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Correspondences Between Traditions - Chakras and the Tree of Life [Esoteric Saturdays] 

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@FoolishFishBooks
@FoolishFishBooks 3 года назад
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@2887zar
@2887zar 3 года назад
Excellent work, and solid advise. “I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.” Bruce Lee
@patricksullivan1904
@patricksullivan1904 3 года назад
Chakaras are energy center.. the middle pillar is to superimpose the tree of life over the body.. the sephirots are portals.. the chakaras energy centers.. not all colorful circles mean the same thing... traffic lights may have colorful balls of light... but have nothing to do with either Chakra or the tree of life... now we know and knowing is half the battle!
@omnihuntress208128
@omnihuntress208128 3 года назад
Same road different paths and we're all going to end up at the same place...
@juliensoyer5786
@juliensoyer5786 3 года назад
Great video, as always ! Got me thinking that we may do the same thing when we talk about our spiritual experiences
@Cutenerdywoman
@Cutenerdywoman 3 года назад
That's so true.
@jennamarsey3247
@jennamarsey3247 3 года назад
Eastern body western mind is an absolute amazing book, thank you for this video!!!
@Cutenerdywoman
@Cutenerdywoman 3 года назад
Loved the little example with the flowers. I always tell people, "what's the difference between wild flowers and weeds? Perception."
@thundericeberg2315
@thundericeberg2315 3 года назад
Me; dad I learned something today. Dad; but it's a Saturday. Me; it was on youtube. Dad; you can't learn anything online. Me; did you know there is another chakra system? Dad;...
@4everseekingwisdom690
@4everseekingwisdom690 3 года назад
The 7 seals of revaltaions. Asgard. Mount olympus.. The home of the gods is the mind..and the way to get to Asgard was via the rainbow Bridge..
@widdershinnz
@widdershinnz 3 года назад
I have always enjoyed comparing the chakras to the rainbow-I compare Spirit to white light, and our physical world is like a Prism, refracting the white light into a “rainbow” of energies.
@blindi6326
@blindi6326 3 года назад
@@widdershinnz well put
@widdershinnz
@widdershinnz 3 года назад
@Marilyn G all of the light that enters a prism leaves it, except it’s divided into its individual components: the colors. 😀
@saularmendariz1341
@saularmendariz1341 3 года назад
I always knew the rainbows i would see had to do with our chakras or the earths visible chakras lol
@4everseekingwisdom690
@4everseekingwisdom690 2 года назад
@L M The Jewish temple, Asgard mt olympus or "the place of the God's" is an allegory for the mind. 7 chackras are the 7 energy centers that need to be balanced (7 deadly sins wth their corresponding virtues) each of received a gift from each of the 7 gods (planet's) that we must return to them. What I mentioned about the rainbow Bridge wasn't a guess. The great mystery schools never died they only went underground. I'm attached to the school of Odin so while yes this what I know to be true and believe in the end it is just my personal gnosis so I invite you to examine the possibility for yourself and decide if there is truth there or not..
@QuaesitorDei
@QuaesitorDei 10 месяцев назад
oh wow, going back and watchig these old videos again gives me apifany again and again. its great when everything syncronises like this.
@MadEyeMitja
@MadEyeMitja 3 года назад
It's all about the adoption of / adaptation to systems when it comes to spiritual practice. How does one feel when connecting to them and using them? How does one use them, what can one gain from the practice? Everyone is on their own path, in their own state. While some people may not like one genre of music or film but love another, others may feel the exact opposite. Some might more or less enjoy all genres, appreciative what is behind it. It is like that with traditions and practices too. I really like the 'flower allegory' you're using, hits the nail on the head. I really enjoy that video, you convey a beautiful and far-sighted perspective on the topic of working with subtle energy centers.
@churka5984
@churka5984 3 года назад
I'm impressed by the way you were able to put such sensitive concepts into words so smoothly.
@primenumerology3510
@primenumerology3510 3 года назад
This made me think think of that phrase "all religions lead to the same path ...
@sherkory4444
@sherkory4444 3 года назад
I tried explaining that to my mother the other day and all I got was more of the same thinking from her, that the bible is the only true faith. I couldn't make her understand that that's fine for her and because she believes it that it could happen for her and that the way I believe will happen for me. People cant seem to understand that all of this in really in our heads and the individual makes his or her own reality in both the physical and spiritual realms.
@AveryCreates
@AveryCreates 3 года назад
@@sherkory4444 it's cult mentality. Live your life. When she sees you are kind and enjoying life she will likely judge you less harshly.
@sherkory4444
@sherkory4444 3 года назад
Stop removing my comments, this person needs to here what I'm saying plane and simple. This person opened their mouth and they need to here it. Stop infringing on my rights as a human being just because you cant handle what is being said!
