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Could this Railway ever be Reopened in the Future? The Scarborough to Whitby Railway Part 3 

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Could this Railway ever be Reopened in the Future? The Scarborough to Whitby Railway Part 3
The Scarborough to Whitby Railway opened back in 1885 and lasted until 1965
An absolute loss to the community and would almost certainly been of great benefit today.
Could and should the Scarborough to Whitby Railway be reopened in some form?
Join me as i pose this question as well as picking up where i left off last time out at Ravenscar.
We behin by taking a look inside Ravenscar Tunnel. An absolute delight!
Next up its back to breathtaking scenary as we drop down the fields and clifftops, bypassing Ravenscar Brick Quarry and down towards Fyling Hall and our final destination today or Robin Hoods Bay.
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@adrianbew9641
@adrianbew9641 Год назад
We asked ourselves the same question 17 years ago at helston railway, there was no rail, in filled cuttings, no stations, missing bridges, houses built on the original track bed. Dedicated volunteers said yes and work began, we are at present 1.5 miles of new track and a further half mile preparing to lay. All costs are funded by ticket sales, membership fees and public donations. There's still over 6 Miles to negotiate sale or lease of the track bed, stations to build and huge amounts of money to raise. We will succeed, it will take a lot of years and possibly at least one other generation to see it come to complete fruition, but there are always dedicated enthusiasts and others to come along after us to complete what we started. That line could happen in the same manner.
@neilbaldwin592
@neilbaldwin592 Год назад
Good for you guys getting your sleeves rolled up and getting on with it. It may take years but you’ll get there and what you have achieved will benefit generations to come.
@Elliothannaford-ee7nh
@Elliothannaford-ee7nh Год назад
Elliot hannaford you to day
@edwinholland6149
@edwinholland6149 Год назад
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@TheGramophoneGirl
@TheGramophoneGirl Год назад
There are so many benefits to reinstating this line, whether as a heritage or even normal railway. The Yorkshire coast is tourist central, yet becomes gridlock in peak tourist season. How cool to go by rail? esp with all the environmental considerations of today.
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Год назад
It would be absolutely amazing wouldn't it? I'll definitely be back to go on North Yorkshire Moors Railway soon too ♥️
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Год назад
@@carlharris2808 blimey yes I've heard they can be around
@Teesbrough
@Teesbrough Год назад
After she died, I found the notes of a special diesel train tour my Mum did on this line on 24/8/1961. The tour was part of a Summer School in York on ‘Railway and Canal Buildings’, with Tom Rolt, Michael Robbins and others. Lecturer’s notes for the trip state it took 13 years to build the line at £27,000/mile (£2.85m/mile in 2023 inflation adjusted), ‘without any real hope of an adequate return’. Personally, I’d love to see it reopen but chances of that happening in my lifetime are close to zero. Loving your video though!
@ldb281
@ldb281 Год назад
Thanks so much for what you do. Its very enlightening. I think most of us will appreciate the tremendous trouble you go to, and your infectious enthusiasm. Keep it up mate. All the best to you
@philiprufus4427
@philiprufus4427 Год назад
Really enjoyed this,seen many of these lines in books after closure. Walked and travelled by train previously as a kid in the late fifties and early sixties many former lines in Scotland. Once met a group of pensioners back in the noughties on a cycle track who remembered troop trains of young Americans passing by train. The trains were slow and on an upward gradient,so the soldiiers used to throw sweets and chocolate to the kids.This was on The Princes Pier Line, closed the same year finally.Back in the mid sixties,Beeching got the blame for it all. However the man behind it was Earnest Marples, conservative transport minister and the man who appointed Richard Beeching. Marples was chairman of the biggest construction conglomerate in the UK at the time. Guess what, - they had all the government contracts for new roads and motorways. Marples was later discovered to owe thirty years worth of unpaid tax,he did one to Luxembourg,then France,where he had a chateux. You think corrupt politicians are an invention of the last twenty odd years ?
@2010ditta
@2010ditta Год назад
Very enjoyable part 3, with some lovely archive photo's and footage of the old days. And just as an aside...one of the loco's, Fairburn tank 42083 has been preserved at the Lakeside and Haverthwaite railway. All the best.
