My husband Tommy is from Fermanagh, and he says that this pandering to naked sectarianism will inevitably lead to the UK becoming a place of fear and loathing.
"To not be white British you can still do amasing things ... etc." Correction if you are white and British you are expected to put up with being shunned in various job applications, you must accept being called out as racist or at the very least to be accused of unconscious bias. And diversity is strength????
As a British jew who was verbally and physically attacked during the second Lebanon War by Arab Muslims in london i definitely would say there is a risk to Jewish people in London and people are right to exercise caution.
All we have to ask ourselves is that without muslims would this country be more secure. The answer is an unequivocal yes. Therefore all muslim immigration should be banned and mosques torn down. We did the same for over 150 years after one terrorist attempt by Guy Faulkes.
In your own indigenous country, muslims immigrate give Orders,uk better wake up get your country, Religion culture Tradition back, forget they call you far right
Can you imagine if any council cancelled Ramadan? This is ridiculous to cancel an important Jewish celebration! Why don't they cancel Christmas while they are at it because many people are on the side of Israel. Say it loud and clear that this country will not tolerate anybody forcing their views on us and deportations WILL happen.
@josephbernardfernandez6286 Britain has a very focused Police force. Anyone supporting England or any notion of that, would find themselves in court. The charge would be race hate, and no one wants that.... so we watch the destruction of our constitution... we are peace lovers at heart.
Terrorism rules! Where there are islamic communities terror will rule! Islam is a death ideology , It is not about peace and freedom and Palestinian state, because Palestinians rejected the two state solution along modern history!
@@twistedsister2568 You really do need to pull your head out of your arse and wake up and have a good look around you. Failing that... enjoy your subservience, you deserve it!
The worrying thing is that the /government/law is taking little or no action against extremists and these so called pro Palestinian protests are a form of extremism.
I doubt there would be an issue. Who will do what? The same people will allow it go ahead because they do not want community tensions or trouble of any kind. The same people will also say they need to cancel a Jewish festival for the same reasons. Its a farce.
Why is it that when Jews march it is peaceful and we see Israeli flags as well as many British flags but when protests for Palestinians occur (which is many times more than the Israeli ones) we not only don't see British flags but you can get beaten if you carry one. I don't know about you but it tells me all I need to know about who is a true citizen and the ones that are Muslims first. This by the way is true for the entire western world.
...because Britain has given in. It thinks it has to bend over and take a beating. I wonder what the guilty conscience is. I really do. Pathetic behaviour.
Here is the problem, there are over 30+ J*wish charities that's soul purpure is to bring in the 3rd world to the West that includes people from the Middle East.
Not really, they’ve been massacred in the past and thrown out. They were allowed back in by Cromwell for their finances acumen, but antisemitism, despite their positive contributions to Britain, has always bubbled below the surface.
Correction, centuries ago in York and London, the Jews were founded up PL as ced in a church and burned alive. Those surviving were immediately banished from Britain, then France,Italy for "Usery". They went to N.Africa until the Ottomans took over Spain,when they then took up residence. It wasn't.until the "South Sea Bubble" financial disaster in London.in the 1700 s that they returned as financial loan givers, then created the City of London,which like Washington D. C. And the Vatican are separate states within a state
@@canuck3169they literally murdered Jesus Christ and deny the Second Testament, whilst pushing disgusting practices on everyone else. Who would tolerate that?
@@canuck3169 perhaps back then, but in the past century especially post-war, Britain has been a safe haven for Jews. Antisemitism has only come from the far left, neo-Nazis or radical Islamists. No one else has a problem with them.
Muslims are spreading out from east London. In 10 years havering Muslims have increased 3 fold Jewish numbers have stayed the same. Pressure of numbers by insidious threatening behaviour. We need QUALITY in the UK not quantity
@Jin-dc7gl Don't underestimate the traitor MPs and establishment. The only way forward is to remove the vote from muslims, leave the ECHR, and leave the UN, who promotes Islam. They say Islam is the most persecuted religion, which is a total lie. Christianity is the most persecuted religion. Our politicians find it more important to look good on the world stage than doing what is good for their people.
I'm more worried about protecting my own family thanks , after what has been done to our nation already in the uk and who pushed it on us I'll worry about my own
@@cazrealist1 Over 30+ J*wish charities that's sole purpose is to bring in the 3rd world to the West, that includes people from the Middle East, Pakistan etc.
