Crash Bandicoot's Mobile Nitro Kart Nightmare (iOS/Java/Zeebo) | DELISTED | SSFF 

tl;dw: Hey I’m Derek Derek! So did you know Vivendi Universal made a game called Crash Nitro Kart 2, which is completely different from Crash BANDICOOT Nitro Kart 2, which is a sequel to Crash Bandicoot Nitro Kart 3D, which btw has more in common with Crash Tag Team Racing. Crash Nitro Kart already had a cell phone port on the N-Gage that was shockingly good despite being the N-Gage, but it sold waaaay less than any of the potato Java Crash Bandicoot games. Also did you know that the Zeebo exists? Thanks for watching! Sorry for the lack of uploads this year. I'm going to have a Game Tour up in a couple of weeks and then some DOOM.

What is it about Crash and people making videos about spinoffs going slowly mental until they want to die

I liked the part where Uncle Derek said “It’s Zeebo Time” and then Zeebo’d all over those games.

"Does that snare drum owe you money??" Oh man, almost choked there.

Tio Derek, you deserve the title of "Mestre Supremo do Zeebo". It has been decided by the Brazilian League of mid 2000's Zeebo users (which includes me and possibly 5 others). Long Live Tio Derek! Vida Longa ao Zeebo! Love your videos xoxo lol

This is the exact amount of information about Crash Kart games I needed.

I'm starting to notice that I've never seen Caddicarus and Crash in the same room at the same time...

I really feel like I need a complete history of Crazy Frog games now.

26:39 "we've officially come back to where we left off" well, it wasn't too long, that tangent only took *pauses video* TWENTY MINUTES??? Never change, Uncle Derek. Never change

This may sound cheesy, but you two are a breath of fresh air among stale, samey content. Your videos always cheer me up on low days :)

Uncle Derrick needs to check out the Civilization 3 port to Java flip phones. It's right up his alley.

I can imagine Derek with a time machine, barging into a meeting where they were coming up with the names for the Crash games, telling them to stop, giving them a list of what the names should be, and apologizing for interrupting before leaving.

Another good contender for Delisted is Prince of Persia: Warrior Within. It was the full game for iPhone and iPod touch, and it featured pretty good controls for touch screen. It's also the only version of the game that lets you throw your secondary weapon during balancing sections. If I can locate my old iPod, I'll see if it still works, and if it does, I can send it for a video (but make no promises that I can find the iPod in the first place).

Theory: Derek hasn't done a tour because he's been self-conscious about his Zeebo shrine. Presumably that's been rectified with the new shelves.

One reason I moved away from Apple was the compatability and delisting issues. Not just games but could be any app, so imagine an important app for your workflow being incompatible, the money just poofs. Android faces delistings all the time too but it's at least possible and easier to load up any APK to see if it'll work on newer versions. Sad thing is companies obviously prefer this and don't have to care if their apps become outdated. Microsofts been trying to do this with Windows since 8, hence Linux with Windows emulation will continue to grow. Companies shouldn't have this much control over our software libraries but best thing we can do is get the software running our way any way we can if possible.

I was thinking of Daddy Caddy through the whole video, so it's rad you mentioned him! Cash Banooka forever!

I distinctly remember a friend of mine ranting about the how convoluted the Crash Nitro Kart releases back in 2010 or so, so thinking about that and having a soft spot for J2ME games in general made this a delight to watch for me. I had no idea CNK3D was on other devices that could be emulated. I want to see where I can find that game.

"Delisted" is easily my favorite SSFF show. And you have plenty of material to work with! 😅…😖

I realize it’s very niche, but there’s a delisted iOS port of the first Shin Megami Tensei game, and that is currently the only official way to play that game in English. Thank you so much for the video! I would never have realized that there is that many Crash racers for mobile, doubly so for being lost to time. I remember playing Tag Team a couple of times at my cousin’s house but that’s my entire experience with That Infernal Bandicoot.

Nice video! I liked all the little bits of wordplay (honest-to-AkuAku, rubberband-icoot-ing, pizza resistance) that were just dropped in and allowed to be funny without drawing attention to them.

"It's Zeebo Time" is now Derek's morphing call.

When both Caddy AND Uncle Derrick zero in on the same idea, you know that it's got legs!

Just wanna say, your new set up is looking very clean!

pretty sure the song that starts at 34:04 is just a reworked version of the soundtrack from Twinsanity, the first level on the island I think!

Fun thing that happened to me recently: I was at half priced books last week and while I was browsing I heard the girl behind the offer counter ask her coworker what an n-gage was and nearly died on the spot. Apparently someone had a couple games in with the books they were selling. Unfortunately I was not able to stick around to see the madman selling n-gage games to half priced books, but the moment will haunt me forever.

