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Cracks are appearing in Central Texas pools, causing them to drain dry | Here's why 

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Alkali-silica reaction, also called "concrete cancer," is a hidden defect plaguing pools in Central Texas, making them unusable shortly after they're built.
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@georgesmith8774
@georgesmith8774 Месяц назад
The kids used to say, "Daddy we need a pool!" "Nope" I answered "You need friends who have a pool."
@nomaderic
@nomaderic Месяц назад
Like the saying goes "a friend with a boat is better than owning a boat yourself"
@czechmate6916
@czechmate6916 Месяц назад
Both great answers 👍👍
@terryfonz4603
@terryfonz4603 Месяц назад
You just need a concrete construction engineer present to test the concrete before it is installed to insure the concrete mix is mixed correct
@Ek0
@Ek0 Месяц назад
When I was a kid...what I wanted more than anything was a tree house. One day, I finally got mustered up the courage to ask my parents, and I asked, "mom... dad.... can we get a tree house?" and they said, "No ek0... we have to keep living in the van." -Anthony Jeselnik joke. lulllll
@manuelrojas387
@manuelrojas387 Месяц назад
Best reply I have ever heard 👏
@darrellmoore1743
@darrellmoore1743 Месяц назад
If concrete cancer is a result of incorrect mixing. Why is the concrete contractor not on the hook? ASR is not a disease. It is a production failure.
@DanOKC
@DanOKC Месяц назад
Because the Cement Mixing Company provides the mix the Chapter 11 - Sub-Contractor ask for. The Pool Builders don't care because his sub-Contractors just change corporate names and then open back up under a new business name contract out to same builders over and over.
@DanOKC
@DanOKC Месяц назад
@@SWelosishere WHO PLACE THE ORDER AND the MIX? Builder's RESPONSIBILITY is to give and ensure spec's are being meet. If not the builders who suppose to hire qualified sub's labor and ensure they meet his requirements. (The Builder is the General Contractor) According to your logic a Builder's responsibility is ONLY to collect money. Sweet gig
@darrellmoore1743
@darrellmoore1743 Месяц назад
@@DanOKC Vinny Di Goombah concrete inc.?
@DanOKC
@DanOKC Месяц назад
@@darrellmoore1743 Sorry. that one when completely over my head. I am say document, document and stop pointing fingers and changing company names every season.
@What.The.Fluff.
@What.The.Fluff. Месяц назад
​@@darrellmoore1743 Yo! I know a guy!
@epacig
@epacig Месяц назад
These flex-seal commercials are getting more elaborate
@tomcibulskis7649
@tomcibulskis7649 Месяц назад
Flex seal is cheaper than a lawyer!
@Gary65437
@Gary65437 Месяц назад
You'd think there is a nice blue rubber they can spray on as a liner like some basement foundations use to keep water out. Sure beats rebuilding a pool.
@Danny-fs1hk
@Danny-fs1hk Месяц назад
😂😂😂
@mrmrmrcaf7801
@mrmrmrcaf7801 Месяц назад
@@Gary65437 Of course it exists, it is a nano-based pool paint and a rubber membrane is formed , it is used all over Europe in swimming pools because there are big temperature changes and that the water does not freeze in the concrete and break it but here they don't want to use it because the price increases and they want as much profit as possible.
@nczioox1116
@nczioox1116 Месяц назад
If only they had flex seal on the titanic
@Xx-po1fu
@Xx-po1fu Месяц назад
No pool is worth $115,000. I'd rather drive to the beach, or a local pool.
@ryanehlis426
@ryanehlis426 Месяц назад
That’s actually on the cheep end.
@SusiesRepeat
@SusiesRepeat 27 дней назад
Or a above ground pool, vinyl and Aluminium.
@limbeboy7
@limbeboy7 День назад
​@@SusiesRepeat that's still less than 10k in raw materials. What's the other 100k+ for?
@marcusdub07
@marcusdub07 Месяц назад
$115k, that figure alone would have saved me the impending trouble.
@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605
@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 Месяц назад
Yeah we can tell..
@philipclift7205
@philipclift7205 Месяц назад
Yeah, kiddie pools are 15 bucks at Walmart! Same, same.
@mhxxd4
@mhxxd4 Месяц назад
We know! Broke mf
@Gfysimpletons
@Gfysimpletons Месяц назад
@@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 chump
@davidgray1515
@davidgray1515 29 дней назад
Some people have more money than brains, You would think he could find a more attractive mate.
@Damone7653
@Damone7653 Месяц назад
Back in 1974 we begged our parents for a pool and they said no. We were able to get a pool liner the neighbors were throwing out and made a pool and called it "the cheap parents pool"... great memories. Missing you Mom and Dad thanks for all the love and guidance.
@mashdatrashvideos2831
@mashdatrashvideos2831 Месяц назад
I build pools in CA and we are required to do core samples, the cost for a concrete inspector and lab results is $400.00, cheap compared to what can happen
@lazarosanchez5314
@lazarosanchez5314 Месяц назад
The problem with this is that you only find out the results after the concrete is placed..
@mashdatrashvideos2831
@mashdatrashvideos2831 Месяц назад
@@lazarosanchez5314 Yes, we have to turn in results prior to plastering the pool, it is part of the pre plaster inspection, sucks for everyone
@kevinconrad6156
@kevinconrad6156 Месяц назад
@@lazarosanchez5314 But you know it is not what you ordered and can have it replaced immediately.
@Mixer-he2wb
@Mixer-he2wb Месяц назад
And final payment isn't withheld until project completion?! Keeps the contractor on the subcontractor, etc.
