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Creality K1C - Flagship Carbon Fiber Printer 

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Word Salad. In this video I will see how the K1 Max compares to the P1P. K1 Max vs K1. Creality K1 Max vs Bambu Lab P1S P1P X1C AMS Combo Ender 5 S1 3D printer review Testing
Time Codes
0:00 Unboxing
2:40 K1 vs K1C
3:18 Stepper Motor Change
3:53 Extruder Latch
4:41 Build Plate Nozzle Wiper
5:11 UncleJesseyProof Hinge
5:37 Cable Chain Change
7:20 Power Up
8:38 What the C stands for
9:52 Initial Setup
11:34 First Tests
15:40 Web Browser Interface
19:04 Sound Level testing
21:51 Benchy Finished
22:29 Additional Print Tests
25:24 Print Time Lapse 1
26:48 PETG VFA Test Prints
30:20 Print Time Lapse 2
31:41 PA-CF Heat Creep Jam
34:00 Unicorn Annihilation
35:30 MicroSwiss FlowTech Hotend
37:03 Hotend Teardown
38:59 Ceramic Hotend Spacers
41:29 Obstructed Fan
43:25 The C is a Lie
45:15 Final Thoughts
47:57 Why CF Nylon is the only thing that matters
49:15 K1 vs K1C Discussion
53:04 The Nozzle Issue
55:17 Final Observations
56:35 What the K1 series does well
57:44 Improved Print Profiles for Creality Print and OrcaSlicer
Improved K1 Print Profiles for Creality Print and OrcaSlicer (Fixed VFAs): / improved-k1-97125971

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@jjlee196
@jjlee196 5 месяцев назад
I didn't realize how much I missed your videos until the uploads paused. Welcome back good sir.
@rhotix403
@rhotix403 5 месяцев назад
That honest review was really a good one. No signs of hiding something or showing just the good sides. Keep that good work up👍
@baddan
@baddan 5 месяцев назад
The most honest 3d printer review on youtube! Keep up the good work! Greetings from Brazil
@martinjanezic8504
@martinjanezic8504 3 месяца назад
Hey! thank you for this review, just ordered mine yesterday as an upgrade for a 3 year old ender 3 pro. I think I really needed a change and this looked like a good fit for my needs. You gave me some hope and excitement for when I eventually get it some time soon!
@ygk3d
@ygk3d 5 месяцев назад
I was just thinking I hadn't seen anything new from you in a while. Welcome back!
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@frankvsupermacalite
@frankvsupermacalite 5 месяцев назад
Glad you're back chill homie 😊
@abotolo
@abotolo 5 месяцев назад
Oh finally a new video from my favorite 3D printing influencer.
@Horsenb
@Horsenb 5 месяцев назад
I think I speak for everyone when I say. Thank god your safe... a few of us thought Bambu got to you after the last video😅
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
Actually, they did get me. I have been re-educated. This is Nathan's pro-bambu replacement clone.
@synonymdonut
@synonymdonut 5 месяцев назад
Fr
@Horsenb
@Horsenb 5 месяцев назад
They would probably feed me to a Panda if the had to re educate me .
@Ace-dh5lz
@Ace-dh5lz 5 месяцев назад
​@@NathanBuildsRobots Bambu Builds Robots lol
@platinumlawnservice
@platinumlawnservice 5 месяцев назад
Still waiting for multicolor. Any updates?
@megafonmann
@megafonmann 5 месяцев назад
That editing at around 13:10 got me, love it!
@igorchyk09
@igorchyk09 3 месяца назад
Thank you for so detailed and helpful review!
@tfb12345
@tfb12345 5 месяцев назад
Ruthless like always. Keep up the good work👌.
@cynic5581
@cynic5581 5 месяцев назад
Easiest way to induce heat creep is not letting the fan cool off the hotend completely after a print. New filament isn’t coming in so old filament is cooking while the heater temps are transferring directly up into the heat sink due to the fan not being on to dissipate the heat. Do this enough times and your eventually if not immediately get a clog. I point out something so obvious because you do that at least once in this video ( 21:35 ). I was even thinking “he’s gonna clog that nozzle not letting the hot end cool off”.
