Weirdly enough I own CS:S but somehow not GMod yet (I have it wishlisted though). It just came with the Valve pack or whatever it's called, my first ever purchase on Steam.
You're pretty wrong. CSS is a sick game and it was a replacement for your beloved tf2 to many people. It gave those vibes like tf2, bringing the community together. Unlike CSGO, it's WAY less competitive and way more fun. I remember spending time with complete strangers as a kid and feeling very welcome. We'd just talk for hours and have fun. And all the "uncanny" things Richter provides are completely wrong and plain stupid.
@@smarterror555 I mean I feel kinda creeped out in CSS maps, however maybe that’s just Source being Source, with all the liminal spaces and stuff, I wouldn’t call him completely wrong and plain stupid, probably your nostalgia blinding you
lets be honest, CSS's warmer feeling and warmer tones make it feel alot more appealing and charming, csgo doesnt have that feel(its a lot more gritty) , thats one of the reasons leet world became so popular was because of the source engine making it feel like the summer time on any map, really brings back memories
contrasting to Halfe Life 2's entire art design centered on being really really bleak I always really enjoyed CS:S maps because they were made to but just normal modern day settings that felt more warm and inviting. That and most maps had that sun blindness feature thing that added to the lighting effects. After playing CS:S with bots for a long ass time and playing the maps in Garry's Mod I get real cozy vibes from most of the maps, I'm even nostalgic for the damn soundscapes it's good stuff man
@The Stealthy Nut Oh hell no, goldsrc feels so good for me, and i'm only 17. Source feels good too but goldsrc's movements is what I like the most. Counter strike had slower movement than source but it was also more about skill
I really like early source game aesthetics since i think they are really i mean really charming. It just feels like im in a place i know very well like my own house or somewhere like that.
Early source engine games are very "bloomy" if that makes sense, its all bright and saturated like a summer day where newer source maps have less exaggerated bloom and colours
I feel like the sound behind doors is a nice little detail. And all the the maps are full of easter eggs and secret details which would be considered game breaking in global offensive. And the “uncanny vibe” comes from all pre 2010 source games. The game tries to be realistic and fails at it in some spots. The bot feature is in no way creepy. The game sparks a lot of good memories, same memories tf2 brings. Overall, I feel pretty nostalgic to the game.
I thought that was to show how people are living there where the terrorists attacked. And they locked themselves in. Maybe playing music to calm themselves.
I don't find CSS to be creepy cause I grew up playing CSCZ. And CS1.6 was revolutionary with its mods like drivable vehicles. Then CSS came and it just blows my mind with its engine physics that I've consumed so much time playing that game with its creative servers. Edit: Grew up playing CS and based from a nostalgic perspective.
cs originally had a drivable apc on siege, which was removed in later versions it used the half life tram system, and all modded vehicles in cs 1.6 do too
i remember when i first saw source come out and tried playing it, when i saw the ragdolls... dear god those were the best 5 hours spent. i was throwing myself off ledges on low hp and shooting teammates to see how everyone ragdolls, i was so intrigued by them 😂
i wouldnt call CSS "dead". there are still many consistently populated servers, and modded gamemodes like jailbreak and zombie escape are still pretty popular.
@@regera6019 Jailbreak is mod for CS games where T is kept in jail cell in prison map and CT is police and they make terrorists do minigames and the goal of terrorists to somehow escape and get guns and kill all CTs. Zombie escape is where Ts are zombies and if you get hit by one as a ct you turn into one. Usually zombies have a lot of health
Honestly despite all of CSS's obvious flaws this game holds a special place in my heart, being the first source game I played wayyy back when I was a kid (back before CSGO, even though CS 1.6 still outshined it) It introduced me and many others to the whacky world of community creation, maps, gamemodes, servers with 600 megabytes of terrible plugins which took 30 minutes to join for the first time (Like a DarkRP server nowadays).
Ohhh boy i remember waiting for that sweet half a gig of jailbreak content to load up on a 100kb/s connection, felt like eternity and it was like that for every server, even though they were pretty similar!
