CQB Technique: Former JTF2 Assaulter Teaches Single Man Room Entry (Not Optimal) 

I play fps video games but even I know that some retired cop from the us is gonna b giving dumb advice. Get out of here.

You have very valid points.

I think most people are missing the point of a 4 minute video where he focuses on something specific, even mentions it in the title and in the video. This vid drives interest for the hands on course (like a trailer/ad) where everything is covered including the content in your comment. Being from a background to have been a trainee and a trainer I find his training style to be excellent especially for a 4 minute video........

No you’re right but as he said this is a last resort type situation. He’s said before that clearing sectors is far better than taking the room by yourself.

@@oshadan2444if you watch the video he ends up back exposed to the bad guy… cop is right

Follow this guy's advice in this video, and you'll end up dead.

@@keystrokesproductionslmao jtf2 are some of the best he knows a lot more then you my friend

@@NolzySZN JTF2 or not I'm definitely not following any advice from this guy that's for sure, that bs he did inside the room is a death sentence, but continue.

The technique is extreamly useful for multiple reasons. Not only for the proloaded muzzle strike like a spear coming through the door way, but also as a technique to limit barrel exposure as you enter the room. Honestly it just sounds like this guy doesent know what hes talking about when it comes to the technique, and or he was too lazy to put in the work to make it a functional part of his tool set. As JTF2 is supose to be the best canada has to offer in cqb skills, this is a complete embarrassment.

Yes, the preload is also going to allow me to point me weapon AT the target and push the weapon AT the target, rather than trying to swing the weapon AROUND into place from the shoulder.. It's not "from" vehicular combat lol, idk what he was on about. I under shoulder a weapon through a doorway unless I am already panning the doorway for a target in a known position. It just works for some of us, maybe it doesn't seem to work for someone who is less coordinated?

​@@notsure9301You'd be surprised how dogmatic mindsets regarding CQB can permeate even the best units. But it's typically not indicative of the entire unit's quality. For example, this mentality he's touting is also commonly espoused by a specific group of former CAG guys, namely dudes who come from A Squadron. They're always going on about how one shouldn't ever break the rifle down, how dynamic clearance is the only valid form of clearance, etc. Basically ignoring all the lessons learned from the GWOT. Meanwhile guys who have retired from the other assault squadrons preach much more current ideas and tactics. Tellingly, A Squadron took heavy casualties well into the later GWOT compared to the other squadrons. So even though this guy might be saying one thing, other JTF2 squadrons might think different.

@@themeanestturtle jtf2 does kind of have to do cqb this way by default as they do have hostage rescue mandates so they have to be hostage rescue ready at any time... im just super suprized this guy buys into it to the point that he thinks its the best thing to do. Some people never learn xD

I was thinking the same thing. Also I think the only time collapsing is acceptable is when you are button hooking. I mean you don’t have to collapse when doing a bottom hook but 🤷‍♂️ it all just depends on the person.

@@Not_very_grey Yep. He 100% should've buttonhooked.

Because they don’t teach the button hook anymore like we did in the old days,,,,and why wouldn’t you take a quick peek to your left as your breaching the doorway to the right. Too much lag time going into the right then turning behind you to clear the left. And what about slicing the pie? Right to left to clear that corner? Unless it’s a dynamic entry then just look left fast as you go right.

@@buckgs1465 pretty sure they’re still teaching buttonhooks. I also prefer pieing off the entire room before entry if time permits, sometimes the situation warrants more dynamic entry, but that always increases the pucker factor. The reasoning behind not doing a “quick peek” to the opposite direction, is because it is generally considered a no-no to take your eyes away from the direction of your weapon for safety reasons, also if you look left and see a bad guy now you have to swing your weapon around to match your field of view which let’s face it, if that happened you’d probably eat a bullet. But it could depends on what the walls are made out of. If they offer ballistic cover, you could certainly tuck back in the strong side and quickly reevaluate, maybe frag that turd if you have grenades. Either way, one-man is risky business.

That's exactly what I was thinking. If your right has a threat or not you would be able to see it with an open door. No threat check left. I learned how to pie helps with entry or windows

was thinking the same thing. plus you can pretty much see the entire right side already.

@@dereksanchez6751 That's another question. Why dig right when you've seen 90% of that side of the room?

@@iamjocanadianBecause number 1 man is always right. ;)

Sometimes you don't have the time. You just threw in a flash or cs

@@thamomentum you always have the time, thats a dumb response. always ask yourself why... why are u running into the meat grinder? like if your willing to die for no reason, in order to secure one room everyone's going to leave right after anyways, do you my guy.

Single man structure clearing is literally the most dangerous thing someone could attempt. Eventually in most structures you will have to make a decision along the 180 degree line for which direction to commit to (for the purpose of going deeper inside the structure). I get your point about using limited entry to try to gain as much info as possible, but in some situations that will only help so much and you'll still have to pick a direction to commit. Add in additional stressors like active threat situations, and yeah you can see why single man structure clearing is asking for death.

