Craft Paints BETTER than MINI Paints??? (Monstrous Minis!)

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@TheHamno 3 года назад

I pictured Jon's kids walking in on him as he was at their craft desk wearing the wig..."Mom, dad's doing the thing again!"

@notnubilous3804 3 года назад

We all know they're gonna catch him running from one spot to the other putting the wig and glasses on each time, doing both voices

@YeeWhoEnterHere 3 года назад

Wait, they were both Jon?

@jamesi188 3 года назад

I thought he’d got Eugene from TWD to help out on the episodes 😅

@sillyeskimo8686 3 года назад

I've been painting miniatures for over 35 years and I learned long ago that craft paints can do anything the "miniature" paints can do for a fraction of the cost. Americana is my brand of choice and they do 95% of my heavy lifting. I even push it through an airbrush without issues. I will never understand how people lock themselves into the specialty paint ecosystem. Thank you for giving craft paints a fair shake.

@seleneyue 3 года назад

Because I'm lazy and want something that works out if the box. I heard good things about Testors but most of the craft paints I've worked with wouldn't work. It's too much work to test out different brands and willing to pay more for the convenience.

@sirrathersplendid4825 3 года назад

@@seleneyue - Agreed, it is mostly about convenience. Which is why I have a box of cheap acrylics in all the colours of the rainbow to use as mixers with my 25 more expensive core paints. Don’t recall what they cost, perhaps $5 for 24 tubes.

@belmarduk 3 года назад

@@seleneyue counterpoint: if you're new to painting and on a budget, mixing new colors is a lot harder than getting cheap paint to perform on the palette, and you can get virtually anything in the pantone index for a dollar a bottle at any craft store. You can also get some shades in craft paint that aren't commonly made by any of the hobbyist brands and aren't easily mixed to. Learning to work with different materials is a big part of the art side of the hobby, I'd like to see a lot more craft paint content online tbh

@seleneyue 3 года назад

@@belmarduk my main issues are that I don't know how the craft paints would work on my miniatures, or how they would hold up over time. If there were experienced people to give pointers, then sure. But I'd probably only stick to the brands they listed

@robertgallentine1095 3 года назад

...a fair...---shake---. 😅😅😅😅

@mattc2735 3 года назад

turns out if you're an award winning painter it doesn't really matter what paints you use as long as you know what you're doing, awesome work my dude

@JG-wi2dp Год назад

It makes me nervous how much confidence he's giving me as a new painter and I'm worried I'm gonna fuck up my next army trying something wild like craft paints haha

@charleswatson2605 3 года назад

Aaaaand just like that, all the mini paint companies put a hit out on Jon.

@DamnZodiak 3 года назад

Wouldn't surprise me, considering that most of them are just grifters.

@daanrutten6130 3 года назад

pesonally i worked with craft paints for YEARS before i bought my first set of citadel paint, so pesonally i always feel like they get a bad rap, so it's nice to see someone put a good word for once. XD

@peterpetruzzi8587 3 года назад

Me too. Back in the old days when we had to walk up hill both ways in the snow to school and couldn't afford to pay attention you had to buy what you could afford and that was craft paint.

@daanrutten6130 3 года назад

@@peterpetruzzi8587 For me it was that i Just didn't have easy access to them. Only when about a year ago i found a game store near me did i start to build up my collection of model paints.

@paintingbyminions8360 3 года назад

Yeah the do get a bad rap. The real benefit for mini paints is the shear variety of colors and ease of use right out of the bottle.

@badmr.frosty4848 3 года назад

same

@W.edgewargames 3 года назад

I just started this hobby about 7 months ago and use Apple Barrel craft paint to some good results, though I can always use the critique from those doing this longer than I. @benoit5302012

@ndewingful 3 года назад

Honestly this seems like a great way to get people into the hobby at a low cost barrier. That way they're not spending tons of money when they go to GW, and they can just play with the paint. Plus a lot of people aren't going to be doing those advanced techniques until later, so once they've sussed out how to do them they can always go to better paints.

