Coulson and May React to Civil War - Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 

Coulson died without caring who knew he was alive

Coulson died long before Tony died.

@@zeroskaterz92 No, Coulson didn't die. He faked his death to give the Avengers the push to fight Loki, and then went on to the Agents of Shield

@@TheSmashingLad What the fuck are you even talking about? You clearly didn't even watch Agents of SHIELD. He was fucking dead and was brought back. That's literally in Season 1.

I'm pretty sure that Coulson is the one who sends the avengers to find lokis sceptre, it ties in around season 3.

permeus2nd He was, which is why he was against them. I think he even expressed that sentiment in this episode. I'll have to go back in rewatch now lol

No they didn't

@Thanos no, they let the governments of the world control what they can and cannot do. and they reveal secret identities to the world.

@@GatlingHawk Don't think it says anything about revealing secret identities at all, there isn't much secret identity besides spidey in the mcu anyway.

@@TobiNano nope, the UN has to release all files publicly irl. even if they were hidden, any super villain baddy could easily get past UN gameboy level security to learn about their opponents.

because shield is not avengers? sokovia accords is only for avengers not for agents of shit

Nazeem Acords aren't only for the Avengers, Yo-Yo, Quake, and The Patriot had to register

In my point of view, The Accords for the Avengers are a waste.

Dr.Zaptor In a deleted scene Natasha Romanoff said to T'Challa because he revealed himself to the world he falls into the Accord jurisdiction even though he isn't an Avenger. Most of the Inhumans who don't live in the moon are also part of the Accords.

The "Cloud District" Acoords

@Sean O Deli the Colson now is a robot

@Sean O Deli He’s a Life Model Decoy

This is cannon. You can’t change my mind.

@@DeathByLego x2

@Cao ni ma Agents of Shield spoilers ahead... Yes, the original Coulson died but they made a Chronicom LMD with the same memorys and personality than the original Coulson.

I think they are betting that there is a large swath of the movie crowd who don't want to watch the series. I was one of those people and worried that if I didn't watch SHIELD I would be missing key information. Now that I've watched SHIELD and Cloak & Dagger, yeah, I would like to see more tie-ins as well. I'm wondering how this will play out with F&WS.

He came back for Captain Marvel.

@@onlyone23km yes but he came back as a younger version. Imagine if he and May or Sky, or Mack shows up. They've created LMD in the world, they've created framework etc. All which would be great mentions in the larger MCU

The ABC and Netlfix shows aren't canon tho.

@@23bitchris60 That’s never been definitively stated though? At least not to my knowledge

Yeah it’s kind messed up how the guy who made the avengers the avengers (avenging Coulson’s death) never shows up to the funeral of Tony Stark an avenger who saved the universe. But it would be pretty messy for movie only fans who didn’t watch agents of shield.

Because he isn’t in the MCU proper. AOS isn’t canon

@@omarlopez3914 Why not?

@@mrg466 I think Wandavision basically killed off any canonicity of AoS with the Dark Hold looking different and being in the wrong place.

@@smartstuf1026 so there was a scene that was changed in Age of Ultron...the original script had Fury say Coulson's name as the one to thank...then he would say "ill fill in the blanks later!" Feige rejected that when he heard it was going to be aired like that and asked Jed to change the script to not include his name.

Also how the movies tie in with the Shows using the WHiH Newsfront channel in RU-vid. And some references in the movie side to the TV series

But not the movies at the moment.

the ant man and the wasp tried to reference the truth serum ruse in agents of shield season 1.... they are preparing to see if AoS will have an impact in the movies since coulson will come back in captain marvel.

I think the truth serum thing was more coincidence than anything

Sadly that ended with the introduction of inhumans. One would think this would be mentioned in the movies if that happened in the same universe.

Ormi Ader I feel sorry for Tony who lost good friends becomes of contact he started. And lost Steve after his trial killed by Hydra Agent in comics.