@sherkory4444
@sherkory4444 3 года назад
@@AveryCreates I just you still cant answer my question now can you
@TheShamanicHealerGod
@TheShamanicHealerGod 3 года назад
@@sherkory4444 damn, what did you say 👀
@widdershinnz
@widdershinnz 3 года назад
Wow incredibly illustrative, that story. It makes total sense to keep in mind the culture and symbols in which each system was constructed. What a wonderful reminder that context is king when it comes to understanding and empathizing with other people and their experiences.
@steverempel8584
@steverempel8584 2 года назад
For the Middle Pillar Vs. Chakra, my view has always been: Kether (White) = Crown (Violet) Daath (Lavender) = Throat (Light Blue) Tiphareth (Yellow Gold) = Heart (Green) and Solar Plexus (Yellow) Yesod (Violet) = Sacral (Orange) Malkuth (Black) = Root (Red) Third Eye is the only Chakra not represented in the Middle Pillar Ritual, but I have in the back my mind that: Chokmah = Third Eye (Blue Purple) and Binah = Throat, same as Daath. Nonetheless, Middle Pillar is just as complete as the Chakras, it isn't missing anything. Chakras are mapped to the person's spinal column, Middle Pillar is mapped to the whole body while standing. Due to this, I see Chakras as more anatomically correct, while Middle Pillar is more about the symbolism of how we use, and think about our bodies. Geburah being the Right Arm doesn't make sense until you realize it's the Sword arm, like Chesed is the Shield Arm. Malkuth and Root Chakras each are at the very base of the things they represent. The only Chakra/Sephirot I see as being in exactly the same place is the Kether/Crown Chakra, but even then I may be mistaken. I don't really worry about the colour associations being different. The colours each make sense in their own system, the Chakras are clearly the rainbow colours in order, and Middle Pillar uses the colours that mach the 10/11 of the Sephira. And discrepancies can be attributed to differences of surface meanings vs. deep meanings. For example how Mars is in the Feminine pillar, Venus is in the Masculine one, how each Sephira has different colour associations in the different planes, or even how Aquarius is an Air Sign! I have no problem with Malkuth being Brown / Citrine, Russet, Olive, Black in the Tree of Life, but pure black in Middle Pillar. I see Kether as both a brilliant light with no colour, and a simple bright white. I see Chokmah as ranging from the ordinary colour of white to a grey. (I imagine that Kether is pure brilliance, and Chokmah is ordinary white, but when you need to represent it with an actual colour, Kether is forced into being white, so Chokmah is just coloured grey to show how much it's outshone by Kether.) Daath can be represented anywhere from colourless to lavender. I never noticed the lavender colour's similarity to the light blue throat chakra till now.... Another way of putting it, is that the map is not the territory. Chakras and Middle Pillar are two different maps representing the same thing, written in different languages. The different colour systems are the different languages, some same words sound similar to each other, others are completely different, two similar sounding words in two languages, (or even the same language,) can mean two completely different things. Or it's like one is a street map of a City with all the Subway stations highlighted, and the other is the official stylized map of the subway system. You can even combine two different maps of the same thing to understand it more than using one on its own!
@auld_boy
@auld_boy 2 года назад
This is pretty much how I see it too 👌
@santiagosantiago8234
@santiagosantiago8234 Год назад
The answers I was looking for in the video, I ended up finding in this comment. Thanks dude :)
@makyo42
@makyo42 3 года назад
When i first started studying different esoteric systems ,I had all the same questions. And by accident, after doing all he same type of drawings you are doing. I folded a drawing I had made of the Tree Of Life. Overlapping the two pillars and then laying this image onto a outline of a man in a meditation posture. This changes the ten to seven and curisponse even closer to the Eastern system (Chelsea). Love your work, thanks for all you do.. Hopefully this clear.
@Sejdr
@Sejdr 3 года назад
The illusion of likeness between these two comes from Wests focus on the 7 upper Chakras (One village takes part of another villages understanding). Then there are the Talas/Patalas - the 7 lower ones in the legs.
@FoolishFishBooks
@FoolishFishBooks 3 года назад
Thank you for this, @Sejdr!
@Tokmurok
@Tokmurok 2 месяца назад
That would be mapping the Qlippoth to the body for the lower seven. But everyone fears the darkness instead of understanding it.
@jklmnopq666
@jklmnopq666 3 года назад
Loved the video! As a Reiki master and currently interested in high magick I really identified with the correlation of concepts. It made me thinks about a "densification" of source energy in both system.
@jeremiegoubault5839
@jeremiegoubault5839 3 года назад
Well, i've been practicing and learning the way of tantric buddhism for a few years working around chakras in a western world, also learning about shamanic traditions which lead me to a lot of correspondances... I have found a master to learn yoga, but i also started ceremonial magick thanks to this channel and my judeo christian education which lead to very judeo christian inner problems, and to tell the truth, i can feel it's doing some good to me, so my conclusion is that the two paths eventually lead to illumination, but they don't adress it throught the same issues, i will keep practicing both now, and that is how i tied a gordian knot between the two very different traditions :)
@daregularperson
@daregularperson 3 года назад
Good parable, I enjoyed it! Another takeaway would be to seek direct experiences of things you hear about. If you’ve experienced a butterfly, a flower, candy and pepper - even if you call them by different names - all this confusion can be figured out!