When you take a pause from praying, you will find that Canadians already need protection against the threat from their 'famously woke' government.., pray for Canadians to adopt the 'spirit' of the American 2nd Amendment...
Councils through out England have already given up on showing armed forces day, they tried it with Christmas ,with trying to call it holiday period, but English born people wasn't having none of it, Muslims and their council friends need to realise the majority of people living in England are white English people with Christian values that needs to be respected ,and tolerated
Do not fear! Jesus says this many times over! A rabbi who lost his head in oct 7th is a great example. When Hamas told him to put his head down, he refused and held his head high and said "this is the only way you will take my head" with the same calm and dignity we need to be prepared to do the same! Have no fear of death! What is the worse that can happen? The best thing ever! To be with Jesus for all of eternity! ❤
It is your own country dont give a sh to foregn THUGS from u know where, Push back Hard. Your british govt is a sissy so you the citizen have to take back your country's.
I'd like to see what would happen if all of a sudden Ramadan wasn't allowed to take place, or any of those festivities. This guy lives on another planet. Britain is becoming one of the most intolerant places in the world, all due to uncontrolled mass migration from cultures that have nothing to do with British values. Would any politician ever stop this madness before it's too late and we become a Caliphate?
Starving yourself during the hours of daylight is hardly what one could describe as a festivity and getting out of bed to eat before daylight certainly not a pleasure. Ramadan in the UK or in a Paris air conditioned Office is a relative "Doddle" compared to Countries that are extremely hot and you can't even take water before sunset.
You say "cultures" but we all know what culture specifically that is. You only have to look at the pro-Palestine marches in London and other cities to see that.
We must continue to have religious tolerance in our country. Havering Council is making a wrong decision. Goverment has never paid attention to protests, but when the law is being broken, it is the responsibilty of the Police to arrest and charge the persons. As the weeks have gone by, there has been more and more disturbance. When there is no consequences for bad actions, it will worsen.
@@CSBourne that's how they think... our way or no way. No thanks. Treat others as you want to be treated aka the golden rule. If your opposition doesn't accept this catergorical imperative, then by all means eject them! Mutuality has to apply or society breaks down. These people enforcing their beliefs and disrupting our way of being, which come from outside our nation, its traditions, values, virtues and make up of its very civility. They need to be deported for as soon as possible. Our Police and their pandering need to stop this climate of blind compliance and search within what is right and just. This is why the pandemic was pushed and the masses fell for it hook, line and sinker. To wear the mask of dumb obedience! Why are people so afraid of critical thinking. If you give up freedom for a sense of security you deserve neither!
Don't cancel your usual activities. When you give in to fear and refrain from usual undertakings, terrorists become successful. The goal of terrorism is to instill fear among people, unable to move freely and engage in normalcy. True grit means trusting in the conduct of your business, BUT verify..
The Jews still value their life. The police have failed to show that they can control islamists mob mentality and they're using violence. Even one Jew senior was hit on his head till he fell and died in another place which shows what they're willing to do. These people aren't right in their head.
Bet you they wont be cancelling ramadan or any muslim celebrations. The same people protesting would wreak the place. Eventually only the muslims will be allowed celebrate anything.
Just like in ALL Islamic countries..!!...In Belgium they're demanding separate schools..separate public transport..separate housing..Crosses to be removed from Christian Churches near where their kids go to school..and MORE..!!...Beware Britain..!!!!
They are weak, years of backbone filleting by TV and MSM 24/7/365, the bread and circuses, the 'entitlement' mindset, the woke cult tyranny, the 'trans' cult tyranny, the lunatic left white country, white people hatred, the kow-towing to gimmegrants over the needs of the indigenous British people, all these things and more have drained the strength and character from the country, so now all we have are filleted wet fish in authority frightened of their own shadows who bow to their new masters.
