Porsche vs Singer: Is Porsche Coming for You Next?

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Customizing or modifying your Porsche 911 or classic 356, could you be next in line for a visit from the Porsche Lawyers? Could Porsche sue you? Porsche and Singer have settled their legal battle but is this the last time we'll hear from the Porsche lawyers, or are Porsche looking to sue you? Discover the controversy surrounding Porsche's lawsuits and lawyers for alleged intellectual property infringement. Explore the intricate world of custom car modifications and the challenges posed by trademark rights and artistic expression. Join us as we unravel the complexities of these legal sagas and its implications for the future of automotive design. Fines, cease and desist letters, court dates and perhaps destroyed and crushed cars, is this coming to a country or town near you. Subscribe now for more automotive insights!
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@Fatty420 5 дней назад

In an effort to prevent brand dilution their tactics end up diluting their brand. Bold move.

@OutlawGarage 5 дней назад

It’s risky by Porsche that’s for sure

@kevinbodman1011 5 дней назад

You would think Porsche would be happy that owners are restoring there cars spending money at Porsche classic.

@OutlawGarage 5 дней назад

Totally, it seems crazy to me to go after small garages and individuals

@aphromew4502 5 дней назад

I would understand brand dilution for reconstructed cars, like straight kit cars, but hopefully that doesn't apply to restorations

@OutlawGarage 5 дней назад

I agree but women of these restomods in Europe seem to be attracting the attention of Porsche

@mattstanbridge 5 дней назад

I can't find any information on Porsche confiscating an ev converted 911. Surely this would show up somewhere. And if they don't own the car I find it hard to imagine that they are legally allowed to take someone else's property.

@OutlawGarage 5 дней назад

You’re right but I did a search on a number of documents I received and couldn’t find any. I don’t know if this is a EU thing or what, but the documents are real so it’s very strange.

@keithbuxton5671 5 дней назад

I think that its the outlaw and restomod cars that have brought Porsche back into the limelight over the last 10 to 15 years. Without these companies there brand would be boring. If someone is prepared to pay loads of money for a Singer then Porsche is missing out. Why dont porsche build a restomod?

@OutlawGarage 5 дней назад

It would be a great market for Porsche, but Porsche prices would mean only a very select few could afford it

@g5k830 5 дней назад

I get that builders like Singer are possibly taking away new car business from Porsche as price points are targeting the same market as their new car buyers. I wonder if this is the unspoken concern. It’s a pretty unique product development situation using someone else’s product as a donor to the creation of new IP. I wonder if Porsche should follow the lead of Nintendo, Atari etc and start making their old stuff again. You would have people lining up to buy an old 911 remade by Porsche today with new tech and techniques.

@OutlawGarage 5 дней назад

If Porsche made an Aircooled 911 again the market would go nuts. Hopefully they could price it sensibly, but I doubt it. There was mention of development in some of the documentation I read, not the easiest to read with google translate though. Using Porsche’s product base for your own development is risky, especially if you advertise it as well.

@g5k830 5 дней назад

@@OutlawGarage They should totally do it, it would reinvent the brand. So many of us into that wouldn’t buy what they make now. It seems so obvious and surely it’s easier than the complex cars built today. They can also see there’s a market.

@OutlawGarage 5 дней назад

And they should be able to do it and still be compliant with emissions I would have thought, surely they can do that. We should be the first 2 on the list!

@g5k830 5 дней назад

@@OutlawGarage my deposit is down (hydrogen combustion air cooled 🤔)

@981_pdk3 5 дней назад

Interesting video I guess the modifications depends on how easily it can be removed. If you order a track car and a non brand passenger seat is added then I guess it can be removed for sale and return it to like it left factory. Sometimes certain models get non branded exhausts as well. It’s all a bit crazy

@OutlawGarage 5 дней назад

I though the conversation of a narrow body car to a wide body and Porsche being upset was very harsh

@dra911 2 дня назад

Note the enormous disclaimer on the latest Singer videos. Surely they will not do "a Ferrari" and go after individuals. Modifications have been part of Porsche from the get go. Curious to know about some of these other stories now, especially since I love modifying my own car!

@OutlawGarage День назад

It seems very strange but perhaps it’s due to EU rules being much stronger. Some very odd situations

@dra911 День назад

I'm in France, so I guess I'll see how I go. There are lot of shops working on old 911s and providing parts over here, so what's the line that we shouldn't cross? One assumes companies like RUF have some sort of agreement with Porsche then?

@OutlawGarage День назад

@@dra911 RUF have an agreement in place. the line seems to be very blurred.

@tonmanify 5 дней назад

The EU has some very strong competition laws & that may be why Porsche is going hard in Europe but not (sa far) anywhere else. Copyright can be messy too, in that if a brand doesn't defend itself from every alleged breach, then that counts against it in future cases. So Porsche might be at least partially painted into a corner by tough EU laws and needing to go after every little instance to protect itself in case any big instances come up in the future. Whatever the reason though, it's weird to be taking legal action against people for personalising their own cars.

@OutlawGarage 4 дня назад

Yes the EU definitely have different,and it appears stronger rules. Going after individual garage about individual cars is wild

@tonmanify 4 дня назад

@@OutlawGarage sure is - makes it really hard to understand Porsche's endgame.

@historychannel8457 5 дней назад

It might be time to look for another fav brand. Who love their customers back. Poor empathy. Great video. Great points. "Holding People Back from creativity..."

@OutlawGarage 5 дней назад

Thanks It all seems very strange. We haven’t seen any of this in Australia but it’s just really concerning

@brendankeenanFF 5 дней назад

Any word on whether they have reached out to Rod Emory? He’d be out of business if they were serious.

@OutlawGarage 5 дней назад

Not sure, but his website does make a clear position about what he does. I suspect others haven't been as clear...

@diegohorton869 5 дней назад

Vin # tells you if it’s real Porsche or not. Porsche is a Porsche no matter what. Modified or not. If it’s a remanufactured its boby is still a Porsche.

@OutlawGarage 5 дней назад

But for example, when a shop has done so much “development” and work on the car, at what point does it potentially become something else?

@diegohorton869 5 дней назад

@@OutlawGarage I think when the Porsche is made “factory” it’s an undoubtedly a Porsche. It goes to a private owner, “it’s a Porsche” it’s entire life is a Porsche. Don’t care what part is changes happens, modified or remanufactured, it’s a Porsche. You can’t sell it any other way, outlaws, Singers, Ruff. Porsche Lawyers not able to remove its name from these cars as I think they want to. It’s not a smart business decision overall but who’s going to stop this silly nonsense, as an enthusiast we should get petition to ask them to stop this, I would sign it. The old cars are ours to do as we please or a business that does the work. We are not restricted by anybody, no lawyer can say we can’t call it what it is.

@TheDjcarlos67 5 дней назад

Don’t be silly

@OutlawGarage 5 дней назад

Good point but some of the confidential information people provided me was very scary and concerning, but there are always 2 sides to a story

@Georgebarber1 5 дней назад

I think it's unlikely but not outside the realms of possibility that our ac community could be hassled for altering our cars. Although most of us with these cars might well get a smack across the knuckles, you my friend are in deep shit with your garage. 😂

@OutlawGarage 5 дней назад

I’m not answering the door to any random strangers 🤣