15:23 I love when J2me appears in this show! Thanks derek 🙏

Activision _really_ gotta fix that gas leak.

Now that you mentioned the Nintendo DS, did you know that Crash Tag Team Racing was meant to have a DS port as well? There's actual pictures of what the project could have been if it wasn't canceled, probably because Vivendi chickened out of the competition with Mario Kart DS at some point.

Between Uncle Derek and Caddy I am overloaded with Bandicoot... and I love it.

Only uncle Derek could make me care THIS MUCH about crash bandicoot racing nitro 3d tag team

You know this is an SSFF video when the Zeebo is brought up

12:31 We don't speak of Crazy Frog! Getting 'nam flashbacks to those insanely annoying adverts 🐸 Amazing mammoth vid, Derek!

A delisted of the Sony Xperia Play would be really interesting!

Derek yelling "and they thought they'd get away with it?!" caused me to break a dish in a fit of laughter. So long, wedding present dinner plate, you will be missed.

I think you meant Cash banooka that’s his name now

I would be mad that this ended up being another Zeebo video if the Zeebo wasn't so fuckin glorious

Too bad this video wasn’t released yesterday, it would’ve been the 5th anniversary of the crash iOS racing games’ delisting

Great video guys. Looks like Uncle Derek's been hitting the weights 💪

This is like a bizarre revival of the AVGN's Chronologically Confused series. And I'm ABSOLUTELY here for it.

Love this channel so much. Derek's infectious enthusiasm makes these videos such fun to watch.

never knew these games existed until one of NK3D's original characters showed up in the excellent Crash Team Racing: Nitro Fueled

That somber piano cover of the Crash theme at the end there...

Sir, this is outstanding content. Thank you for all your efforts on this. It's not just a report, it's a documentary. I have shared it with others. All good wishes!

Couldn't help but say out loud "Good games are great, cause they're good!" a few moments this video lol

This always shocks me, as a physical Collector and Gamer. Games that vanish after a few years, yet you still can play Super Mario Bros on NES, using an original Cartridge. I know emulation is a thing and it's a reason to be there, but how scary the digital market is, if something happen with the Game. (even more scarier are cloud only versions of Games, that will die out if it's not selling well)

"Only one more zeebo video, we swear." I'm glad that wasn't true, lol.

Finally quality content is here 💯

I lol’d for a good minute straight at the animal snare drum joke

The sheer amount of lost games from the IOS store purges is kinda depressing, I hope emulation gets to that part of mobile history at some point. At least Java and Symbian are getting some love when it comes to preservation.

I want that crash intro with the crazy music played on loop for eternity! I'm gonna make sure my grandkids put a rose on your grave and light a candle each year for your service to documenting this junk. It's a shame there's no source code for the good games to be ported.

its hilarious that most of these ports ended up selling well. i remember getting the ios nitro kart port and thinking "of all IPs, why crash? why hasnt nintendo put mario kart on ios?" guess it shows that a big part of successfully selling a game is being in the right place at the right time.

Love your videos! Ever thought about doing a video on the old Prince of Persia mobile games? There's a bunch, from the the Java phone days right up to old iOS.

Oh my god, that slow and sad rendition of the Crash Bandicoot theme is great.

Man even my parents had that Crash Bandicoot port for iPhone back in the day, I'm not surprised it's the #1 download haha.

>did you know that they made a crazy frog racing game? wait, so you're telling me crazy frog starred in non-racing games too? i mean, of course they did, but i can't name any from the top of my head.

Appreciating the love for the retro HVGN lately. First the cringe years video and now a reappropriation of the Nightshade punch.

Always good to see people doing videos about the confusing world of Crash Racing mobile names.

I feel like a mini-Delisted episode on the Scott Pilgrim game would be a nice full circle for Derek "The Happy Video Game (Clash at Demonhead) Nerd" Alexander.