@boggisthecat
@boggisthecat 5 месяцев назад
Yes, that is an issue. If you power down before it has cooled then you’ll have a nice surprise to take up some time and possibly spare parts when you switch it back on. When you have a super-reliable machine that never requires power-cycling to escape weird intractable errors then this wouldn’t be as annoying. My AMS unit is cursed, though, so no such luck. 😾 (Did manage 19 hours of a 20 hour print yesterday / this morning, though. So I guess that 95% reliability now. Winding the filament in, stops at print-head, thinks a bit, winds back out, repeats about five times, then claims there is a blockage. Pull filament entirely, pull power from AMS then reapply, load filament, and it now works. I had about eight of these over 60 layers, so a nice semi-random problem.)
@420247paul
@420247paul 5 месяцев назад
no buddy i see what you are saying but that is not heat creep.
@terrylyn
@terrylyn 3 месяца назад
I remember buying X2 after watching your thorough review and it has served me well, lets see if I can resist getting this one.
@jonroth6981
@jonroth6981 5 месяцев назад
OMG he is back!!
@m3chanist
@m3chanist 2 месяца назад
I'm printing a lot of CF-PLA on mine, and it's working flawlessly, an ancient roll of Proto-pasta, the original formulation, brittle as hell. Taking the reverse Bowden out of the cable chain is essential, added hinged risers for the lid to give it plenty of clearance.
@UncleJessy
@UncleJessy 5 месяцев назад
A new hinge!!
@alfredanil
@alfredanil 5 месяцев назад
Uncle Jessy proof hinge 🤣🤣🤣
@boggisthecat
@boggisthecat 5 месяцев назад
Did you get your consultancy fee?
@3dpathfinder
@3dpathfinder 5 месяцев назад
Hey there he is, Congratz on the K1C
@DifferentAverage
@DifferentAverage 5 месяцев назад
For clogged nozzles I use a cheap rework station instead of a torch to avoid degrading the nozzle/heat-break. When used with the metal NoClogger (available on amazon) there's essentially no clog you cant remedy. Hope that helps in the future, & great vid!
@toastermon2272
@toastermon2272 2 месяца назад
I had a similarly bad clog on my K1C 1 week into owning it, spare nozzles are also not available (probably for months), so I just turned off all the fans, turned the hotend all the way up and after waiting a couple of minutes to heatsoak the entire nozzle assembly I could just push the clog out the top with an old guitar string. The whole extruder and nozzle construction is solid and pretty easily serviceable if you know what you're doing.
@AndyRC
@AndyRC 5 месяцев назад
I have a k1 and I do like it. I fixed most of the small issues and also have it rooted and running stock klipper and fluidd now. I was excited for the new hot end but now am on the fence. I would say the best way to print carbon fiber nylon , petg etc is to use a 0.6mm nozzle. I had issues with heat creep and the nozzle getting plugged up when printing cf material. The only one I had no issues with was cf PLA when using a 0.4mm nozzle.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
That's probably why they sent me a spool of CF-PLA. I'm going off script with possibly predictable results?
@eggbag4182
@eggbag4182 5 месяцев назад
They should release a stripped down version called the S1P and then make a better version of that and call it the S1S
@MichaelDeeterIA
@MichaelDeeterIA 5 месяцев назад
You open browser tabs (23:12) makes me feel so happy.
@squirralien1863
@squirralien1863 5 месяцев назад
The filament tube needs to come out of the cable chain to relieve that sharp angle. great video thanks,
@boggisthecat
@boggisthecat 5 месяцев назад
I did exactly that with my Bambu Lab P1S. I used kapton tape to build up the Bowden tube for a good fit to the guide-ring section at the top of the head. Tried a couple of printed ‘guides’ for the Bowden, but they weren’t that successful.
@almirantecarvalho
@almirantecarvalho 5 месяцев назад
Damn, the title alone is brutal. Can't wait to watch it.
@OneHappyCrazyPerson
@OneHappyCrazyPerson 5 месяцев назад
Finally your back, yes! We can use you way better at creality k1 line critics. Actuall change is posible!
@Reza1984_
@Reza1984_ 5 месяцев назад
C stands for Customer feedback revision! As Creality loves to substitute user testing and feedback part of the product design cycle with a new revision after a few months.
@dond5870
@dond5870 5 месяцев назад
Nathan, you look more like a scientist than an engineer.
@NoizieWorks
@NoizieWorks 5 месяцев назад
Probably already being said but remove the bowden tube out of the chain and you can even print carbon nylon out of the regular K1 series (with a nozzle change) i made a vid about it using the bondtech nozzles. Alround a well needed update, thanks for sharing!