@martinmarsola6477
@martinmarsola6477 Год назад
Thank you for the continuing trek along the railway line and existing remains. Always a pleasure to see you on the journey. Have a cracking weekend and week ahead! Cheers Ant! 🇬🇧👍🙂🇺🇸
@chrisbentleywalkingandrambling
It is certainly a testament to British engineering that these beautiful bridges and tunnels are still in place, all be it a little worn. That must have been some gradient that it needed two locomotives to pull the carriages. Another great video Ant with perfect lighting on the pictures in the tunnel. Some excellent research. You asked if people would be interested in you covering the tramway from the colliery across the Moors, well I definitely would be interested. Thanks as always, Ant, for this amazing video. I really appreciate it.
@simongleaden2864
@simongleaden2864 Год назад
I can't see it being restored to use. What could they do at Scarborough? A new station to the north of the Sainsbury's that has been built over the southern end of the route? Would they reinstate the line down to Whitby Town station to link with National Rail & the NYMR, or settle for a rebuilt West Cliff station? There would be so many difficulties, and would the region be deprived of its very popular and well used Cinder Track foot and cycle path?
@lindamccaughey6669
@lindamccaughey6669 Год назад
That was fantastic Ant. Those beautiful bridges and that stunning tunnel. I am really loving this series. Those pics of steam trains was icing on the cake. Thanks for taking me along. Please take care
@chrisbonsor7805
@chrisbonsor7805 4 месяца назад
Walked said Ravenscar to Robin Hoods Bay 13th June and then to watch your wonderful video it puts everything in to perspective. Thank you
@Paggerd
@Paggerd Год назад
Great content again, thanks. If I may be allowed one suggestion it would be a before and after location shot from the old photographs you show. It would give an interesting perspective of how the line has changed over the years.
@johnhalley974
@johnhalley974 Год назад
That was a great vid….And the Man from Delmonte..He says Yessss
@dilwyn1
@dilwyn1 Год назад
As always ... Stunning photo stills
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it thank you
@barrythedieselelectricstea5217
excellent video as always yes this should be reopened 100% it was there to serve the community and should be put back it should have never closed
@janepatricia8779
@janepatricia8779 Год назад
Brilliant video as usual Ant,such a good walk ,the bridges were so colourful, and the Station at Robin hoods Bay is lovely, well done, p.s,hope your back pack wasn't heavy on this long walk😊 xx
@simonballard6413
@simonballard6413 Год назад
Marvellous video, Ant. We lived in that area and I travelled the line when it was open. I always enjoyed Ravenscar tunnel and the Falsgrave one at Scarborough. I think there would certainly be many benefits to reinstating the whole line. Can you make it happen, please? (!!) Send your great videos to Department of Transport!
@NickB_Yorkshire
@NickB_Yorkshire Год назад
Another fantastic video Ant. Really enjoyed it. Amazing scenery and some great old photos and film footage. Incredible that you can still see the sleeper indentations in the track bed nearly 60 years on 😯. Looking forward to Part 4 👍🏼😁
@alankennedy3398
@alankennedy3398 Год назад
Looking forward to part 4 of the journey along this beautiful old track bed . It’s hard to understand why it was closed as there appears in your old footage (which incidentally I love how you mix into your videos ) some fairly long trains indicating the line was potentially quite well used . Keep up the good work !!
@andrewmatley7688
@andrewmatley7688 Год назад
another great video Ant great info on the route of the disused railway line keep em coming mate.
@macstyle2012
@macstyle2012 Год назад
That always has been a steep gradient. I remember doing that section on my bike and could almost freewheel quite a distance from Ravenscar to Robin Hoods Bay - and same from Robin Hoods Bay towards Scarborough had quite a downhill section too.
@mcmarky1985
@mcmarky1985 Год назад
Love this Ant! I'm up in Yorkshire this weekend not sure I'll be able to do the lot but I'm definitely gonna get myself along part of this route! It looks a truly stunning walk thank you so much for sharing. My suggestion for you this time would be Hoffman Kiln Craven Lime Works near Settle.
@terryansell6641
@terryansell6641 3 месяца назад
Your videos are getting better and better you should get some award very soon
@craig7038
@craig7038 6 месяцев назад
Thank you pal, very professional and informative absolutely love your work.