Ann-Mari Hillestad Your comment is so painful to read.

Sorry, but Tony so in a vison that Avengers dies even Cap. its rumors in Infinity War that Avengers dies.

Although they sorta follow one of the old captain America movies by having cap get together with granddaughter of his past love

I know right? I re-read her comment a few times and my brain hurt more and more. I can't really work out what she said at all.

Well thats a good recommendation i just finished AoS

The algorithm, working as intended. Also on the list: Marble Races, two dozen things Marvel, and watch this guy build a shed in the woods with a rock!

You and I are the only ones that know in this comment thread.....you know what this means, right? We need to get out of the Framework!

Have You Heard by The Moody Blues starts to play... We're screwed.

Youtryagain Youbitch HOLY MOTHER OF GOD. I praise this show for making it look like all four seasons were written at the same time, because the continuity in it is insanely smart. But this is too far!

TheVictorserna88 when aida puts them in that network to be human again right?

Youtryagain Youbitch Ok, I've recently also realized that Malick is one of those councilmen Nick Fury talked to in The Avengers. Which not only makes perfect sense but also so subtle I didn't notice. See? Continuity perfection.

9/30 Studios actually disney never makes marvel tv shows or movies -facepalms-

Defientboss941 they are in charge but yeah, they don’t make em

IP Films yeah, if they mad the movies, TV shows, & Netflix shows, they'd be all happy go lucky for 2 year olds & it would have Mickey, Donald, & Goofy talking to them.

It was abc

@@HitByAPlane IIRC ABC is owned by Disney, so at some point everything in Agents of Shield has to be approved by Disney, and so far they have done well with that power.

Satoshi Katsumoto you know sometimes.."government logic" and "public /mass stupidity logic" for something like over insecure feelings. It happens in our real life too. This fiction take the sarcastic ironically route to slap people face.

From what I remember in the aftermath of the civil war arc in the comics, Norman Osborne uses the Registration Act as a political tool to become president. So yeah Cap was right in the end.

Satoshi Katsumoto honestly who in the MCU avengers has an identity that they need to be kept secret Stark flat out told everybody, Cpt A doesn’t really have anyone and could destroy anyone who wanted to start a fight, Bruce banner is probably know to the public to be the hulk, ETC Spider-Man is the only one that needs his identity to be kept secret

You got that so wrong. First of all, Osborn doesn't run for president. Secondly, he doesn't even manage to get his hands on the Registration Act files. Tony deleted them because he knew Osborn was going to use them for nefarious purposes. Tony supported Registration because of something like that. He put himself to the service of registration to prevent dirty politicians from misusing it. Osborn didn't get to exploit the Registration Act because Tony was there to make sure it wasn't misused in the first place. He was right. Also, Registration didn't entail that people revealed their identities to the public. The only person to know the identities of the people that got registered was the person in charge.

daour But the last time someone had that kind of information at their fingertips it turned out to be HYDRA, as far as the MCU was concerned. They live in a world where someone’s SAT scores could make or break their being on the HYDRA Hit List. A world where the Sorcerer Supreme was a threat to HYDRA long before he even fathomed magic was real. A world where the people doing this... were masquerading as an organization dedicated to protecting the world. Just imagine if “possibility of having metahuman powers/descendants with metahuman powers that can be used against us” was thrown into the mix. No wonder Cap was so hesitant.

Wait how

@@lemonferret what is framework

@@lemonferret If we mention that then Stark saying "endgame" can almost be thrown away as the word was used in A.O.S. several times before Tony said it.

@@drtirthadas Watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Imagine Dragons : That's cute

@@raflyrivaldi4555 imagine dragons : whatever it takes is only from 2017

Daredevil: hello there

@@y2123-l8c General Murdock!

They are still in universe, they just didn't have Marvel's permission to address any of those events

Yeah, like Season 1 with the whole Hydra infiltration thing after Winter Soldier came out

I think that’s because after the whole tone travel arch, they created an alternate timeline. I think at the end of the last season they returned to the main MCU continuity (just a theory).