@SimonClark 3 года назад

That skin tone is absolutely gorgeous

@jasons.2807 3 года назад

Hi simon

@TheProfessorKel 3 года назад

In this disertation, I am defending my hypothesis that Jon should make a Skaven army not just because it would be awesome as hell, but also that he can use that cool warpstone drip base technique on everything.

@RLBndR 3 года назад

This might be the best mini painting video I've seen on youtube. Easy NNM, Easy Rust, Using entry level craft paint. Legendary. I learned so much.

@zoltanbereczki7162 3 года назад

I always come here for the sketches and get dumbfounded by the amount of skill you have as a miniature painter.

@justarandomname420 3 года назад

Testors has been there for model builders for decades. The citrus smell of their glue still haunts me to this day.

@ElectricalInsanity 3 года назад

That's a childhood memory I didn't realize I had until you mentioned it. I can still smell it when I think about it.

@panzershock441 3 года назад

"Lets encourage glue huffing!"

@WhiskyGravy 3 года назад

😊💕

@jacobbalensiefer3846 3 года назад

I really enjoy the fact that your videos always feel educational even when you are using a “challenge” material.

@4hedgesfamily 3 года назад

Fantastic video! I get a kick out of the "If it ain't paint specifically for miniatures, it'll never work" mindset. I also get a kick out of proving them dead wrong. I got into modeling by making terrain, and I've used Delta Ceramcoat, Apple Barrel, and Folk Art craft paints for years. At 50 cents for 2 oz. at Wal Mart, Apple Barrel is darn affordable. Some things I have learned over the years: 1. If it's a color you're going to use a ton of (like the Territorial Beige I use for basecoating my terrain, I take my bottle right over to the paint department and have them color match a pint of acrylic house paint. 2. Yes, Apple Barrel makes larger bottles of the same colors. Avoid these. Costwise, you can buy 5 2 oz bottles for the cost of a large 4 oz bottle. Numbers are hard for me, but even I can tell where the best value is there. 3. Arcrylic metallics aren't that great, from my experience. 4. Craft paint colors seem to dry chalky (it might just be the brands I use), but once you coat them with varnish or your sealer of choice, it tends to come back. 5. For a cloth texture, paint a slightly thicker layer on, with unthinned paint. When it's partially dry, draw your brush straight through it. You want to leave lines in it. When it's dry, repeat the process, perpendicular to the original lines. Keep at it until you get a crosshatched sort of texture. Thanks for the great video. One of these days I'll get brave enough to try oils. Or even win the lottery and afford some Citadel.

@RobbinsNestStudios 3 года назад

That paint range would probably be perfect for terrain. Especially those pieces you want to give a little bit of TLC to but still don't want to use your expensive hobby paints on. great vid.

@lordnoar 3 года назад

Hah! I have that exact set that I bought specifically to be the "and my kids also want to paint things" set! I'll have to give it a legit chance.

@obitookenobi4604 Год назад

I live in the middle east, we don't have the miniature painting hobby here at all. Art supplies stores don't even know what miniatures paint is. So I use basic acrylic paint that comes in big bottles with basic colours and my miniatures always turn out great. I'm only 6 months into the hobby and I'm loving it. I tried to order a miniature paint set from Amazon but they were very expensive and it'll take 3 weeks to get here. So instead i decided to keep on using basic acrylic paint (Craft paint). If you know the basics of colour mixing and thinning you don't even need to use miniatures paint!! Actually basic acrylic can give you way more colours variety than mintiture paint if you know how to mix it.

@charleyedwards2121 3 года назад

hell ya :) ( i like to add a tiny bit of ink to my crappy craft store paints to really up the pigment lol great stuff (great skit too) in Canada a great low cost brand is artists loft :)

@ianbyers1250 3 года назад

I have used craft paints for all my minis over the years and have never had an issue with them. Yet every review I have seen when someone tries to use craft paints are the same. They dump the paint out and use it straight from the pot. This is the first video review I have seen where someone actually thinned out the paints and used them properly. Thank you for that.

@bruceyoung9692 3 года назад

The issue is that Testor's no longer exists. It's Rustoleum now. They just kept the logo to keep sales.