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration 6 месяцев назад
Very kind thank you. I hope you enjoy the entire series
@rodsmith3911
@rodsmith3911 8 месяцев назад
Probably the best part of the route and you had glorious weather for the walk! Great at any time of the year but spring and high summer offer different flora and show the scenery off at its best. I think there's little chance of it ever being a railway again but it's a sad loss that's only partly repaid by being available to walk and cycle the route unlike so many other lost lines like the Great Central which have been lost for ever over much of their routes. Nice memories at the end of the video as my stepdaughter's wedding reception was in R H Bay village hall which is at the old station back in 2003! Thanks for the work you put in to make sure that the video is full of interest and not just a walk along the line.
@stephenharper9961
@stephenharper9961 Год назад
Also did you spot the original signal box hiding away at robin hoods bay? Someone has really looked after it very well, also I stayed in the station loft conversion in robin hoods bay and I loved it so much
@Cromwelldunbar
@Cromwelldunbar Год назад
Excellent commentary! Well done! Intro’ music well chosen to accompany the many points of interest highlighted and explained, b/w worthy steam engine photo shots of those valiant locos doing their loyal performances, bless ‘em all for ever and ever! Most watchable indeed! Whole documentary narrative and filming deserves top marks and an award! Good continuation!
@paulaj2829
@paulaj2829 11 месяцев назад
Love the video & again very pleased of you giving all the info because if I knew all this before we went along here I wood have tried to investigate more of the area in stead of falling of my bike 🤣😂 but it was the 1st week in Sept that we were up there but will definitely go back & not fall off.🙂
@concernedcitizen5826
@concernedcitizen5826 Год назад
Great video thank you sir!
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Год назад
Thanks very much 😊
@TheRogey1
@TheRogey1 Год назад
just love the amazing shots and eerie music😀
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Год назад
Brilliant thanks very much 😁
@Carolb66
@Carolb66 Год назад
Another brilliant video Ant, so beautiful & yes should be reopened for a tourist destination, so much potential & hope it happens one day. The tunnel was amazing! With the 'cubbies'still there in the walls to stand in if you are in the tunnel & a train comes! Fab photos esp the steam train coming out of the tunnel. Cant wait for part 4 ❤😊
@martinmessias57
@martinmessias57 Год назад
Superb videos, thanks so much for making them.
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Год назад
So pleased you enjoyed them Martin 😌
@lilchris26
@lilchris26 Год назад
Another excellent video Ant, nice pictures too showing the history, what a superb line this was.
@gagwithgaffer8385
@gagwithgaffer8385 Год назад
Really well presented, you should be on the TV :) subscribed!
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Год назад
Very kind Oliver thank you. Part 4 will be along in a couple of weeks
@daystatesniper01
@daystatesniper01 Год назад
Another superb video , should it re-open hmmm yes but will it no ,too much money with no instant return which is demanded these days
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 Год назад
Steam Trains are dirty, inefficient, smell, very hard to maintain BUT are such a beautiful sight to see. Nothing beats vintage steam of any kind. Ant, thanks for posting another enjoyable watch.....
@shona1578
@shona1578 7 месяцев назад
Brilliant little series, this, thank you! Liked and subscribed! I am convinced that many of the Beeching cuts will be reinstated over the next hundred to hundred and fifty years, as successive generations grapple with climate change and more sustainable public transport solutions. And routes like this that are still largely intact and with huge tourist appeal will come sooner rather than later. I live in Whitby and would love to go to Scarborough by train, but sadly can't see it happening in my lifetime though [sigh...].
@Olleetheowl
@Olleetheowl Год назад
I watch quite a lot of your videos. Living in Ilkeston, and holidaying often in Robin hoods bay. We stop at the caravan site just outside of R.H.B. and the “cinder track” runs past out caravan….Very enjoyable as usual
@marybradley7791
@marybradley7791 Год назад
Great video, some great old footage and photos, i dont think it will ever re open but if it did i think it would most likely be as a tramline with a tram doing a loop round Scarbrough on the road to the station, or terminating at sainsburys using part of the car park as a new terminus station,
@robertbush6652
@robertbush6652 Год назад
What an extension to the North York Moors Railway!
@philliphammond399
@philliphammond399 Год назад
Hi Ant, nice production with some lovely old pictures, a road with no cars! This railway should never have closed, what a "Tourist Line" it would make. Thank you.
@SteveCowey-ib1mo
@SteveCowey-ib1mo 4 месяца назад
Excellent, really enjoyed that.
