If someone wants to back breed create a bloodline do father to daught or grandfather to granddaughter any other way can cause issues. One should never breed mother to son or brother to sister unless you want possible issued. The way it should be done, questions just look at wild animals they show you how to line breed with no issues. The way he builds a line is not the way it should be done.
Hey man, hope your health is all good and you’ve been in recently for your cough, my uncle thought he just had a regular cough, ended up having lung cancer. Thank you for the video and god bless!
Very good explanation. This concept is called back-breeding and is what is used to start most breeds. But once a breed is already established, this is no longer necessary. More typically done is 3-2 or 2-3 (aunt to nephew or uncle to niece). You also see combinations like 2-4, which is the sire of the male is the great grandsire of the female, or combinations like 4-5,5,. The method shown establishes a line and a breed very quickly, but it doubles up not only on the good genes but also on the recessive genes and is a double edge sword. Another method is 3-1 or a grand father back to his own grand-daugther. Again, this is all close, but if done too often can cause loss of hybrid vigor. It creates a concept called "pre-potency" where a dog that is 7/8th of one particular ancestor if bred to a female with an unrelated pedigree would "outpower" that pedigree and pass himself forward in time. Thanks for sharing. Good information.
agree would love to hear more from you. especially does that last part mean you could introduce a 3rd breed that has characteristics you like into the line?
Is there any dog breed that is same as Great Pyrenees in term of size, behavior but is suitable for warm/ hot climate? I need livestock guardian dog, not herding dog, to guard pastured livestock in central Mississippi. Really need the dog to be big size so it can exert dominance and keep bigger livestock in line, but without all the biting, and constant barking like with herding dogs. If not, then I may need to create a line out of Great Pyrenees. But is it possible without the Great Pyrenees with hot climate tolerance? If so, how? Thanks in advanced.
Best video on RU-vid by far on line breeding 👌 southern triple j did a good video on breeding pittbulls also the other video on this channel did a while ago is also a very good video
very informative video. I think if examine the breeding of Horand von Grafrath, the foundation dog of the GSD breed and his brother Luchs and his son Beuowolf, a similar program was used to develop the German Shepherd initially.
If you haven’t already could you show how you would line breed off of a female? I know most people do them off of males because it’s easier but I’m curious of the formula to build of a female.
Great information sir, greetings from me 🙏🏾 and I have a question for you ... If I have gone through the line breeding process and got the results, then how could I maintain the quality of the offspring from that broodstock (the result of line breeding)? How to keep the same quality for the offspring? Is it permissible for me to breed that offspring likes breeding the siblings? Love&peace from Bali 😇
If you have a game apbt and breed it to a mastiff, would the pups lose all gameness until bred back to the apbt? In other words, could the apbt/mastiff pups produce some game pups with the apbt bring 50%?
Generally, gameness will be lost in a cross, but there are a few occasions it can remain. Game mastiffs are EXTREMELY rare, but there are a few. I would not bet on finding one. In 24 years of working mastiffs, I have only seen one.
I think he said he could do that but he would lose too much size as Frankie is already more on the pitbull side. He wants to maintain the bandog size which is bigger for this particular program.
At the risk of sounding ignorant - I’m curious as to why the strategy wouldn’t be to outcross the Frankie offspring to another already set Bandog line that has the size you want, then breed the offspring of that mating to another Frankie offspring from another line? It seems like that would give you more space between generations, limit COI, inprove hybrid vigor, and solve the size piece? I suppose it does take more time, but that seems to be a benefit not a drawback. Just asking, if I’m missing something I’d love to hear from someone who knows more than me.
That is done also...however, Frankie being as proven to have excellent traits, is worth line breeding on in order to fix those genes into the gene pool, which helps preserve the desired traits he displays into future generations by "setting type" (increasing the allelic frequency of his desired genes that determined those desired traits). The drawback of doing what you suggested is that you are less likely to capture the desired genes as we don't have 100 years with 100 dogs every year.
@@chicagowebsiteservice8482 if the defects are from dominant genes (unlikely) you would see them before the breeding. If the defects are recessive (more likely) then some of the offspring will capture them and show them and then you know the parents carry them. Don't breed those parents again. Thankfully, this has never been an issue with our dogs.
I have done parent bred to offspring before without any issues. Father x daughter...& Mother x son is basically no different as long as the dogs bred are not carrying any sex linked genetic disorders. Just make sure both dogs are healthy and know the lineage well before proceeding.