What makes it scary imo is the way the game feels both retro and realistic Plus some maps have this yellow-tint that gives the map an "abandomed" or "post-apoc" vibe which 2008 games often did to make their game feel more "realistic"
@@samuelkim1827 as someone who has spent hours playing Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas and Half-Life 2 on my PS3, I mostly agree with you. It’s just that Half-Life 2 adds grey to it, and Fallout 3 is just green.
2:19 On the 1.6 version of italy, these rooms had destructable radios that played the same music, so they probably wanted to keep the reference in source.
As someone who played CS:S a ton with bots as a kid I'm glad you mentioned Havana as that map was always kind of locked in my memory as That One Map, a sign of experimental game design during rushed development. A weird mechanic of randomized pathways that wasn't really liked by the community.. probably because you couldn't abuse them unlike the physics props
@@salsamancer Yeah there's definitely some resemblance in the two, albeit difference being one of them is random and the other is dependent on who won last round and what territories are controlled.
Havana was fucking beast, it was a great map with a great atmosphere. It was generally liked amongst more "thinking" Polish players, but at some point casuals and diehards expected to only play Dusts and Office on repeat... :/
CS Source to me doesnt feel unfinished or bad. Honestly the hate train against CS Source almost exclusively comes from the CSGO crowd. When CSS came out, nobody hated it. It was a fun silly casual game, as was originally intended, before the overly competitive crowd came in. Also the bots were insanely well made (barring some slightly buggy pathing) for some reason. You could communicate with them as well as them with each other and give orders. They were situationally aware, and could often hold their own against players on medium to hard difficulty. I love it, and dont know why they threw it in the trash and made the CSGO bots laughably brain dead.
Damn, CSS bots are hackers, even on the lowest difficulty it's not too hard for them to headshot you if you're peeking out of corner. And it takes about 100 ms for them to react no matter how difficult they are (bot spotted you -> you hid behind a wall -> you're peeking out -> bot headshots you in 0.01 sec)
@@Demirgon bruh the millisecond they peek a corner it’s instant headshot death with the actual worst weapon in the game. I have PTSD from that one moment in all my gameplay. Don’t turn the bots to maximum difficulty.
So the early release version of CS Source had a single CT and single T model that are much more detailed with movable eyes (like the hostage). Also the reason there are ERROR models in the surround sound test room was because it was supposed to be dead bodies of that early T model that they removed with later updates. That surround sound test room was an option in the sound settings in the release version. It would be cool if you do a small video on the differences between release CS Source and the final version. (also do a video on how much destructable items are in the office map, especially compared to CS GO).
The original "egghead" T model was so goofy. Plus those floaty ragdoll physics (I actually fixed this by recompiling the .phy files with modified damping factor, but that'd probably get you kicked/banned nowadays if it's even still possible)
@@sickmind33 It's kinda sad honestly, kinda like the infamous "Spongebob Theory Guy", the creator of one of the most interesting ARGS ever used his overly popular Spongebob videos to turn them into ARGS themselfs, but his channel was already like that, and he just used the popularity to turn the tables around, here is different because, Richter's channel is about reviewing/talking about source related topics, he doesn't do ARGS himself, so the algorithm just completly ruined how people look at his content.
Whenever I first started playing CS:S, the first time I saw the bots speaking to each other with voice chat freaked me out. It made me feel like they were getting advanced every second even though this is a game from 2004 and is probably not getting an update.
It's some influencing Zoomer thing. It seems to be coming out of the same place that brought us the 30 year old "Boomer" meme. Everything in the past is to be considered old or creepy.
this op seems like such a zoomer, I feel exactly the same, csgo is so soulless, has no community of developers like source does because the same zoomers have no soul it seem and can't make anything of value without the promise of money from their over engineered trash.
What's even kinda uncanny is that Even If you playing a map with no bots you can still hear music on the Map's background like doorways, This mostly happens with Inferno Havana and maybe Italy.
CS:S gives me this unexplainable feeling, the closest word I can think of is a warm, nostalgic feeling. I remember playing on pirated servers for years before I actually bought the game, I would play zombie escape every damn day as it was my favorite gamemode and imo it had some of the most creative maps made for that specific gamemode. Sometimes I would just play by myself and check every single detail on the maps that came with the game as well as community made maps, they just had this weird charm to it. In a way it felt like opening a time capsule to a different time. Thanks to CS:S I developed a weird obsession for old source games/mods HL2:DM, Fortress Forever and Half Life 2: Human Error to name a few (hell even Half Life Source gave off this feeling for me!) Sorry for this long ass paragraph, I just really love the Source engine and I'm hoping one day I myself make my own projects with it, I really don't care if it's now considered old I still think it's one of the best out there, maybe even better than the ones used in games nowadays!