@DavesMiniMenagerie 3 года назад

Its not the pigment in the paint, its how you use it

@sirrathersplendid4825 3 года назад

You can try cheap craft yellow til the cows come home and it will never cover properly. One of the few colours worth paying a little extra for.

@dannym2359 3 года назад

My first mini ever was painted using Apple Barrel craft paints, and to this day is one of my favorite minis.

@W.edgewargames 3 года назад

I just started a few months ago and use Apple Barrel to good effect.

@grumpydragon328 3 года назад

I think it would be cool to see a video series going through several of the cheaper brands as a comparison. Some of them will obviously be junk, but some are actually quite good for the price. Delta Ceramcoat is a hill I will *always* die on.

@Brickerbrack 3 года назад

I mostly have Docraft Artiste and Pebeo, but I've also recently picked up a whole bunch from Arteza (which may be UK-only, I'm not sure); I paid about £75 for 60 colours, and I'm _loving_ them...

@Thaxsar 3 года назад

Acrylic craft paints are what I use. This is appreciated.

@W.edgewargames 3 года назад

Apple Barrel is my paint brand currently, though i have only been painting minis for about 7 months.

@sharkwolfdarkwolf2625 3 года назад

@@W.edgewargames apple barrel battalions assemble!

@W.edgewargames 3 года назад

@@sharkwolfdarkwolf2625 for the price and volume of paint, there's no better craft paint for miniatures, though I am expanding my paint varieties slowly with Vallejo, Citadel, and Arteza Fluorescent paints.

@sharkwolfdarkwolf2625 2 года назад

@@SkeleTonHammer oh, their matte paint is hard to layer without getting chalky. I always use satin or gloss finish and then flatten it back down afterwards with a good dull coat sealer

@johnathanrhoades7751 3 года назад

How did you go about learning light behavior? Your use of light brings this mini to life!

@newtpondskipper 3 года назад

One of my friends paints his historic minis with craft paints and they look amazing. That being said he is a good painter.

@Strat0Patrick 3 года назад

Oh, I was tried to deliver same thoughts about craft paints for years in our hobby-group club: - Those paints are not actually that bad: you can start use them as alternative for blacks, dark browns first, try out them on terrain or bases. - I've even purchased set similar to that one from video, and started to evangelize to use it by everyone on one of our local "terrain painting parties" in wargaming club. I was literally running across area like a mad man and convincing everyone: "LOOK HERE BOY, this is cheap and inexpensive acrylic paint that aint that bad - it is mixing well with other cokors, coverage is niiice, and adgesion with plastic and primer is good too!!!1"

@9000ethanator 3 года назад

One or two of my favorite paint jobs I’ve done are with craft paints. Getting and using miniature paints still feels nice though.

@herald0fmanwe 3 года назад

I just started printing my own terrain, and was wondering how I would ever paint it all without spending a fortune on the mini paints I am used to using. I'll order a box of this stuff!

@IceNineOcean 3 года назад

I actually recommend craft paint for terrain, because the details generally aren't as fine.

@sirrathersplendid4825 3 года назад

House paints really are great for terrain. A cheap 1/2-litre tin in dark brown is my standard base coat for everything, and I use sample pots to add colour and for dry-brushing.

@tombombadil9338 3 года назад

Jon: "There is no magic bullet" Me: "Nah, nah, nah, not listening" Great video Jon!

@bopaintsminis 3 года назад

I think these are some of the best videos for beginners out there. Just watching how you built up color on the skin to show light and shadow and define contour made my day. Thanks.

@GreenDestruction 3 года назад

can you do a video on how you started or your progression throughout the years. I am amazed how good you are in the amount of time youve been actually doing this. I'd love to know at what rate you were pushing yourself to learn key skills throughout the years. otherwise i love the podcast and the video!

@Cranacti 3 года назад

And, to the surprise of no-one, Jon buys more paints 😉 Thanks for another video, keep up the good work!

@almost_zab 3 года назад

Golden hi flow are amazing, their transparent and fluro lines are really standout!

@SigurdDecroos 3 года назад

Agreed! I also use some of the fluids line, sometimes combined with their matt medium. Awesome results and the lightfastness is amazing!

