CPKC 374(CSXT 3444) waddling through the floodwaters Sunday afternoon south of Bellevue, IA on the CPKC Marquette Subdivision. Other location(s) where CPKC 374 was spotted: Massey Station April 30, 2023 @NTR-OTC @SouthWestRailCams
@@sanddabz5635 I heard that standard procedure they send a high rail through and only if the track is still in place do they send the trains through after it.
@@KuvDabGib Water 3 inches over the rail head requires mechanical dept approval prior to operating over the rail for that very reason--traction motors aren't cheap!
Thanks for not overlaying music, or over talking the beautiful sound of that Engine, and train. I saw the Andrew Jackson completely above the Opre Mills parking lot in Nashville, Entirely above the parking lot, listing a good 15 to 20 degrees..., being pulled down by the sunken dock... Her Stacks Leaning over the roadway back in May of 2010.
Now that's a brave engineer going over steel track, road bed and bridges not knowing if anything had been compromised by the flooding which was up to the top of the wheels!!! Glad it all went alright with no catastrophes to date!!! BRAVO!
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When I lived in central Indiana, there were still some small timber b ridges over creeks. The lines would park loaded coal cars on them during flood events to keep them from floating up and moving.
Truly a remarkable catch. I've never seen anything like this in railroading and I'm 60 y.o. I'm sure the conductor was praying that no knuckles would break at this moment.
I can not imagine what the feeling would be going across a bridge with this locomotive and not being able to see for sure what , if , anything was still holding tracks in place ! wow !
I believe that here in the UK the regs are that a track is complexly closed if the water is above the rail head, if it's below the rail head but above a certain height then I think it's a max speed of 10mph
It's pretty cool that coming around that corner, before he even touches the water, you can see the pressure wave generated by this large item. I guess it could be from the ground he's compressing as he approaches, but still, massive.
A couple of weeks ago, a CPKC train derailed up here in northern Maine due to a washout. I don't know if the track was inspected prior to the train going through or not. The locomotives ended up off the tracks, and a diesel fuel spill resulted. Latest news is the railroad is having difficulties repairing the washout because the ground is so saturated and muddy due to recent heavy rains, heavy equipment can't get to where it's needed. And although I'm not a railroader, it seems to me that just because an MOW vehicle that weighs maybe 1-2 tons was able to safely navigate the tracks through flood waters, doesn't mean three locomotives weighing 200 tons each plus the weight of the hopper cars can safely do it. It worked this time, but how long will that kind of luck last??
canadian plantation had us push-pull trains thru nasty Big Muddy floodwaters that were up to the trainman platform on rail cars, all qheels and trucks completely submerged.
You can see in some parts the very top of the rail is still visible and you also have to think of the weight keeping those wheelsets pressed down on the track displacing the water as the train moves.
Well, we're rolling on rails held in place by plates and spikes, resting on ties supported by gravel resting on water saturated soil, also known as,...mud. ugh
6.21.2 Water Above Rail Do not operate trains and engines over tracks submerged in water until the track has been inspected and verified as safe. Operate engines at 5 MPH or less when water is above the top of the rail. If water is more than 3 inches above the top of the rail, a mechanical department supervisor must authorize the movement. Running locomotives with the water above the rail can result in damage to the traction motors by creating electrical short.
Unfortunately, the entire shipment consists of 88,000 unprotected tons of plaster of Paris, all of which got wet. Which means that the train now permanently weighs 136,000 tons.
The train is perfectly safe. Because of river backwaters year round, the whole bed substructure has been built on big chunky rock. The ties are not going to float up because steel rail is dang heavy. No washouts will occure as backwaters have little current, Water raised evenly on both sides of track due to bridges and culverts.. Stream under bridge little current as Mississippi backed up into stream. Traction motors fairly water resistant as they subject to rain and snow and ponding all the time....
Where exactly was this Video Done because CSX is aNorth and South Line. I can think where it would be other Florida or Ohio because Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky are all Hilly which would make the Water flow away, but who know not I said the Blind Man.
Wow! i never saw anything like this before, i see the bottom of the hopper cars just touching the water, what about the axel bearings being exposed unless their sealed very well.Great video.