Have you tried playing on minigame servers? That was the real stuff in css! It was very fun and whacky. Its unique to css only, never found that game mod in cs1.6 and csgo
CSS is my childhood, and i can understand how it can be creepy. It uses HL2 assets and many of the assets are based on slavic buildings and esthetic. Those who have never lived in any slavic country should know that we indeed have this gray sky, abandoned buildings, and during fall and winter it does look like you're in Chernobyl. But i guess all this made it more immersive to me and made it more memorable for me, and besides i do like my games to have little bit of creepy in them. I just love the ambience of hl2.
CS source for me is probably the best cs out of them all, it wasn't made for competitive 5v5 rather it a game that trying to made fun of itself, I could just join in a random pub server and get a random MOD out of it, because it hasn't been updated for years, making it the "most stable cs" since every bugs has turned into a feature, and I love them for it
It's so interesting to me that there's such a large new culture around the old Source games. I remember being super hyped about the Team Fortress 2: Brotherhood screenshots but that was nothing compared to the HL2 E3 demo. As a CS 1.5/1.6 player, CS:Source absolutely ROCKED! Of course it looks rough nowadays but back then ooohhh those b tunnel tiles 🤤 I guess my point is that it's interesting that to the younger crowd, games like Garry's Mod or Majora's Mask seem creepy or have a lot of spooky lore now, whereas for those of us who played it on release it's just nostalgic and cozy, good vibes from good times. Wherever all the love of creepiness is coming from, I think it's great! Just silly to me cuz millennial Edit: also having dynamic eyes in player models would be a rather unnecessary use of memory on our poor old pentium 4 Radeon 9800s 🙃
I watched the video and....I really don't agree on any points. It's not creepy or unsettling at least to me. The music behind the doors makes it feel like people live there. I didn't know about the sound test map though, that is the only slightly creepy thing in the video.
Same lol. This entire video felt like a "build up introduction" to him actually going into more detail about CSS, but then he goes "welp, that's all I got" and all he showed was a couple of maps and a GMOD thing... how creepy!!!! It was basically a "look at this, that's weird huh? what about this? alright thanks for watching."
as if your tiny 4 minute video can describe the full on decade of never feeling quite right that playing CSS levels on Gmod did for me..........oh well......
Tbh thats pretty interesting, don't know how they made it in a way that kinda gives a feel of mystery for the maps, If that's a consequent of the rushed game development then its pretty darn cool, i like the feel of it, even tho i never played it, just the original 1.6.
It's because everyone now has a scoop super paranoia with a sprinkle of ultra schizophrenia with a topping of mega PTSD so the source engine is scary or liminal or wacko.
Fun Fact that 2 stranger things from that CS Source like Piranesi have animal statue and Italy has a music once you come close to the door is already presents in the earlier CS because of Piranesi & Italy Creators,so it won't be weird it will be a nostalgic moments from the earlier CS
This is going to sound weird, but I like your voice alot. Feels like im watching a modern version of a TOP 10 TF2 WEAPONS video from back in the day and it's super comforting. Love you, Richter. Keep making amazing videos.
@@RichterOvertime I think it adds realism, think about it, there are terrorists attacking a place you're at or live so you need to drop everything and leave with no time to turn off a TV or radio that was playing.