@FaithandNova
@FaithandNova Месяц назад
@@lazarosanchez5314at the end of the video she said to make sure they are using the right concrete mix. Meaning there has to be a way of knowing beforehand
@me5768
@me5768 Месяц назад
Poor concrete, the wrong mix, to much water in the mix, not enough cement in the mix the list goes on. The bottom line is they did it as cheap as possible to make money and now their customers gotta pay. They’re all just gonna file chapter 11 and walk away from it.
@MrWaterbugdesign
@MrWaterbugdesign Месяц назад
It's not actually possible to build a pool using concrete with "too much water" because the concrete is shot out of a hose onto a vertical surface. Too much water and the concrete will just fall down. The issue with these pools is the wrong aggregate being used. Not using non-reactive aggregates or low-alkali cements or adding enough supplementary cementitious (to hardened concrete, such as fly ash, lithium nitrate, etc... It's kind of a mess because the concrete contractors aren't engineers so they don't know what kind of concrete mix to order. The concrete supplier just delivers whatever mix is asked for. And property owners want cheap, cheap, cheap so any pool bid that includes an engineer to spec the concrete mix and test each delivered load gets rejected by customers. And of course Texans hate government so there's little oversight. Congrats Texans, you played yourself.
@me5768
@me5768 Месяц назад
@@MrWaterbugdesign yes they did
@peter-pg5yc
@peter-pg5yc Месяц назад
They already have.
@1realtruthrightnow742
@1realtruthrightnow742 Месяц назад
Thank is exactly what they did
@davidhughes5369
@davidhughes5369 Месяц назад
@@MrWaterbugdesign TRUTH!!!! 100%
@crinklecut3790
@crinklecut3790 Месяц назад
How did the Romans build pools so well over 1,500 years ago but we can’t?
@mfblowfish4671
@mfblowfish4671 Месяц назад
They weren’t using Portland cement Or steel rebar.
@bodyzoasispersonaltraining9186
@bodyzoasispersonaltraining9186 Месяц назад
​@@mfblowfish4671they used tons of layers of rocks. And time tested technique of burnt shells.
@jenc8953
@jenc8953 Месяц назад
Because they used materials built to last that’s why everything they made is pretty much still standing till this day. I stayed in a 500 year old house in Florence, Italy 2 yrs ago. There was no concrete cancer there and the craftsmanship was insane.
@Al828282
@Al828282 29 дней назад
When you carve a pool out of the bedrock, it tends to last longer.
@davidgray1515
@davidgray1515 29 дней назад
Obviously people are way dumber now
@tedecker3792
@tedecker3792 Месяц назад
I worked in a concrete test lab while I was in college. Each material in the mix had to pass rigorous testing. Any part of the mix can call failure. An engineer can specify each component of the mix, its source, its validated testing, and the ratio of each for the mix. Don’t cheap out.
@skutchBlobaum
@skutchBlobaum Месяц назад
All concrete cracks eventually.
@tedecker3792
@tedecker3792 Месяц назад
@@skutchBlobaum all concrete is not the same.
@steveincali1
@steveincali1 Месяц назад
Neighbors must have loved the sound system and all the visitors.
@Gfysimpletons
@Gfysimpletons Месяц назад
Yeah, he’s a nuisance I bet…..
@hello-ef4bn
@hello-ef4bn Месяц назад
Don’t buy a house 15ft from your neighbors if you don’t want to hear them. If people having fun bothers you then go buy 40 acres of peace and quiet.
@kstreet7438
@kstreet7438 29 дней назад
​@@hello-ef4bnlol for real. These two comments are sad.
@Cocollyt
@Cocollyt 29 дней назад
@@hello-ef4bnyeah yikes I love hearing my neighbors. As long as people are respectful this is just part of living among people.
@levak8740
@levak8740 28 дней назад
Ha ha ha ha !
@southern04man
@southern04man Месяц назад
Bad cement is more common than everyone thinks. There's a cement plant in my area that has horrible cement. They getting sued now.
@danwaller5312
@danwaller5312 Месяц назад
Do you know the difference between CONCRETE AND CEMENT?
@lostfool
@lostfool Месяц назад
​​@@danwaller5312Cement is the most important ingredient in concrete. It's the binding agent in concrete, bad cement makes bad concrete. If you're going to try to make someone sound dumb don't make dumb comments.
@serafinacosta7118
@serafinacosta7118 Месяц назад
@@danwaller5312 he is talking about bad Portland Cement. It is assumed concrete is parts gravel, parts sand , water, and Portland Cement. Rebar reinforced. And poured.
@danwaller5312
@danwaller5312 Месяц назад
@@serafinacosta7118 if the Cement doesn’t meet ASTM C94 they can’t and wouldn’t sell it. If the cement is bad it wouldn’t only be showing up in pools!
@Jamietheroadrunner
@Jamietheroadrunner Месяц назад
Probably bought it cheap from China. In China, they call it tofu-dreg construction because all their newer buildings and skyscrapers are literally falling down around them. It’s fascinating and horrifying the videos you see from China. These people are mostly part of their new middle class and they end up buying homes they can’t move into and they still have to pay off the banks anyway! On top of all that, all their real estate companies are filing for bankruptcy. Whatever our problems here, we are lucky to live in the USA.
@patpatpat999
@patpatpat999 Месяц назад
I dont know about Texas, but in most states when you are trying to sell your house, at least 1/2 the potential buyers will pass on any house with a pool.