Thank you for digging out all these versions and showing them to us! You're one of the very few channels who give any regard to pre-iPhone mobile gaming (the only portable gaming in my broke teen years), and your coverages were great so far! I really appreciate that! I have some objections though. 1. At 16:29, you're telling that the first Crash Bandicoot Java kart game is what the mobile games were at the time. That tells me that you weren't much into mobile games at the time :) Just google up the gameplay of Asphalt: Urban GT 2, the 2D Java version specifically. The speed, the challenge, and the stupid fun of crashing your opponents against the wall in lots of game modes and locations are just pure joy and awesomeness! Even a simplistic, but popular Atomic Underground was much more smooth and dynamic than these Java Crash kart games. 2. At 19:34, you compare the last Java game with a Symbian one and point at the technological progress as a cause of the latter game looking much better. This is not much due to better technology, but due to Java 2 ME's virtual machine being a slow limited crap. This is why the performances of J2ME games were bad, and audio was so poor - nothing could be done about that. But, unlike Java, Symbian apps run natively and have full access to the phone's hardware, just like iOS apps or any computer/console programs do. There were also hacks for some older phones (Siemenses, Sony Ericssons and certain Motorolas) that enabled the possibility to run native apps, and the results were often astonishing. For example there was SieDoom, a version of Doom that ran completely fine on a Siemens phone from 2004. 3. You said a couple of times about the "pre-smartphone era" and that the Crash iPhone games were in the beginnings of that era... That's not true, as _popular_ smartphones date way back to Nokia 7650, which was way before iPhone. What defines a smartphone isn't the presence of a touchscreen and social apps, but the ability to run native apps, with multitasking, filesystem access, background operation and other things that any full-featured OS should have. Aside from smartphones (which usually had no touchscreen actually), there were also larger devices, with a resistive touchscreen and a stylus, often running Windows Mobile - those were called PDAs or portable PCs, and those that also had cellular capabilities were called communicators. There were also regular "dumb" phones, that evolved into feature phones, which had multimedia capabilites and Internet access. The first iPhone wasn't even a smartphone, because the iPhone OS 1.0 lacked even the very basic features, like third-party app support and multitasking, and gained a (very limited) filesystem access only in iOS 11. A Nokia N95 was much more "smart" than those first iPhones :) _Edits: grammar and readability fixes_

Good lord, I didn't realized mobile games could go into such deep rabbit holes. Thanks, uncle Derek!

hahah that was great-- Derek losing his mind of the naming scheme was very entertaining ^_^

I remember watching Leo Laporte's review show where he introduced the very first iPhone and his disappointment that "there are no games on the iPhone, it would be so great if we could play games on it!"

Thank you so much!! Whenever you release a video absolutely makes my day ☺️

Man this Zeebo stuff is almost like getting Rick Rolled at this point. I'm just sitting here enjoying what I think is a mobile Crash racer video then BOOM Zeebo.

Stuff like this makes me appreciate that Sega Forever thing they were doing, if I remember right they brought back Afterburner Climax to mobile after it had been delisted on all platforms for years

My first job was coding J2ME games for Gameloft. The limitations really were astounding. You had to make sure the game never required two buttons to be pressed at the same time, since some phones just didn’t support that.

I think Uncle Derek's ad reads are literally the first time I've ever NOT skipped an ad read. I can't get enough of his positive vibes and personality. I'm buying some of that Cometeer coffee too. We need more Uncle Derek in this world. I really mean that. WE BE VIBIN' LIKE UNCLE DEREK OVER HERE, SON!

I was able to play the first IOS CNK on my dad's old Iphone ages ago, it was alright. Amazed how it suddenly became so rare just a few years later after it got delisted. Shootouts to all people preserving those older apps regardless of quality.

Daddy Caddy and Uncle Derek, brothers in arms

So nostalgic. I remember having a jailbroken iPhone and being willing to update to 2.0 for the appstore.

I'm honestly kinda happy to see this getting some coverage; Crash Bandicoot Nitro Kart 3D 2 was certainly a personal favorite on iOS... and despite being delisted it's still on my account and playable on anything old enough which has been fun to go back to

I cannot believe I'm 3 days late to this video. And I also cannot believe you haven't stumbled onto the wild world of legacy iOS jailbreaking yet. There are big communities separately exploring and preserving the tools, tweaks and mods that made iPhones really neat and fascinating in the early 2010s, and preserving apps and games for the 32-bit era of iOS. One of my all-time favorite mobile games, geoDefense, and its sequel, geoDefense Swarm, was part of the app delisting of 2017. The app preservation community has that and several thousands more iOS games backed up and ready to go. Really now, more work needs to go into emulating iOS to make this software actually practically playable. But if you've got an old iPhone or iPod lying around, and hopefully didn't update it to iOS 8 (remember, that was the beginning of the end!) then you've got a device ready for a big jailbreak and lots of games to get into. My iPhone also doubles as an iPod loaded with vaporwave goodness, but that's just me :)

I LOVED this game on my Nokia smartphone running Symbian back in the day. A lot of people (especially in the US where feature phones were the market leaders) criminally underestimate the contributions of Symbian, especially on Nokia devices, to the notion of what a smartphone should be. Apple perfected the formula with the capacitive touch screen rectangle form factor. I might be mixing it up with the ios version buy if my memory is not failing me I think there was an option for motion controls but on Nokia's late 2000s two-way slider phones the "music contol / gaming" buttons which are revealed when sliding the phone open in the opposite direction of the numpad in landscape mode offered a much more traditional gaming layout. Think GBA advance but with the d pad on the right and the face buttons on the left.

