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The next generation synchronous superconducting motors have arrived. With a proclaimed 99.9% efficiency, will it replace conventional designs?
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@ChrisWilson999
@ChrisWilson999 10 месяцев назад
New claim of room temperature super conductor has been made. LK-99
@Tech_Planet
@Tech_Planet 10 месяцев назад
Yes, let's follow this closely! Seems to display Meisner effect but I'm skeptical of it (like previous debunked claims). If it's true then it's revolutionary.
@ChrisWilson999
@ChrisWilson999 10 месяцев назад
@@Tech_Planet Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. That being said, I want a go cart with an super conducting electric motor.
@gregandark8571
@gregandark8571 9 месяцев назад
@@ChrisWilson999 Today is Aug 8 2023 and LK-99 was debunked.
@gordonwalter4293
@gordonwalter4293 Год назад
I worked on superconductors in the 60's. 8 degrees absolute was the best we had. ~80 degrees absolute today impresses me. Don't expect room temperature this century.
@capitalistdingo
@capitalistdingo Год назад
Some of the new ones seem to trade cold temperatures for unbelievably, crushingly high pressures. Still not practical for most applications but interesting.
@dreugh424
@dreugh424 Год назад
Currently we must choose. Crazy pressurized at room temp, or supercooled at atmospheric pressure.
@BienestarMutuo
@BienestarMutuo Год назад
There is super conductors at room temperature from like 50 years ago, but they are reserved for military uses. the principal idea to understand is that materials dynamic behavior can be very different that the material static.
@sssbob
@sssbob Год назад
Bucky tubes.
@thesearchforterrestrialint7795
advanced robotics machine learning applied to materials science research, id be surprised if they didnt find a room temperature superconductor before Jesus returns in about 15 years.
@mathew00
@mathew00 Год назад
My husband started watching this but then he got SHOCKED and I had to call the wambulance. Be careful out there!
@kaiwheeler64
@kaiwheeler64 Год назад
Maybe the turbo pump designs in rocket engines can benefit from superconducting electric motors when they can be cooled by the cryogenic fuel?
@normangiven6436
@normangiven6436 Год назад
Turbo pumps are powered by combustion since they have to overcome chamber pressure to get fuel into the engine.
@kaiwheeler64
@kaiwheeler64 Год назад
@@normangiven6436 Check out the Electron.....
@JG-dd8jy
@JG-dd8jy Год назад
At 1:28 Isn't that a CT scanner? You can see the detector array at the bottom (5 fans) and the x-ray tube at the top left
@josephpacchetti5997
@josephpacchetti5997 Год назад
Interesting Video, THX subbed 👍
@nicklaich
@nicklaich Год назад
conventional motors also quite effective (especially on such power) but of course way heavier. but cooling hardware also have weight so not everything are clear.
@horseshoedaddy
@horseshoedaddy Год назад
Big questions... Is it reliable under arduous conditions? Is it's cost within the reach the average consumer? Is it sustainable?
@toofnbad
@toofnbad Год назад
Must have massive torque!
@gfbprojects1071
@gfbprojects1071 Год назад
Sounds encouraging if they can raise the superconducting temp.
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 Год назад
Would be good for a generator rather than a motor. The mechanical to electrical conversion would be over 95%
@Buongona
@Buongona Год назад
nice to see other uses than levitating a magnet. Also 99%efficiencies have been achieved by commercial electric motors long time ago, it's only unheard of by people who don't follow tech.
@reinerfranke5436
@reinerfranke5436 Год назад
I did not know about it. But very high conductivity could mean that the skin-depth with a varing external magnetic field is much smaller. This would increase the inner current density inside the super-conductor and decrease the total rotating current capability. I did not read much about skin-effect in super-condutors, it seams they are for static fields.
@JoeyBlogs007
@JoeyBlogs007 Год назад
The torque potential could destroy the smaller lighter motor when full power potential is applied. ( i.e. due to its lower mass relative to input power ) it would have to be optimised to function within the operational limits of the motor, due to material strength limitations. I guess they've done all that testing, so they know it can work.