@user-qr7ee2cp4y
@user-qr7ee2cp4y Месяц назад
Wouldn't touch a house with a pool. A bottomless pit in which you throw money.
@jkd77433
@jkd77433 Месяц назад
One might wonder how much of this concrete mix was used in our roads and bridges as well as other structures. Denver's new airport was plagued by similar problems with the concrete used in the runways in the 1990s.
@anderander5662
@anderander5662 Месяц назад
There's an expressway in my town of Tulsa that failed after a few years and is now being completely torn out and redone.
@serafinacosta7118
@serafinacosta7118 Месяц назад
And then they blame the Chinese and their Tofu Projects.
@Molon_Labe1776
@Molon_Labe1776 Месяц назад
They replaced my street recently and its like recycled asphalt. It's got huge gaps between the aggregate and it starting to fall apart months after. Water also weeps up from the ground during/after rain.
@asymmetry9988
@asymmetry9988 Месяц назад
I installed a pool at my last house. Never again. They are a money pit.
@viktorakhmedov3442
@viktorakhmedov3442 Месяц назад
Your description of what causes ASR is incorrect. It has nothing to do with how it is mixed. It's the type of aggregate used. Most other areas learned this lesson 20 years ago.
@moochythecat3435
@moochythecat3435 Месяц назад
All of the Milwaukee County public swimming pools built in the 1960's are still in mint condition and have never leaked...
@peter-pg5yc
@peter-pg5yc Месяц назад
And Roman concrete is self healing and still standing..
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep Месяц назад
I thought they use salt water for it...
@NativeAmericanSwag
@NativeAmericanSwag Месяц назад
115k for a pool? For a hole in the ground to add some water in? They don’t have the same financial concerns many other people have…🤦🏻‍♀️
@supersize75k5
@supersize75k5 Месяц назад
That’s the price of a new fully loaded 1 ton truck or a Denali suv, it’s not that crazy
@TannerCity
@TannerCity Месяц назад
@@supersize75k5no but it’s crazy that people pay that price for them.
@thomascunningham111
@thomascunningham111 Месяц назад
When ASR ("concrete cancer") occurs in cement, a soluble gel of sodium silicates forms on the aggregates. This gel can swell and expand as it absorbs water, creating pressure that FRACTURES concrete from within. The result is often significant cracking that weakens the concrete and increases risks of structural failure.
@Jason-pq5mq
@Jason-pq5mq Месяц назад
How many buildings, structures, and support columns were built using these contractors? I hardly doubt it’s only pools. Does to story go further or stop at pools?
@imfloridano5448
@imfloridano5448 Месяц назад
I was thinking the very same thing. I'm wondering if any government structures have been built using these contractors as well.
@akshonclip
@akshonclip Месяц назад
Shotcrete is completely different. This is the result of the contractor adding too much sand to the mix. It’s easier to trowel but not as robust.
@tomcibulskis7649
@tomcibulskis7649 Месяц назад
It probably only affects pools. Like roofers, pool contractors are cowboys. Y'all don't need no engineering. My swimming pool excavation contractor would not accept my drawing. I couldn't send it to him registered mail because he slept in his truck. He did the excavation correctly but it took 3 months.
@serafinacosta7118
@serafinacosta7118 Месяц назад
@@tomcibulskis7649 you should’ve posted as a topic reply. At the very least a few more people would giggle at your anecdotes.
@JCSmith-uo5cu
@JCSmith-uo5cu Месяц назад
I was thinking the same thing. Those lips and hair were nuts. Why I will never let my wife get lip injections.
@sjbock
@sjbock Месяц назад
Came here for the comments about a $115,000 pool and the wife's appearance and I'm not disappointed.
@1realtruthrightnow742
@1realtruthrightnow742 Месяц назад
I was watching a court case a few weeks ago. A former pool installer admitted in court that his company installed thousands of pools that have a defect in the concrete that will cause them to fall apart. He dissolved the company and reopened under a new name, still doing the same work. All of those home owners are now left in the lurch with no recourse. Also I had NO IDEA how expensive and lucrative the pool business is.
@eugenefirebird8938
@eugenefirebird8938 Месяц назад
I bet his neighbors loved his sound system. ha ha ha
@JeffsGypsy
@JeffsGypsy Месяц назад
Was thinking that, also.
@radicalronie
@radicalronie Месяц назад
I was thinking the same thing with those houses being so close together! Lol Bet the neighbors are happy now. 😅
@backtoasimplelife
@backtoasimplelife Месяц назад
Yeah, some of them are probably SO disappointed that this happened.
@motorhead281
@motorhead281 Месяц назад
This guys got a hot wife and lots of $... he doesn't have hood rat neighbors like you all lol😂
@paulcontreras3264
@paulcontreras3264 Месяц назад
I have been in the construction business for over 27 years and 20 years with my own company. I always tell people to please please get structural construction components engineered then get bids based on the engineers report and specifications. In almost every case the homeowners decline because of the cost. How much does it cost to demolish and rebuild your pool or foundation? 100,000.00+ and you won't spend $1,000 to have it engineered . Amazing stupidity.
@alexsystems2001
@alexsystems2001 Месяц назад
So bad concrete mixture can be fixed by having a structural engineer?
@tomcibulskis7649
@tomcibulskis7649 Месяц назад
The specifications for the concrete mix design were probably not correct. I would have MANDATED stainless steel rebar #4 @ 12 inches on center both ways one layer. Or heavy stainless steel wire mesh of the same steel area. Pools are legally "non structural". Consumers need to hire a third party Structural Engineer for a concrete swimming pool. Ask for a full set of calculations also. If you cannot afford to pay an engineer 1000$ or 2000$, then you will not be able to afford to pay your swimming pool utility bill.