@MrParcivous 3 года назад

Damn you Jon ! You got my hopes up to finally get my first Darryl paints video ... but noooooo you had to crush my hopes and dreams ... I mean I guess that said .. good video and good information .. great paint job and stuff.

@kyIethefish 3 года назад

i never thought about using the zenithal highlight as a reference and making the two base tones and coloring in the dark and the light. I like it!

@garylee4315 3 года назад

Look into sketch type painting if you haven’t already

@fbssminis6997 3 года назад

The worst model paint brand makes the best craft paint for model painting. Go figure. Great video Jon!

@RocRolDis 2 года назад

I've painted a lot of minis in my time. To this day, two of my favorites, two of the minis I'm most proud of are a ghoul and a suit of power armor from the Fallout board game. Both were primed, based, colored and dry brushed with cheapo craft paints. Like anything in art, these paints are TOOLS. You can do anything with a tool as long as you're willing to experiment and learn the tool's ins and outs.

@tando6266 3 года назад

You and Marco need to do a paint collection paint off

@zephiel70 3 года назад

Can I just talk about how much I love how they posed the run on these guys. It's the perfect combo of "oh lawd he comin'" and "HUYAARRRGH" dork run.

@peterriecks9126 3 года назад

I started painting with craft paints and they were never shiny. I often found the finish to be too chalky.

@W.edgewargames 3 года назад

I just started painting minis, and can attest to the chalky look, but I can live with that for what I'm painting (MarvelCrisisProtocol) and it leaves a "Comic book page" feel for my liking. Maybe I'll I'll progress to Vellaho or Citadel someday.

@sirrathersplendid4825 3 года назад

Nothing a few layers of varnish can’t cure!

@IzzysIssues 3 года назад

My two best works have been painted with craft paints. Primarily because that's all I own 😅 it was definitely fun to see how you could pull this off dude 💜

@W.edgewargames 3 года назад

Me too., glass to see others that get good results from craft paints.

@mattsteele7681 3 года назад

I jave usef folk art,, Apple barrel,, and i can't remember the name of the last one but i have had better luck and results than with citidel paints. Oh been playing and painting 40k for 25 years now I still remember being over joyed when the first box of plastic space marines came out

@gnometroll1717 3 года назад

You always have the best advice in terms or getting into the hobby for newcomers, money saving materials, experimentation, etc. Thanks Uncle Jon, I love you!

@racketyneptune5559 3 года назад

I usually just watch tarped undr plarstic but from time to time a just john video is good for the soul.

@cory7328 3 года назад

Total Recall meets fantasy demons vibe from that model. Love the video and the fact you can take a product most people in the hobby would walk by and i not give a second thought about.

@Nosculptor 3 года назад

I always feel ashamed, when I use craft paints to paint minis. Now I can come out with that! :D

@sirrathersplendid4825 3 года назад

Why would you feel ashamed? Surely, if you’re getting good results out of cheap paints you are to be envied and emulated!

@Nosculptor 3 года назад

@@sirrathersplendid4825 Thanks, but it's more like the other end: I get bad results even with model paints so why not just use cheap paints? :D Okay, the the truth is I get acceptable results with both type. I think at first I need to learn to paint, and then expand my palette of proper mini paints. But I don't really have the motivation since I'm color blind, and bad at color theory. I try to motivate myself with watching videos like this, though! :D

@sirrathersplendid4825 3 года назад

@@Nosculptor - You’re colour-blind and bad at colour theory. LOL. Sounds like you chose the wrong hobby! Why not delete the “no” bit from your name and try that?

@Nosculptor 3 года назад

@@sirrathersplendid4825 Sculpting and dio building is the main thing. Painting is just the shet what's part of the game too. :D

@alfyb4512 3 года назад

If you ever want to try quality artist paint that works on minis, check you Holbein Acryla Goucha. But note it’s not particularly cheaper than hobby paints, I mostly use it for some of the amazing colors I can’t find in hobby ranges.

@ethanbarrettdebattista5124 3 года назад

Proof of patience you guys discussed in the podcast. A dope video topic as well. Next is full ball sack using ONLY craft paints!