@Elltronotube
@Elltronotube Год назад
Will it fit in my 96 Honda Civic?
@MS-th1ck
@MS-th1ck Месяц назад
thats 2682 horsepower
@ralph5476
@ralph5476 Год назад
At anywhere near ~20T, steel cores would be pointless, as they saturate ~1.5T. Additionally, steel would have enormous core losses at ~20T. What do they use? Air cores now?
@circusserpent9466
@circusserpent9466 Год назад
FYI, some lower tesla MRI's use permanent magnets.
@yakut9876
@yakut9876 23 дня назад
Permanent magnets are currently advanced and very useful. I believe that in the future we will rely on permanent magnets instead of energy-consuming electromagnets that produce a lot of heat and electromagnetic pollution.
@nkronert
@nkronert Год назад
Even if this motor is 99% efficient, at 2 MW power output one still needs to remove 20 kW of heat to keep it at the same temperature. That sounds difficult to achieve. But hey, engineers...
@andrewharpin6749
@andrewharpin6749 Год назад
20kw is nothing especially for 2MW, an ICE engine is ~25% efficient, so a 100hp (74.57kw) needs to remove 223kw of heat at full power.
@nkronert
@nkronert Год назад
@@andrewharpin6749 True, but this is at cryogenic temperatures.
@thomasknight-wagener6630
@thomasknight-wagener6630 Год назад
so esxciting... cheers!
@chrisbrooks89
@chrisbrooks89 Год назад
I theorize that with magnetic bearings and magnetic gears we could achieve over 100% efficiency.
@yakut9876
@yakut9876 23 дня назад
I agree with only in the use of permanent magnets ( and not with consumer, inefficient electromagnet ). This is despite the fact that conventional gears and conventional bearings are very efficient, effective, reliable and theirs losses are very few.
@yunodiewtf
@yunodiewtf 7 месяцев назад
Imagine the intensity of a staredown between an ICE driver waiting for his motor to warm up and an superconducting EV driver waiting for his motor to chill
@walterabernathy5663
@walterabernathy5663 10 месяцев назад
One possible use of this. Use high voltage DC for transmission and using the dc to turn this motor generate AC for cities.
@lucassterquino
@lucassterquino 6 месяцев назад
I have worked with a ceramic-type superconductor applied in a dispositive to limit an induction motor starting current. It is incredibly challenging working with these materials. Finding a superconductor material at room temperature and/or developing a manufacturing process for mass production with high-quality levels will be a turning point in society. It will powerfully increase efficiency in energy production, transportation, and computation.
@NineInchTyrone
@NineInchTyrone 2 месяца назад
Dream on
@ReachOutToWilliam
@ReachOutToWilliam Год назад
I am not shocked. What industry was shocked by this well-known, decades old development?
@themogget8808
@themogget8808 3 месяца назад
Room temperatures are not needed for this to be useful. Motors usually already have active cooling systems, so we just need a colder one. The losses and hassle from this cooling will only be offset by the gains in power, materials, and efficiency in very powerful systems. So this would be very unlikely for daily passenger cars. High temperatures in this case means liquid nitrogen. Liquid nitrogen isn't cheap or easy to work with, but neither is jet fuel or steam. Its the classic trade-off : do I just put in a bigger engine, or do I add a turbo and a bottle of NOS? I can imagine racers topping off their nitrogen tank at the welding store just like they do now.
@johngalt7382
@johngalt7382 Год назад
So a 400, or 800lb motor, with 10, or 20 tons of batteries, copper, and cooling equipment, to run it. Genius.... I'm guessing large scale gas turbines, or diesel gennys at the airports to charge the mega ampere batteries?
@davestorm6718
@davestorm6718 Год назад
I don't see where boosting a motor's efficiency another 10% will ever be cost/power effective when cryo equipment must be used to do the cooling. Any size improvements are immediately lost as well.
@Tech_Planet
@Tech_Planet Год назад
True, it would only be good in power generation whre MW of power is being equated.