@Priyank Bhandari Marvel Studios and ABC have quite a strange love-hate relationship

@Priyank Bhandari Well, we did see Coulson's helicarrier in Age of Ultron, Thanos name drop in S5, Quantum Realm in S7, and let's not forget entire S1 basically revolves around the consequences of Avengers, Thor TDW and Winter Soldier, of course I would love more but, I enjoyed the ones we got

*screwed the universe

well now nobody cares about accords... i just can imagine in endgame scene"avengers assembled"and suddlenly COL cross appears and say( EVERYBODY FREEZE,,ALL OF YOU ARE under arrest for violate sokovia accords")

@@FULANODETAL Including Thanos lol

@@legosnek the same case as in the incredibles..us banned heroes and supervillains at the same time

They didn't though. If the team was fragile enough to be broken over them then the accords merely sped up the inevitable.

I hate how over the fence they are about it. They screwed the plot in the last seasons then patched it up saying "it's not in the MCU".

They had to cuz of the disney plus tv shows.

i like to think at the end of season 5 is when it's not the main MCU timeline.

@@lucanovellino1010 yeah all other series except Disney+ are in different timeline

They didn’t really say anything about these shows

The Dragon Era Thor is happy to see him but also low-key unimpressed, since it keeps happening with Loki constantly.

the problem with this scenario is that marvel wants to actually kill someone in infinity war, like permanently, and bringing coulson in at this time would seriously undermine that. no one would take it seriously.

I only watched all the MCU movies. How is Coulson still alive?

Brent Pham In the pilot episode, when Coulson was asked how he survived, he talked about going to Tahiti, saying “It’s a magical place.” Well that “magical place” was never real. This episode revealed that Coulson really died in The Avengers. He was dead for several days. So said the doctor Coulson tracked down, based on his brief memories of the time. When he asks how it’s possible to come back to life after being dead for several days, the doctor said “Director Fury moved heaven and earth. He had a team of scientists working around the clock, using procedures that no good doctor would ever allow.” So, basically, Nick Fury became Dr. Frankenstein.

specifically, it's possible to revive the dead using kree technology. the agents of shield destroyed the last of the tech available in the present day, but this season they've traveled to a future where the earth has been conquered by the kree, and that same technology has been used again.

ooh man i love that

#TeamIronMan

@@kevindefrancesco75 Coulson would be in #TeamCap so...

Team cap

AND THE AVENGERS.

David McLean Someone else who agrees. This was the stupidest thing to ever happen. Only Agents of Shield felt the ramifications of it and nothing else........like no mentions in any of the other shows

David McLean damm right! The government a bunch of dumbasses the world need the avengers and captain america and iron man and S.H.I.E.L.D and all the heroes to protect the people and earth.

jason Grady PHStiger'61 they destroyed like half the cities. They tried to save people but ended up killing like half of them. They weren’t need for everything.

Andrew Carrillo To be fair, Avengers alien invasion was unavoidable, Avengers 2 was Starks fault, Civil Disagreement was a waste of a movie before Infinity War because nothing of substance happened. At least the Agents of Shield actually gave a damn about the bigger picture

Karl Hurd oh the invasion was alright. But hulk went through buildings fucking killing people.

zemo is the new villain for the falcon and winter soldier show though so there is still potential

@@marcthomas7316 I'm cool with that, but at the same time, he would have been a better villain for SHIELD, but they stayed from the spy fiction that worked so well.

Anti-accords.

We still don't know

Its back. Wanda was in violation of the accords in wandavision. And the darkhold here. Aw and clark greg and chloe rumored to be coming back in secret invasion. Good times

@youcef bouzidi yea i just meant in the ep it mentions they use her stealing it as a violation. Thats why sword was there in addition to the town thing. But yea it wasnt her but im sure that kidnapping a town is in direct violation of the same accords

Spidey didn't sign them tho did he?