@stuarthelliwell6784
@stuarthelliwell6784 2 месяца назад
If you have a look at the settings on the homepage of the touchscreen you have the option to adjust the fans either on and off or percentages of that,, I recently bought a k1 and it's very similar to the k1c
@MrAlan1828
@MrAlan1828 26 дней назад
the new batch of K1's come with rubber feet WOW! externally now look like twins
@3dpathfinder
@3dpathfinder 5 месяцев назад
I took my ptfe tube out of the closes holder on the cable chain to the print head in order to give it a easy bend into the extruder
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
yeah I would definitely do that for this printer, especially when printing stiff filaments
@davidlapes2751
@davidlapes2751 5 месяцев назад
Could also print a former to limit the radius of the curve into the extruder
@JingleStic
@JingleStic 3 месяца назад
Got mine in today. already 6 prints on it. All were great hyper pla prints. Only complaint is they lip needs to be higher (already found a riser to print) and I agree on the bowden tube. Overall very happy with it for only $549 us
@JohnDoe-mg7ht
@JohnDoe-mg7ht 5 месяцев назад
Love the Erev Shel Shoshanim background music...
@slickpuller8801
@slickpuller8801 4 месяца назад
I see ur having fun wit the table😂
@KennethScharf
@KennethScharf 5 месяцев назад
Sound can't escape through very small gaps due to "wave guide beyond cutoff". That is if the opening is much smaller than the wavelength of the sound, the sound won't propagate through the opening. So high frequency noise might escape, but low frequency noise won't.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
That is cool! I didn't know that. I guess what I'm noticing is the higher frequency hissing noises and possibly stepper motor ringing leaking out through the smaller gaps. A lot of mechanical noises is they are a broad spectrum noises, so it's a combination of lower and higher frequencies.
@KennethScharf
@KennethScharf 5 месяцев назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots The term "wave guide beyond cutoff" actually refers to microwave electromagnetic waves, it's the reason why the microwaves can't go though the door of your microwave oven, thanks to the metal mesh in the glass. The same principle also applies to sound. Anyone building a ported speaker cabinet will run into this when sizing the port opening.
@oldman1944
@oldman1944 5 месяцев назад
Funny that the first selling point in their ad is "CLOG FREE All-metal Extruder Kit".....
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
In my best Project Farm voice: We're gonna test that!
@theVariedLife
@theVariedLife 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video. BTW are you planning to review when the FLSUN S1 and T1 comes out?
@mytuberforyou
@mytuberforyou 5 месяцев назад
I think what causes your "VFA" is slicing from a STL (point cloud model) where arcs are basically polylines, and I think the print head is doing accel/decel at each line segment when cornering and therefore extruding more near the intersection. I would try feeding a Gcode file that uses geometeric arc interpolation (G02, G03) and see if the problem goes away.
@reyalPRON
@reyalPRON 5 месяцев назад
exclude is cool. its on my bambu as well :) them be alot of tabs open there buddy ;) also u should print some jaw grips for ur vice. metal on metal leaves marks.
@andreas.grundler
@andreas.grundler 5 месяцев назад
So it definitely needs a better filament sensor that not only checks for the presence of filament but also whether it is still moving.
@_SHaDoW6_
@_SHaDoW6_ 5 месяцев назад
You can reduce the speed of the fans in the slicer, I have my side blower fan at 40% max so it never sounds like a jet engine.
@NavySturmGewehr
@NavySturmGewehr 5 месяцев назад
It's too bad you had issues with the nozzle. I was hoping you'd cover printing ASA or ABS with it. I've been printing a lot of ASA in my K1. I wrap it in blankets and use the bed to bring the internal temperature up to 50°C, then as it's printing it slowly creeps up to 60°C and I get beautiful ASA prints. However, the heat brake fan will fail at those temps.
@Liberty4Ever
@Liberty4Ever 5 месяцев назад
Good to know that the K1 heat break fan can't take the heat of a pseudo heated chamber. I drape a clear 30 gallon trash bag over my Neptune 4 Pro and the 110 C bed gets the "chamber" temperature up to 55 C and ABS prints very well, but the little model light LED built into the hot end dimmed so much after 100 hours of printing ABS that it's now useless, but so far everything else has withstood the improvised heated build chamber on this open frame bed slinger.
@mg_customs8531
@mg_customs8531 5 месяцев назад
Nathan! Thank you for bringing all these awesome videos to us! I have a question if you could help me out, With all these new printers coming out, i remember your amazing review on the Ender 5 S1 and want to ask at its current reduced price(even cheaper refurbished!!) do you think the Ender 5 S1 is still viable? Being easily fixed and modded?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
I'd rather get an Ender 3 V3 SE or KE. There's not much point in having a cube printer if it doesn't come with an enclosure, at least thats what I think.