Well put Michelle Dewberry. The half Iranian man should jog on... Look at him..........he's a man and can defend himself, but many can't or freeze. Cough, ahem, you can't talk sense to senseless people. Have they also cancelled islamist celebrations? God bless Israel ❤ Stay strong beautiful people. Shalom ❤
These people need to stop their selfish self absorbtion, stop cancelling or trying to put a stop to others culture just because its not their way. Its fascism by victim minded unempathetic narcissists. Its a very unhealthy mindset now being made popular amongst the youths. As they say a little amount of knowledge is a dangerous thing. They can only accept their own opinions and have stopped learning about life and the mind. Needs addressing.
The logical link is Islam, Peter. Muslims will automatically take the side of other Muslims, it is part of their faith. It is the reason why councils with high muslim populations were flying Palastinian flags before anything even kicked off.
Weird thing is they are always upset about Israel and Palestine, but never about Yemen, where 400.000 people died because of fellow muslims, from which 200.000 children. But nobody cares, same with Syria or Somalia. I have never seen a protest for these peoples/nations, where many 100.000's were slaughtered.
Almost correct. They take a side when it's muslims in conflict with westerners, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs or specifically Jews. When it's muslims slaughtering different flavours of muslims it's crickets. Every time.
The Jews should not have to leave this country. Their march was peaceful and they cause no problems. Does this mean that terrorists/ extremists can push people that are welcome here out and does this mean Christians could be next ? How many that are causing problems have come here illegally? Don’t know if the UK is too soft or scared of foreign terrorists. I am not Jewish or religious but with what is going on I am afraid for myself and country.
I see what you mean . What he has done here is draw in his concerns of the psychotic effects of cannabis of some people & some of the terrorist attacks have been carried out by men who have been heavy cannabis users . So it's a fair enough point but not really helpful to this debate . I would also argue that all terrorists as psychotic -whether they smoke cannabis or not .
The police weren't very tolerant towards tommy Robinson the other day when they pepper sprayed him whilst in handcuffs. Talk about double standards. And a massive overreaction. The rule of law doesn't seem to apply to a certain community in this country .
Look at the remembrance day poppy distributors who were attacked in the street.. and the war memorials in London that were de faced by Palestinians acting with impunity and the police stand watch and do nothing.. twenty thirty years ago there was still a large majority of ex world war two and a few world war one veterans..this would never of happened.. cart blanch is now the order of the day..given by a weak woke government supported by big business and a younger generation so feeble and directly at odds with British culture and what it stands for... why throw away your history and heritage over multiculturalism... I know which one I'd rather keep and defend.. 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Christmas wasn't cancelled during the Blitz when thousands were being killed, yet traditional celebrations are being cancelled because of the threat of a terrorist incident
You know what I find extraordinary. That a conversation like this can take place in my country. I can't wait for India and Pakistan to resume their " unpleasantness ". I wonder how that will play out on the streets of London?
Anyone noticed what just happened in dublin,jewish people have every right to be scared just look at history.The problem is Muslim's want to change the country not indengious people
It's disgusting!!! You can't cancel a religious practice. It's absolute insanity that any country doesnt expect Jewish people to feel threatened and nervous. My Jewish sisters and brother's, we stand with and behind you 🇮🇱🇿🇦
If We Can't Celebrate Christmas Or Hanukkah, This Year I Can Only Say, HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND HAPPY HANUKKAH TO ALL, LOVE THE CAROLS, LOVE THE TREE AND LOVE CHRISTMAS. ☃️🎄
The fears of minorities are not founded when leveled against the majority white british population, their fears are founded against other minorities within our country. Yet, we are told it is the white british natives who must change everything to accomodate every other minority.
It's bonkers that this guy is really claiming that its ok to intimidate an entire race of people as long as you, just barely, stay within the confines of the law. If it was his community I wonder if he would feel the same
Sick of these debates that constantly bring up "free speech". There isnt free speech in Europe unless its the kind of free speech which is against the indigiounous.
So Jewish people cannot celebrate their festivities yet during Easter holidays. London had lights across Oxford street saying “happy Eid” and Muslim shouting calls of prayers near St Paul’s cathedral and Tower of London. I’m a ✝️ and I’m disgusted with our police, government and media for not addressing the real issue because they are scared of being called racist.
The point about it not being organised like the IRA is valid. However when a group holds the same ideology and is prepared to act on it it doesn't have to be organised like the IRA, and that is the point. It allows behaviour to occur that wouldn't be if it happened under the banner of a recognised, organised group. It also means the authorities can only act against the individual and not the group. There is always an excuse for the individual. We are on a slippery slope of authorities backing away from issues because it is easier so the group that is prepared to agitate and shout the loudest will win.
