypus
@DeadlyPlatypus Год назад
I've always preferred straight PVC. - Zero concern of rust in damp locations (especially paired with stainless trim nails) - Flexible (if you want) - Can cut it with a knife or scissors - No super sharp corners Not fast if you're a "production" guy, but it's easy and convenient for a DIY person.
@TacoXL
@TacoXL Год назад
I can’t believe how many people are being assholes here. This was super helpful!
@user-hm5zb1qn6g
@user-hm5zb1qn6g 10 месяцев назад
Exactly. Sixteen minutes of excellent information and the doofus commenters are arguing about who does corners, who cleans up, and a woman's footwear.
@Polar_Ted
@Polar_Ted Год назад
I'm just a DIY home owner but I prefer the paper faced metal for the small jobs I've done around the house.
@DoubleD72
@DoubleD72 Год назад
It's the best of all these products. It's all I use.
@hlneira
@hlneira 9 месяцев назад
OUT of all of the corner beads presented, I have to say I am still a HUGE fan of the Metal, production level are just so quick on them is incredible. Second option depending on how many beads are being installed would be the mud set vinyl trim trex or paper bead from certanteed. Glue is expensive as you have to buy glue, staples, then waiping down the beads to make sure is on property.
@brianthibaudeau8081
@brianthibaudeau8081 Год назад
Paper-faced metal or vinyl corner bead for inside corners. Easy to use and cut with snips and made my life much easier. One of the last things I picked up my from my late father
@sttaffy
@sttaffy Год назад
I've run tens of miles of metal corner bead, building museum exhibition walls. Like she said it is great for maintaining a straight corner, and is easily joined - I use a small scab of bead behind the joints to line them up perfectly. And it is fast. We put them on during the drywall portion of a build, and the tapers come later, so no option for a mudded-on bead. Spray adhesives are not permitted to be used at scale in the institutions where we work. It also comes off easily when it is time for the show to come down, with the bonus of exposing the screw heads beneath so we can strip the drywall even easier.
@DMSparky
@DMSparky Год назад
In Alberta Canada I primarily see the tapers on sites using the paper faced metal corner bead. Pretty rare to see metal or the perforated plastic. I often see them using the perforated plastic on curved surfaces.
@joecliffordson
@joecliffordson 6 месяцев назад
Oh ya I am going to take lessons from shorty. An instructor who keeps me attentive with all the tips.
@DianneCarrington
@DianneCarrington Год назад
Lydia what an informed presentation. I went to the Build Show so I know how to get to your content
@buildshow
@buildshow Год назад
Awesome! Thank you! She has some awesome videos on BuildShowNetwork.com go check it out.
@noereyes2051
@noereyes2051 10 дней назад
Merci Matt Pour tes vidéos Dieu vous bénisse ! Je suis a Montréal Canada
@ProbeGT2
@ProbeGT2 Год назад
I don't know where she buys her metal corner beads but at my local home depot here it's 55$ for a box of 25, 8 feet long. Ohh and 55$ CANADIAN. Most other places vary from 3,50$ to 5$ a piece. I have tried the no coat, yes, they are almost indestructible but like you said, can't fix framing with those. I went back to metal ones. I apply mesh tape on each side, it will fix 99.9% of any cracking issues. I also have a special tools that can adjust the angle of my corner beads, so i always pass them in my tool, they come out with the perfect angle, take no more mud than no coats, can easily pass them with 2 coats, with machine mud. You also have missed the AquaBeads, witch are paper faced, pre-glueds, just need to activate the glue with a mist of water.
@howtodoitdude1662
@howtodoitdude1662 Год назад
Crimp on the metal beads, prime before the mud. Finish with solid wood trim half way up to prevent damage to the corner. That’s the way I’ve done it for years.
@thomasmarley7132
@thomasmarley7132 Год назад
I use PVC but I’ve always fastened it with screws and not adhesive. I didn’t know about the adhesive honestly but it’s worked out fine if the screws are set right and the mud is feathered out.
@jessem8928
@jessem8928 Год назад
Thanks Matt, this video was needed.
@BigJohnson1566
@BigJohnson1566 Год назад
Good intel
@squidlips6661
@squidlips6661 Год назад
To fix a banged dead on the nose of a metal cornert bead you can use metal putty then finish the surface with durabond 90 and plaster of Paris. Also to prevent cracking of metal corner beads you should add drywall tape, durabond 90 and plaster of Paris or in some instances you can use fiberglass tape in lieu of drywall tape.