@@svijj_ maybe not for l4d and csgo their assets are so different from the vanilla source gmod is on that having them just in the base game alongside a 2 poly car is just sorta weird. all the other games, they should be in the base game though
The errors in the surround sound map are supposed to be dead Ts and one live CT who is relaxing on the chair. The reason they're errors is because it's the early models which don't exist in the final game, there is an image in the settings which shows that the map is supposed to look like
I love CS Source. I used to play it all day long around 2007-2010. Back then, we didn't had internet at our home (I live in Turkey). It was expensive and a luxury for most people. Even if you can afford it, was super slow to do anything. Because of this, bot matches are the only experience I had with this game and surprisingly they were fun as heck. I remember poking around the console and discovering the noclip command, it was like a new gamemode. Nuke, Prodigy and Train were my favorite maps simply because they are more detailed than others. They had more to explore :')
Author probably was like 2yo when it released lol. Dude when source engine hit the scene, nobody was EVER thinking that physics in games without fps hit are even possible! CSS looked stunning to its time and was great game that added a lot of new people to CS community, those who didn't want to play old fashioned cs 1.6. Game was created as nextgen CS 1.6 remake to make players move to newer engine, but instead it split the community for 8 years until csgo was released, which made everyone happy and slowly reunited entire community. That is why maps are just remakes, ambient sounds like the one in cs_italy is just remake of the same sound from 1.6. Secret rooms where just easter eggs and the sound map was made for sound test and you could access it through menu. Make your research next time
I will love CSS to my death, first game on Steam and the one I played when I was a kid, it became the center of my childhood, from matches with bots, to the crazy randomization of cs_havana, to the many mod creativity with zombies and minigames, and SmoothFewFilms Leet World, it was the center of all for me. CSS is now remembered as the "game you need to play Gmod with" because of the many assests it is used for maps. One thing alot of people I think don't know is the fact you can access an area in cs_assault that you were definitely not suppose to which brings your point further about unpolished maps, but basically from CT Spawn go up the stairs to the train and behind you there is some fences on a wall, with some strafe jumps you can access the roof of a building.
I played cs:s literally yesterday. There's still a bunch of public servers with enough players to properly play. Can't tell you how many private because i have it set to only display public but there's surely some of those as well
A lot of those are bots. Not sure how the servers make them count as actual players but you’ll notice on the scoreboard that none of them have profile pictures, just the default T/CT icon.
@@skyc-1375 I've found servers with bots that have pfps and autospam chat to seem like real players. But you're right the game still has servers that are full of people, play the game to this day
I grew up with it and still love it to this day. It is basically the best experience you can get when it comes to casual counter strike, thanks to the weapons being stupid op compared to GO or 1.6. The community is more welcoming as well. edit: forgot to mention the amount of modded servers and variety of maps as well. Though not as much as when it was at it’s peek, there’s still some that are quite active.
Piranesi and Havana are ported directly from cs 1.6 with little changes thats why they are blocky. The giraffe is just an easter egg from the map creator.
piranessi giraffe is an easter egg left by the original creator of the map in 1.6, they literally just ported it over with the rest of the map, boot room in assault was probably also an easter egg that has something to do with the original creator
Small correction: Turtle Rock isn’t really the same studio, the Evolve and B4B developers are an entirely new team. Almost all of of the devs (save one or two, that are just suits now) of CS:S, L4D, etc. work/worked at Valve and didn’t leave when TR formed.
"yes, the same turtle rock from that disappointment (back 4 blood)" Wrong, it was a completely different studio back then (they also made Left 4 Dead). I would be surprised if more than 5 devs who worked on CS Source still worked there today
Errors in the audio test map should be player models. The one ct and one t model first shipped with the game. I think of this map as a impractical but cool way to test audio.
The muffled music on cs_italy came from CS1.6 you could hear the same music if you go through that alley. i think something similar happens with Inferno, but i'm too lazy to go and confirm right now xd
creepy? tf? how can a house with music inside that you can hear when you get close to the door be creepy? its just detail, also the boot and statue are just easter eggs, also the bots are very cool, you can give them orders using radio commands and they have cool voice lines that fit very well, for the playermodels, i think they look absolutely badass especially the CTs, very nice video btw but i just dont get wheres the creepy
I mean, I almost had a heart attack the first time I played on that Italy map from CS 1.6 because of the random singing in some of the houses. Yes, I get easily startled by random things.
Just fucking play the servers you dolt, they still exist! why do people say shit like this when the things they're talking about still fucking exist like it's not gone from existence.
I played the hell out of zombie escape maps back in the day. They had a simple but fun kind of charm to them. The real wacky maps were on the mini game, deathrun, and surf servers. Buses from Hell, and that Matrix surf map come to mind.