@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605
@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 Месяц назад
The pool Contractor collects the 110,000 dollars💰... And then makes the pool Subcontractors cannibalize each other, then picks the low ball Subcontractor to do the work..😂 And then start a podcast How he is the victim..😅 😊
@scaramouche8244
@scaramouche8244 Месяц назад
@@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 I am sure the illegals who did the work are not worried at all.
@paulcontreras3264
@paulcontreras3264 Месяц назад
@@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 100% Correct.
@dandan7973
@dandan7973 Месяц назад
I just can’t feel bad for them. You can spend $115k on a POOL?!? 🖕🏻🖕🏻
@richardsmith5840
@richardsmith5840 Месяц назад
$100k-$125k is the pricing for an in-ground pool now around central Texas.
@radolfkalis4041
@radolfkalis4041 Месяц назад
None of these people are going to see a penny for their pools. Most concrete subcontractor are small operations than will ninja vanish at the first sign of trouble, a d the costs of these pools will absolutely bankrupt almost every pool company out there. I feel for these poor folks.
@_PatrickO
@_PatrickO Месяц назад
The owners need to go to jail. A pool company selling 100k pools who claims to have no clue how the concrete needs to be mixed is absolutely ridiculous. Of course the owner in the video is apologetic, he doesn't want to go to jail for his massive fraud.
@michaelstrang2563
@michaelstrang2563 Месяц назад
Pool companies don’t mix or pour concrete, there is a company that pours it and a company that manufactures the concrete itself. It the the manufacturer of the concrete that is at fault.
@radolfkalis4041
@radolfkalis4041 Месяц назад
@@michaelstrang2563 That is what I said. :)
@_PatrickO
@_PatrickO Месяц назад
@@michaelstrang2563 Sorry, but you cannot be in business if you aren't validating the mix in any way. You also should be buying insurance for this if it is a business risk. The consumer is the only innocent person here. These fly by night pool companies ignore all quality and just quickly install pools that look nice with no care about how long they will last. They don't get to say they don't understand concrete as that is the primary thing a pool installer needs to know.
@collinandry1188
@collinandry1188 Месяц назад
@@michaelstrang2563EXACTLY
@greydovegardens7688
@greydovegardens7688 Месяц назад
Bet your neighbors are thinking it's karma for those outdoor speakers you installed and most likely blasting. " We have people over ALL the time."
@davidhughes5369
@davidhughes5369 Месяц назад
EXACTLY!!😂😂😂
@geemama420
@geemama420 Месяц назад
Yes I literally just wrote this 😂
@lobstermash
@lobstermash Месяц назад
Yes. Noise like that is a form of aggression.
@MrC9Oh3
@MrC9Oh3 29 дней назад
Yeah and that fake lipped wife
@lukegaming86
@lukegaming86 Месяц назад
I like how they are describing their pool’s diagnosis like it was a human being who got cancer 😂
@theotheleo6830
@theotheleo6830 Месяц назад
A pool is great, as long as it's someone else's. Pools must be maintained forever, even when they're no longer used.
@MarkTurner-vs7uc
@MarkTurner-vs7uc Месяц назад
Never buy a house with a pool. Listen to me, please save yourself endless troubles and giant piles of money. Forget the pool.
@user-gl9iz1bp1r
@user-gl9iz1bp1r Месяц назад
Had a fiberglass pool. Best day was when we removed it. Just not worth the time and risk (had little grandkids). Lots of work to remove, but enjoy the extra space.
@NicholasWHaley7
@NicholasWHaley7 Месяц назад
Had a pool growing up. It was great and totally worth it.
@TheMowsefan
@TheMowsefan Месяц назад
Can they add a vinyl liner or fiberglass lining to the pool instead of demolition and rebuilding it?
@NDcompetitiveshooter
@NDcompetitiveshooter 27 дней назад
Only if there will be long term structural integrity of the concrete basin holding the water. To do it right, a structural engineer would have to sign off on the modification being a sound remediation to the problem.
@williamlevesque6348
@williamlevesque6348 Месяц назад
Its not a disease, its quality control issue on the materials used
@galexander8723
@galexander8723 Месяц назад
I’ve recently retired from 40+ years in the concrete industry and I tell you there’s no such thing as cancer in concrete. It all comes down to the concrete mix.
@scottsnodgrass4361
@scottsnodgrass4361 Месяц назад
That’s some bad botox or plastic surgery
@danielcrouch6589
@danielcrouch6589 Месяц назад
Cheaped out on that, too.
@serafinacosta7118
@serafinacosta7118 Месяц назад
I noticed that. Trophy wife with Botox.
@rbfarrell1
@rbfarrell1 Месяц назад
Just imagine the before.
@serafinacosta7118
@serafinacosta7118 Месяц назад
Trophy wife gone bad.
@billycox475
@billycox475 Месяц назад
Lip injections, always the lip injections 🤦‍♂️
@jpolish420
@jpolish420 Месяц назад
Just what you would expect out of Texas.
@lrs7777
@lrs7777 Месяц назад
Warning: pool contractors DON’T offer to fix another contractor’s problems.
@skutchBlobaum
@skutchBlobaum Месяц назад
Yet they'll be more than happy to suggest their buddies(or their brother in law's) concrete company to you.
@FlickLives
@FlickLives Месяц назад
It’s a real shame this happened in a state with some of the worst consumer protection laws and regulations on the books. All these people are gonna get hosed.