@melvinbeboso1656
@melvinbeboso1656 4 месяца назад
What do you use on drywall ceiling corner? I did the side wall first, I've read that it should be ceiling first. Thanks
@rjthomasindyusa
@rjthomasindyusa Год назад
I spray glue paper faced metal beads. 😀 Time consuming…. but they are super straight and don’t crack out.
@chuckpainter8234
@chuckpainter8234 9 месяцев назад
I like the paper faced metal easy too install and durable.
@MLBDesignGroup814
@MLBDesignGroup814 5 месяцев назад
What would you recommend using to change rounded corner bead to square?
@dancaissie9139
@dancaissie9139 5 месяцев назад
Just grabbed some the 8 foot pieces are cheaper in CT at least 8.50 each
@ianmattox4830
@ianmattox4830 Год назад
I find it interesting her take on No-coat. I did finishing for over a decade and have used No-coat since it was first introduced. We loved almost everything about it (sharpest corners, quick to put on, fast to finish, and most of all, tough). That's where my opinion differs, I've never had a crack with a No-coat corner, and in fact, one job proved it to be one of the toughest we've seen. Installed several boxes of No-coat on a commercial job, we ran out and had to run stairway hand rails in metal (under a wood touch point). We had dozens of repairs on the metal from the other workers denting and cracking it, usually requiring 2-3 coats to get back to nice. We had one worker take a bakers scaffolding piece and run it into the very corner (within a 1/4 inch of the tip) of the No-coat bead, it barely dented it, and was a one swipe fix, no crack at all. I'm wondering what is going on that a trimmer will make their no-coat crack... I will agree with the paper issues, you can't 'work' it too much otherwise you'll fuzz the paper which is a nightmare. And bubbles can be an issue (less with the hopper), but a nail driven into the framing behind a bubble does fix it. Overall, a fantastic product with limited down sides (mainly, as was said, it's for use as a pro, it takes some training to get the hang of it) (You should google some old ad's before Certainteed bought them out, they take a bad and take a full swing at a finished corner, no cracks. It's not just a gimmick, i've experienced it myself)
@OutlawCarson
@OutlawCarson Год назад
I Seen rounded corners, how is that done, its beautiful
@rjthomasindyusa
@rjthomasindyusa Год назад
It’s simply a rounded corner bead but the drywall needs to be installed a bit different……
@beachboardfan9544
@beachboardfan9544 Год назад
Corner bead crimpers make it pretty tough to use anything but metal, you can do an entire house in a few hours, every other type you're looking at a min 1-2 days.
@parickburke3875
@parickburke3875 Месяц назад
I'll do paper faced metal 10 to 1 on your metal.
@plumsmuglers
@plumsmuglers 9 месяцев назад
Just use Angle Iron.
@mousetoad7040
@mousetoad7040 7 месяцев назад
I wonder what she thinks of Aquabead? Has built in adhesive (lick and stick!). I guess I’ll just try it. Price is comparable to other products. So far so good. Added a short wall to a closet opening and needed to throw up a couple sticks. Did it while listening to this video. Just wet the inside and threw it on. Used my hand coz I didn’t have the corner sponge roller in the crappy silent mfg video.
@jimyeats
@jimyeats Год назад
We can all agree it’s neither the drywaller nor the finishers job to clean up.
@user-hm5zb1qn6g
@user-hm5zb1qn6g 10 месяцев назад
Excellent video!! Personally I've gone back to metal corner bead. But that's just me. Good to know about alternatives.
@VillelaHN
@VillelaHN Год назад
Great video 👍
@buildshow
@buildshow Год назад
Thanks 👍
@kidjetrecon7153
@kidjetrecon7153 10 месяцев назад
3.10 9ft for metal in Iowa.
@joshuamelton90
@joshuamelton90 8 месяцев назад
Sandles!?!?! Wow!
@kirkdunn1379
@kirkdunn1379 9 месяцев назад
if you nail the bead to the framing its locked to house movement, if you tape it on it isnt.......different areas probably favor different ones.....ive never had a problem with any of them, if a 100 ton house is going to move there really isnt much you can do.....