@mg_customs8531
@mg_customs8531 5 месяцев назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots very true! Think its worth waiting for the Ender 3 V3? What would your price guess be for it?
@Feibie
@Feibie 5 месяцев назад
The camera looks very crisp
@johankorten2797
@johankorten2797 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for your elaborate video. 34:00 maybe next time you could insert the nozzle in a separate heat block outside of the printer and hook it up a bench power supply, then you should easily be able to push the residual stuff through with that tool.
@LibertyNOTPoverty
@LibertyNOTPoverty 5 месяцев назад
@NathanBuildsRobots "K1 Bed Leveling Kit" on printables managed to get me bed down to 0.52mm variance. And it's a really quick print.
@RealShebang
@RealShebang 5 месяцев назад
I like the cable chain improvement, but the rest of the stuff it seems my regular K1 is just as good if not better. My 3d printed hepa/activated carbon filter seems way better, my Triangle Labs "diamond like" nozzle seems way better -- and I can put a 0.6 on it if I want to print CF materials. You can just buy and trivially install the same "AI Cam" on the K1.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
How much AI does it have though? :D
@colincampbell3679
@colincampbell3679 5 месяцев назад
Hi Nathan, hope your well and the fight with this printer was not too a pain? I just awhile ago on 31st December 2023, Got my 1st ever enclosed fast klipper 3D Printer the Qidi X-Plus-3. It been a great printer. But I had a big problem just last week where I left the printer doing a overnight print for the 1st time and woke up the next day to find that the model had un-stuck from the bed and was melted in the ball of death around the printing fast at 400 per second head. the ball was fully wrapped around the lower part of the hot end. I stopped the printing, and had to spend about 30 minutes slowly hot gun heating the ball of now set melted white PLA and carefully poking it off. I got it off and it had split the silicone sock and that had got partly stuck in the middle of that ball. The thing is, I had the bed auto leveled fine and done a great z off set as the model before printed with zero problems so the leveling and off set must have been okay? I got to now remove the hot end ceramic heater block and cooling fins and clean the rest of the melted PLA off them. Qidi do have a 2nd hot end in the box of a Hardened nozzle hot end So I fit that for now! Qidi are a great company for helping us so they said they will send me another normal copper hot end heater block unit. Just a pain as the bed was clean and had fresh glue layer so odd indeed it failed. Anyway I love the speed and detailed printing my X-Plus -3 does just thought you like to wear about my issues?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
Someone needs to add a sensor or switch that can detect that kind of error. Computer vision might be able to do it, but a dedicated Senator should be great because it would ideally be more reliable
@MrAlan1828
@MrAlan1828 26 дней назад
I'm using Creality Ender PLA filament @ 300mm /sec and as fast as 500mm/sec tops and still prints good, In everyday printing you can't have both fast and good prints.
@marcfair2163
@marcfair2163 5 месяцев назад
You can set the preview images in Orca. You can choose between several file Formats and sizes. One will fit the X1C. Try .PNG and 256x256
@KAKAFU
@KAKAFU Месяц назад
watching this over and over till mine gets here 🤣😂😅🍻🍻
@RBallarddesigns
@RBallarddesigns 5 месяцев назад
Good info NBR. I thought when they said K1C it was a joke.
@cagerage21
@cagerage21 5 месяцев назад
Great video man! Earned a sub! I may just pick up the K1 since it doesn't have the proprietary nozzle design. It's that or an A1 Mini/standard A1.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
You can't get an A1 right now because they are dealing with a cable strain issue that is a potential fire hazard.
@cagerage21
@cagerage21 5 месяцев назад
I saw that. Your video was how I learned about that also lol! Am I safe to just snag a K1? I have some bestbuy credit to use so it won't be $599. ​@NathanBuildsRobots
@djklermundable
@djklermundable 3 месяца назад
@@cagerage21 My K1C from Microcenter was only $539. Got it this week
@cnc-maker
@cnc-maker 5 месяцев назад
The fan is cooling both the PCB and the heat-break heat sink.
@JohanDegraeveAanscharius
@JohanDegraeveAanscharius 5 месяцев назад
Remove the bowden tube from the last buckle on the cable chain. Then the bend is correct. My original bowden tube actually got worn out after 100 h and snapped.