@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605
@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 Месяц назад
👍🇺🇸 The great state of texas, And there beliefs in less regulations...😊
@GoonyMclinux
@GoonyMclinux Месяц назад
Wasn't the pool builders fault, the concrete mix was faulty.
@ButterNutter37
@ButterNutter37 Месяц назад
​@@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 Corporations own Texas now.
@peter-pg5yc
@peter-pg5yc Месяц назад
Limited liability companies. also bankruptcy, close down business its all over folks they be gone.
@neilopfer5687
@neilopfer5687 Месяц назад
The laws/regulations really don't matter when you have wide-spread failures as I've seen comparable issues (not concrete related) in California, Illinois, and Michigan. These three states have buco regulations. Plus, from what's presented here, it was the quality of ready-mix concrete coming from the concrete plant that was problematic which is obviously not made by the concrete contractor.
@gallardo360
@gallardo360 Месяц назад
fiberglass is the way to go , hands down the best and cheapest to maintain 💯 %
@patrickradcliffe3837
@patrickradcliffe3837 Месяц назад
First sign of ASR I would have drained the pool and told builder that they are paying for a liner installation.
@UncleKennysPlace
@UncleKennysPlace Месяц назад
In the midwest, due to freeze/thaw heave, nearly every pool has a vinyl liner; I'm putting in a new one now. Not cheap, but works out to a couple of hundred or so per year.
@anderander5662
@anderander5662 Месяц назад
It's not just the pool itself it's the steps and the walls surrounding it
@patrickradcliffe3837
@patrickradcliffe3837 Месяц назад
@@anderander5662 I agree the surrounding concrete will need to be replaced with the correct type.
@MM-qs2ny
@MM-qs2ny Месяц назад
Back in the 80s. Just swam the river and built a rope swing. Way better than a boring pool.
@FINfinFINfinFINfin
@FINfinFINfinFINfin Месяц назад
These guys swim the river and spray gunite.
@alexlopez5800
@alexlopez5800 Месяц назад
Can't do that now. Over crowded rivers, polluted rivers, and everyone's hostility towards each other
@maryswanson9982
@maryswanson9982 Месяц назад
We found an old rock quarry, or went to the public pool.
@mdb45424
@mdb45424 Месяц назад
Public pools have the fun without the maintenance. Just got to share
@nonawolf7495
@nonawolf7495 Месяц назад
Wait till bad concrete starts showing up in bridges, runways, foundations, et...
@RodManFB
@RodManFB Месяц назад
That backyard was full of people when the pool was new. Now… not so much!
@HipsterBanana
@HipsterBanana Месяц назад
Someone fricked and went for cheap aggregate that reacts in the concrete. No matter how many times they fixed it if the aggregate is messed up, it'll be a money pit.
@dogface-hd8px
@dogface-hd8px Месяц назад
So glad I bought an amazing fiberglass pool!! I am out time to jump in my pool!
@os2958
@os2958 Месяц назад
glad to know there are alternatives
@bigdougscommentary5719
@bigdougscommentary5719 Месяц назад
Same here. 19 years old and swimming to this day.
@bigdougscommentary5719
@bigdougscommentary5719 Месяц назад
The builders make it sound like the cancer was a surprise. It was shoddy workmanship.
@NDcompetitiveshooter
@NDcompetitiveshooter 27 дней назад
shoddy materials from the plant--not workmanship
@chrismathes3647
@chrismathes3647 Месяц назад
100K for a pool? You ain't got real problems 💯
@user-bg2gh6ty2b
@user-bg2gh6ty2b Месяц назад
Right?? That Walmart pool would be like 1000 for the nice one with a pallet deck 😂
@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605
@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 Месяц назад
Don't. Be a hater, You can't put a walmart pool in that neighborhood,
@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605
@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 Месяц назад
The pool Contractor collects the 110,000 dollars💰😃... And then makes the pool Subcontractors cannibalize each other, then picks the low ball Subcontractor to do the work..😂 And then start a podcast How he is the victim, American greed at its best 😅 😊
@2ndgradeuscitizen
@2ndgradeuscitizen Месяц назад
Spending 100K for a pool is a big problem, but driving new luxury SUVs, visiting Disney parks and eating in restaurants is a necessity.
@user-bg2gh6ty2b
@user-bg2gh6ty2b Месяц назад
@@2ndgradeuscitizen literally none of that is necessary.....
@clifflong7944
@clifflong7944 Месяц назад
NOT the contractors fault. This falls completely on the batch plant that mixed the mud. They were given the specs when it was ordered. Contractor measures slump, batch plant measures concrete quality and composition. Every order can be different.
@lutomson3496
@lutomson3496 Месяц назад
if proper engineering wasnt done to specify the proper mix of concrete to match the soil and water composition, it is on the contractor. Only if the concrete plant was given the proper mix breakdown, and core sampled, and the plant failed to do so, is the concrete plant...
@clifflong7944
@clifflong7944 Месяц назад
@@lutomson3496 I worked at a batch plant...we did our own QC with concrete samples constantly so we had proof the concrete was mixed properly. Things were always being weighed ,measured and lab verified. This is just a lack of fly ash in the mix which is weird because its a super low cost component. It's a waste byproduct from power plants and readily available.
@matthewnosal6893
@matthewnosal6893 Месяц назад
This is a concrete foundation problem. Think a slab for a house. The elaborate walls steps require an engineer and a concrete contractor that communicates and are on the same page. Most in ground pools don’t have this problem. Most in ground pool’s without all the fancy superstructures don’t have this problem using gunite and rebar
@peterkn2
@peterkn2 Месяц назад
I think it's the contractor's fault because they chose the concrete mixing company to subcontract with.