@lilyso8633
@lilyso8633 3 года назад
That was a great video!! Thumbs up! 🤗🤗
@rvfiasco
@rvfiasco 3 года назад
I love the approach you take for teaching! Thank you, Foolish Fish!!
@LoveLightAbundance
@LoveLightAbundance 3 года назад
I’m loving your approach to Magick & mysticism, and your way to share that knowledge. Un grand merci.
@WTF-m6b
@WTF-m6b 2 года назад
Hi Denis, I read somewhere that the chakras relate to the physical body, the middle pillar spheres relate to the astral body.
@kityac9810
@kityac9810 3 года назад
I was wondering why comparing chakras to the middle pillar was a thing. When I first heard about that, it left me scratching my head because the chakras, as they're known today, is actually a combination of at least two unrelated systems of teachings (chakras and frequency/color). The chakras themselves, minus the colors and current meanings, goes back to the Upanishads and was simply a visualization aid. The only similarity I've found to the middle pillar, was that each chakra represents an aspect of an inner pilgrimage. This fits nicely with the middle pillar from that perspective, but they are truly different systems. So, I think your assessment is really spot-on. Trying to match them up could turn into a game of Twister and take the meanings of the chakras even further away from it's original form.
@hockitibontas
@hockitibontas 3 года назад
The colour coding system only came about in the 70's - new ager invention
@weinerdog137
@weinerdog137 3 года назад
U just described a good counterintelligence strategy.
@martinwilliams9866
@martinwilliams9866 Год назад
The tradition chakra system (not the new age shakra version), sites the chakras at the mid somatic sections, (back view), there exist a number of chakra detection devices, Patrick Flanagan's being probably the most interesting as it detects the pulsations of the chakras, the number of petals strongly correlates to half the peak frequencies of the Schumann standing wave resonance. A book I recommend is "The Subtle Energy Body the Complete Guide" by Maureen Lochart, which not only deals with chakras, but also sephiroth, latifs, Daoist inner cultivation etc,
@pizzadesushi0000
@pizzadesushi0000 3 года назад
as someone who's into the occult but didn't really started yet this is a topic i'm really interested in! assistindo do rio de janeiro, Brasil 🇧🇷
@josiahsophia8938
@josiahsophia8938 3 года назад
It’s worth going back and looking at some of the other videos in the esoteric Saturday’s series. Lots of really helpful info.
@Rohan_Trishan
@Rohan_Trishan 2 года назад
Cool preview, also regarding the chakra system pic, that is more of a new age modern update of how its represented, the original colors are somewhat diff or multi tone like the heart will be green and pink, and the base/root chakra actually does reach to the feet like the spheres on pillar, u gotta think of the chakra as being both base of spine and the lowest nerves that extend from it which supply the lowest legs/feet
@jondoe3812
@jondoe3812 Год назад
For those interesred, "The Circuit of Force" Dion Fortune. Go`s very in depth on this very subject.
@HouseofWisdom888
@HouseofWisdom888 Месяц назад
Great book.
@lip3gate
@lip3gate 3 года назад
"It's a blah and it's beautiful" hahaha nicely done!
@bethdoublekickchick8007
@bethdoublekickchick8007 3 года назад
Such beautiful advice
@mattrider5212
@mattrider5212 3 года назад
So goooood love this content!!!! You are not foolish!!!
@tanyabrown9839
@tanyabrown9839 3 года назад
My teacher always taught to not blindly believe anything but instead to experiment and observe so to know and to keep an open mind to other things we are yet to possibly know, we are encouraged to research and check out things from all traditions, there is some truth underlaying most things. Buddha also says ""Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many." "Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books." "Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders." "Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations." "Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it." "But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."
@chrismayhew4274
@chrismayhew4274 2 года назад
After looking at it I have discovered they are the same thing bc they both correlate to the planes, ie the psychic, mental, astral, and physical. Tipharet is the heart and Hud and Neitzach are the solar plexus. Gaborah and Chessed are the throat and So on
@henrikklasson838
@henrikklasson838 3 года назад
Excellent and nuanced food for thought. 👏👏
@zeoskydancer9574
@zeoskydancer9574 3 года назад
Another great video. Don’t mistake the hand pointing at the moon for the moon itself. Don’t mistake the menu for the meal. Don’t mistake the map for the terrain. I like the four villages metaphor. My one is the four paths up the mountain. The paths are all different and complete paths in themselves and all lead to the summit. But you need to walk up one of them to get there. Just knowing they are there won’t get you anywhere. Thanks again mate.