@physicsbystanprisajny6284
@physicsbystanprisajny6284 Год назад
This happens when a perpetual motion machine spins so fast or something
@draganignjatovic4812
@draganignjatovic4812 8 месяцев назад
What magnetic material can conduit 20T flux?
@michaelnoble2432
@michaelnoble2432 2 месяца назад
99% efficiency isn't "unheard of" (04:10) - it can be achieved with conventional copper and clever motor designs.
@brazenbunnies
@brazenbunnies 9 месяцев назад
Shockingly shocking shocker
@nandodando9695
@nandodando9695 Год назад
What usage would a motor of these specs best suit?
@everettputerbaugh3996
@everettputerbaugh3996 Год назад
There was one under development for the Zumwalt class Destroyers that was not ready when the design was finalized.
@Tech_Planet
@Tech_Planet Год назад
Thats right, ship/aircraft propulsion maybe power generation. Some designs branch off to different motor types with HTS
@TrevorSachko
@TrevorSachko Год назад
Oddly enough, the motor is not crazy and it didn't shock the entire industry.
@supremeflagship8965
@supremeflagship8965 9 месяцев назад
How much more powerful is superconducting motor compared to the same size non-superconducting motor?
@marco8696
@marco8696 6 месяцев назад
10x density power!
@arnabsaha5185
@arnabsaha5185 Год назад
Make a video on quantum generator patent...
@nickoutram6939
@nickoutram6939 10 месяцев назад
If its a motor its also a generator. I think Rolls Royce was working on something like this driven by a turbine to produce around 2-3MW of electric power for longer duration eVTOL aircraft.
@rchobbotic9658
@rchobbotic9658 Год назад
Power plant can use this concept to generate electricity 10 times more in same space
@nelsondoan8271
@nelsondoan8271 Год назад
Rochester, Reddmatter, 20.9 degrees Celsius. Near room temperature superconductors… but I doubt Toshiba is using this, there’s a lot of development required.
@themeek351
@themeek351 Год назад
Does it heat up when under heavy load? Seems cumbersome.
@ChrisWilson999
@ChrisWilson999 10 месяцев назад
No. The 99% efficiency claim means 1% heat of 2MW. That's 20000 watts of heat which would be spread through it's mass. Negligible in other words. To compare that to a 2MW diesel generator, which would make more than 1MW of heat.
@jeremytipton6076
@jeremytipton6076 Год назад
Have I been misinformed? I thought graphene can superconduct at room temperature.
@ericlewis3444
@ericlewis3444 Год назад
"helium, which is a lot more plentiful... well, at least on Earth" wtf? what planets have you been to?
@helicopterdriver
@helicopterdriver Год назад
Considering that there is a finite amount of helium I don't see how this could be sustained if it is required. Liquid nitrogen is not cheap either. 2666 hp would be pretty sweet though.
@THX-vb8yz
@THX-vb8yz Год назад
Cool.....
@silverc4s146
@silverc4s146 Год назад
Interesting. Early. Days for this
@igoromelchenko3482
@igoromelchenko3482 11 месяцев назад
Peculiar...
@richardzeitz54
@richardzeitz54 Год назад
"an over hyped," not "a over hyped."
@incognitotorpedo42
@incognitotorpedo42 Год назад
Probably not going to be in a car unless high temperature superconductors manage to be found.
@billboyd4051
@billboyd4051 Год назад
The high frequency brushless motor is very efficient in Tesla's, batteries are not far off from 500+mile range.
@anonymous12345678935
@anonymous12345678935 Год назад
Why would a car need a 2600 HP motor? Maybe I should watch the video...
@davidconner-shover51
@davidconner-shover51 Год назад
@@anonymous12345678935 because its cooling system weighs so much more than the motor
@muzycznarozmowa
@muzycznarozmowa Год назад
I thought it was a bicycle motor ;-)
@christopherblare6414
@christopherblare6414 Год назад
I think it has insane military use. On a missele per chance? Just load it up with liquid helium in a tank. Give it autogenous pressure and boom! Literally. It just has to keep the thing cool long enough. Maybe I'm just not being creative enough but until the technology matures significantly I don't see a lot of civilian uses.