@pwu8194
@pwu8194 Месяц назад
There was a wall (shown on the video) that wasn't supported by pressure from dirt. That was disaster waiting to happen. The pool needed to be supported by walls of dirt or has to have steel frame strong enough to bring it together, like those done on the top of sky scrappers. His $125K wasn't going to be enough for something like that. It was bad from the start. They wanted to have a pool, but don't know anything about engineering. Pool company just wanted to make money. Pool company can always file bankruptcy when it gets sued.
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 Месяц назад
Hydrostatic pressure is a bit like the terminator for walls... It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. "It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear! And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until your wall is dead!"
@scottprather5645
@scottprather5645 Месяц назад
There was another part of the country that had aggregate which contained pyrite it reacted and turned into sulfuric acid and the foundations were literally crumbling turned into a nightmare for a lot of homeowners.
@genehasenbuhler2594
@genehasenbuhler2594 Месяц назад
I live in the far west end of Texas- we have had this since the early 80s here! I've had to demo almost every pool made back then to now! The alkyl comes from the water they add to the mix! It's basically internal at that point and there is no way other than to use filter treated water to both make and cure the concrete!
@dunweyweydum
@dunweyweydum Месяц назад
Sounds like you could make a useful video on the alkaline water issue....???
@deemelody2396
@deemelody2396 Месяц назад
I can see adjusting the water pH with some chemicals, but why would they have to filter the water? I wonder if this "concrete cancer" cracking is happening in other states with alkaline water?
@genehasenbuhler2594
@genehasenbuhler2594 Месяц назад
@@deemelody2396 it's happening all over the country! Especially in the southwest!
@genehasenbuhler2594
@genehasenbuhler2594 Месяц назад
@@deemelody2396 here we use filter systems to remove the alkalinity for swamp coolers! That and diodes to keep the corrosion down!
@kimward5746
@kimward5746 27 дней назад
this is a great little expose. like a mini-documentary. even with some interesting closure at the end with the guy podcasting. nice job, real journalists!
@limbeboy7
@limbeboy7 День назад
When she said the pool cost "One hundred and..." I was really hoping she would say $100. Bcuz 6 figures for a pool is crazy. 3k materials, 2k labor tops. $6k absolute max
@glike2
@glike2 Месяц назад
A fiberglass pool lasts many many decades, costs less, looks beautiful, and allows pool shoppers can avoid all this.
@vivalaleta
@vivalaleta Месяц назад
But it's PLASTIC. 😱
@skin2117
@skin2117 Месяц назад
Concrete was not mixed properly. With that said why go after the pool companies? You should be going after the concert plant. You'd almost think they would have a performance insurance policy or a performance bond to cover their product.
@lazarosanchez5314
@lazarosanchez5314 Месяц назад
Great idea
@kevinconrad6156
@kevinconrad6156 Месяц назад
It's Texas, consumer has no protection, neither do the small contractors. What you get when you think government regulation is a waste of resources instead of a helping hand for the small guy.
@craigg4925
@craigg4925 Месяц назад
You know, if they mix, quicklime, crushed shell and salt water, when making the concrete it will heal itself. that is why the stuff the Romans made are still standing.
@Borkery
@Borkery Месяц назад
never go with the lowest concrete bidder
@diegop2311
@diegop2311 Месяц назад
The reason chemistry is important 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@chriscordray8572
@chriscordray8572 Месяц назад
We have know about concrete cancer for 50 plus years . Fly ash hardened the concrete. The concrete companies are to blame to knowing a pool takes different concrete than a standard foundation or sidewalk. Always use a epoxy coat over the entire pool surfaces. Deck and pool. It's a great investment on your addition to you yard. Epoxy comes in many colors. And it's permanently sealing the concrete surface. A new concrete actually heats itself below freezing Temps to keep the ice and snow off for hours after temperatures drop. No electricity or warming pipes under the concrete.
@_PatrickO
@_PatrickO Месяц назад
Pool builders: "we had no idea what we were doing, so please feel sorry for us".
@LoriL010
@LoriL010 Месяц назад
United States imports Cement primarily from: Turkey ($636M), Canada ($512M), Mexico ($254M), Vietnam ($203M), and Greece ($152M). The fastest growing import markets in Cement for United States between 2021 and 2022 were Turkey ($319M), Vietnam ($99M), and Mexico ($83.2M). China produces the most cement globally by a large margin, at an estimated 2.1 billion metric tons in 2022. China's cement production share equates to over half of the world's cement.
@serafinacosta7118
@serafinacosta7118 Месяц назад
Hopefully Brazil does not import cement. Our Steel Mills are still running. Top cement brand seller for any serious builder is Votorantin. The late Antonio Ermírio de Moraes , our Robber Baron , was dead serious about his product. He also ran aluminum smelter plants. So in hindsight , I will stick with older building structures when taking listings to showcase.
@trancextend
@trancextend Месяц назад
No body is suing the concrete provider? They made the mix!!
@lazarosanchez5314
@lazarosanchez5314 Месяц назад
Years ago knauf imported chinese drywall tainted with a high level of sulfides. Seems like a similar problem
@tdw5933
@tdw5933 Месяц назад
In Florida, it was a very smelly situation
@dustinscheller7795
@dustinscheller7795 Месяц назад
Fly ash is literally the cheapest thing ever but they may not have it in tx everywhere since it's used mainly in mines to fire proof the walls of the mine
@charrepz
@charrepz Месяц назад
Dear Pool People, I had wrapped my pool with fiberglass coating 20 years ago with a 25 year warranty. My pool is perfect still and it’s taken so much less chemicals to adjust ph and clean then standard concrete gunite and plaster pools. Also get your self a sand filter and wrap that pool with fiberglass and fire your pool man and chemical company!