@michaelbird7329
@michaelbird7329 3 года назад
Well done my brother, educational and entertaining, I send you Love and Light this day, Namaskar ♥️🔥🙏
@travismusser7409
@travismusser7409 3 года назад
Do what thou wilt. Great videos ff. Been beginning to put some of my studies up here on youtube, acting a fool to reveal what I can to those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. Cannot edit atm so sometimes it's half an hour in till I get to some things so apologies for that. Going to be doing more in depth videos on the paths of my great tree or body of life. Kalladam, the tree of life remade... Anyway you came up during my Hindsight is 2020 studies. Synchronicity guides... Love is the law, love under will.
@ileanamendez7583
@ileanamendez7583 3 года назад
Love the story. I've been raised in two cultures and it's does challenge your beliefs and loyalties, for the best. 🌟
@blazingbirdy6954
@blazingbirdy6954 3 года назад
This video was incredible
@Atlas_Artwitch
@Atlas_Artwitch 3 года назад
Man, I really love your videos! The make me feel like i understand more about life, giving me those "aha!" moments. Good work, as always ♥️
@Aleksandra.DaGreat
@Aleksandra.DaGreat 3 года назад
This is brilliant! Thank you D🌹
@MADdabber710OIL
@MADdabber710OIL 3 года назад
I need a way to make diagrams like that.. Beautiful. Great video!
@troymills1789
@troymills1789 3 года назад
You Videos Are Such a Study of this Knowledge and it’s Wonderful Just Thank You.
@starofazure5597
@starofazure5597 3 года назад
Great perspective as always! That rings true for me in regards to different numerology and astrology practices. At some point you just need to pick one.
@davewillmusic3334
@davewillmusic3334 3 года назад
Awesome content! I'm still learning more about the middle pillar but I wanted to note that Yesod being purple and Malkuth being on the ground arent necessarily all that different! In the chakra system there are "corresponding chakras" the root/ crown, solar plexus/throat, and finally third eye and Sacral! Sacral is roughly where Yesod would be and purple is associated with the third eye. Hope that makes sense! Now for Malkuth - In Reiki the root extends beyond the spine and is responsible for everything below the sacral. The "Earth Star" is related to the root and has similar functions.It is considered to be a few feet below us. So where the earth star (ground) and root chakras (feet) meet would be roughly in Malkuth Territory. I'm something of an Omnist, so I tend to believe the Hermetic principle of correspondence applies. I'm learning a lot on your channel, thank you so much.
@jackalope2302
@jackalope2302 3 года назад
Comparing the Chakras to the Middle Pillar is like comparing the skeletal system and the muscular system. The five parts of the soul are the nerves and brain. Entangled and yet distinct. Symbiosis
@rmt3589
@rmt3589 2 года назад
So, there's a few different traditions I use. I tend to approach each one as it's own, and don't assume 2 are trying to say the same thing. Sometimes I find points where they overlap, such as the Golem and a Shikigami and a servator. When this happens, I tend to look at all 3 truths and see how I can connect them, like connecting Legos with Knex. Usually usually have to use the micro parts separately, and rely on the macro connections. But sometimes, the micro parts connect, like a Knex rod going through a gap in a Bionical piece, which then you can use to build something intricate and new. Sometimes you'll need a new material (tradition), like clay, to connect pieces that normally couldn't go together. I find as I explore, as long as I have a solid foundation which to test things with, I can discern truth relatively easily. Though I do have a nack for this, as I'm almost savant-level at pattern recognition in some things. (I refer to myself as a savant of Metaphysics, but no doctor would ever diagnose that as they don't see Metaphysics as real) Honestly, it's why I experimented with different churches, and eventually settled on the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter-Day Saints as the perfect foundation for me to work on. It's how I came up with things such as my new reincarnation theory, which states that reincarnation is simply an acute access to the akashic records.
@nataliec2644
@nataliec2644 2 года назад
i am from a western country and culture, born and raised. but i feel more “at home” with the eastern practices i am aware of, such as the seven chakras and/or meditation that works towards connecting with ones chakras and balancing them. you recommend to start with the system of our own culture, but i feel hesitant about the qabalah, but maybe i just don’t know enough about it.
@sethlindgren8130
@sethlindgren8130 6 месяцев назад
Jason Miller's Pillar and Spheres seems more analogous to a chakra system, if I had to say one was. Also, I think Wallis is fairly critical of Anodea Judith. I only know this because my first introduction to chakras was through her book Wheels of Life and later I stumbled across that famous article that Wallis wrote.
@oseremenokooboh110
@oseremenokooboh110 3 года назад
Nice update
@Zartistt
@Zartistt 3 года назад
Amazing as always.
@ignaciorodriguezmerlo1100
@ignaciorodriguezmerlo1100 2 года назад
Hello FF! I have been exploring your channel since your interview with Dr. Justin from esoterica channel. I would recommend the best book I know associating the kabbalistic tree of life with a further developed chakra system, written by the founder of Modern Pranic Healing and Arhatic Yoga, Choa Kok Sui: The Spiritual Essence of Man: The Chakras and the Inverted Tree of Life He was very well versed in different esoteric systems, including the Golden Dawn system, but also conducted an extensive clairvoyant experimental research to clarify and demystify the question of the energy centers or chakras, presenting a system of 11 major chakras in the body (corresponding to the 10 sephirot, plus the hidden one) and a chakra above the head, making a total of 12 (in the book, this 12th chakra is associated with the kabbalistic concept Ain Soph Aur).