@DavidSumlin
@DavidSumlin Год назад
Loving the job site flip flops 🤪
@mashpotato832
@mashpotato832 Год назад
no socks or nothing
@bethanyanderson1745
@bethanyanderson1745 Год назад
​@@mashpotato832 - hey, a gal wants to look good for the camera. It's not like she's in her work clothes then wearing flip-flops, for goodness sake!
@daveton9033
@daveton9033 Год назад
Sandals on the job site? i hope this is just for the show ! 😅
@nickwulf
@nickwulf Год назад
Drywall Shorty with a PHD in Drywallogy
@Brewdiss
@Brewdiss Год назад
I wonder if using Zip System in a shower as a structural framing, with Zip system tape would be worth it?
@namehere1967
@namehere1967 Год назад
how about rounded corners? Or is that another animal?
@DrywallShorty
@DrywallShorty Год назад
Bullnose is very different - it comes in multiple radius options and some of the options in this video aren’t available in bullnose. But I will cover it soon!
@brucehooks7508
@brucehooks7508 8 месяцев назад
are those OSHA approved flip flops?
@BrandonContracting
@BrandonContracting Год назад
Finish carpenter here in Alberta Canada right above Montana - I can tell you the drywallers don't install cornerbead. Drywall finishers (tapers) come in and install all the bead with first coat. This is common in the majority of Canada. You do not want a drywaller installing cornerbead lol...
@DoubleD72
@DoubleD72 Год назад
It's never the drywallers job to do anything. Especially cleaning up after themselves.
@user-hm5zb1qn6g
@user-hm5zb1qn6g 10 месяцев назад
@Brandon: nobody cares
@DoubleD72
@DoubleD72 Год назад
The final question should have been "Who's job is it to clean up after Finishers?". lol. Because somewhere along the years Finishers just decided it's not their job to clean up their own mess?.
@constitutionallyconscious165
Those flipflops are ansi 71 rqted and osha approved. Boots are for work flip floops are for videos.
@TacoXL
@TacoXL Год назад
This was a video.
@nutsinbolts7548
@nutsinbolts7548 Год назад
Where's the bullnose ?
@kidjetrecon7153
@kidjetrecon7153 10 месяцев назад
Best installers would be the finisher, I don’t let anyone install my bead,
@peehandshihtzu
@peehandshihtzu Год назад
I can tell you with absolute confidence it is not the kids or the dog that will trash your walls. They will have their wear spots and learning moments. It is the wheel chair from the old man learning to navigate it that will damage your drywall the most. Doors and casings too, especially. :)
@jonathansage2147
@jonathansage2147 Год назад
Never underestimate kids with a toy shopping cart. So many repairs...
@peehandshihtzu
@peehandshihtzu Год назад
I feel your pain, LOL. :)@@jonathansage2147
@cney2125
@cney2125 Год назад
Laundry baskets are the culprit here.
@worlow8985
@worlow8985 4 месяца назад
Knows her way around drywall. Needs to know her way around a pair of work boots 😂
@hassenfepher
@hassenfepher Год назад
Matt you look so tall😂
@MrTexasDan
@MrTexasDan Год назад
Well done! For once, Matt giving useful info, not trying to sell me some overpriced foolishness from his sponsors.
@buildshow
@buildshow Год назад
Ouch.
@MrTexasDan
@MrTexasDan Год назад
@@buildshow Don't be upset. It's feedback. Half your videos lately are infomercials, which is a big waste of viewer's time.
@incognito6469
@incognito6469 Год назад
Bare feet in flipflops on the job site...
@user-hm5zb1qn6g
@user-hm5zb1qn6g 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for pointing that out! Nobody else noticed that! /s
@Dabear88
@Dabear88 Год назад
Am I the only one losing my sh!t over flip-flops on the jobsite? No no no, never...
@DoubleD72
@DoubleD72 Год назад
In reality it is best for you to focus on you and less about what others choose to do. ;).
@buildshow
@buildshow Год назад
Not a job. Her studio space off her office
@user-hm5zb1qn6g
@user-hm5zb1qn6g 10 месяцев назад
@Dabore: No. Not just you. There are a bunch of OCD Dipshyts on this comment thread who focused on her footwear without pausing to think, "I wonder whether this is just a mock-up of a boarded wall where she's shooting an instructional video."