@benGBRf
@benGBRf Год назад
Brilliant video as always from you Ant. Same old story, I wish the line was still open or at least reopen. Oh well, thanks for capturing the best of what's left Ant 👍🏻
@jessgerrard2792
@jessgerrard2792 Год назад
Absolutely fantastic Ant. Just wished me old man was still alive to watch this with me and tell me some of the history of the area as we frequently went up to Whitby, Scarborough and Ravenscar on holiday in the 70s and 80s. Sadly I think reopening the line is a non-starter, Governments are too busy wasting money on developments such as HS2. Keep up the good work mate
@mikeedwards6162
@mikeedwards6162 Год назад
An excellent video, great natural narration and superb photography
@MrKittykat111
@MrKittykat111 Год назад
Born and bred in Thorpe and Bay. Been up and down that route thousands of times. Up most of them culverts in my youth too.
@shirleylynch7529
@shirleylynch7529 Год назад
Beautiful video. Such a lot of rich greenery. Tunnels and bridges amazing. Loved your before and after shots with the music. Very apt music. Thank you Ant. Another masterpiece . Well done.
@davidcousins3508
@davidcousins3508 11 месяцев назад
I’ve walked the route Scarborough to Whitby a few times ..a combination of the Cleveland way and the old railway path ..as you said stunning scenery 👍
@yorkie2789
@yorkie2789 Год назад
Walked that section of line many years ago in another heatwave, really enjoyed those cool woodland sections I can tell you!
@michaelmiller641
@michaelmiller641 Год назад
Wow! Another fantastic video, Ant. What a beautiful bride that must have been! .I'm looking forward bit the next episode. btw the music makes it!
@michaelmiller641
@michaelmiller641 Год назад
That was meant to read "What a beautiful Ride that must have been!"
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Год назад
Thanks very much Michael I've started work on part 4 yesterday 👍
@tonyclough9844
@tonyclough9844 Год назад
They have just done a 12 mile section linking Skipton to Leeds, only wanted the track laying, and they make such a song and dance about it. Down South they have redone every station on the railways.
@aro4491
@aro4491 Год назад
This line was difficult to operate, with a reversal required at each end of the route to gain access to the stations at Scarborough and Whitby. It featured some severe (in railway terms) gradients of up to 1:39, and there were no major towns served other than those at each end. The route is not intact and has been lost in places. It's an unlikely candidate for a revival and could reduce the revenue of the NYMR which runs steam operations from Pickering to Whitby.
@iunderw2
@iunderw2 Год назад
Another great video. keep them coming
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Год назад
Cheers Bobby thank you 🙂
@regcotterill7332
@regcotterill7332 Год назад
Was looking forward to this segment and wasn't disappointed. The content quality of your work continues to impress and is equal if not better than the stuff the MSM produces these days. I thought the series of videos you did on Derwent/Ladybower was excellent but this builds on that. The drone footage is stunning. One thought that always comes to mind when I see videos like yours is of the men that built all this. The blood sweat and shear muscle power that it took to produce the bridges, cuttings, embankments and buildings. I for one appreciate their efforts. I'm staying in Larpool Hall in August so will try and retrace some of your steps.
@jamesgibson5606
@jamesgibson5606 Год назад
One of Yorkshire's beauties to behold. Absolutely stunning Vista's. Loved the video's by the way.
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Год назад
Thanks very much James. I'm pleased 🙂
@JohnnyWaterbucket
@JohnnyWaterbucket Год назад
Probably the only way it could reopen would be with private money, and lots of it. After that you would have a queue of people which would stretch to eternity waiting to get on, especially for the Ravenscar bit.
@brianmirfield5371
@brianmirfield5371 Год назад
Love that Ant can't wait for the last leg have done that a few times beautiful area and great walk
@MrKittykat111
@MrKittykat111 Год назад
I might also add, if you head up off the line where Stoupe Beck road crosses you might find the path to the 'Two Sisters'. There's a small cave just above them too, with lovely fresh water to drink! There's also a bit further over remains of a paved trackbed from a Roman quarry. Oh and loads of Bilberries!
@whitespider8523
@whitespider8523 Год назад
If ever a line should have been mothballed this is it. One of the most beautiful and intricate lines ever built but I think too much has been changed at both ends, particularly the Whitby end for it ever to return to its former glory. A real travesty, it would be an absolute gold mine in these days of choked roads.