@VinceMenger
@VinceMenger 3 года назад
Great insight, i read somewhere that chakras were the etheric organs, whereas the middle pillar was about the astral organs. That may be completely incorrect though, just sharing what i read somewhere. Thanks Foolish Fish !
@jackalope2302
@jackalope2302 2 года назад
What's the difference between etheric and astral bodies? I've assumed the two words were synonyms
@VinceMenger
@VinceMenger 2 года назад
@@jackalope2302 Hi, the etheric body is the energy body, the "life force" we could say. It can still be considered matter, because it belongs to the material realm (electromagnetism/ether are 2 words describing the same thing). Astral is immaterial, and belongs to the "next" plane of existence called "astral plane" or "emotional plane". During OBEs, people are in etheric form, but are still navigating this world. Astral travels belong to the astral "dimension", another world altogether (though tied to this one). There is a short video called "the 4 planes of existence" by some online mystery-school that i found, or maybe other ones explain it concisely as well. Hope this helped a bit !
@ejenkins4711
@ejenkins4711 3 года назад
Those that seek outside dream, those that seek inside waken!
@zoejaneZJ
@zoejaneZJ 3 года назад
the most beautiful blah ive ever seen :3 so delicious
@wilburjones4084
@wilburjones4084 3 года назад
dude from village 3 must have been irish. The Irish word for flower is blath. pronounced "blaaw" . I appreciate the uploads and explanantions.
@terbospeed
@terbospeed 3 года назад
Techforpsych, a neuroscientist, has a video on correlations of the energy centers, or chakras, with physical locations in the body
@AndreasLabuschagne
@AndreasLabuschagne 3 года назад
Sound advice, my own teacher offered the same advice.
@alienautopsy9326
@alienautopsy9326 2 года назад
Even Obi Wan Kenobi didn’t know about the chakras. This guy’s an animal
@FoolishFishBooks
@FoolishFishBooks 2 года назад
😂
@lookoutitscaleb
@lookoutitscaleb 3 года назад
With the chakras a lot of information has been changed through time from their original sources (the vedas) to help people to visualize. Aligns very well with your explenation of the flower. Most of the ways they are referred to in the Vedas are not at all how many in the west understand them today.
@TheNeighborhoodZenPriest
@TheNeighborhoodZenPriest 2 года назад
The colors of the different Chakras are a modern western invention or development if you prefer that description. Furthermore, not all Chakra systems agree on how many Chakras there are and exactly where they are. Something to keep in mind.
@TheRobLinden
@TheRobLinden 2 года назад
Just watched this video and I have a potential different view on the different systems of energy centres. I work with energy and some energy centres can coexist in the same physical place as other energy centres but be offset by level of vibration. In that way the centre pillar and eastern view of the personal chakra system could be two completely separate sets of energy centres. Just a thought.
@solargooseful
@solargooseful 3 года назад
Can you do a video on the tree of knowledge or the Qlippoth?
@arielshikoba1857
@arielshikoba1857 3 года назад
For anyone curious The Colours represent the (Frequency Number) of that chakra. For example: Your Heart electromagnetic energy/frequency Wave/ is 432❤ and another Chakra would be 732💙. Peace & Love 🌼😌
@scottschoen3362
@scottschoen3362 3 года назад
The speculative level of mind he is using is modeling in its nature, abilities entanglements as best it can. He doesn't know; knowing is different. What is needed to know and see what is actually there is beyond culture, symbols and visions. To know as what is there is even beyond that.
@Qu0thTheRaven
@Qu0thTheRaven 3 года назад
the chakra colors being a rainbow is not the original color correspondence i think thats more influence by studies in color psychology for therapeutic purposes. if you want the occult metaphysical stuff youre going to have to start a whole journey into eastern systems.
@dr.matthewhertert310
@dr.matthewhertert310 3 года назад
if you haven’t, i think you’d enjoy reading carolyn myss’s 'Anatomy of the Spirit.' she ties the christian sacraments, sefirot, and chakras symbolically. very helpful for this kind of analysis.
@cjmp200
@cjmp200 3 года назад
Beautiful. Did we just watch you patchwork?
@celestialarkon5634
@celestialarkon5634 3 года назад
Funny this video came up. I did independent information gathering, on the chakras and its correspondences to the Qabalah; and that was a while back (about 1-2 years). But...found a good website that "actually" corresponded the 10 Sephiroths "perfectly" with the 7 Chakras. However, in terms of Planetary correspondences, I found at least 5 different versions, regarding what Chakras correspondence to what planet (and at least 4 other versions doesn't correspond to the 10 Sephirots, just "pure" planetary correspondences). And, again, not knowing the MP (middle pillar) at the time, I cannot comment on this video, with its relation to the Indo-Dharmic Chakras.