@@brdagr And that is a fact.

over the shoulder and under the shoulder stuff is legit AF. its to reduce signature as you check the corner, this guy is simply a joke. if you got taught the over the shoulder stuff, you got taught better then this clown.

You are EXACTLY CORRECT. When he hits the doorway and observes the right corner, he can see the nearly the whole wall so he would know that no threat can be there. In that situation he 100% SHOULD HAVE BUTTONHOOKED to the left corner as it was the only unknown. The only thing I can chalk it up to is that he was using that entry example generically-assuming that each side of the room was equally "unknown". But the devil's always in the details and in CQB every scenario is different. You always need to take into account those things. But even so if you approach an open door from the left, unless the room is extremely long, you can usually see all but the deep corner on the right side. But the Left side you can't see anything. Even after you center-step you still have much more of the left side that's unknown. In that scenario you really should always buttonhook left UNLESS you have seen/heard something that suggests there's a badguy in the the right corner closely hugging the wall. Short answer is that your instincts were good.

What is a buttonhook?

yes, but now people think I am referring to a sale when talking about house clearing

wait a second... are you trying to say that just because the most optimal way is hard that you should forget about it? instead of training it until its a repeatable action? it sounds like your too stuck in dogma that got alot of people killed. have fun with that 👍

Im not disagreeing with you he is running a short barrel without a suppressor. Imaging running a 16 inch barrel suppressed to get through the threshold there may be a time and place to bring that over your shoulder to get through the door.

@@MTG9878 the problem arises in short barrel and long barrel that as you enter, you have this big stick coming through the doorway before you have eyes into the corner. giving the enemy more time to react as you now still have to train the gun left or right into the corner where the bad guy is. not doing it is just objectively wrong, from the objective of limiting your barrel signature pre entry. and if barrel signature into the room doesent matter, then why not just stick your barrel into the threshold when u first stack on it... its all an absurd argument, made to keep old dogs feeling like they are high speed with their outdated tactics.

@@notsure9301 I think youre putting a bit too much emphasis on barrel signature. Sure, you dont want to blatantly have your barrel/rifle sticking deep into the room/past the threshold before you make entry, but ultimately if there is someone in a room like that, they already KNOW youre there as theyre going to hear you progressing towards the threshold at some point of the progression through the house/building/room(basically no matter how surreptitiously you move, you will make enough noise to tip off a bad guy that youre somewhere looking for them). Thats why the priority is to be able to have the rifle in the strongest position possible for you to deal with a threat as fast, and accurate as possible. Therefore pulling the butt over your shoulder and then driving it forward is just a waste of precious time where youre NOT in a favorable firing position ready to fight, all so that you can do what...have your barrel a handful of inches further back so they dont see your barrel as long as possible...? Which like I said, likely is irrelevant as they will still HEAR you regardless of if your barrel is a handful of inches further back. 1 man CQB is very much not ideal, you only win through speed, efficiency, violence of action...and a little bit of luck, but speed is primarily the important factor there(how quickly you can effectively make entry, then process whats in front of your rifle, identify a threat, and deal with the threat is what decides the winner and loser, milliseconds count). Managing your barrel going through a threshold is primarily more to mitigate against it being potentially pushed/taken control of by someone youre not expecting to be so close(which wouldnt happen with the strong position the JTF2 guys rifle is in, tight to his body and ready to fire). But obviously not every situation is the same, I think at times both strategies have their uses, although more often than not what the JTF2 guy is preaching is favorable.

@@Handcannon77 im sorry but your simply downplaying how important the barrel signature is, theres a difference between "they are in the building moving around" and "they are entering the room right this second". and the longer you can delay their thought of "they are entering right this second" while actively entering the room, is seconds that you are winning in order to put the fight into your favor, as you decrease the window in time they have to react and react correctly. further more you talk about how its a stronger position to fight from if someone gets hands on... complete and utter bull. if you short stock or high port before entering you are preloading a spear thrust prior to your entry... if theres a guy there then 1. you remove their ability to grab your gun as it wont be sticking into the room before you enter into the room. and 2. if theres a guy standing there and you extend out your rifle your busting some ones head open and either killing or atleast knocking out the guy standing there theres literally no reason not to do it besides "i dont want to train more" it is the most optimal way to enter a room, its just a question if you've trained it enough that its functional. coming from a community where millions of rounds go through Glocks and rifles to make every bullet accountable, i find it dumbfounding that repetition to achieve optimal performance is now the devil :/

He’s former jtf2 he knows what he’s talking about

need to gain situational awareness obviously here he is moving at an instructional pace... Kyle Morgan teaches the same thing about working a threshold, these guys have done it at the highest level which is why they are qualified to teach it. no more no less

You're watching videos at the bar ? Must be a boring ass place

Pie

Yes, you will be able to shoot and operate the rifle left handed in the CAF and no, you don't choose a side based on the side of the body you operate the rifle from.

