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Corrupt Horse Racing 4 (Newcastle 23/11/17) 

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Alexandrakollontai left 20l behind the pace setter... stone last. when it wants to stride out the jockey pulls it back to stop it. Why aren't the authorities looking into these disgusting none triers?,, these jockeys are deliberately stopping horses from even challenging. I'm not saying this horse would of won, but it drifted badly before the off, and was given this shambolic none try effort. They should be banned for life.

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@jondingwall9543
@jondingwall9543 6 лет назад
That's why I never back a horse ridden by Jamie Spencer...gives the entire field a five length start in almost every race
@joeskerry5640
@joeskerry5640 4 года назад
Thinks hes sat on fucking jets mate
@Charlieb82
@Charlieb82 3 года назад
He used to be a decent bet if he's travelled for one race - not so much anymore
@daviemac2653
@daviemac2653 Год назад
Having watched this a couple of times, the initial horse highlighted is Alexandrakollotai ridden by Charlie Bennett @11/1 (all career wins after being held up) so why would you be concerned about his run. Unless you take in to account it beat Testa Rossa @11/2, Zabeel Star@16/1 & Waarif @3/1 Fav last time out, but only narrowly and was 1Ib worse off at the weights, so the bookies didn’t think it was going to maintain that advantage based upon its position in the market. And the final highlighted horse Purple Rock@6/1 never won again for M W Easterby, but did after moving stables to Gay Kelleway nearly 2 years later, but not over 1m 2f but over 1m 4f. So in a final recap, it wasn’t corrupt just normal every day race riding with a couple of non going days for both horse and jockey.
@bowlchamps37
@bowlchamps37 Год назад
Well, this guy just puts up videos cause he´s a sore loser
@jeffarmstrong3017
@jeffarmstrong3017 4 года назад
I only bet on quality race meetings like royal ascot, glorious goodwood
@andrewharman8712
@andrewharman8712 3 года назад
He highlights a horse in 11th position just under a furlong out struggling and complains 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
@MrEddipp
@MrEddipp 3 года назад
Also highlights a horse that missed the break and got chopped off because the 1st bend comes up very quickly. Give up betting if you don't understand horse racing
@Charlieb82
@Charlieb82 3 года назад
Yeah jockeys know whether their horse has a chance and if it's 11th and around 10 lengths behind with a furlong to go, they're gonna ease up to save the horse from exhaustion - it's pointless running it into the ground at that stage
@rufus001
@rufus001 3 года назад
If its being run at the wrong trip then why the hell are you backing it?
@tombrown7880
@tombrown7880 3 года назад
If they warned off those Jockeys and Trainers for corruption there would be hardly any left, racing is not only rotten to the core it's rotten from the core
@michaelhopkins7878
@michaelhopkins7878 3 года назад
You pulled off the treble....3 videos where you backed the fav on the AW......try playing bingo mate 🙏
@juliehope9253
@juliehope9253 3 года назад
Keep them coming moore the better
@waddell1888
@waddell1888 6 лет назад
Well if you are smart enough to notice bet on it next time when you know it's going to win at a bigger price 🤑
@thabanimngomezulu8691
@thabanimngomezulu8691 4 года назад
Nice one makes absolute sense
@N3X0H
@N3X0H 4 года назад
jesus aren't you a daft autistic cunt
@thabanimngomezulu8691
@thabanimngomezulu8691 4 года назад
@@N3X0H fuck you very much
@raygrant4511
@raygrant4511 6 лет назад
Always used to have off school to go with my dad to the races back in the 70s/80s use to go with Rileys coaches of rotherham all over , they always left 30 mins after the last race wether your onboard or not , always got my dad at times leaving a winning bet due to a stewards enquiry in the last race , always happened at Ponti for some reason lol. grew up loving a bet myself but only gambled what i could afford after the bills were paid over the years but stopped even watching the sport now due to all the fixes in the king of sports. Jokeys holding horses up hoping for gaps ,giving the horse too much to do ect ect i know jockeys are only human and can miss judge situations but its clear on a lot that the jockey does not get the horse to run on its true merit. I also get cross with another thing that you see happening a lot Trainers running 2 3 4 or more of there horses in one race having the favourite being one of them only going in with one of the others at long odds . lol I used to go to Flapping traps in the 90s with a cple of greyhounds if i ran both in one race and the fastest dog lost i would not get out alive lol.