@jeremiezulaski3774
@jeremiezulaski3774 3 года назад
Agreed, the planetary correspondences for chakras are varied. Where did you derive your sources from? Harish Johari and PF Case present the East/West distinction addressed in this video rather well as Vedic and Hellenistic astrology are different. This divergence is similar to the elemental/directional correspondences that FF has addressed in a few videos relating to the BRP already. I looked several popular and notable esoteric sources (Agrippa, Kraig, Tyson, Brand, Echols, McCarthy etc.) and made a table that displayed a lot of differentiation...
@celestialarkon5634
@celestialarkon5634 3 года назад
Correction: Going back to my document (and looking at it), I mean 4 versions, not 5. And 3 different versions not 4 that doesn't correspond to Qabalistic planetary Sephiroths.
@celestialarkon5634
@celestialarkon5634 3 года назад
@@jeremiezulaski3774 Hi there. One of the 4 versions (not 5) that I've found came from someone who've already done the correspondences. And that version is from the "Kabbalah Society", on an article written by Rebekah Kenton, who made the correlation (in a Kabbalistic perspective).
@jeremiezulaski3774
@jeremiezulaski3774 3 года назад
@@celestialarkon5634 Thanks for following up! Kenton's article is extremely concise (1 paragraph per comparison), utilizes one source, albeit a very credible one, and I cannot find any other writings by the author popular or scholarly. I'll give it a read and even though it appears a quick amateur exposition that follows a similar sephirotic merge approach I cam across (and commented in reply to a post on below).
@srmacaster9991
@srmacaster9991 3 года назад
So merkaba and the activation of the 7 chakras of tantra are the same or similar, right? What would be the mantra equivalents in merkaba or kabbalah to the mantras lam, vam, ram, yam, ham and om?
@Wild.Flower
@Wild.Flower 3 года назад
What a wonderful way of explaining this, it's really helped shift my understanding (as I'm new here I'm finding that a constant with your videos! :). P.s I want to change my username to Wild Blah.
@FoolishFishBooks
@FoolishFishBooks 3 года назад
😄🙏
@hockitibontas
@hockitibontas 3 года назад
The colour coding system only came about in the 70's as far as I've heard. I think Kurt Leland talks about it And there are way more chakras than 7, both within the body and extending beyond the head and feet. Essentially what is currently used through western teaching is the playschool version of chakras XD
@hockitibontas
@hockitibontas 3 года назад
Ok, got some dates mixed up but here's the vid where Leland breaks down the history of the modern western chakra system: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-12IfYlChipM.html
@FoolishFishBooks
@FoolishFishBooks 3 года назад
Thanks for this! Very interesting!
@melparadise7378
@melparadise7378 3 года назад
5 Chakra systems exist in the East too ;)
@HouseofWisdom888
@HouseofWisdom888 Месяц назад
And a 12 chakra system. 5 + 7 = 12. Hmmmm.... lol
@mindunwind9943
@mindunwind9943 3 года назад
In Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche the author describes the 6 Realms of Cyclic Existence as related to the Chakras and specifically relates the Hell Realm to a Chakra in the soles of the feet.
@hannakentm9913
@hannakentm9913 3 года назад
Good old Chinese Whispers/Telephone game at work. Nothing escapes it.
@Sirach-pv5xv
@Sirach-pv5xv 3 года назад
Nice video. I would recommend all magicians become strong in Throat Chakra. Is in fact responsible for Occult power.
@tanyabrown9839
@tanyabrown9839 3 года назад
Nothing works alone and others are needed in conjunction. Working exclusively on one and ignoring others can cause trouble. There are good and bad sides to each chakra so things should be done in balance.
@theoldaccount1891
@theoldaccount1891 3 года назад
Congratulations. Well explained and well thought through. I was thinking about the same thing a while ago and came to the conclusion that there are 2 completely different things. Chakra's have little to nothing to do with the Sephiroth, only very remote link e.g. similar placement in the body. Even the Chakra's have different levels and Westerns will tell you different things about Chakra's than Indians. (like in your villages) Same when you compare the Daoist/ Mantak Chia Teachings. In their tradition they don't talk about Chakra's they talk about a completely different level of energy system altogether.
@druid3
@druid3 3 года назад
I have meditated on the chakras for years and have had good results without any color visualizations. I wonder if the ROY G BIV scheme is just a mnemonic device.
@lookoutitscaleb
@lookoutitscaleb 3 года назад
To my knowledge the ROY g BIV system is something imprinted upon the chakras later by more recent yogis to help with visualizations. The original way in which they are referred to in the Vedas is that each center is a Temple housing a Deity with which we are to visit on our pilgrimage. Each center is related to a Deity or emanation of the Divine and the yogi meditates on the Concepts associated with that Deity. IE the root chakra is Brahma in the form of the Creator and ROOT of existence. The image used is Brahma with 4 arms and 4 heads seated atop a Lotus, and the Element is EARTH.