@dreugh424
@dreugh424 Год назад
Sure, but we have plenty of things that carry our stuff that goes boom. How do we justify the use of helium for this application? For something that will go boom anyways?
@christopherblare6414
@christopherblare6414 Год назад
@@dreugh424 I think that's it, war is like the only thing where you could justify it. In any other situation it wouldn't be economic. But it still makes sense to blow up a 10 million dollar missile if it takes a 100 million dollar jet or whatever. That's setting aside the non-renewability of helium, which I feel makes the "so wasteful it only makes sense in war" argument stronger.
@anosvoldigord4075
@anosvoldigord4075 Год назад
Probably pulse tube cooled
@inspectorsteve2287
@inspectorsteve2287 Год назад
How do electric motors gain torque? More current or more coils or something else?
@billboyd4051
@billboyd4051 Год назад
Reduction gears, large diameter, amps, more turns of wire for lower RPM or fewer heavier turns for higher RPM, and overall power. Bigger is better but heavier.
@inspectorsteve2287
@inspectorsteve2287 Год назад
@@billboyd4051 cool thanks I was always curious about that.
@billboyd4051
@billboyd4051 Год назад
@@inspectorsteve2287 I fly RC planes where torque lets you spin a larger prop to go vertical, but at a slower speed.
@inspectorsteve2287
@inspectorsteve2287 Год назад
@@billboyd4051 that's cool. My uncle used to build rc planes out of wood. Like in a kit. He was always in his woodshop sanding and glueing stuff together. We would go out and fly them. Well he would I wasn't allowed to fly it. Lol. Probably was a good idea.
@The0ldg0at
@The0ldg0at Год назад
The wires are super conducting so they don't lose part of the electric energy in heat. But how do we keep the environment heat reaching the wires? Simple we cool it with super cold helium. But how do we take out the heat from the helium to trow it back to the environment? Easy we use very energy inneficient cooling systems like a refrigerator. So what happens to the total energy we use to make the whole system work? It's not in the paper. Everytime I hear about new breaking ground technology that don't mention the overall energy efficiency of the whole system, I know it's a marketing scheme looking for 'free money' to finance the R$D of some project. This has been going on for decades with the nuclear fusion (potential) industry.
@alen7492
@alen7492 Год назад
More positive thinking would be: How many people got inspired by those videos.
@Tech_Planet
@Tech_Planet Год назад
This a good point and tbh I think that we need to find a room temp superconducting material without immense pressure being applied to it.
@s1ider
@s1ider 11 месяцев назад
So, I had an idea about how cool it would be to have the opposite of a microwave beam. Heh, I said "Cool' idea", because that's what it would do. to COOL , rather to radiate. Almost timing the radiation to radiate against the materials natural vibration. If you are reading this and can achieve this idea, DO IT. Design it and get it done.
@ag135i
@ag135i Год назад
Awesome video, induction motors are better than BLDC motors because induction motors requires less fancy sensors and chips they to change poles with AC current plus there's no risk of demagnetising the permanent magnets, copper windings on steel core are best.
@billboyd4051
@billboyd4051 Год назад
Induction motors sync to the AC frequency, BLDC motors are actually AC variable high frequency 8000 or higher CPS, variable speed, and sense position without sensors now through RMF pulse and can vary timing through the processor, to provide torque at low RPM or high. Neo magnets provide extra power, and last many years if kept cooled below 130 f or so.
@ag135i
@ag135i Год назад
@@billboyd4051 thanks for the information bro.
@chasx7062
@chasx7062 4 месяца назад
Toshiba is going broke, and getting sold...They still have some assets or is it PR?
@Semmster
@Semmster Год назад
I've developed a distinct🤬 dislike for these things that 'SHOCKS Entire Industry'. I nearly blocked the channel for that. If I didn't also like actual information that I can make sense of...