The German edition has the "surrender" animation due to laws banning video games from depicting people in law profession or military being killed. They also stop gore as well. The notable case here is L4D2 The Parish.
funny, this is my favorite counter strike game by far, the vibes it gives makes it so I get a lot more invested than csgo when I'm playing by myself with bots chattering about
The maps never really seemed weird or uncanny to me whenever I played it, the game was pretty impressive to me for its time, it fealt pretty realistic compared to a lot of stuff I played beforehand
1. The elevators on Office, you just resolved your own mistery, maybe theres a basement or a parking lot down there 2. The hidden things are just easter eggs, no big deal 3. About the blocky stuff, well, the game is from 2004 4. The bots speaking makes them more human, the only annoying thing about them are the voices tho
0:34 come on... this isn't fair, to just label Turtle Rock as being responsible for Back 4 Blood. They created Left 4 Dead, and were acquired by Valve in 2008 for its mainstream release.
The best game ever (but v34) that took my childhood with such amazing memories and people, even on my bad those times computer I had 150 FPS 5x5 ESL game with anti-cheat, so smooth. Unfortunately was so underrated for pro scene. Css times it’s when we’re so many moviemakers that made so unbelievable movies and loved that they do. Everyone knows what gamebanana is, not everyone, but knows what is sourceradio. Cs go is shit in everything: shooting, guns sounds, maps and their textures, no custom weapons models, no bunnyhop for just community like it was in css (was fixed by zblock for competitive games, but for community we had!) Valve just destroyed my emotions those times when they literally killed css (by Hidden Path company) in 2010 and 1 year after shipped a decent cs go game and completely for my opinion destroyed it later (because at the start it was more like css). Look at even new programmers at Valve and compare css and cs go, cs go is so laggy, bugged and making for money only, css was made with love by great old school programmers and perfect map designers. New players will never fill those emotions that we had as community in css, never...
You are right in many ways! Css was the center of my childhood. I played CSS competitive. And made so many friends till today. 2010 ruined it with an update, and then CSGO Release ruined it forever. I remember playing on inferno and an update removed "yellow". Lol
There’s this business called Dean Stewart Photography, or “dsp”, stylized in the exact same way as it is on the hostage’s shirts, except it says dsp and not dsb. Weird.
Heres a very weird and funny stuff on CSS: Cbble: can actually make bots confuse and can run into a random wall Aztec: some bots are dying when they jump the wooden bridge Dust2: some bots are a bit too slow Inferno: some bots getting stuck by one gap
im so glad i found this channel. i have always been obsessed with valve related things. especially in things just like this video. keep up the great stuff
IDK man. I grew up with this game and it was always one of my favorites. One of those games that felt "homey". Me and some buddies would have LAN parties with CSS, that was genuinely one of the most fun times of my life. Never got creeped out, never found it confusing or odd. Not too long ago I hopped in the game with bots and it's just a nostalgic, homey feeling, didn't feel creepy and empty or anything, especially since the bots actually communicate over radio. Even nowadays, I constantly play CSS because of Surf and it still has a decently sized community. I don't really get how people claim this is an empty, creepy game.
I think the CSS maps, actually this applies to every source map, they are creepy because of this phenomenon called "liminal spaces" you basically expect players to fight in the map but you are alone.
lol absolutely nothing is creepy about this game. You're just trying to hop on the ''source is creepy'' bandwagon. All you did in the video was say ''ooh this thing is so weird!!'' or ''I find this creepy'' without every explaining why. And none of them made sense to be interpreted as creepy.
Not many people know this, but there is a thing called "easter egg" where developers put in fun little things that reference something or are very strange by design. So I'm thinking that the shoe in the hidden room has no function at all and is just a so called "easter egg". But since not many people know what an easter egg is in 2022 with no almost no videos on youtube covering any easter eggs in games, I'm not suprised why people didn't understand what the purpose of the shoe was.
@OctoOOZ Well, cowardice is a vice, so... But I specifically didn't call him evil because just because a man is partly vicious, doesn't mean he is evil.