@tonyworrall5791
@tonyworrall5791 3 года назад
Funny how much that the outsider of the two or more horses from the same stable wins, very rarely the short price.
@gobstoppa1633
@gobstoppa1633 3 года назад
MINT. totally agree, disgusting behaviourm against all racing rules and sod all done about it.
@boxtie
@boxtie 6 лет назад
part of being shrewd is knowing that this occurs, read the signs...then try to judge when they are going to set it away. A hoss usually gets a handicap mark that is its optimum, it has to fall so it can win again for its owners...simple..
@TheeJeffrocco
@TheeJeffrocco 6 лет назад
I would stop going to Southwell
@leecorcoran6174
@leecorcoran6174 3 года назад
It’s Newcastle 😂😂😂😂😂🐎🐎🐎
@youknownada2326
@youknownada2326 Год назад
Paul Nicholls said in an interview that he had no other option but to run his horses wank so they drop weight so he can get them into better races.
@mattmillward3642
@mattmillward3642 6 лет назад
The horse just wasn't good enough the two other horses in orange and light blue that was at the back with him came through and gave a good showing. The horse you are talking about was just poor today.
@aidanjoyce3248
@aidanjoyce3248 5 лет назад
Whether there's cheating or not there is one thing to remember. You pays your money and you takes your chances.
@markgould9259
@markgould9259 3 года назад
Stop talking bollocks
@aidanjoyce3248
@aidanjoyce3248 3 года назад
@@markgould9259 spose you had a bad day at the gigis. 😆😆🐎🐎🐎
@markgould9259
@markgould9259 3 года назад
Not at all Appendage , lol
@mickharrison9004
@mickharrison9004 Год назад
The thing is they are all meant to do there best ,to ride out and horse to the best of there ability and if that is the fastest horse ,and big fav we know most of the time they never ride favs out ,when it's a close finish mostly favs come second you can even see a jockey give the fav a tug near the line just to make sure .
@beremill2184
@beremill2184 3 года назад
Imagination has far greater power on the internet than reality.
@andyjames2905
@andyjames2905 5 лет назад
you got mugged off there son
@jonathansteele9142
@jonathansteele9142 Год назад
Wherever there is money, there is corruption.
@troypowers6581
@troypowers6581 4 года назад
I could not see anything wrong with the way that race was run. Maybe the horse did not like the all weather (some horses don’t) , was it running at a distance that was not right or in a different class that it normally runs in, or was the horse not feeling right about running, some horses just don’t want to run on the day. Can’t force him to do some at he don’t to.
@reynoldjoseph6283
@reynoldjoseph6283 3 года назад
that as we call it in Trinidad is what we call a natural dock
@dwadlad
@dwadlad 3 года назад
How much did you lose?
@markwood2960
@markwood2960 Год назад
40 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN HORSE RACING BUT NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS . Chelmsford 11/02/2022 horse CIFFS OF FURY . full replay on racing uk . watch carefully as the horse comes there motionless to win the race and the jockey decides not to ? yet the stewards decide to do nothing . in all these videos I have watched on here nothing comes anywhere near this one
@alexandrakollontai7195
@alexandrakollontai7195 Год назад
I often watch this video for a laugh. I part owned this horse and had a good bet on her. She didn't get the trip and only ever won when she felt like it. We bet her every time she ran in the 7 years we owned her. I could show you plenty of disappointing runs and some tremendous runs. She always won coming off a fast pace but this was her one and only go at 1m 2f in over 100 races. I am sure you wont change your mind but that's just tough.
@slenjamiah
@slenjamiah 6 лет назад
Every sport is corrupt, you should know this
@peggypapczun2906
@peggypapczun2906 5 лет назад
So what else is new?