@DSPrints_
@DSPrints_ 5 месяцев назад
Orca slicer does have a print preview icon
@stal1963
@stal1963 5 месяцев назад
What I‘d like to see for all these Bambu Lab, Qidi, Creality CoreXY-printers, are 3rd party hotend assemblies that allow flexible nozzle changes using standard nozzles without requiring to screw or deal with cables. Just a smple mechanism that makes nozzle changes as fast as Formula 1 tire changes. This may be even provided by hobbyists with knowledge in mechanics and electrical engineering.
@boggisthecat
@boggisthecat 5 месяцев назад
I am waiting on the BIQU Panda hot-end. It’s the E3D Revo hotend system adapted for the Bambu Lab machines. It’s certainly possible that there will be something made for the K1 series. I have the Revo system on a (only slightly modified, only one careful owner, honest…) Ender 3. It is very good, with only having to mess with the z-offset a bit on nozzle-change. Using the nozzle to probe should make this an effortless option for the Bambu Lab machines.
@Castdeath
@Castdeath 5 месяцев назад
For me ... I couldn't care less about carbon fibre, but I love the updates for other filaments!
@meikgeik
@meikgeik 4 месяца назад
Agree. It's useless unless you get into the CF nylon like he said. I'm amazed at how many people just parrot the claims of filament manufacturers when it comes to CF infused filament.
@djklermundable
@djklermundable 3 месяца назад
@@meikgeik Dude, there is no magical relationship between PA (Nylon) and carbon fiber. If it makes PA filament stronger in ways, than it also does the same for PLA or others.
@MadRC
@MadRC 5 месяцев назад
Nathan have you seen Vector 3D Teardown of the K1C. His looked very used and also he did not have an all metal gear set as Crealty describe. Your fan on yours also looked rather dirty as well. Have you checked your extruder gearset ? I have a review sample and I’m going to check mine the weekend. What’s rather odd is that some of these seem very used before being sent for reviews.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
They are probably engineering or manufacturing test units. They would have run hundreds of hours on them before sending any machines out.
@FourStringL0B0
@FourStringL0B0 5 месяцев назад
Hey Nathan! Thanks for the upload. Question. Did Creality make any revisions for the extruder for the K1C?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
I don't think so, but I didn't take it apart to check
@GammaBeastOfficial
@GammaBeastOfficial 5 месяцев назад
Nice review, When can we expect the V3 SE Modder Board to be available for sale? It's very cool could think of a few possibilities.
@Soravia
@Soravia 5 месяцев назад
19:30 ATF called, they asked for Form 4 and Form 1 for your printer enclosure
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
It's a fully semi automatic silencer
@911appliance
@911appliance 3 месяца назад
Creality K1C vs Flashforge Adventurer 5M Pro with one to buy? Base on your reviews?
@Grello127646
@Grello127646 5 месяцев назад
Hasnt even started printing and already repairing the door handle :D
@oleurgast730
@oleurgast730 День назад
Actually seeing the Unicorn Nozzle I thought the "C" in K1C stands for "Colour". For Prusas mk3(s(+))+MMU2 were a lot of complains how hard/unreliable tuning of unload/ramping of filament was. This was greatly improved if people changed to the Revo hotend. The integrated heatbreak/nozzle combo leaves much better filament tips on unload. So you might can do filament changes with an ERCF without cut&poo. If you take a look at the new K2, there might be a chance it can do multicolour without cut&poo. Faster and less waste. The k1c nozzle cost about $4 to $5 on Aliexpress. So you can call it an consumable. If it realy helps automatic filamentchangers to reduce time and waste, the downside of not being able to clean it if it cloggs might be worth the compromise.
@3D_Printing
@3D_Printing 5 месяцев назад
34:14 Reminds me of looking at a firework rocket with the fuse lit :)
@saddle1940
@saddle1940 21 день назад
Its really hard to load filament because it goes through such a sharp turn just before the hotend. You have to push filament hard into the tube at the back while it tries to grab it.
@IxToxicity
@IxToxicity 5 месяцев назад
This things shakes soooo much
@JoshMurrah
@JoshMurrah 5 месяцев назад
I heard you were out at Luke's and took some footage - when will we be seeing that? I'm headed up there next month to pick up a Stablebot!
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
Nice, I'll be editing that video next, should be less than a week from now!
@raf_the_riffer
@raf_the_riffer 5 месяцев назад
I don’t even bother with the top cover or the PTFE tube. I hang my filament above and feed it through a 2 inch PTFE tube lol
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
Yeah I'm going to start doing that if I ever attempt CF nylon again.