@@tjhatton1508 cheers thanks!

I can't unsee it now.

Yes you can. You don't need to see through the tube to properly utilize a 1x dot.

There are soo many bloody trolls / wannabees that can't even read or listen to whats demonstrated in a 4 min vid as a sample for a much larger session.

maybe because step center or any dynamic entry is completely useless and the perfect way to commit self death if you doing 1 man cqb?!?!?!? hello? xD

the onlt reason hes showing this dog water is because it looks like what they show in hollywood and it looks good in the videos. this approach is terrible and further more wtf is up with his aversion to collapsing the gun?! this whole demonstration is a complete joke.

@@notsure9301 did you get that from league of legends or call of duty?

@@notsure9301Its a 4 min vid sample ........but lets see some creds from the army surplus store warrior.......

He pretty much cleared the right which you can see at 4:03 in the video. The dead space was to the right which you could see when he had to do basically a 180 to engage a target which would have shot him in the back! Definitely should have button hooked in my opinion! You are right when more than 1 is better! Also just because the point man leads the way doesn’t mean he is actually right all the time!

point man cant be wrong... but he can be dumb. and that's what everyone is getting at, he made a very dumb call. and if you arent trying to find the most optimal way to clear a building, what are we doing here? honestly ask yourself that. are we just running into buildings in order to look tough and die like morons? or would we rather dominate all the angles and not allow the enemy a chance to hurt us? your mind state over this is all jacked up on outdated CQB dogma and Hollywood propaganda of what a "good soldier" is...

​@@LRowe-ld1og point man is never wrong... but he can be Re***ded. and this is a blatant example of that saying. simply saying "this is not cod" does not mean it gives you free reign to enter into the meat grinder of cqb and do this outdated BS...

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He’s tier one… How dare you question his tactics.

Its really a center fed room so there are actually two deep corners. In a corner fed room there is only one deep corner. If you are doing 2 man entry the number one man chooses and is always right whichever way he chooses to go. If that makes sense. Im not questioning his tactics that is not an optimal room to show which corner is deeper as it is a center fed room. Hope that helps. You are right you should always drive the deep corner or the unknown first unless the threshold assessment gives you stimulus to go the opposite way.

It’s a troll video

@@HWG-wm8ld how so?

And then you tell yourself read the Bible because that's not in the Bible anywhere....but he DOES hate His Word being Perverted and Changed ;)

Y'all???? 😂 You have not won a single conflict in 80 years.....I think the only thing you have ever done is played call of duty......Why don't you go to Ukraine and prove yourself in a real war....

@jonnywishbone1342 so, instead of arguing the content of my statement, you resort to an ad hominem attack. Quality keyboard commando behavior. How long have you been fighting in Ukraine? I only ask because you telling me to prove myself is fucking hilarious if you haven't. If I gave half a shit about Ukraine or their war, I'd have already joined their International Legion. I'd also love for you to go up to someone from your country who served in Iraq and tell them it wasn't a real war, see how they respond.

Yet, JTF2 was selected to do a capture mission early in Gulf2 by US command (there's a picture of them disembarking from a USAF CH-53 with pajama boys in tow) and JTF2 don't even really train for capture, only kill, yet they were chosen. Not Delta, not SEALS, not SAS etc, JTF2. Pretty sure they had to kick some doors with real bad guys behind them, and not the women, children, bakers and cab drivers you mashed 😉 The Canucks might be grossly underfunded and screwed by their Chyna loving PM to no end but just using Wainwright as an e.g., they consistently smoke the US in war games.

@swh0rd682 that raid was in southern Iraq, and that battlespace was British and Canadian to deal with. Ever notice how when you'd watch the news you'd never hear stories of US anyone doing anything at all in cities like Basra? Because there weren't US troops operating in a place that was an allied nation's AOR. Gee, I wonder why the Canadians did a unilateral raid in their AOR....... I love it when the keyboard commandoes start their shit when they have absolutely zero frame of reference for the topic they're talking about so confidently. Also, in Sadr City, both deployments I ended up there, it was mostly members of JAM we were raiding, and those dudes even had foreign mercenaries fighting with them like Chechens and shit. Lots of speculation from people who've never done shit with their lives, but that's why YT entertains me.

@swh0rd682 oh, also, literally every combat arms soldier trains on EPW drills. That means capturing people alive. You just implied that they don't train in a skill set that even the basic Canadian infantry trains.

He explains the reason in one of his older videos

What he did is NOT what CAG/DEV do. They would've buttonhooked after they center-stepped the threshold.

I’m glad someone said it first. He might be good at teaching but, he’s teaching people to get killed.

Agreed

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@@direct_action_combat thanks. I didn’t see the Patricia badge in the first video. I figured it was something along those lines but I’m sure you know as well as I do, that American flags aren’t too common in the CF. Chimo.

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