@TaiTuanTran
@TaiTuanTran 6 лет назад
Stick with greyhounds they don't take their orders from anyone. I gave up the GG's seeing deliberate holding back on many occasion. You can't win against inside knowledge. :-)
@bensouthwell1339
@bensouthwell1339 4 года назад
you can stop a dog by sticking your finger up its arse as you place it in the traps or squeeze its nuts...same result the greyhound loses all interest chasing a piece of fur around a track at break neck speed when its balls are throbbing
@bensouthwell1339
@bensouthwell1339 4 года назад
and you are ......what, do tell Mr Pathetic please do tell
@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv
@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv 4 года назад
Ben Southwell thanks for the tip, l won't be shaking hands with any greyhound handlers anytime soon!
@bensouthwell1339
@bensouthwell1339 4 года назад
I only wish I could get a bet on any thing in the uk....its a sad day when they ban all racing and close all betting shops ....a great tip I recieved years ago from an old timer that has very good win ratios *Back trap 3 when trap 3 is being well backed* we all know its the duff trap on the track anywhere in the world so the smart money tells you there is something smart in that box EXTRA SMART ...good luck for the future.
@stephenburke5967
@stephenburke5967 4 года назад
Bags greyhounds is put there by bookies who own the tracks and the racing manager.All 60 dogs at a 10 race card are worth zero as most cannot qualify to race in Ireland and are given free rather than put them down.90% of BAGS are from Ireland that absolutely hopeless.I sold a bitch to Sunderland track for £20 as she could not reach qualifying time in Ireland she won 22 races and in doing so still never reached Irish qualifying time.I would rate greyhound racing the most corrupted sport on the planet at the higher level.
@tonyworrall5791
@tonyworrall5791 3 года назад
The whole thing is rotten to the core.
@jondingwall9543
@jondingwall9543 6 лет назад
That's why I never back a horsecridden by Jamie Spencer...gives the entire fuels a five length start in almost every race
@chrisgrabowski2678
@chrisgrabowski2678 3 года назад
A) You're dishonest from the start. B) You've never ridden. C) You've never worked in the industry. D) The horse broke outward and hit the gate. He was not held back at the start. E) At best he was 10 lengths back still with the field when you insisted he was 20 lengths back. E) It is common practice and completely acceptable that a jockey not urge a horse to go all out once it has no chance of finishing in the money and/or the race is essentially over. F) You offered no proof that the jockey ono the inside stopped riding when you highlighted him. G) You know nothing about the rules of racing. H) You should not comment or gamble on a sport you do not understand.
@tombrown7880
@tombrown7880 3 года назад
Shut up you never tried a leg
@tbagandfriendschannel5466
@tbagandfriendschannel5466 3 года назад
The commentator even says 20l off
@henryrussell3494
@henryrussell3494 5 лет назад
Simple horse gets well backed the bookies ring the trainer the trainer tells the jockey be lazy on him today son . They let the odd one threw to bluff you
@sheldonwalz4016
@sheldonwalz4016 6 лет назад
You shouldn't bet nothing worse than a bad loser on the punt
@ryanblunden5575
@ryanblunden5575 5 лет назад
You're talking bullshit. The horse didn't win a race for nearly a year after this despite many runs.
@andypattison1997
@andypattison1997 3 года назад
And you backed it 😂
@paullittle4622
@paullittle4622 6 лет назад
Nothing new here
@TheChrishoughton
@TheChrishoughton 4 года назад
Ridiculous. I have no idea what you are trying to say..
@christownsend2220
@christownsend2220 Год назад
Hold up horse
@paulrigby6008
@paulrigby6008 3 года назад
I take it you dont watch novice chasers and hurdles in Ireland...Somebody is paying 400/500 a mth to keep that horse in training...They are not doing for the benefit of Joe and his £5/£10 bets with bet365 or Laddies...No more cheating than Corton Lad the front runner that goes off at an impossible pace and drops out 2f out...I suggest Portman Park or Steepledowns more your level
@TheBdylan23
@TheBdylan23 3 года назад
There was a time when you could have a horse in training in Ireland for €400/€500 per month, check out prices now, you will be shocked, but I do agree with you.