They are organised by the hive mindset, once you have a mob under the control of the handlers, the mob has no thoughts, they are zombies awaiting instructions. A mob is a fearful and dangerous thing to behold.
I think Peter Hitchins is losing it! And the Novara dude says' i'm from a minority ( Iranian) and i have no fear, well yeah! And all of the Asians apparently don't share his views about the UK!
Peter is a peculiar chap who's always pessimistic and links all bad behaviour to drug use. He also tends to mumble a lot and doesn't look people in the eye when he's talking. His brother was head and shoulders above him in these kinds of debates. The Bastani bloke is intelligent but unfortunately, another misguided lefty who sees everything through his own warped ideology.
In the interests of equality then they surely must cancel all religious celebrations. If they once again the authorities take sides, the people I am sorry to say must take it upon themselves to openly practice their religious beliefs, nobody should be denied their beliefs. I am a Christian and am saddened to see christmas and my own traditions slowly being diminished to appeas others. Where's king Charlie so called defender of the faiths , who's he defending right now?
No mention of the 7/7 bombings in London 2005 as a direct result of British involvement in the so called " War on Terror " from a group within the UK regardless of origins. The UK is directly involved in the support of Israel , we have Royal Navy ships in the Med and Persian Gulf but the difference here we have seen the extreme left and activists Hizb utTharir taking to the streets in a show of supremacy in the capital plus millions more migrants of unknown origin , many of which have simply gone missing AND our activities in Afghanistan and Syria just to mention those 2 , for which we have been promised retaliation by the Taliban and ISIS REGARDLESS of whether WE consider ourselves the most tolerant nation in which to live , its our actions overseas in which we are judged by other cultures .To say that we are not expecting a proportional increase in the likelyhood of escalated terrorist response is pretty naiive to say the least , particularly after UK security have announced that known terrorists have entered the country weeks ago which are still at large . These are circumstances way different to what was evident prior to 7/7 . We should carry on regardless as we have always done and deal with any extremist activities as and when they arise regardless even if our security forces are unable to cope . This has always been the British way .
I wasn't sure from your comment what your position was about a number of events you mentioned. My position is that 7/7 arose because the government, against the wishes of the population, had allowed in as migrants vast numbers of muslims who did not have to have allegiance to the country and culture they were joining. As to US and British involvement in the "War on Terror", that arose mainly through 911, an attack on a NATO Ally of the UK and the agreement to assist an attacked ally. Of course, actions have consequences, but would you have suggested not routing out terrorist training camps in Saddam Hussein's Iraq, especially after he had previously invaded Kuwait and part of Saudi Arabia? Imagine the affect on the oil price and industries and economies in the West, as well as the rights or wrongs of the situation. We had previously had an oil embargo forced on us by the Arabs in the early 1970s that had forced the UK to have a 3-day week. Lefties complain about economic hardship, then want to stop us defending our friends and interests, plus they want mass immigration of people who don't integrate nor contribute. Don't get me wrong, I don't think all sects and nationalities of muslim are the same. However, if you look at the history of some muslim countries in the Mediterranean and West Asia in the last 125 years, you'll see genocide by the Turks, intolerance and oppression of minority religions in most of North Africa and West Asia, and gradual Islamic terrorism in Europe - I cite Al-Qaedah, Islamic State and Hamas and associated barbarians. Some of this is due to the changed fortunes of muslim countries in the Arabian Gulf and the Islamic Revolution in Iran. They think they are stronger now, so they try it on.
@@johnwoods7650 No my position is to continue as we have always done whether it is our response to the Ottomans for the genocides of the Armenian, Assyrian or ethnic Greeks during the Great War , the 1929 massacre , the ethnic cleansing of the Jews by the Hashemites from Judea Samaria post 1948 , our response to the Jordanian after they put down their fellow Palestinian Muslims in the same region during the Black September uprising in 1970 etc., simply because its the right thing to do for the security of the region (if not our own ) if only for the short term which is better than no term at all . My point was that the 2 guests did not see the greater threat as a result of all the very recent actions by the UK overseas and the very different events and increased levels of activism that are playing out on our streets now to those prior to the backlash in 2005 . I can now see the far left extremist " crazies" among the disaffected groups outside the Religion of Peace escalating the violence and danger to public safety in the name of the " Palestinian " people being added to this already volatile mixture and it is up to the British people to respond to this if our security forces are incapable or now unwilling ( as it would seem to many ) to do so .
