Creating a Collaborative Environment -- Designer vs. Developer #1

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In this episode Mustafa Kurtuldu speaks to Jake Archibald about communication and the assumption that designers and developers sole role is to either make things look pretty or to be a cog in a machine with no soul.
Welcome to Designer vs. Developer, a show that tries to solve the challenges faced in industry by opening a conversation between the two, providing take aways, solutions to workflows, tools & discussions on everyday struggles.
You can listen to an extended version of our conversation in this podcast: goo.gl/wMKu70
Read our blog post here: goo.gl/Y8fgrt
Learn more about the subjects mentioned in this video:
Basics of UX: goo.gl/at8VLW
Design Sprints: goo.gl/XBon9Q
Performance: goo.gl/08igDR
Subscribe to the Chrome Developers Channel: goo.gl/LLLNvf
Watch the rest of the series: goo.gl/eIk8r6

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20 окт 2024

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@mistersmit6449 7 лет назад

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@emberchord 7 лет назад

All of this is based upon the assumptions, that people take their ego back and prioritize the need of the product/the user they create it for. Issues discussed here are not inherent to the professions, its because people don't communicate well or because they hire rockstar designers / developers, only there to raise their ego by being treated like a knight in golden armor. The key to all of this is not to hire people who only design or develop for attention, but instead to create actual value. Just my two cents.

@MariusNiveriHH 7 лет назад

I saw a talk by Jake on I/O round about 5 weeks ago and no I see him everywhere :o

@jakearchibald 7 лет назад

Marius Niveri I haunt the web

@MariusNiveriHH 7 лет назад

You sure, you havnt overtook it yet? I mean you made the god damn service worker. Which by the way should be called "I-make-the-web-great-again-worker", or something like that ;)

@ourcore 7 лет назад

Absolutely great video with solid advice, guys. Our dev team has experienced some disconnects with the design team, so this is spot-on and will definitely be helpful. Keep 'em coming!

@Mustafa-ux 7 лет назад

Mario Parra glad you like it, stay tuned for the next episode :)

@BK-ze9zz 7 лет назад

What about someone who wants to be both? I study Computer Science but I really want to be a UX designer and developer. Is there a place for that sort of a person or would you rather recommend sticking to one side of the process?

@Mustafa-ux 7 лет назад

Bilal Kazi i do both, i say do everything you can :) sky's the limit

@hanvyj2 7 лет назад

Bilal Kazi in a lot of places both is a requirement. Smaller businesses can't employ fulltime designers and developers, and while they may use consultation or external designers for big chunks a lot of the design is done by the developer.

@ChrisMoyer 7 лет назад

It helps to become aware of your own learning and working styles. Some folk do better by specializing, others by knowing as much as possible about everything. I do advise people more big picture and pattern oriented (myself) to also at least do one thing well. Mustafa nails it though: "do everything you can".

@980Mohid 6 лет назад

You can do both! I personally don't like designing. So, I just stick with development.

@mihaeltomich 7 лет назад

Good one and much-needed video series. We're in it together, but sometimes it feels like we're on opposite sides.

@Mustafa-ux 7 лет назад

Glad you like! Things work best when we talk more I find.

@perspicaciouscritic 7 лет назад

@ Mustafa, Very good podcast idea, congratulations. I do wish, however, that, at least in the descriptions if not the introductions, you described the actual roles in slightly more depth (i.e., is Jake front-end or back-end?; are you a digital or graphic designer?) in order to give the interviews more context. Thanks.

@Mustafa-ux 7 лет назад

Thanks for the tip, I think ill add that to the description to give more clarity! :)

@BkltdCo 7 лет назад

I've done a bit of freelance at #Google (maybe before these guys were born - lol) - and I was shocked at how UNSOPHISTICATED Google was/is in the #Design process. These, errm, rows bxn #designer/#engineer (to use an old Ford motor company juxtaposition) are age old. Form follows function is the surviving constant in this equation. There will ALWAYS be THREE types working in this sphere: the #DESIGN only type. The #Engineer only type - and the #HYBRID type - who can easily work w both "sides of the brain" if you like.

@jaitanmartini1478 7 лет назад

Very cool initiative Google! Very promising!

@lkaps 7 лет назад

Great idea for the show! Want to see more

@Mustafa-ux 7 лет назад

Thank you my friend :)

@Mustafaismail22 7 лет назад

Hi Mustafa!!!!

@Mustafa-ux 7 лет назад

HI!

@leeroyescu 7 лет назад

I wonder what it would be like to only work by assembling tried-and-true building blocks, and having a team painstakingly experiment to create new building blocks, one at a time... and stay away from mixing the 2 activities.

@JorgeEscobarMX 7 лет назад

The missing person in that conversation is: client/product owner/boss/marketing executive

@Mustafa-ux 7 лет назад

Absolutely, I guess what we are trying to say is 'be more inclusive rather than defensive', which sounds obvious I know but sometimes can be hard to do.

@JorgeEscobarMX 7 лет назад

I don't know, I builded two wordpress sites recently and keeping up with updates plus the added work of apply new designs is quite overwhelming. If design changes didn't replace past work, that would be awesome, but I guess that's how this bussines is.

@Mustafa-ux 7 лет назад

Change is something that we have embrace. Somethings things are never done - done. Its part of working on living products I guess :)

@RafaelAdrianCichocki 7 лет назад

+1 Lets not treat software product development like a conveyor belt. I much prefer to be included in more aspects of the product than just my specialty.

@Mustafa-ux 7 лет назад

Absolutely! I have found some of the best insight into design has come from other places.