@chrisbayly5457
@chrisbayly5457 Год назад
A wonderful trek through a lovely part of the world. Been to Whitby and Robin Hood's Bay and it should be reopened as a heritage or just a railway line route.....
@lesbendo6363
@lesbendo6363 Год назад
Thank you for sharing history. 🇨🇦
@exileinderby51
@exileinderby51 Год назад
Great video but to answer your question, my answer is that it's doubtful. Yes it should be re-opened and i for one would love it but I just can't see it happening
@railwaychristina3192
@railwaychristina3192 Год назад
Yes! Great diversionary use. ❤
@Marc_von_Hoffrichter
@Marc_von_Hoffrichter Год назад
Bloody beautiful! Imagine this as a tourist railway....it would be spectacular! Thanks Ant, another brilliant vid. Cheers cobber.
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Год назад
It really is stunning. Two more parts to come 🙂
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Год назад
BR did round trips in the summer months from Whitby to Scarborough but they never made money.
@macstyle2012
@macstyle2012 Год назад
A narrow gauge railway would be another option - like what they have done at Alston.
@bobingram6912
@bobingram6912 Год назад
Another great walk in stunning scenery. Was it an optical illusion or was that tunnel as narrow as it looked??? Nobody made any remarks about my comment in Part 1 about the heght barrier being there to deter Tesco vans, but lo and behold!!!! You can never get away from work can you😂😂😂 Looking forward to last instalment Ant👍👍👍 Good training for IOW!!
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 Год назад
Ant, could the image at 27:18 be showing the train going over Station Road? Your work on part 3 was outstanding, the drone shots, old B&W photos and the vintage 8mm film footage all came together and told a great story and presented a important part of British Steam history.
@GaryMcCullagh
@GaryMcCullagh Год назад
I believe you are correct. I have been on google maps to check the houses out, and the last house on the right of the photo is still the same then as it is now.
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 Год назад
@@GaryMcCullagh Good research, for me it was somewhat of a guess as I live about 5,300 miles away in California... lol
@macstyle2012
@macstyle2012 Год назад
Would make a good extension to the NYMR from Whitby. I think it could only ever be reopened as a heritage railway as the distance of the line, and the places it passes through would not carry enough passengers all through the year to make it work. If it went Scarborough to Middlesbrough then it may work as that would provide a good alternative connection to Newcastle.
@colinarmitage3631
@colinarmitage3631 Год назад
I remember riding up Whitby sitting behind the driver of a D.M.U. yes a lovely journey. This railway should never have been closed. What anatracion for Whtby and Scarborough for holiday makers to ride on this line
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Год назад
Unfortunately out side of the period June to September there was not enough traffic on the line.
@jamesgilbart2672
@jamesgilbart2672 Год назад
Excellent video. Sadly I think the chances of reopening this route either as a preserved or a network rail line are nil - mainly due to the amount of engineering that would be involved. However, it makes a fantastic walking/cycling trail even if the surface on it is very rough for most of its length.
@abhishekalmeida939
@abhishekalmeida939 Год назад
I would love to see this scenic line to open. An engineering masterpiece. May be we can try public and government funding by making a business case for the red tape authorities
@magsu
@magsu Год назад
Stunning photos inside the tunnel! Although it would be extremely handy for us locals to have a railway from Whitby to Scarborough again, the cinder track itself is a great asset to the area. I think the cost of reinstating the line would be prohibitive, not to mention difficult. However, I could see a narrow gauge steam line along a short section of the track being pretty successful. It would be amazing to see a fully operational steam heritage railway joining up at Whitby with NYMR though!
@eddleetham
@eddleetham Год назад
The Bure Valley Railway in Norfolk was reopened in the same situation. After closure it was converted into a footpath and cycleway, so the new railway was built with 15 inch track and locos so that it could run alongside the path. It is run on a very commercial basis and seems to be very successful.
@malcolmrichardson3881
@malcolmrichardson3881 Год назад
The scenic quality alone makes this an ideal route for reopening - albeit in stages. As a heritage railway like the nearby North York Moors Railway, there is no reason why it should not prosper. There appear to be some steepish gradients and perhaps slightly unstable rock formations, requiring some attention, but with will, determination, public support and finance, a beginning could and should, be made. From which end should a start be made?