@kirangouds
@kirangouds 2 месяца назад
So true
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx 4 месяца назад
Megawatt scale electric motors using superconducting coils are not a new thing. The US navy has been chasing this for decades to the purpose of electrifying its destroyer fleet and increasing its efficiency.
@hogofwar0
@hogofwar0 Год назад
prob marketing, see some real footage of it working 1st
@user-xz3xf6bc8o
@user-xz3xf6bc8o Год назад
Few hundred kilos!? That's basically a truck engine but 5-6 times more powerful!
@esahg5421
@esahg5421 Год назад
liquid helium cooled ac motor, that compresses and pumps liquid helium.
@bozidarskobalj3166
@bozidarskobalj3166 Год назад
cooling gas gens is good model reminds on airplane engine and nuclear salt reactor type cooling weight lose is ok if price in production large is resumble what if air turbine air cooler aditionaly added on gens like tesla has this part such as eficent airstream airgliding acc to swuush electric sound and then is even faster and air cooled and nitrogen too
@jtjames79
@jtjames79 Год назад
I follow a guy on RU-vid making a multiple stage phase-change cooler, trying to get liquid nitrogen. Always wondered if you could get a turbo boost by temporarily making the motor superconductive. Just hit it with a blast of liquid nitrogen. Assuming that doesn't just make things explode. That would be funny too. No discovery without experimentation.
@ACE-gk5gi
@ACE-gk5gi Год назад
0 I'm sure it works,, but that's in a lab....no money was spared for a one off ,,very clean cut electric motor..that makes your jaw drop..NOW..the problem is ..to the masses = very expensive..to scale down all that wonderful cooling system from a room/lab into a tight compact car/train/plane/boat = very expensive..safety in those mediums- test after test years after years = expensive and a little to late..I'm sure the real science is [ NEED IS NOW - and that the masses can afford such a great motor ..and the safety box is ticked ] ya goofy m8te from Australia
@THEScottCampbell
@THEScottCampbell Год назад
"A over-hyped..."? AN over-hyped??? Skipped Fifth Grade?
@franciscorompana2985
@franciscorompana2985 Год назад
Elon Musk was here. He is now calling TOSHIBA 🇯🇵
@brianmckeever5280
@brianmckeever5280 Год назад
I think I am unqualified to speak on this topic ;-)
@Max_Jacoby
@Max_Jacoby Год назад
First time in Internet, huh? 😁
@brianmckeever5280
@brianmckeever5280 Год назад
@@Max_Jacoby 🤣
@truethought369
@truethought369 11 месяцев назад
I think this motor could be very useful as a thrust drive, for changing direction of space craft, or even powering it.
@Zodliness
@Zodliness Год назад
At 01:58 - How does one cool something to an extreme temperature? I think he meant to say 'extremely low' temperature. I'm no physicist, so who am I to argue.
@StormGod29
@StormGod29 Год назад
There is nothing wrong with saying "they have to be cooled to a very extreme temperature". A few degrees above absolute zero is an extreme temperature. Likewise, fusion plasma of 150,000,000K is also a very extreme temperature. 4K is more extreme than 150,000,000 since it is within 4 degrees of the end of the temperature scale but 150,000,000 is still infinity degrees from the other end of the temperature scale.
@Sekir80
@Sekir80 Год назад
Not impressed. Even a puny Tesla motor has higher specific power than this. 1/4th of the power but in 35-40 kg? It seems the cooling of this motor requires a lot of hardware.
@krprock4802
@krprock4802 Год назад
A waste of time, axial electric motors are superior to radial ones, a priori
@Tech_Planet
@Tech_Planet Год назад
There are a couple of axial flux HTS designs out there but a lot of challenges.
@krprock4802
@krprock4802 Год назад
@@Tech_Planet They have no problems, all childhood diseases have been eliminated. Axial motors are already certified for aviation, which indicates their high quality. And the latest scientific achievements, I think you don’t know about it yet, allow you to reduce heat loss by up to 70%. What is unattainable for radial technology.
@lofasz_joska
@lofasz_joska Год назад
now, this title made me unsubscribe.....
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