@Liberty4Ever
@Liberty4Ever 5 месяцев назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots - Any style of Bowden tube is a real drag when printing TPU. I won't buy a printer with a Bowden tube and I'd remove the reverse Bowden from a K1 and feed from above.
@raf_the_riffer
@raf_the_riffer 5 месяцев назад
@@Liberty4Ever I tried printing TPU on my K1 without any PTFE tube, but the filament wasn't feeding into the extruder properly. So I just started using a really short piece and now I have no problems.
@Liberty4Ever
@Liberty4Ever 5 месяцев назад
@@raf_the_riffer - Thanks for the TPU report on the K1. I'm seriously contemplating a K1 Max, mostly to print some larger ABS parts (possibly ASA-CF) for a new product but I'd also want to use it to print TPU parts.
@ianjanssen583
@ianjanssen583 Месяц назад
the amount of aliexpress tabs that are open 💀 Overall amazing review! I was thinking of buying myself a K1C, most other reviewers were bashing the printer for not being a Bambu or Prusa yet seemed to not be able to mention why. And all reviewers seem to think we have money to spare... I am slightly worried about network security with this new printer, its web interface is cool but insecure... and with political prejudice I am slightly worried for network security because Creality is situated in China, who don't have the cleanest track record when it comes to spying... I will put this printer on a separate network and hope for the best...
@mysterio505
@mysterio505 5 месяцев назад
Your jokes are so dry, they are actually funny. Keep up the good work.
@seljd
@seljd 5 месяцев назад
16:35 "Klipper like interface" Fluidd is Klipper just like Mainsail is, its just a bit different UI
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
I only speak "Creality print"
@plextoob
@plextoob 3 месяца назад
Why not try the cleaned out nozzle/break? It would have been useful to know if clearing a glog like that would actually work.
@markusmaeder1388
@markusmaeder1388 5 месяцев назад
Nice test and you made me smile several times. I have a modded K1 and use it quite often. The extruder still bumps in to the door sometimes and I had to remove the cable chain. Nozzle changes are a nightmare and I consider using a FlowTech hotend. I think, Creality has tried to address several issues, but I wouldn't recommend buying it. In my opinion, there are more advanced and more user friendly solutions in the market.
@mehowq
@mehowq 5 месяцев назад
can you recommend any?
@s1v7
@s1v7 22 дня назад
very good review. the fact that it cannot really pring CF is important. why then do we need this 300°C if we cannot use it? then why bother with enclosure? then why k1c?
@giovannifontanetto9604
@giovannifontanetto9604 5 месяцев назад
What I learned in sound pollution class is that human perception of sound is logarithmic, thats why every 10 point decibels increase multiplies the sound level by 10 times. Lets suppose the hole in the K1 door is 1/25 the doors size, you will have a 96% energy reduction in the sound waves, but in decibels it will be like 12 decibels less. Closing that little hole correctely may get to 99%, but it will be only another decibel.
@MisterkeTube
@MisterkeTube 5 месяцев назад
They changed the pulley size? It being Creality, that then makes me wonder whether they also corrected the position of the motor to ensure the belt path was still orthogonal to the moving X gantry? And that makes me realize that I have so far not seen anyone check whether the K1, K1 max and K1C have correct orthogonal belt paths (for the parts where it matters). Maybe a gap you could fill?
@mortegutt
@mortegutt 5 месяцев назад
43:04 looks like you have the clogging where the heat sink isnt perforated all the way through for optimal cooling.
@SeanTaffert
@SeanTaffert 5 месяцев назад
Try running some Jabil 4535 PA+CF, it's the most abrasive filament I've ever seen.
@cnc-maker
@cnc-maker 5 месяцев назад
Do they no longer provide a needle that you can push up through the nozzle to clear it? The rod that you used it designed to push filament into the nozzle form the top like you used it, but it’s not for clearing clogs.
@Daizlol
@Daizlol 5 месяцев назад
Hello. I bought a Creality K1 hotend to upgrade my V3 SE, and I have a heatbreak from Polisi3d that is supposed to be better than the stock heatbreak in the K1. The only problem is the heatbreak is really hard to get out of the K1 ceramic hotend. Do you know how to remove the heatbreak from the hotend on the K1?
@joseph-montanez
@joseph-montanez 5 месяцев назад
The repeated shots of the print head going weeeeeep 😂.
@PapaP86
@PapaP86 Месяц назад
Maybe a dumb question, but can the regular K1 or K1 Max not print Carbon? Do you need a different extruder and/or nozzle? If so, can you still print everything else?