CSX Runs North and South from Florida to the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, I actually grew up one block west of their Huge Switch yard also the Loading Ramps and Yards of General Motors. Back then there was 24 Auto Plants in Genesee County so there was a running Joke that there Was a Cadillac in every Driveway. So North of The Beecher Metropolitan Water District where I grew up my buddies and I would play on those Trains Riding them to other Smaller Cities to the North or South of the Rail Yard. There were Tanker Chemical and Fuel Cars that went through or stopped and Switched to other Outbound Trains. We like those because their 10 mph. Maximum Speed was Because of what they were Hauling through a Populated Residential Area. Fast forward I Worked for the Fire Department that the Rail Yard was, Well one Winter Years ago one of the Propane Tanker Car Had a Really Bad Leaking Intake and Discharge Valve. In really Cold Temperatures Those Valves could Start Leaking so sure enough there was a Tanker hooked the 35 Tanker Cars Mostly Filled with Propane but a few car has Toxic Chemicals. Every Single Care Was Fuel of Something Flammable or Very Hazardous Chemicals. So the First thing was to Evacuate (1) One Square Mile in a Circler Direction. The Thing is You can’t Make People Evacuate unless they are will and my Dad Actually Refuse to Leave, Man didn’t I catch every kind of Hell over that. Anyway Our (Fire Department) Roll was to Standby In Case of Explosion or and Emergency. The Owners of the Tanker Cars ( @ Least Their Respective Companies Decision Makers ) They Flew in Trained Demolition men who were Actually Highly Trained on that Very Situation ( apparently it’s very common to Happen ) they landed in a Helicopter in the Huge Church Parking lot we all stood at Freezing because of the Extreme Cold. Then hopped Out of the Helicopter into a Pickup Truck was down there (1) One Hour then Hear they come back to the Staging Area, The Count Down From (10) Ten Down and Boom a Massive Mushroom Cloud also a Very Loud Explosion. As soon as that Happened back into the Truck Then Down to the Tankers Location. Was There probably (15) Fifteen Minutes Here They Come, Did a News Report on How They Blew The Fire Out By The Explosion Taking all the Oxygen away from the Fire. Then they Shook hands with Two Hob Nobers Get back one The Helicopter and Just Like They Landed They Flew Away. I Guess Back To Texas. Not Every Time I see a Train going Real Slow I know what Hooked to that MovingTrain. Now at (57) Fifty Seven Years Old I live literally 3/4 Mile West of The North South Line Through Vienna Twp./ Clio Area .
That is probably the limit if not slightly over for that speed. The risk is getting water into the traction motors, water and expensive critical electrical components don’t mix.
The motors themselves are pretty 'dumb' being chunks of steel and copper wire with (I expect) carbon brushes and maybe not very high voltages so any water would get 'burned' (cooked) out. Plus there will be plenty of grease around. After all cars etc still work in the rain. they will have been designed and tested to work with a certain amount of water but not submerged.
Really poor judgement considering the BN derailment in ND when the tracks were covered in water leading to a huge release in crude. Keeping ballast and the roadbed dry is very important in rail.
@@brianurban9654 I was wondering that too So the same as we have in UK. But check out India were they go through floods at track speed and it is up to the floor level. I always wonder what damage they do to the traction motors and other stuff
So I wonder what the depth of the water has to be before it is a no go because of the risk of shorting out the traction motors? Also curious if it is different for GE vs EMD...
Unbelievable. There was a crash into the Mississippi River in Wisconsin recently, and the water was not this high. Here you can see the current. The poor engineer was doing his job, wondering if the tracks were even there. It is not often a train makes waves without an accident. I'm glad they are grain cars so that the only other problems would be the engine oil and fuel and no significant hazards.
Hi I'm George Santos and as a train engineer/roadmaster/trainmaster/general manager/union rep/US secretary of transportation and I also wrote all regulations involving trains, I can attest this is very diffucult. I also was a trainer for crossing flooded areas
Thats a first, I dont think I've ever seen anything like that before. Train levitating on top of a river. Amazing how they were not deterred, a good testimony to railway engineering, the road bed was still solid
All I could think about through the whole video was the ballast shifting on the curves once the weight hit it and the whole train just toppling over on its side. Meep.