I've always said that. He's constantly pessimistic and links all bad behaviour to drugs which is a bit daft imo. There are other motivations and reasons why people commit atrocities.
And yet GB is still regularly dismissed as “far-right.” Actually, I think it’s good that they have such characters on as regulars. Even though they often annoy me!
@@kevinmcfarlane2752 same, I just wish they'd have someone better to argue the right-wing point of view against them rather than Peter Hitchins, whom I'm not a fan of. Alex Deane would have presented a much better argument imo.
Aaron Bastani is no holds barred left wing. Peter Hitchens is anything but, but I've seen the pair of them have a really civil discussion, exchange of views on a number of occasions, and always worth listening to. GB news puts the Beeb to shame. Nice input from Michelle as well. Thank you all.
Stay Safe this year if your planning on visiting any Christmas markets . Stay off the pavements where possible , and stay behind the safety barriers. Cars and Wagons have a bad habit of mounting the Kurds this time of year.
We shud ALL be allowed to have pride in our country and be able to fly OUR Union flag without getting shit from terrorists. If u make this country ur home u ABIDE by THIS countrys laws and not make up ur own......be glad u have been welcomed here.
So bizarre that when it comes to Jews, we say it’s ok to abuse them because it’s legal, and laws aren’t broken. We don’t treat other groups that way. It’s probably legal to chant “N-words go home”, but I hope we’d find a way to clamp down on any group of thousands who chanted that. Why can’t Jews have the same consideration as everyone else?
I grew up in Tower Hamlets. In the 80s as a young teen i was harassed DAILY! Old men coming out if the mosques trying to buy me as a prostitute and gangs of youths threatening violence and r..pe. by aged 14 i was breaking noses of old men and youths. It changed me as a person. I was quiet shy placid to being temperamental aggressive and defensive. Am not a racist. I felt sorry for my friends, girls brought up in islam. Never allowed to have any form of childhood. Tower hamlets taught me strength that I didnt know I had. I have little to no tolerance for nasty BS from muslims or anyone else. God bless anyone who had to grow up in that scum area that it has become. I used to feel sorry for them in the 70s when they were being attacked, their homes attacked etc and hear all the skinheads chanting in the streets looking to wage war against them. We never had the same problems with africans, jews, vietnamese, chinese or caribbean people coming to the east end. Its these allah nutjobs that are the problem and when you read the quran and hadiths you understand that this will never stop unless they are all booted out of the UK
@@-j308 The staff have to follow the housing lettings policy. You cant just let to whoever you want. The same goes for all the allocation of Council and Housing property in the entire UK. We couldn't talk about what we really thought about it all at work we had to talk about it outside and make sure we were not overheard. Some of us (white ethnic Brits) wouldn't dare voice our opnions we would have been sacked immediately. We had to be so careful about what we said in work it was like walking on eggshells all the time. The tenants could accuse us of racism and they would be believed even if we had never said a word. That is why I always took a Bangladeshi colleague with me on all housing application interviews. I remember one year before Ramadan started that we non Muslims were told to eat outside our office which was ridiculous because we didn't have a separate area to do that, however when our Bangladeshi colleagues heard about it they were furious and had a right go at the Management. If we had had our way we would have put people who had been waiting the longest first (they were what we called the real Londoners). Most of their sons and daughters moved out of the Borough and bought property in Essex (it was cheap then) because they couldn't get housed within the borough. Eventually their elderly parents moved out as well into flats for people over 60 so they could be near their sons and daughters. The council did knockthroughs 2 flats into one because the Syhletis (Bangladesh) had large families which reduced the amount of available housing. The housing associations started to build 5,6,7 and 8 bedroom houses with 2 kitchens (to house those with 2 wives) on the Isle of Dogs which was at the time 99% white locals, it caused a right stink and the Isle of Dogs traditionally a Labour voting area with 98% social housing voted for a national front candidate and he won. There were demonstrations every time there was a council meeting.