@warrentommy 3 года назад

As a father of a 5 year old girl... that's not Fluttershy, it's Twilight Sparkle. I'll show myself out. lol

@taylord6043 3 года назад

Loved the alter ego, of the non painting trucker/bazooka hunter. Entertaining and educational Jon. Thanks so much keep em coming!.

@themonsta6669 3 года назад

With all that matt, apoxy would add a game changer to the base...water, waves and splashes and foam...🤘🤘🤘🤘

@kadiabarenbaum7252 3 года назад

Cool approach..you end up with what I would describe as a Frazetta tone to your work..which is a compliment..in my book

@natelewis784 3 года назад

"'Ey man, there's a leggo village over there..... Fix Bayonettes." that line killed me

@acerebralstringmorn 3 года назад

Testors Craft Paint: Stonks! Fun video, always love a good experiment!

@tylerbryan7823 3 года назад

Appreciate the midwest representation. Been with Menards for 8 and a half years!

@Jkos1980 3 года назад

CREATURE CASTER back on kickstarter, no thanks, last one was just bad

@beeezlebub 3 года назад

My new favorite youtuber. Keeping it REAL! Im gonna go buy some merch now lol

@kyussinchains 3 года назад

Impressive results as usual Jon!Loved the skin tones you achieved and the cool shadowed trophy heads were a neat touch too, I love how the ultra matte finish works too, you don't get false highlights from the ambient light reflecting I'll be signing up to the Kickstarter too, you've sold me on it....

@foreverfornever1124 3 года назад

Wow! The model turned out way better than I imagined. Welp might be time to stop using unnecessary expensive paints

@richardorta8960 3 года назад

I could see you turning My Little Pony figures into War Hammer like figures! 😄

@Slenkamure 3 года назад

i have found some hobby paints do perform better an example being dick blicks yellows, they can be watered down as are acrylic they cover better than citadel yellows oh yeah and a pint is $6

@bellefleur4089 3 года назад

Thanks for the vid, even thought the paint was very matt.. It looks a little chalky as well.. but still even though it might be chalky it looks great! Nice vid, as always 👌

@HuskerStrategy 3 года назад

great video, i have been painting with cheap wal mart apple barrel for years now. It gives me some hope and excitement to see a someone with skill and experience get a great result with similarly cheap paint. also, whats the song you used in this video?

@TredHedJon 3 года назад

I want free minis. ;) From one Jon to another, I love your stuff, Jon. Signed, Jon

@lolaldanee2743 3 года назад

I have been using craft paints like theese for some time (from Solo Goya, they have both very matt and very glossy paints). I find all of the things you said about Testers to be true for them as well. Craft Paints like these are way better than their reputation (except for white and ivory colors, those are chalky AF) Coverage is worse than with miniature paints, but not the main problem. As you, I've found that vibrancy is usually more of a problem. Oh and creating texture, it is SO damn hard not to create texture with these paints. You either thin them too much, and there is no coverage left, or more often, not enough, and you create texture. It's really tricky

@sirrathersplendid4825 3 года назад

The goopy-ness of many craft paints is a problem. Don’t have time to paint five layers of anything, so I tend to use my craft acrylics mainly as mixers - to adjust the hue and tone of more expensive paints.

@spenserrohr1201 3 года назад

I don't know if it's the paint, the model, your skill as an artist or a combination of all three, but this turned out amazing. Looks like a Frank Frazetta painting.

@foerender1624 3 года назад

Once I saw testors I figured they would fair well ! I been a minature painter for years and your videos actually pushed my level up a notch recently your breakdown of certain techniques clicked with me .

@silverhoney6969 11 месяцев назад

Yeah, Testors craft paint is probably way better quality then most craft paints

@metalempireinterviews729 3 года назад

Man, your intros puts a big phat smile on my face, as do the rest of your videos. I actually really like super thick paints because I can blob it on my wet palette and drag some away from that blob and water it down to my preferred consistency. Because it's so thick it doesn't become too watery to use on the wet palette like a lot my paints do after a while.

@IdahoZombieHunter 3 года назад

6:40 I want you to feel uneasy about this monster because of his skin color. This made me chuckle because I kinda felt like the fact that a three armed two headed creature coming at me with bladed weapons was already having that effect on me. Great job as always. Love your videos.