@darrenpotter4400
@darrenpotter4400 4 года назад
Have u still got this page???
@mboorman123
@mboorman123 6 лет назад
i'd probably give up if I were you, mate!
@johnclegg4993
@johnclegg4993 3 года назад
Jamie Osborne and Jamie Spencer crooked.
@stevieg7369
@stevieg7369 3 года назад
Terrible video by a problem gambler imo - doubt it if he/she has ridden a horse in a race or has trained one
@lalbaz121
@lalbaz121 6 лет назад
This is stupid people game nobody is winner in this horse racing is a gangster s and corrupt people's hobby
@bensouthwell1339
@bensouthwell1339 4 года назад
the handicapper takes full notice of how a horse races as well as its position at the end of a race. The horses rating will not drop if its a non trier so pretty pointless running them for that purpose. Racing has never been straighter in all its long history.
@frankspencer6935
@frankspencer6935 3 года назад
Horse racing is unpredictable because horses can have all kinds of issues, even without any skullduggery. If you have ever stood at a racecourse and seen the stable staff you would know that even they don't know what horse will win any given race. You really need to do a lot of homework or have the right info as a backer to stand any chance. It isn't any worse than football when the best players in the world can't score another goal, they couldn't give two shits about messing up your accumulator more interested in adding another Lambo to their collection.
@johnkolose867
@johnkolose867 6 лет назад
..yea its like a tip that was giving ..( horses name ) Icheebum ..as long as its not scratched in the last ...! ?
@tommytimetelevision3316
@tommytimetelevision3316 3 года назад
Never understood doing millionaire man bets on Fave's to win 75p for every £1
@thomaspridmore106
@thomaspridmore106 3 года назад
Where £ moneys involved there will always be corruption I’ve seen many times you just have to work out who’s on the fiddle
@bobgomavitz1330
@bobgomavitz1330 4 года назад
Reading all these I can understand it, but I have to ask.....Read lots comment that they scrubbed the race in order to get higher odds down the road...correct? If so, this makes me think.....Are they winning more by betting vs the size of the purse? Love to hear
@Charlieb82
@Charlieb82 3 года назад
If this was done deliberately there's no guarantee that they would get higher odds in later races. The ratings are calculated based on the competitors future performances as well as the individual horses. If the horses it gets beat off go on to do well, then its rating won't decrease that rapidly, but if the other horses go on to do nothing then they must have been poor and beatable, so the rating will go down more - the rating system is quite complex. Then factor in that when you drop in the ratings you also drop back in class. This means that you're going up against possibly weaker horses (apart from those that are less exposed) and you're deemed as being a better horse because you'll likely be top weight in the lower class races (your rating doesn't drop that fast not to be), so therefore your odds will also be one of the shortest in the next race. Longer odds are only really gained from a poorer lineage and really long term poor performances against other horses who have done nothing in future races. The biggest way people can cheat is to lay the bet on the exchanges - betting against your horse winning. So if a jockey finishes 2nd or 3rd it looks as though they have tried, but you could get them to ease up. I still think this is hard to do though as horses tend to just go when they're racing and if you eased it up it would be obvious.
@bradleykitts4387
@bradleykitts4387 4 года назад
Something you have to realise is that trainers will tell jockeys to lose it because then they get bigger prices for future races and also why is a jockey gonna try gain that back from that little distance he had 0 chance may have kicked it up a gear but they were a tough competition
@seanscanlon9067
@seanscanlon9067 3 года назад
No they do not tell jockeys to lose it. They don't have to, as there are numerous other ways not to win.
@markcarruthers9902
@markcarruthers9902 4 года назад
Now that was stopped
@thomassmith2227
@thomassmith2227 4 года назад
Everything you state is absolute nonsense, it's like the diary of a losing punter!!! Just admit you were wrong to bet on it and move on....