@@APBT-Bandog We've done Family breeding for over 30 year's off family bred from long before us, Never an Issue like many say as long as you use Quality Healthy K9s Dude has shared some Gems for those Who aren't aware Wishing Em All the Luck
Just watched your video. Good stuff. Bullets a triple bull. His grandfather was Colby with a actual rescue that carried recessive gene to fawn grandfather was reversed brindle. I took blue fawn from staffy and American pit . Bred with Americans bully bred with game dog from the black Jack line.and bullets the result. Their all really great looking dogs. I wanted basically a well proportioned dog and with thick bones and agility and strong mental health with no allergies or cancer's. So far all my pups are alive and well and all great dog's. If you ever get time I'd like to have a real conversation. I appreciate your channel and I'd like to maybe visit this spring if that's a possibility.
That’s really interesting, are you goin for a performance bully? If so, that would be amazing. It would be awesome to watch a fully functional bully with the stamina and ability for performance/work.
@@rorydevlin3617 thanks..I was thinking with both offspring receiving 50% dna from father. If the siblings were to produce pups they'd be 75% as 25% would be carried over from the 50 from brother to sister mating lol
My guess is when the original male gets to old and his male offspring are to young or maybe to tight for the job a new male takes over. At least that's my not even close to an expert guess.
Hello, i looked up about breeding because i have two german shepherds Male 3yrs old and a female 1.5 years old. They have the same parents, but are 7 generations apart. Ive been good keeping them apart through 3 heats, this is her 4th heat and they mated. Is this ok? They both have good temperament and intelligent.
gender is irrelevant for the most part. A female does contribute the mitochondrial DNA, but that is about only about 1% of our total DNA...so I would not get hung up on trading 99% for 1%. Instead, just use quality specimens with known history.
it all depends on the dogs used...their lines, their traits, and your goals. Do not make the mistake of thinking success is obtained by a particular breeding method. You gotta use the right animals and know the traits of the dogs being used.
Is it true that when brothers mate , the babies are born with deformities such as cleft lip, aggressiveness etc.??? Or is it just a myth? Please let me.know
I would not use a dog if I didn’t know at least a generation or two of the pedigree..& if that is all I knew those would have to be some seriously high quality working dogs.
As long as the common parent is an exceptional individual, then half-sibling breedings are fine. But, if that common parent has any issues, expect those issues to pop up when you double breed on that individual.
Hang on, wouldn't kamodo also be 3/4 WG?? As L7 and WG essentially have a mirror relationship in the chart. 3/4 + 3/4 = 6/4 = 3/2 =1.5 So komodo is a dog and a half? How is this possible?
Think you can help? I have a male who is amazing, (not pedigree. None of that) and identical to my old dog that passed away a few years ago. It was very hard to find anither dog just like her (his mother put side by side to my old dog is identical. Legit) I dont ever want to part ways with my dog but know their life span isnt even close to ours. So i want to make a line from him and always have them for my kids, my grand kids..so they all have their own. Im still watching but... I learn abit different My original plan was to breed him to a female, keep one back, breed that one to a unrelated, then breed a female back to my sire. Everyone is calling me out for wanting to line breed and screaming saying you cant breed your sire twice thats incest yada yada.
What's your thoughts on registered vs non registered pups. I currently own a Boerboel her parents are registered but wasn't able register the pup. Couple weeks I'm going to purchase a Bandogge pup, parents are registered but she want an extra $1,000 just for registration for the pup. I'm looking breed the Bandogge to the Boerboel
@@joshmiranda7493 no reason really just would like to see that creation. obviously someone was curious reason why there's a Bandogge. Boerboel in my opinion is probably the best all around mastiff there is and bandogge has one the best motors. Why not. I'm doing this for anything other than curiosity, no matter what they're our family pets.
Lee are you aware of the breeding of one of you're setinels crosses to a Neo mastiff named BBB done by calicatchers he has a instsgram page. I belive he aquried the bitch from West Coast senitnels? I would he curious about you're thoughts on the breeding
If someone wants to back breed create a bloodline do father to daught or grandfather to granddaughter any other way can cause issues. One should never breed mother to son or brother to sister unless you want possible issued. The way it should be done, questions just look at wild animals they show you how to line breed with no issues. The way he builds a line is not the way it should be done.
Nature VS nurture , you can look into the bucking bulls, they have tried cloning the best but they come up short to the original even tho they are the exact same copy