@@aajgm2916 Hes a minor recruited by Stark to enforce them.

Cause I feel the adrenaline in my veins....

They are canon

Bruh who said they ain't canon?

@@legallyillegal2314 The head of the MCU apparently.

@@PitZagufull No, he didn't. AoS and Agent Carter are definetly canon. Defenders are debateble but until they declare it non-canon it's still canon.

Kenan, well the netflix shows were alluded to in aos.

Wish that happen and they appear on the big screen for the crossover. Fighting thanos and his army but, didn't they had to change the story. After three seasons after ghost rider, lmd, agents of hydra. S5, 6 and 7 ended up with time travel to the future and back in time. But change the past alternate timelines they were in right now.

admittedly, it bothers me on how many people think the shows aren't mcu.

Season 6 hardly had nothing to do with the MCU, and season 7 only has a few references.

@@SamvedIyer So? So a movie has to reference other stuff in order to be considered mcu even though the creators have already said it takes place in the mcu? What kinda logic is that?

@@IP_Films01 If I am not mistaken, the writers themselves said that season 6 onward the show was distanced from the MCU.

@@SamvedIyer it is in the MCU, not rocket science

Yea not anymore

David Semel 😂😂😂

They are not her fucking children...

Lawrence Stevens All they have is the newspaper articles showing the Avengers alien battle and Hulk vs Abomination😂and whatever that was at the start of Luke Cage with the guy referencing the Avengers

Los, Jessica jones season 3 mentions the raft and trish gets sent there in the finale. Mary in iron fist season 2 mentions sokovia.

Daredevil mentions the New York battle tho, Jessica Jones mentions the Avengers, Luke Cage mentions Hulk vs Abomination, Iron Fist mentions sokovia

Evil skovvra accords are the worst idea.

same!

Time to let your anger flow, bruh.

Mercutio Escalus You asking so much

Mercutio Escalus Jarvis from Agent Carter is in Endgame

Well you must be pissed then

Chris Atherton the Accords won't mean a thing then

That is my belief, they’re in a timeline where thanos lost pretty fast and never snapped. Otherwise it’s a massive missed opportunity to not have season 6 set during the blip and have the agents or shield actually show that 5 year period where half the universe is gone, or at least have it set after endgame with a flashback story that takes place during the blip. Would’ve been really cool

The show ended before infinity war was premiered.

After

+Bruce Snow But I thought agent Coulson died in Avengers 1

Ma Jimmy he was kind of resurrected

+Bruce Snow So will he return in avengers 3?

Ma Jimmy that's not clear yet. Feige said that TV characters would one day or another meet up with film ones, but they should find a right scenario for this.

Technically, the first 4 seasons are canon, 5-7 are in a separate universe

Because even though it references the movies, a lot of evidence also suggest it's not canon. Like how they straight up avoided the Thanos Snap incident (which is a universal thing)

@@musyrifo but it is.

you have a lot of Agents of SHIELD to catch up with, like seven seasons.

@@chandrachud oh really then I am good don't have soo much free time great if he is back

He wasn't necessarily kept dead through the movies he just was doing other things.

No they couldn't. Let pure universal energy run through your veins and see who will bring you back. Way too much of a liability

That's defying the laws of nature and it will bite their ass back in the future. That's pretty much what happened to Coulson. He was brought back and Ghost Rider corrected it.

Pretty sure that the one destroyed was the only one. It was a really secret operation, and a lot of high level operatives were against it. It would be weird for there to be more.

They would need kree blood and where could they find another kree in earth? And it has side effects

i wish Tony had one of his gadgets named P.H.I.L

General Mehk you should, the show gets goooood :)

Please do, more than worth it.

Yes season 3 was beast, season 4 was gutwrenchingly good, season 5 was heartbreakingly epic.

Well couldn't it be her husbands siblings, if he had any.