@tanyabrown9839
@tanyabrown9839 3 года назад
yes.. the colours of the rainbow were put onto the chakras to simplify things to aid in teaching people chakra basics but are not the actual colours there eg the heart chakra actually has no green in it at all but is a combination of gold with a little red which can be seen if one can see chakras properly. The front heart chakra actually looks like the inner part of the crown chakra. The crown chakra has nine hundred and sixty outer petals and twelve inner petals with the inner being nearly all gold and the outer petals being violet, blue, yellow, green orange and red. The throat chakra is mostly blue but also has some green and violet as well. If it wasnt decided to select the colours of the rainbow to represent the chakras, you can see it would cause much confusion as people would be drawing them in all different colours and getting what chakras are what confused, at least with the current system one can easily know which a person is refering too. To see a chakra they look like extremely beautiful mandalas to me, far more beautiful and complex than any drawings one sees can show them to be. If you want to activate a chakra more you do not need to think of any colours at all and can just simply focus attention on the chakra.
@yungxama1606
@yungxama1606 3 года назад
That makes me wonder how western esoterics regard gemstones and what role they have. Because as far as my knowledge goes gemstones refer to the chakra system
@MinkSoda
@MinkSoda 3 года назад
At 16:33 (Question: Is it possible the two systems are closely related with regard to the diagrams being the chakra diagram on the left and the Tree of Life interposed atop the Human figure on the left?) In my view, no they aren't. Right away, I see something amiss with respect to the color attributes of the chakra system and the color attributes of the Tree of Life. Color, in the chakra system, is a rate of vibration. Green appears physically green because of its vibratory rate when seen in the light. Green is the rate of vibration corresponding to the Heart chakra or energy center and at the Throat chakra that energy center vibrates at a higher rate, Blue. The Third eye chakra and the color Purple is Purple because it physically vibrates at its own natural rate, and so on. Moving over to the Tree of Life placements we see Purple at the solar plexus. It is known that the energy center of the solar plexus doesn't reach the vibratory rate of Purple representing higher consciousness. The Yellow / Orange solar plexus is the seat of lower consciousness or the "flight or fight" trigger center of Humans. I disagree with the placement of Malkuth at the feet of the Human (because the feet are what touches the Earth?) In my view, Malkuth, Brown, would be best attributed to the entire physical body including all the chakra energy centers of the physical body of which the energy centers exist as sub-sets. Thoughts?
@sherkory4444
@sherkory4444 3 года назад
Isnt the middle pillar all about grounding yourself to the physical and spiritual Realm, so you can more easily understand your left and right mind more thoroughly
@TheMaxKids
@TheMaxKids 3 года назад
Hemisync
@yarsss7463
@yarsss7463 2 года назад
In ancient Hindi traditions there are variations with 6 additional chakras above the head and below the feet
@totmihnea
@totmihnea 3 года назад
Thank you!! Great explanation and a great video! I understood more after watching this. My path started and developed with the chakra system. I just started to look into the tree ( read promethea and watching a course). Yes there might be similarities at a frist glance, but there are a lot of ifs and buts. Malkuth looks like the earth chakra (the are muich more chakra not just 7), or it could just be asociated with the legs chakras. Kether could be the 8th chakra or could be the monad-higher self chakra. BUt at the same time could be on a more subtle level like the hara line- dantiens is... and so on...Anyway i look foward to experience more of this dimension of the tree of life. It seems more of an intelectual style system. Although this could be beacause i just started with it. ;)
@horrorhabit8421
@horrorhabit8421 3 года назад
People seem very disturbed by the fact that there are different systems in the world that simply aren't mutually compatible, despite similarities. I've heard from people who will tell you that your root chakra is in the sole of your foot. This completely disorients the kundalini coil.
@brandoncallaway8835
@brandoncallaway8835 3 года назад
There is a chakra at the feet or just below the feet, if they were aiming for that I don't know. You actually have 240 chakras I think that extend all the way outside your body and into the field around you. If your just talking energy centers in the body, their are 72000 nadhis (channels) in the body and currents outside the body. It is very strange though that they move the energy up the center of the body. I have had a kundalini awakening and I was terrified to do this ritual: afraid that I would excite the energy in my body. It has it's applications. We have a toroidal field around our body and energy does get 'caught' and 'stuck' (stagnant energy) in it.