@neelix139
@neelix139 Год назад
Greetings I can’t remember your name my name is Jeff I live in Melbourne Australia and I do enjoy your Railway archaeology and I look forward to part number four because you when you walking the old Railway formation your very informative in your explanation of things so that’s why I thoroughly enjoy your series here in Australia we got some rail trails in the state of Victoria one of 150 miles long anyway that is another discussion all the best to you late you doing I find your accent is a bit ratchet time but if you were talking to me you would probably find my Australian accent a bit strong to anyway all the best for the future yours Jeff
@jwilloughby6175
@jwilloughby6175 Год назад
Was just gonna ask where the next installment was, looking fwd to larpool viaduct, spent many a walk to that with my dad as a child, remember when it was fenced off at both ends but someone always cut a gap in railings and had to squeeze through
@kevanhubbard9673
@kevanhubbard9673 Год назад
I doubt it as it's too close to the cliffs which are eroding pretty rapidly.Most of the line still exists as track bed and the bit from Saltburn to Boulby as an actual railway although only for freight.
@StephenForster-z3m
@StephenForster-z3m Год назад
brilliant enjoying it at the moment is there going to be a part 4
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Год назад
Thank you and yes parts 4 and 5 then onto the Whitby to Loftus line
@paulaj2829
@paulaj2829 11 месяцев назад
At 17:43 I toppled off my E-bike on the left as I tried to go past a couple with a dog as I went a little to slow trying to go up this part 😂😂but no one got hurt & we had a good laugh when all was sorted out.
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration 11 месяцев назад
Its always the best way when you can see the funny side of it all. Thanlkyou for watching :)
@chrismccartney8668
@chrismccartney8668 Год назад
Alums Works had a very interesting history. And the production of alum using g urine and other chemicals around Ravenscar goes back a long way and was shipped out by boats from the beach there are lines cut into rock of seabed.. An explore would be worthwhile ?
@jamesblaydon9109
@jamesblaydon9109 Год назад
Hi thank u for Doing my town of Whitby .. have u considered doing the Darlington to barnyard castle.. north stainmore ..tebay … railway …. As ya in the area
@fill7t1
@fill7t1 Год назад
That would be some walk!...... I was thinking about this vlog today!
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Год назад
The photo of the riad bridge at Robin Hood's Bay shows the Whitby Moors Rail Tour hauled by K4 3442 The Great Marquess (in green) and K1 62005. This train was organised by the Stephenson Locomotive Society and the Manchester Locomotive Society. The train took in water at Robin Hood's Bay.
@petermarchbank7739
@petermarchbank7739 Год назад
it would be nice to see it reopened for passenger traffic as always your video are wonderful
@jamiehorsley5552
@jamiehorsley5552 Год назад
Hello ant hope you are well I have just watched your last video of the lost railway line between Scarborough and Whitby and I always enjoy your videos on the disused railway lines because I have always been interested in the old railway lines with thanks to my dad as my dad was one of the last people to travel on the Scarborough too Whitby railway line and he was also one of the last people to ride on the Hull and withersea railway line too and in my opinion the Scarborough and Whitby railway line should never have been closed and I would love to see it open again if it is possible stunning scenery and views along it's route and I would love to see it reopen again if possible thanks ant keep up the good work and I hope I can meet you in person one day and be in one of your videos cheers from Jamie
@Jimyjames73
@Jimyjames73 Год назад
Very good footage Ant - Unfortunately it will cost ££££ to re-open the line @ 14:45 Also if you go along the Monsal Trail (A Railway line that closed in 1968) it also has 2 set of Kilns 😉🚂🚂🚂
@danielholden-storey5107
@danielholden-storey5107 Год назад
Fascinating as usual but the anticipated discussion re-opening vanished into the ether, which was a pity unless it is the viewer's thoughts you were wanting.
@mikeedwards6162
@mikeedwards6162 Год назад
I hope it never reopens, it is a great walk.
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Год назад
It'll never reopen. Thanks for watching
@jontownsend8090
@jontownsend8090 Год назад
This railway would be an asset to the local economy, as well as a beautiful route. It has the potential to become very popular, just like the Settle to Carlisle, which was slated for closure years ago. I would market it as the North York moors coastal railway. Sadly in reality, there is so much profiteering and red tape in this country, it will never reopen under the current regime.