@tommycollier9172
@tommycollier9172 9 месяцев назад
What no bull nose
@portwolf2293
@portwolf2293 Год назад
Sorry Matt, I hate drywall with a passion 😞
@buildshow
@buildshow Год назад
Wait till you see the footage of her teaching me the trade. 😮
@LuminairPrime
@LuminairPrime Год назад
Volume normalization and color saturation are off in this video. First clip is quiet, and wide camera is saturated. Walls are yellow and Matt's lips look like lipstick in the wide shot! Consider getting matching cameras so you don't have as much room for error when tweaking the colors post-production.
@bethanyanderson1745
@bethanyanderson1745 Год назад
@LuminairPrime - personally, I didn’t notice any of your criticisms bc I was paying attention to the educational information related to the science of building. I'd likely agree with you if I watched Matt's videos to learn abt topics related to photography, videography, production, graphic design, sound or lighting engineering, makeup application, or color selection. But I'm not. If fancy production value is of great importance to you, you may be more comfortable following a different channel? Just a friendly suggestion. Shrug
@theoracle5265
@theoracle5265 5 месяцев назад
Lurch hahaha
@user-gs2ym9wf4f
@user-gs2ym9wf4f Год назад
matt i have invented a perfect drywall patch that is invisible after finished. interested?
@buildshow
@buildshow Год назад
Heck yeah
@user-gs2ym9wf4f
@user-gs2ym9wf4f Год назад
how do i contact you privately so we can correspond and I can show you?@@buildshow
@user-ed5jh3ff6u
@user-ed5jh3ff6u Год назад
What a cutie
@bethanyanderson1745
@bethanyanderson1745 Год назад
@user-ed5jh3ff6u - pretty sure Matt is married. Sor-ry!
@jonathansage2147
@jonathansage2147 Год назад
​@bethanyanderson1745 well done.
@embracethesuck1041
@embracethesuck1041 Год назад
I wish I could have made out the audio. With my phone maxed I could only hear about half of it. It's a shame given the otherwise great production quality.
@heyitsbroski
@heyitsbroski 5 месяцев назад
THICC
@samuelharward2451
@samuelharward2451 Год назад
So, can you splice the expensive fully composite product with a lower priced product… fully composite maybe 6’ up the wall and then cheaper product up to the vaulted ceiling where nothing will ever hit or damage it?
@bethanyanderson1745
@bethanyanderson1745 Год назад
@samuelharward2451 - good question!
@jonathansage2147
@jonathansage2147 Год назад
I wouldn't do it on the same corner. The height of the corner is going to vary based on the product. Getting it to look like one continuous edge isn't going to be worth the $4 you save. If you have corners up high that don't connect down low, go for it.
@johnbange6338
@johnbange6338 Месяц назад
OK, excuse me for being the grammar police but these ones. how about this one but carry on you’re doing a good job
@FixthisCD
@FixthisCD Год назад
I am no pro but I like the paper over metal cornerbead
@t.e.1189
@t.e.1189 Месяц назад
She's the beat!
@jonathanjacob5453
@jonathanjacob5453 5 месяцев назад
Shorty indeed
@nathanmrudd
@nathanmrudd Год назад
The best drywall on a project is no drywall on a project.
@DMSparky
@DMSparky Год назад
What are the alternatives?
@robertrusso877
@robertrusso877 Год назад
@@DMSparky Wood Steel Stone Tile
@nathanmrudd
@nathanmrudd Год назад
@@DMSparky hehe. Mostly just referring to my desire to never touch drywall on my projects. So I’ll do T&G, stone veneer, tile, barn wood, etc. Easier for me, doesn’t cost much more (I’d hire drywall finishing), and wears and handles moisture better.
@bethanyanderson1745
@bethanyanderson1745 Год назад
​@robertrusso877 - yep, all the typical commonly-seen wall materials in today’s houses. @nathanmrudd are you longing for the good 'ol days of stone castles? No drywall there@
@nathanmrudd
@nathanmrudd Год назад
@@bethanyanderson1745 yes. Cabins and castles. Upgraded with sound building science, of course. 🙂
@jeffreyferguson83
@jeffreyferguson83 Год назад
When I first got in the business it was definitely the drywallers job to hang corner bead, that was in the 3 states I had worked in, Nevada, Arizona and California! But when I went to Houston TX in the union anyway Tapers installed the paperback metal corner bead, using the mud trough and roller.