@2ndgradeuscitizen
@2ndgradeuscitizen Месяц назад
I second that!
@MADmidway
@MADmidway Месяц назад
I'm with you except for the Sand filter. DE is the best filter over the long run. Simply because it can be rebuilt and you can vacuum directly into the filter. It uses less water to backwash also.
@ANT18621
@ANT18621 Месяц назад
Coat with fiberglass? How? Is that a DIY project or have to hire a fiberglass guy? Please advise, thanks.
@charrepz
@charrepz Месяц назад
@@ANT18621 professionals do fiberglass coatings on standard gunite pools. Does America still use a yellow pages? 😆
@charrepz
@charrepz Месяц назад
@@MADmidway The sand filter makes cleaning a breeze. Cleaning is why we hire a pool Man. Oh! Let me clarify, if you ever worked a pole on 6 pools in one day. Brushing algae and scrubbing mold? If you have, you know this is a Man’s job or Your girl best have some serious shoulders and stamina to make this her career. Just clarifying!
@JoseGonzalez-pv6sy
@JoseGonzalez-pv6sy Месяц назад
Hire a pool company that does shock creek this ensures the concrete is well mix because it gets mix twice
@NappyRB
@NappyRB Месяц назад
I mean a pool liner would help
@rambone5282
@rambone5282 Месяц назад
Cheap labor and more profit. Let's face it I'm Hispanic but it doesn't mean I'm the best labor out there you have to pay for skill and knowledge.
@kristibuckley
@kristibuckley Месяц назад
I would never buy a house with an in ground pool or put one in myself. Anyone I know with one has a never ending list of issues. We bought a 30ft above ground and are just fine with it. Over 20 years using it and only had to get a new set of steps a couple years back.
@DanOKC
@DanOKC Месяц назад
The receipt of the formula used by Concrete Mixer Suppliers should be REQUIRED BY LAW for any concrete work period. The Required Building Material Specifications given to the Cement Company and it's Certification of Concrete Content matching those specification, should be considered every bit as important as your Property Titles and Insurance Policies. Cement integrity impacts everything aspect about your structure, foundation, floors, driveways, pools any and everything on the property. ( Why do states NOT REQUIRED THIS? )
@shane7133
@shane7133 20 дней назад
I worked for Hines in Austin for a few years. Great company and a great owner. All I can say is that having a pool is incredibly expensive, even if it is done right. After working on them for a few years, my recommendation to anyone who purchases a home with a pool would be to fill it in with dirt.
@MrTwenty20video
@MrTwenty20video Месяц назад
That's terrible for both parties. Mixing concrete properly for pool construction is an art.
@SirHumano97
@SirHumano97 25 дней назад
I like the guy showing the pool builder awards... The awards are given based on how the pool looks when you finish it, not based on the quality of the product after 5 or 10 years which is what matters the most.
@stevec8861
@stevec8861 Месяц назад
Given the timing of complaints, have to wonder if Type IL cement component of concrete, aka PLC, is involved? To reduce carbon emissions in cement manufacturing, Type IL cement replaces 10-15% of Traditional Type I/II cement with raw ground limestone. I believe Type IL was a small part of market back in 2017 when these complaints started, but now outsells Type I/II cement.
@sw6118
@sw6118 Месяц назад
So how do you get the test pour records/know the right mix?
@peter-pg5yc
@peter-pg5yc Месяц назад
Strange a pool company doesnt keep tight control of the products used. research products use proper contractors that know their trade. So basically the company is just plain ignorant. Hit and run, uses a subcontractor with zero control ... what could go wrong?
@collinandry1188
@collinandry1188 Месяц назад
If the builder is using any NPT pool finish components, This entire material defect is completely avoided , and only uses the highest quality cement, aggregate, etc.
@salinarodriguez309
@salinarodriguez309 27 дней назад
We just got our pool built last year and this is scaring me now. And it was with premier pool and spa!
@blessedmamags7796
@blessedmamags7796 25 дней назад
Keep close watch. Hoping yours is safe.
@stephenbrand5661
@stephenbrand5661 Месяц назад
This is just part of the charm of living somewhere without so much big government oversight, and overreach! I heard Dave Rubin telling Joe Rogan all about it!that
@mrmrmrcaf7801
@mrmrmrcaf7801 Месяц назад
We have one of those big 14000 gallons Intex above ground pools for the kids and never had any problems...we install it when summer comes,you get them from walmart for $1800-$2000 and it is much bigger and much cheaper to maintain than any concrete pool from this video 🤣
@andrewfisher8749
@andrewfisher8749 Месяц назад
As a pool owner/builder here in Commiefornia I feel for all involved. I’ve had zero structural problems on my pool/spa built in 2003. I subcontracted it myself and completed it in six weeks. I lucked out before the market went crazy. $27,000.
@mvsorola
@mvsorola Месяц назад
Great story! TY for looking into this.. pools in South Texas are so prevalent.
@craiglee3253
@craiglee3253 Месяц назад
The ancient romans knew of this effect in concrete construction. It isn't new and is totally avoidable. The pool builder who has lost confidence of his clients deserves to go under.