@brandonduhon3136
@brandonduhon3136 4 года назад
The reason this is done .. is because the way racing is setup ... they should all be within 2..lbs of each other
@joejewell2111
@joejewell2111 6 лет назад
Mugs
@paulmorphy6187
@paulmorphy6187 6 лет назад
Racing is a waste of time without knowledge presented to you that the bookies don't know...every day thousands of punters receive the same information that is freely available to everybody...its just not enough to give you an edge...give it up its a complete mugs game without inside info. Ever seen that horse with no form whatsoever go from 20/1 into 8/1 and win? I bet you never backed it, but the people on the inside did because they had the info and you had your limited info with no knowledge of whats really happening behind the scenes.
@mgcornish1405
@mgcornish1405 4 года назад
I’m more with horses and it’s ok but you get money ok you at least have a horse that won I have them so go get sucked
@matthewhill3958
@matthewhill3958 4 года назад
Rule number 1...dont back on shite races. Focus on major races as they all want to win
@mikelion6963
@mikelion6963 4 года назад
If u all know its corrupt then stop fucking betting on it simple
@mickwill8952
@mickwill8952 5 лет назад
All ways the favs
@seanscanlon9067
@seanscanlon9067 3 года назад
This horse was 11/1.
@nickedwards2904
@nickedwards2904 4 года назад
the 20+ length headline you keep stressing has no relevance does it as that horse never won the race, the fact he was at the back of a group that caught and won the race is probably more sensible. The horse did seem to be off the bridle big time round the final bend when others were not. I am not a spencer fan at all and agree he is a shit jockey but not seen enough here to suggest this was bent at all. The horse up the rail being stopped had a horse right in front of him and you hghlighted him 50 yrds from the line !!!! There are lots of races that look dodgy but struggling to see this as one of them
@Eleventhearlofmars
@Eleventhearlofmars 3 года назад
This fella is just talking through his empty pockets mate, he’s a mug punter who probably backs favs blind in virtually every race inc virtual lol.
@lyndakierans9256
@lyndakierans9256 6 лет назад
The jockey ( Club) is going over what 2 hundred years or more everyone has a price or figure ,sex drugs an the biggest ripoffs ever (rip sid) vicious
@josephrowlands1288
@josephrowlands1288 3 года назад
have you ever ridden a horse? talklng through either your wallet or your arse
@thedownfieldsyndrome6216
@thedownfieldsyndrome6216 6 лет назад
Don’t entirely get what you are trying to do here, anybody who follows Horse Racing daily knows it’s bent and it’s the fiddles we are trying to find at value. Of course it’s bent, it’s about getting weight down to a winnable mark and you don’t do that by being in the front 3 and roaring home, what you are actually doing is highlighting well handicapped Horses that should be going in your notebook and not on RU-vid
@andrewgood9041
@andrewgood9041 4 года назад
Do not bet on horse racing the only winners are the bookmakers and the connections of the horses the whole game is rigged if you cannot except that do not bet on horses .
@MarkPearsonmrp
@MarkPearsonmrp 3 года назад
What a load of twaddle
@nickflora3532
@nickflora3532 5 лет назад
corupt u bet over and over
@JASPER13415
@JASPER13415 6 лет назад
Do you seriously think every horse in every race is trying to win?! Get the weight down for payday..C'mon son work it out! Everybodys gotta eat!!...Simples!!
@umutlarpesinde
@umutlarpesinde 3 года назад
this are all done on porpose becouse they still win becouse they lay horse to lose soo they still win
@seanscanlon9067
@seanscanlon9067 3 года назад
This horse was 11/1 in a 12 runner race and you do not usually have to throw a race under those circumstances in order for it to get beaten.
@robertduffy3644
@robertduffy3644 3 года назад
It's all over they fix races, I've gone to the track for fifty years and I will not drop big money on any race. I learned the hard way. It's disgusting more so now than ever. Holidays tax time, stay the fuck away from the track. Its bad all the time but even worse when people have a few bucks in there pocket. I've stayed away for 2 years now and I'm very grateful for it. Oh and please stay away from harness tracks. Especially in Australia and Europe. One driver ruins the entire harness track.