@tonytango6676
@tonytango6676 Год назад
There is, or was, a dent in the corner bead in the house we lived in in Thompson Manitoba in 1960s. When I was two or three, I rock the high chair so much it tipped backwards and my head hit the corner bead. I have often wondered if that dent is still there 60+ years later. Chuckle.
@kidjetrecon7153
@kidjetrecon7153 10 месяцев назад
After 20 years using metal and fiber fuse after it’s installed first coat with tape mud and fiber fuse comes out amazing. Usually have it filled, most only needs one coat.
@VanPelt79
@VanPelt79 7 месяцев назад
Aqua Bead is the best hands down
@phil291
@phil291 Год назад
Good presentation, my house has outside corners with radius corners, that look and wear a lot better than square corners
@mpxz999
@mpxz999 5 месяцев назад
I love your channel Matt ❤ Great video, she knows her stuff!
@mikewarren9714
@mikewarren9714 8 месяцев назад
can you cover round v 90 degree corner bead.
@AdamCarbone1
@AdamCarbone1 Год назад
What about for arches?
@multidinero
@multidinero Год назад
As a finish carpenter I’m usually doing my own corner finishes. I love doing openings in architectural buildups, but that’s expensive for a whole house. But bad framing can be the bane of my existence! Keep your framers honest. Square those corners! Lol.
@MrTeff999
@MrTeff999 Год назад
I do not believe that a stick of corner bead went from $1 to $5 because of the cost of metal. Did the cost of other things that use metal such as nails, screws, hammers, and cars jump 500%?
@garyg7145
@garyg7145 11 месяцев назад
Niche product gets more increases.
@ericschulze5641
@ericschulze5641 5 месяцев назад
Probably due to the fact it has zink on it , so it MUST be taxed by Joe to save the planet for the good of everyone
@actingtavis
@actingtavis Год назад
I can't believe she showed up in flip-flops onto a job site😂
@buildshow
@buildshow Год назад
Not a job site. Her studio space at her office. Her boots are on a bench in the foreground.
@user-hm5zb1qn6g
@user-hm5zb1qn6g 10 месяцев назад
@davis: I can't believe you watched a 16-minute video on corner bead and focused on the presenter's footwear, Imelda.
@mikeb8872
@mikeb8872 11 месяцев назад
In all my years in construction, not sure if I've ever seen a pro show up in flip-flops. Hard to take her serious...
@user-hm5zb1qn6g
@user-hm5zb1qn6g 10 месяцев назад
Nobody cares who you do or don't take seriously. Go back to sleep, grampa.
@gregorsamsa1364
@gregorsamsa1364 9 месяцев назад
She wasn't working. She was just standing there speaking for a video
@wireless641
@wireless641 Год назад
Matt the person you should ask about corner bead is "the Drywall Doctor". He has a channel on RU-vid. Very knowledgeable contractor!
@AReed030188
@AReed030188 Год назад
Closed toed shoes.
@TacoXL
@TacoXL Год назад
For an interview?
@AReed030188
@AReed030188 Год назад
It is still an active build site. I can't enter my local high school's robotics shop without closed toed shoes and I sure as hell can't get past the gate when I visit customers at work without steel toes. Most if not all job sites have this basic safety rule in place and you have to come equipped before you get out of your car.
@TacoXL
@TacoXL Год назад
@@AReed030188 No it's not, it's a studio.
@CheesyCrotch
@CheesyCrotch Год назад
just cant take anyone seriously that shows up to site or anywhere besides the beach etc in flip flops.
@freechurros
@freechurros Год назад
Good thing your opinion is irrelevant
@dtoad48
@dtoad48 Год назад
Yeah.. dangerous. Guess she doesn't do drywall and only talks about it.
@mattfrieden2065
@mattfrieden2065 Год назад
She's a crazy good drywaller. And I'm guessing she wasn't planning on doing any work during the video..
@Ashphinchtersayswhat
@Ashphinchtersayswhat Год назад
Used to paint houses in N Scottsdale in flip flops
@CheesyCrotch
@CheesyCrotch Год назад
@@Ashphinchtersayswhat hehehe no body takes painters seriously so its all good,, soz LMAO
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