@Reyvion
@Reyvion Месяц назад
As devestating as this is for them (financially), i'm so glad concrete cancer isn't actually like a sort of illness someone can get from the cracks of a pool.
@oliveraguirreconcreterepai4826
@oliveraguirreconcreterepai4826 Месяц назад
This problem typically gets traced all the way back to the Aggregate supplier. But the Ready Mix company is also at fault for not testing properly the aggregate. With the construction boom we had in austin, many new ready mix companies are popping and they don't have the proper staff to professionally conduct business.
@Look_What_You_Did
@Look_What_You_Did Месяц назад
Aggregate has nothing to do with it. You must be one of those new ready mix companies we hear so much about.
@oliveraguirreconcreterepai4826
@oliveraguirreconcreterepai4826 Месяц назад
Check out the Portland Cement Association (Maximum knowledge center for cementicious materials in USA) resources, it is mostly an aggregate related issue. Many other factors involved, such as water-cement ratio, compaction, and propper dosification of Suplementary Cementicious materials such as fly ash and others. Sadly, residential construction doesn't get the attention and over-all quality control requirements that a State or Federal project would have. All concrete related projects should require a materials engineer and a structural engineer, but there is just no budget for it.
@alphalight1469
@alphalight1469 28 дней назад
That would look so bad. Poor dude. That home value took a massive shot.
@imfloridano5448
@imfloridano5448 Месяц назад
Can they put a liner in it to stop the "concrete cancer"?
@user-dv7hq2rh4g
@user-dv7hq2rh4g Месяц назад
The phenomenon is not the cause, it's the result. The result of companies cutting corners and trying save costs either when using or selling concrete. I would guess it's more likely the ones who are making the concrete than those who use it.
@Peeta-wn4hh
@Peeta-wn4hh Месяц назад
It wasn’t mentioned in the video, but it would be interesting to know what grade (or standard) of cement was used.
@babyseals4872
@babyseals4872 Месяц назад
Meanwhile the Pantheon continues standing. As a society we have completely forgotten how to do everything
@rnvrnv354
@rnvrnv354 Месяц назад
What about the the reinforcement and foundation? Those cracks are huge and were created by immense water pressure! The
@common_c3nts
@common_c3nts Месяц назад
$115K and it all cracked from bad concrete. I guess you need to verify your pool company has insurance that can cover replacement if they botch the job and you need to see if you can get your own insurance/warranty for any new pool being installed. No pool company on the planet would have money to redo all the pools for bad concrete from the concrete company. There is no rapid test for bad concrete like this. Maybe if you are going to spend $100K a on a pool then go to the concrete plant and verify the mix in person with the pool company manager.
@geniemedford9200
@geniemedford9200 Месяц назад
Great idea! This should be standard procedure.
@radolfkalis4041
@radolfkalis4041 Месяц назад
If you know anything about concrete you can ask informed questions, but most folks concrete knowledge is of the stay off when wet variety
@common_c3nts
@common_c3nts Месяц назад
@@radolfkalis4041 That is why you hire a pool company. They should know to make sure the concrete is correct.
@YESITSWILL
@YESITSWILL Месяц назад
So I guess it´s true, A pool actually is a hole in the ground that you pour money into.
@jamesharrison9856
@jamesharrison9856 21 день назад
Being a layman I had a pool built. The contractor used a concrete like substance called “Gunnite”. Process: Hole dug, rebar form put in the whole, then Gunnite sprayed onto the hole walls around the Gunnite. It was trowel shaped as if dried them after a few weeks of curing they came back and put a coat of plaster on the Gunnite. No problems after 8 years. Is this problem found only in “above ground” pools? Seems to me they could have put rebar in a concrete form then sprayed Gunnite for the pool walls just as easily as the dirt hole in my yard. SMH “I don’t get it”.
@gracehall9199
@gracehall9199 Месяц назад
How about an interview with the concrete company’s? I want to hear what they have to say.
@orion2250
@orion2250 Месяц назад
Sue the concrete contractor
@nancienordwick4169
@nancienordwick4169 29 дней назад
In Seattle, the King County metro light rail addition is delayex and had to be redone due to concrete problems. I wonder if it was a supply issue for concrete ingredients. More of a nation wide issue. ?
@centex7409
@centex7409 Месяц назад
I worked in this industry at the primary supplier of pool equipment for the Central Texas area in 2021. I met and talked with most of the big builders and saw many of the realities of the industry in the area.. Here's the BIGGEST reality that lead to this: People flooding in from California freaking out about how cheap life was (yeah WAS) around here decided they all needed pools. Builders were running after tripping over themselves unable to keep up with the utterly insane demand. So of course a bunch of fly by night scamners showed up at every level. ESPECIALLY in the concrete business.. Because on top of it at, there was an utterly insane construction boom going on. The wait times for concrete were insane back then. So all these guys from far away with absolutely NO idea about the specific conditions here (like our utterly alkaline water) just took orders and ran. The builders didn't have time to check up on anything.. I wouldn't be surprised to find out over 50% off all pools and homes built in Central Texas since 2015 are utter trash.
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 Месяц назад
Poor concrete work happens in this business. Shady pool companies are a dime a dozen. They're everywhere.
@mullboll33
@mullboll33 Месяц назад
ASR is due to aggregate and its reactivity with cement. What type of aggregate is being used in Texas that makes ASR so extreme
@lutomson3496
@lutomson3496 Месяц назад
used cheap concrete...any competent engineer would know about ash and the consequences of not using it in concrete, in the projects especially with water and soil testing that identifies the chemical composition. guess there either wasnt engineering done, or if it was the contractors cheapened out
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