@jamesdonaldson8195
@jamesdonaldson8195 3 года назад
Yes it's apparently true a lot of holding back on horse racing the only good races are the group 1 or big purse race most are apparently hopelessly biased in other words crooked complain to the BHA they have a reporting form it's outragious horse racing in United Kingdom and Ireland and America apparently biased
@dsfailtv7202
@dsfailtv7202 4 года назад
just one question how much you lost? when you get pissed and made this video :D
@johnvaranakis9846
@johnvaranakis9846 Год назад
Stick to virtual, or PP bingo.
@LB-hw5bi
@LB-hw5bi 5 лет назад
The winner of the irish Derby 2019 should be investigated and the trainer warned off it was a complete set up for it to win, I've never witnessed such a disgraceful race where jockeys never tried to catch the leading horse talk about bent racing.
@TheBdylan23
@TheBdylan23 3 года назад
Sovereign won the Irish Derby 2019 in a record time, shaving 1.5 seconds off the old record. ( 2nd 3rd and 4th were on the pace) The difference in stud fees for a Derby winner and an "also ran" runs into millions, so they are all trying, not least the two supplementary entries that cost their owners €85,000 each to take part!
@LB-hw5bi
@LB-hw5bi 3 года назад
@@TheBdylan23 The horse was stopped in the other derby and given a start in the irish the others were not on the pace they were kept behind like the newcastle race, I dont know what race you were watching you should go to specsavers. The newcastle track had a race over the same distance that the steward won only days later and the winner clocked 9 seconds faster than the steward, thats 36 lengths at 4 lengths a second but all the horses raced on merit and were not pulled back at all.
@TheBdylan23
@TheBdylan23 3 года назад
@@LB-hw5bi Is that Liam Brown?
@Amstecos
@Amstecos 4 года назад
More spoof..
@dominicthespacemandale6738
@dominicthespacemandale6738 4 года назад
Did he ruin your 5 pound treble lad😂
@TheLethalaim
@TheLethalaim 4 года назад
Doubt it was a max bet as he said it was the wrong trip himself. Maybe a quid on the nose.
@johnblanchard5525
@johnblanchard5525 3 года назад
The handicapping system fosters pulling horses. You know. I know. Everybody knows. So limit your betting to Stakes races or big meetings on a Saturday when horses are much more likely to be trying. This foul mouthed whingeing is embarrassing.
@nickedwards2904
@nickedwards2904 3 года назад
20 lengths off a leader that ended up 10th and beaten by 15 lengths lol the horse was about 5 lengths off the eventual winner , which is the only sensible measurement to take at the points that you did
@Kevin19886
@Kevin19886 5 лет назад
it all fix horse racing is the owner tells the jockey to lose so they get a better price on the next outing he be a BF so the price in next race will be like 10/1 and he will win it
@silverkitty2503
@silverkitty2503 5 лет назад
Dude ....do you even ride?
@KimsCarp-course-Fishing-Shorts
We all know that horse racing is fixed !!! :-) :-) just read the signs and get on the one they have fixed to win and you can't loose. L.O.L good luck !
@seancummins8817
@seancummins8817 3 года назад
Just because you back losers doesn't mean you have to make a video on it and say they cheat haha grow up
@barbaradyson6951
@barbaradyson6951 4 года назад
Ah yes I believe the BHA have an interest in the rebels so called allegations.
@paullittle4622
@paullittle4622 6 лет назад
It is extremely difficult to comment on the corruption that goes on in horse 🐴 racing, because that's what horse 🐴 racing is corruption, get use to it, as it is never going to change, ask Mr ED
@David.L291
@David.L291 6 лет назад
hahahaha ask Mr Ed hahaha brilliant, have you seen him lately and what did he say hehehehehe :)
@paullittle4622
@paullittle4622 6 лет назад
David Lench Wilbur come into the room Wilbur
@stevedgolfer
@stevedgolfer 6 лет назад
Give up.
@clivesangster7274
@clivesangster7274 4 года назад
Learn to spell.
@clivesangster7274
@clivesangster7274 5 лет назад
Learn to spell
@79martinb
@79martinb 4 года назад
What are ye a bleedin spelling agent for google.fuck off twat
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