@andythedishwasher1117
@andythedishwasher1117 3 года назад
Ken Wilber addresses this in a very interesting way in his Brief History of Everything. He more or less looks at these different systems as different cultural habits surrounding the division of commonly experienced spectra. One example of this is the difference between the Western 12-tone system of musical scales and the Indian swara. In most cases, the Indian system is capable of reproducing and interpreting western music without much difficulty, but the reverse is frequently difficult or impossible. This is because the Indian system incorporates tonal ratios not found in the 12-tone system as well as the 12 tones. One could say it is a more expressive notation system, but western musicians will likely draw less information from it since their training and upbringing did not involve the use of these foreign tonal ratios, so their ears and instruments will not readily resonate with those intervals. It is possible to learn, but it requires a degree of neuroplasticity that is difficult to retain past one's teenage years. I would imagine a similar barrier exists when one is learning maps of one's own body. Since I have learned less about the Middle Pillar map, I have less visceral feelings associated with it than I do the chakras with which I've undergone some personal training. I don't consider the middle pillar inferior or less detailed, but as you said I think it probably has a somewhat different purpose due to the Abrahamic religious context of the practices. Since I've had to distance myself from Abrahamic religious worldviews for psychological reasons, it's become difficult to understand and engage with Qabballah within the wider occult milieu lately. I do think there is something very valuable in it, but it is veiled in so much mystery at present that I question the utility of exploring it before other more immediately therapeutic spiritual traditions like yoga and TM.
@andythedishwasher1117
@andythedishwasher1117 3 года назад
However, I concede that some Qabbalistic practices may indeed be immediately therapeutic if understood within a certain worldview that I've failed to construct for myself.
@L3onking
@L3onking 2 года назад
There's 7 Internal Chakras, There's more external Chakras, The Kabbalistic Centers represent the Chakras of Each Upward Dimension, So 1, 8, 16, 24, 32 You'll notice, those are the same colours.
@elineeugenie5224
@elineeugenie5224 3 года назад
The middle pillar reminds me of the Chinese middle channel more than of the chakra systems
@rafaelmoretti403
@rafaelmoretti403 2 года назад
The colors of the rainbow are upsidedown and Malkhut also goes only where the root chakra is.
@Di5functi0n3l_playp3n
@Di5functi0n3l_playp3n 3 года назад
theres another channel on youtube called brotherhood of eternal light.. BOEL mystery school. they have a guided middle pillar meditation video and as shes leading up to the 1st intonation of Keter she explains that the chakras are part of the etheric level of the material plane, and says that the centers of the middle pillar on the sefirot exist on the astral plane and says they have a higher efficiency due to this. comparing systems is not beneficial, they all have their merits when followed. but if your going to look for correlations between systems you must 1st clear your biases. the analogies can be perceived if you let go of you preconceptions but still, when you reach higher levels of spiritual and magical perception all this lower guiding starts starts to meld together and become meaningless and make much more sense honestly.
@noahdanielg
@noahdanielg 3 года назад
Your channel seems to mostly tackle Western Esotericism, but will Hinduism or Buddhism also be tackled at some point?
@FoolishFishBooks
@FoolishFishBooks 3 года назад
Tantra in the new year.
@jeremiezulaski3774
@jeremiezulaski3774 3 года назад
@@FoolishFishBooks That's a tall order of a highly complex field of doxis and praxis I have studied and recommend Alexis Sanderson, Hugh Urban, and David Gordon White for Hindu Tantra and Geoffrey Samuel for Tibetan Buddhist Tantra as an introduction in Western etic scholarship. Looking forward...
@malloreyfennessy4626
@malloreyfennessy4626 9 месяцев назад
Fun fact: Blath (pronounced Blah) is actually the gaelic for flower
@FoolishFishBooks
@FoolishFishBooks 9 месяцев назад
That is a very fun fact indeed! 😯
@tayton2172
@tayton2172 3 года назад
please review crowleys book 4
@Jose-db3hg
@Jose-db3hg Год назад
So wat is the morning star in the kabala tree
@yeseniarobles4289
@yeseniarobles4289 3 года назад
Aren’t the chakras our endocrine glands?
@jeremiezulaski3774
@jeremiezulaski3774 3 года назад
The correlations you mention have been suggested and the overlay is compelling for sure. They are a lot of things! They are an organizing framework and gateway into esotericism and like all magickal correspondences, the analogies extend pretty far: planets, elements, electromagnetic spectrum, psycho-somatic functions (related to endocrine, surely),principles of physics, tonal scales, numbers, Sanskrit letters and seed syllables, deities and their vehicles, anatomical and sensory faculties and corresponding sensory stimuli, on and on and on.
@archangelxero4462
@archangelxero4462 3 года назад
I wonder what are your thoughts on the Muslim sufi system of Lataif ? (Just Curious)
@hogasreluflorentin2105
@hogasreluflorentin2105 2 года назад
I am new to this and have no clues where to start from :/, i have a attraction for Kabbala but again no clue :/! HELP! :D
@kukukachu
@kukukachu 3 года назад
I've read about both of them and I personally think the the kabbalah center you have there is incorrect, especially when you learn that the tree of life is for manifesting ideas into reality. Manifesting is the same as birth. You are creating something at the unconscious, God level and from there you are incubating it, letting it grow and become more whole and when you get to the point where you can manifest it, it comes from where the sexual energy aka creation forms and thus is birthed into the world. The legs are basically a grounding for the energy to flow.I'll stop there for now, but just wanted to put that out there so you can get another perspective on this situation. Sexual energy is one of the most powerful energies of them all. Love is also extremely powerful and can fit nicely with sexual energy.
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