I think that CSGO tried to remake CSS yet for me, it still failed at it. I always thought of Counter-Strike as a more realistic version of what TF2 would be, goofy mostly but serious and that is what makes me not really like CSGO CSGO to me is more tactical and more realistic and that is not how I saw CS to be like I do like CSGO but it didn't quite catch what CS felt like for me at least
CSS is so nostalgic to me. There was just something special about it. When it came out I remember everyone was loving the physics in it and were amazed how fruits for example split into pieces when you shot them, or how ragdolls reacted to when they got shot by different weapons. The hatred/dislike towards this game is most likely from people that never played it, by either sticking with 1.6 or started with Go. All in all it was a great game for its time and it lasted for years and years.
always will love css, first source game ive ever played. one thing that can help css be even creepier sometimes are the zombie modes, all of those real strange zombie skins in every server, 1 zombie skin i'd like to point out that always stuck with me for a long time that i like, in creepiness and ig just being really cool looking in its own way ig, was a model/skin called S-LoW's Real Mutant which was actually the enemy by the name of Mutate in the original 2006 Prey game, it was in a medium to small amount of zombie servers through out the years, the moment you see one of those chasing after you, you'd sh1t your pants.
Lol most of the points u find creepy are ports from cs 1.6 Ambient Sounds The Stone Giraffe on Militia behind a secret room and the shoe in an inaccessible room are either ports or references to how modders "watermarked" their maps usually with hidden rooms or walls you could shoot to find either a bitmap of their cat, family or friends or just some logo. CounterStrike was a mod, even tho it was officially sold by Valve as CS1.6, the vast majority of users were modders or ppl that used mods. Most maps in 1.6 even had(and still have) the same description text as the 1.6 maps had. CS Source was literally a rushed port of 1.6 into Source engine which added a sort of charm that those that never played CS1.6 during its prime, might just not understand
Things that were already in CS:CZ (and maybe 1.6): - Italy map music behind door - Office map elevators - Bot-to-bot chatter, although haven't heard how they talk con CS:S
The music playing on cs_italy is true to the CS 1.6 version of the map, the guitar track when going left from CT spawn and Pavarotti on the radio by the hostages
I'm actually looking for two ancient maps from my childhood, they keep reappearing in my dreams and have lots of significance for me. Despite my memory shifting since then, my mind keeps tugging me towards finding them. No luck however, can't find any leads as they're either 1.6 or source maps. Nonetheless if anyone has any suggestions, please comment! Very important to me. First is a climb map set at night, raining, as you clamber either blocks or rooftops. it has a deer + stadium in separate sections outside the map, weird right? Second map is some sort of arena/lobby that has out of map sections as well. One of these sections has a car spinning on a pedestal in a black room. I can't remember if it was a dojo, a spa.. but it came off as an arena or mini game gamemode. Vague but it's all I got, I swear these are real maps. I've spent nearly three months in collected hours browsing gamebanana for any semblance of them, or anything even remotely similar. Wish I had more details.
I think the hidden objects (like the mentioned shoe or the giraffe) are some sort of kinda watermarks left by map developers, similar to the rooms with text you can find on some maps in 1.6
@@RichterOvertime honestly I was drink when I posted that but I was just implying it's not that weird to have a secret room In a map for shits and giggles loved the video either way.
CSS was the first game ive played cus i saw my dad playing it and i was thought on how to play css by my dad. And for some reason i love killing the hostages as a kid and i was laughing after i killed them. Needless to say my parents unistalled CSS
developer: *adds small insignificant details to game to make the world feel more alive* "yeah this is weird I don't know why they would do this, kind weird." ok dood.
I think people are watching too many ARGs or something, the bots talking and the easter eggs are all charming things that in, my opinion, csgo lacks (charm in general) Also imagine calling others "specia kids" because they disagree with your (arguably weird) opinion lol
Whole I think the ARGs definitely contribute to typical explanations of what makes Source creepy, I think that in general the idea that it was creepy/eerie existed long before the ARGs, with the ARGs being a byproduct of common opinions.
iirc, the underground room on assault was intended as a copyright trap (or at least thats what i've heard), basically if someone tried to copy the map they would also copy the underground room, so valve could be like "hey you copied our map. how? you have this underground room, and so do we." could be wrong but idk
They added these things to add climate to the game. Simple as that. Easter eggs like the music or a bloody room or the statue were always interesting and that map with changing geometry is probably a playground for developers.