@stuart3383
@stuart3383 Год назад
Love it brilliant again
@David-tt2mt
@David-tt2mt Год назад
When so much is being sent overseas to prop up an unnecessary conflict, there would be enough to get many projects which would of benefit the home economy, but then peace is not as profitable.
@jnthnmllry
@jnthnmllry Год назад
It would be great to see the tunnel opened up at ravenscar to pass thru when walking/cycling the cinder track.
@michaelstansfield3085
@michaelstansfield3085 Год назад
That would be wonderful, but I’m afraid in this 2023 world, it would be a long toilet, akin to the awful stench of urine in the overbridge at Filey station.
@mrmyorky5634
@mrmyorky5634 12 дней назад
As much as I'd like to see every abandoned railway line rebuilt there is only so much passenger revenue available and this would have to be divided out between all the existing preserved lines. I'm sure that the enthusiasm shown initially would be encouraging but all current preserved railways are today feeling the pinch of lower revenues and increasing costs.
@josephtrueman500
@josephtrueman500 5 месяцев назад
Good it be open not with steam but with battery powered garriches or train of soon sort
@johnswift1736
@johnswift1736 Год назад
I was on the last train with my mum and sister to whitby and back to scarborough.
@thomasmann9216
@thomasmann9216 Год назад
Two questions (he says before asking two questions): 1. Why brick up the entrances to the tunnel if there are doors allowing access? 2. Is there any evidence that Robin Hood ever ventured this far north?
@timbounds7190
@timbounds7190 Год назад
You'd have thought that there would be demand for Trains along the line - even today the parallel bus service has a surprisingly frequent service! Whilst in the 60s Whitby was regarded as an obscure port miles from anywhere, these days its probably more famous & well regarded resort than its ever been! Personally I'd love to see the Malton - Pickering line reopened so that there would be a York - Whitby railway service via Malton - Pickering - NYMR-Grosmont - Whitby - but I know that's a pipe dream as reinstating the line would be very difficult in Pickering, and then there'd be mixed objectives of trying to run a proper train service alongside the NYMR's heritage services......
@robdogwalker
@robdogwalker Год назад
I do wonder if Dr Beeching was right!Seems to me that if these little lines were perhaps mothballed,and just ran in the holidays,how many cars would not be used between Scarborough and Robin Hood's Bay and on to Whitby.
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Год назад
The LNER considered all 4 routes into Whitby as uneconomic and wanted to close them. Even the original company that built this line failed to make money from it.
@bobtudbury8505
@bobtudbury8505 Год назад
of course when you say beeching you mean the labour party
@chrismccartney8668
@chrismccartney8668 Год назад
Would be a great tourist line and would improve local transport. Perhaps modern versions of diesel railcars could run the service or even the Nrw Battery locomotives?
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Год назад
This line was never a moneymaker, even when relatively few of us had cars. When BR introduced DMUs there were problems with adhesion due to sea fogs making the rails up from Whitby to greasy. Pre-WW2 the LNER was questioning the value of the line from Scarborough to Loftus but before they nade a decision WW2 started. It was faster and more a convenient to take the United bus instead of the train.
@ldb281
@ldb281 Год назад
Ive just noticed the old photos you have in the video, theres 2 locos pulling a long rake of coaches, even the later dmu is 4 or 5 coaches long. So why on earth was it closed if those trains were justified in running? What a marvellous line that would be to travel, the scenery unssen for 60 years!
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Год назад
The long passenger trains were only a feature on the line during the summer Saturdays. The rest of the time locomotive trains heading to reverse down to Whitby were limited to 2 coaches or needed a 2nd locomotive to guide it back down to Whitby Town station. As for the DMU these were used on scenic tours of the areas railways as well as service trains. But revenues outside of the summer weekends were low. Passengers went in the mode frequent buses and there was no freight once the brickworks closed.
@ldb281
@ldb281 Год назад
@@neiloflongbeck5705 thanks for that info, very interesting
@stephenharper9961
@stephenharper9961 Год назад
The part between robin hood's bay and whitby prospect hill would be by far the easiest section to reopen but i doubt there would be room for the trail and a full sized train and track so maybe a miniature railway would be better
@ldb281
@ldb281 Год назад
Imagine the engineers thinking this railway won't last , but then along comes the tourists. We have to think though with so much going on with heritage railways now, covid aftermath, lack of revenue etc etc , would it be actually worth reopening?
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