@wrxsubaru02
@wrxsubaru02 5 месяцев назад
I dont understand why they put that notch in the bottom of the door glass... Why not mount the screen at the top or at the very bottom below the door?
@georgemouer4565
@georgemouer4565 5 месяцев назад
Creality's US store does not have replacement nozzles for the K1C ! I asked in the store chat when/if they would be available and they had no idea !! This is a major problem!
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
IF you make a new standard nozzle you need a plan for rolling it out. hopefully they will have them in stock soon!
@user-sn7lu4fk9b
@user-sn7lu4fk9b 5 месяцев назад
Just curious, I really don’t like proprietary parts at all but the newer printers all have a little bit of that in them. Do you know if it’s possible to put the old hot end/nozzle assembly in the newer version? Does the original version/microswiss mod (if/when it’s compatible with k1c) allow it to use a more standard nozzle?
@georgemouer4565
@georgemouer4565 5 месяцев назад
Replacement nozzles are not available anywhere yet ! I asked in the creality store chat and they have no idea when/if they will be available. This is a major problem !!
@speedy3d524
@speedy3d524 5 месяцев назад
I think was really nice about bamboo printers is they don’t mount their screens on the bottom, so it prevents neck cramps……
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
How much time do you spend looking at the screen?!
@anbu94
@anbu94 5 месяцев назад
I mounted my klipper screen at eye level because it takes very little time being hunched over before I get tight muscles and migraines. Some people have neck problems.@@NathanBuildsRobots
@speedy3d524
@speedy3d524 5 месяцев назад
Well, now that you mention it, I guess not too much 🤔😂
@Liberty4Ever
@Liberty4Ever 5 месяцев назад
My printer is on the table next to me as I'm seated at my computer. The display at the bottom of the printer is at eye level. Putting the display on top of the printer would force me to crane my neck up to see it, or stand up.
@amessersmith
@amessersmith 5 месяцев назад
How did the filament break in the bowden tube, but was still in the tube? wouldn't the extruder continue pulling the filament from the break? I think you got a clog and the filament broke from the constant flexing as the motion system continued on.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
I think you're right. The filament had a dent in it from the filament grinding away at it. Not sure if it was a nozzle clog or heat creep that caused it, but either way, not good. I suppose there is a possibility that it was bad filament that caused it as well.
@omahena
@omahena 5 месяцев назад
Exactly what I was wondering. What I learned on my K1 Max is that the extruder gears get so hot that they will soften if not melt PLA filament. After a rushed change from an enclosed ASA print to Creality Hyper PLA the PLA filament melted inside the extruder. Once that happens, you can't make the extruder push out filament and the filament acts like a pin, preventing you from disassembling the extruder to clear the jam. Sucks.
@bupper521
@bupper521 5 месяцев назад
13:00 - best edit on youtube - 2024
@JasonAkers0
@JasonAkers0 3 месяца назад
I just got this one in and How do I remove the styrofoam from behin and below the build plate?
@JasonAkers0
@JasonAkers0 3 месяца назад
Nevermind, figured it out.
@superactionguy6000
@superactionguy6000 5 месяцев назад
Long time lurker, first time poster. Nathan, thank you for what you do, and for the humor and thoroughness your reviews bring to the 3D printing community. I feel as though we are in the Apple VS PC mentality with 3D printers now. Bambu Labs is clearly the “Apple” of 3D printers, elegant looking, largely work well, but locked down, and not very customizable. The other brands, such as Creality seem to fall under the “PC” moniker of work well enough, lots of customization options, and huge community support. It’s a good time to be a 3D printer enthusiast!
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
The Creality K1 is like the Microsoft Surface Laptop of 3D printers. Not quite the same as apple. But not quite a PC either. The Ender 3 is the true PC analogy, and it's still my favorite printer for superb customizability.
@ronmerkus5941
@ronmerkus5941 4 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂 not even 5 minutes and you broke the door handle 😂😂😂
@StarlancerAstro
@StarlancerAstro 5 месяцев назад
C = Color, it will be an AMS competitor, but too bad I love my P1S
@timothyjones7907
@timothyjones7907 5 месяцев назад
Where you been?! I’m not even here to see the printer anymore haha
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
Mission accomplished
@TheBestUni
@TheBestUni 3 месяца назад
❤❤
@fivepointeightnate
@fivepointeightnate 5 месяцев назад
You'll have less problems if you put your printer on a solid table. $10 card table shaking around will screw things up quick.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
I thought my table was pretty solid. It's not an optical bench or anything but it's pretty sturdy for a desk.