@badmr.frosty4848 3 года назад

For my first few years of mini painting, I exclusively used Folk Art craft paints from walmart. They worked fine for a begginer, great if you're not sure if the investment into mini paint is worth it to you. Don't trust the metallics though, all my old ultramarines gold trim has faded off.

@ImpendingDuff 3 года назад

Menards suddenly sells out craft paint set in droves and wonders why. ;)

@drakedragonking4698 3 года назад

Trust me you would be surprised all you can do with craft paint

@KurtisJoseph Год назад

"Dramatic use of light"... yah you are pretty good at that man.

@MrSJPowell 3 года назад

Nice paint set. I wonder how it airbrushes. I'll keep an eye out to see if I can catch this at a good price.

@hybus3696 3 года назад

some are good, some aren't. I've got a big bottle of black craft paint I use when doing base rims.

@silverrwhiskers26 3 года назад

I love the color palette for this model. It looks amazing. Especially since it was done with craft paints. So cool.

@LotusMeSenpai 3 года назад

My first properly painted miniature was actually done using majority craft paints, a Tyranid Swarmlord done in a variety of blues and greens. To this day I still have not found a better medium for blending smooth transitions on fabric, and despite years of experience since painting that first model, my 80% craft paint Master of Possession still has the best cloak out of all my CSM.

@victoryspath4116 3 года назад

As always, perfect mix of educational, funny and entertaining. I watch a lot of mini and terrain videos, but you're one of the few that I actually listen to the notifications and watch as soon as I see it. Furthermore, some of the other channels have been doing the hobby paint versus craft paint thing. And I was wondering if a painter that I think is REALLY good would agree with their assessment. Turns out, the "craft paint isn't as bad as we thought" is pretty much the consensus.

@mccready118 3 года назад

Sick vid Jon! These vids make me want to paint something that's not 40k real bad lol.

@PhazeKnight74 3 года назад

The best kind of hobby heresy, and im here for it.

@sleestack2723 3 года назад

That is an insane paint job there. Like always thanks Jon for inspiring me to go back to the table and crack on

@grokl 3 года назад

I have tried many brands of craft paint over the years, with different levels of success. Thanks for the video mate. Also I have 2 pair of big fruit bats living in my gumtree :)

@garylee4315 3 года назад

I read this in the accent

@GheyForGames 3 года назад

15:45 Uhhhhh you're wrong? It's called agrax earthshade? ;)

@nicolas-patricemenard7304 3 года назад

I myself paint with Amsterdam all acrylics "craft paint", the tube is 120 ml and costs about 6,99$. I wouldn't change it for anything else right now, especially because of the low cost.

@trotzdem111 3 года назад

Love the Rust effect! Great Video!

@bettsdn 3 года назад

Seems like their medium recipe is the key here differentiating them from generic craft paints. I wonder what the additives are?

@mahrimen 3 года назад

Nice work, the rusted swords look dope

@njabruzzo 3 года назад

Also, can you do the same with testers enamel paints? That would be fun.

@Roflmfaoftw 3 года назад

i wish craft paints were cheap in europe

@pointlezz9422 3 года назад

Love these videos, they help out so much and I really appreciate the uploads.

@Darkhorizonr1 3 года назад

This model came out sick!

@ComplexConcept 3 года назад

Awesome video! I was walking through blick and saw some cheap acrylic paints I was very curious about. Now I'd love to see a craft paint comparison/shootout.

@ejectkid26027 3 года назад

Eyes on eyes baby, eyes on eyes.. great video man!

@patrickkirchner1562 3 года назад

NInjon easily become my favorite hobbystuff youtubechannel. TY for this nice weekly content !

@pixel2plastic832 3 года назад

For some reason the intros remind me a lot of Home Improvement , in the best way of course😅

@garylee4315 3 года назад

Ruh

@daeds.paints 2 года назад

Joyful to know they are good to go! I just started on my way to assemble my M41 1/35 tank and you gave me the last knock to use the humungous craft paint collection I have from my other hobby. Greetings!