For the fact that you covered all these games, did an evidence board tracking the horrible naming conventions of these games, and DIDN'T giggle when you said the word "skidmarks".... I applaud you, Uncle Derek. You're the hero we need.

This is was great, Derek! Keep up with the good work! Also I love when you use the Tomba! soundtrack somewhere in your videos.

Dude, you're awesome. I love the care you have for all games, even mobile games that people overlook and don't think/really care about. Your dedication to highlighting game preservation, even for games not considered "good", is really inspiring. I've watched your channel for a long time and I'm a patron too because I really love your videos and the research you do, and I just wanted to let you know how appreciated and loved your work is. Love y'all

Yay, new video from Uncle Derek! Thanks for making the workday much better!

That Crash Bandicoot bulletin board is the distillation of SSFF's entire philosophy. Also, that melancholy Crash theme towards the end of the video was pure nirvana.

You two are truly doing the gaming god's work. Thank you Grace, thank you Derek, wishing you both an amazing holiday and wonderful 2023!

Ahh, phones with Java games... how oddly nostalgic, despite unsurprisingly the Game Boy Advance and later the DS were leagues better than what Java could do at the time. You were better off with puzzle games like Tetris... or Snake.

I’ve been waiting. I’ve been excited. My expectations have been thoroughly exceeded! Wonderful video! 😁

Looking great dude! Keep up the work!

All you gotta here is "HIIMDEREK ITSMEDEREK" and you know it's gonna be a banger.

I would never look into this game but I will watch the entire video from start to finish just because I can listen to Uncle Derek rant for hours. I always look forward to your uploads showing up on my page. Great work as always. Keep doing all the things.

another awesome video i remember playing nitro kart on my old ipod touch when i was a kid. everyone should listen to barin ruins from the japanese version of the gba nitro kart that song is so good they went hard on it

It's pretty cool that Uncle Derek has found a way to make a whole ass living out of collecting the dumbest video game paraphernalia

Awesome video! I've been waiting for someone to do a video covering these games. Always wondered what they were about...

This was completely amazing, Derek!

Ya know how food can sometimes look supernaturally delicious, when filmed? I feel that way about the original GBA, when I see real hands holding and playing one. Just an unimaginably fun console. Chef's kiss.

This was an awesome video!! I love your content. You guys are great.

The Crash Bandicoot Mobile Racers live on in spirit through CTR Nitro Fueled, which added Yaya Panda in one of the Grand Prix free updates, meaning that these games, however minor, did leave their mark on the franchise and it's fans.

Nothing makes my day better than a new SSFF video

Man, I remember when I was a kid and I bugged my dad for a few weeks to let me buy Crash Racing 3D. Speaking of this era of mobile gaming, I think another game worth a look is DOOM iOS and the legal battle between Carmack and Bethesda, which eventually led to the Unity version of classic DOOM we have nowadays on mobile and PC.

Would really love an iOS emulator, absolutely insane how many historical games are essentially lost to history.

Ayyy java games, love how you went through the extra effort to bring these hidden parts of the koots history to the masses. Great video

20:30 OH my God! I completely forgot about that animation until I saw this video! To me it was fine, I thought they were showing off how capable phones are at the time. You can actually connect that to the TV with A/V cable connecting to the headphone jack, in LANDSCAPE mode (my phone has it at least). Yeah, I played that on one of the *N-Gage 2.0 capable Nokia phone.*

Why do I love that dead eyed 3d crash model deeply?

Love you guys, missed your content but you always deliver great videos ❤️

Wow! I remember playing the ios crash game on my dads ipod when i was like, 5 or 6. Monkey Ball too! I figured it’d been delisted after all this time. Honestly, based on the footage, it looks better than i remember it being. Super interesting just how many ports, or “ports” it had. Loving the videos you make on these old delisted ios games. edit: also, I had no idea there were two crash racing games on xbox! I thought it was just Nitro. I knew we had a crash racing game on xbox growing up, but I thought it must’ve been Nitro up until seeing this video. I’m pretty sure we had tag team racing, but I’d have to ask my sister. We got rid of it when our xbox died and it wasn’t supported under xbox 360 backwards compatibility. Man, your videos always take me back!

Love how he went from a happy video game nerd (clone) To now being chronologically confused james Next your telling me he gonna do monster madness next