@paulv69
@paulv69 5 месяцев назад
meh, Rigor doesn't seem to be applied to testing Creality's 'improvements"? i get a similar feel about the A1 bed cord. It's a question i think many of us have about the longevity of proprietary stuff. Removing the bowden tube from the chain, and probably having a taller lid to accommodate a more gentle slope and remove the kink (not kink shaming). It's an easy mod to print an extender to set the lid on or newer iterations of the K1 can come with a taller lid. Thing is, it's such an easy fix that should have been already done, they knew the problem existed and it feels like they did a slap dash fix and didn't test it, which doesn't evoke confidence.
@raphofthehills4405
@raphofthehills4405 5 месяцев назад
Replacing this channel's signature fan-ripping mods with burning nozzles is TIGHT ! I like the direction this is taking 😂 I still miss the throwing-over-the-balcony tantrums though. Pretty please ???
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
I'm gonna need a taller balcony
@RealShebang
@RealShebang 5 месяцев назад
Burning nozzles is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
@ianjanssen583
@ianjanssen583 Месяц назад
For a nozzle clog I heat up the nozzle and blow pressurized air into the .4mm nozzle
@MrHeHim
@MrHeHim 5 месяцев назад
I returned a K1 after i did dimensional print tests, found 0.8-1.6% dimensional variance. For me that's a lot for mechanical parts. I was about to check the belt tension and square and immediately saw the belts didn't line up in parallel on the X gantry. And if we remember a2 + b2 = c2, that means the closer you get to either side the belt's pull on the tool head will move further from 1:1 the closer it gets to either pully. Another thing that bothered me was the nozzle temps jumping +/-3c printing at max speed. The 4020 blower it has is impressively powerful, and about 3x as powerful as the standard 4020 blower (normally 0.8A and the K1's is 0.3A). But still got +/-1-2c at normal speeds of 200mm/s 3K accel when the fan was running far slower. I ran PID on the hotend about 5 times, patted my head and rubbed my tummy etc. I have another printer with a volcano hotend and klipper shows about +/-0.5% nozzle temp variance printing at 325mm/s with 4.5K accel. And the parts showed, on the K1 i did notice on parts that they would have glossy corners and small sections then matte on straight sides/faster motions. I would blame thermal mass on that, but idk because i returned it before i felt like tearing the whole nozzle apart. I printed the benchy included on the USB, it came out nearly perfect.. SUPER impressive. I just couldn't rely on it for engineering parts. And i knew that going in, especially with long belt runs on Core-XY that lend to "inaccurate" travel
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 месяцев назад
I'll check on the gantry, good catch
@joeking433
@joeking433 5 месяцев назад
Is there a printer that is known for having little dimensional variance?
@MrHeHim
@MrHeHim 5 месяцев назад
@@joeking433 all of them really, the belts have a small amount of stretch till they yield then tension raises significantly per unit "stretched" after that. (Edit) And if it's not perfectly square and tramed, that will compound. But! Where not running CNC/Milling machines... Soo, for the most part the 'plasticity' of what is printed can usually fit together just fine. I did get mine down to >0.05% in X, Y, and combined. Just as good as a CNC that hasn't been maintained 😁. One great tip I got from someone's video was to clock the linier bearings in a + position, so that the bearings ride on the axis. That noticeably got rid of a ton of slack Just looked up position accuracy on Gates GT2 6mm belts, their doc shows 0.010in/0.3mm per 92 teeth on 20 grove pulleys @6.6lbs with a 200step motor. *I always put mine to 7lbs as its enclosed and I imagine the rubber teeth get soft
@joeking433
@joeking433 5 месяцев назад
@@MrHeHim What printer would you recommend for having little or no dimensional variance is what I meant.
@MrHeHim
@MrHeHim 5 месяцев назад
@@joeking433 ohh, sorry. You can make most printers really accurate. I just know of three that have bad pulley positions, the K1, Ender V3 SE/KE, and Duplicator i3 I bought many years ago and still own. Which I had to design a new bed Y stepper bracket for. If they don't have said design flaws, then it's just a matter of squaring the machine perfectly then tramming the bed. I don't think any of them will come perfectly square or with the perfect belt tension. But! If you put a gun to my head... Pre built PRUSA and Bambu. Bambu has a patent on the auto tensioning system on their printer, only drawback is the extra long belts Core-XY printers use will introduce less accurate positioning. BUT! Idk, I haven't compres them.
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