+Amy Shepherd if it was her husband's siblings kids, then the last name wouldn't be Carter, it's highly unlikely that her husband's siblings just happen to got the last name Carter too, that's too coincidental, and if she was adopted, then just say so. Marvel has been quiet about the husband and Sharon's connection so clearly it's not that simple

Isn't Peggy her great aunt?

BetaArtemis you answerd your own question at the end of your comment lol

Did you watch Agent Carter? The season finale of season 2 seemed to imply that her brother was secretly alive which means he lived to have children and died much later but before Peggy.

Yea, this show came out in like 2013, we're waiting on season 7 now

Don't quit watching after season 1. It gets better

Wasn’t created by marvel studios so not an MCU show. Wandavision is the first MCU show

@@douglaskelley4486 is it worth watching? 😅

@@JaySewani that’s for you to figure out

Ghost rider would one shot a lot of them

By 110% ignoring it..😅

The Infinity war and Endgame crew was on a complete secret basis on the plot and didn't inform the Agents of SHIELD crew of the details, and due to their release time Agents of SHIELD had to film an entire season (and maybe the next (sadly) last season) without knowing the plots. However, next season may have some sort of reference to it or feature it.

@@WhiteTiger93 note: major emphasize on MAYBE. I'm already accepting the fact that series and movie MCU are not 100% related (maybe different perception of time). As long as the series and the movie are good, i'll be there watching the hell out of 'em.

After season 5's time travel plot -by Endgame's logic- they are now in an alternate universe to the MCU. And if the leaks are true -spoilers- they are going to return to main MCU timeline in season 7.

I wish they never ignored it. It would've made the show better but I think they would've struggled making season 7 and 6

cyclopstb it is 50-50 one half of the worlds population think the avengers need to be reigned in and controlled by the united nations The other half think that despite the casualties the avengers have saved lives on numerous occasions and that by not signing it shows that Caps Avengers dont' want to be the U.N lapdogs.

I think they were referring to the big airport battle.

Until they get attacked. It's not so much what you do but how you do it. He went behind their backs and brought the govt. rep in. No real discussion.

I watched AofS from S1-S7 and since S3 I can't believe that's canon to the MCU

@@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu s5 references thanos, s7 references quantum realm from antman

3x20

Cuz you're too busy watching a 'play' of yourself while cosplaying as Odin to notice.

Beerbottles123 "oh shit!"

Tahititi is a magical place.

The punisher is not enhanced.

@@ayu8994 he deals with a lot damage.use Automatic guns.and is a methodic tacticsl military planning

Yes but it's a waste of resources for a anti hero that barely poses a threat to the world.

madd ace It gets good at around ep 18, and each season gets beter and beter

right around the time season 1 ends, with a huge twist that I personally didn't see coming, the show gets so good and the seasons just keep getting better and better. Season 3 has some amazing episodes, and season 4 is just phenomenal all the way through!!! Great actors and character development also appear, which is the shows strongest aspect! So if you like really fleshed out and amazing character development, its an amazing show, but plot wise it might lack a little for some people. I have always enjoyed the show, from episode 1 off, so to me its a great show!!!

One of the best shows on modern television

Dude, this show ended up becoming the best superhero show of all time. It's even Marvel's highest rated on Rotten Tomatoes

Hell yeah, real good.

Agent Prime netflix shows has higher budget then aos and aos has ten times less budget than the movies. Its pretty normal af

aos has a higher budget than netflix lol

Actually I'm glad that show got canned. The acting was poor, as was the plot. Agent Carter should have kept going IMO.

@@chimaican01 yeah Agent Carter was good, should have continued, especially with the Thompon cliffhanger in S2 finale.

They would've appear on infinity war and the endgame fight against thanos and his army.

That's what I thought too!

Who the hell is Bucky?

@@ГригорийГ-ч4н Bucky aka the Winter Soldier

@@React2Quick so you don't understand this reference, do you?)

I mean.... of course it was