It’s such a shame that people like Kent truly believe that violence is the best resolution to a disagreement. He would rather beat and shame a person into submission and obedience than have a civil discussion based in understanding and remain peaceful even if he doesn’t succeed in persuading the other.
@@hitchensrazor9538 he caused the partition of india and pakistan which killed several ppl. He abused his wife and didnt let his wife have her medications and so she died. But when he had the same disease, he took the medication. He was a hypocrite and cause several deaths for his personal gain
I've seen people dunk on Kent while debunking him, but you did a 100% pacifist run on him. This was absolutely incredible, you have an immense amount of patience and maturity.
@Jinn Genie Maybe the AmazingAtheist, but he doesn’t talk much about religion anymore. - A message from His Imperial and Royal Majesty, Kaiser Wilhelm der Große.
100% this. Hovind is a grifter and con-man. He is (or was) in prison for tax evasion. He's also a conspiracy theorist who believes that 9/11 was an inside job, the gov't is hiding a known cancer cure, Jews are behind this and that, and other lunacy. He was never a good-faith debater, he's only interested in selling garbage to Christians.
Sadly, that’s what the majority of religious or atheist content is these days. People are far more interested in dunking on the competition than they are in getting down to what the truth is.
@@Connor_Kirkpatrickit’s funny because I sometimes feel bad for watching the atheist experience, but I remember that these are legitimate Christian’s who think they have a good argument willingly going on a show where they are simply intellectually outmatched, but their hubris level is as high as the hosts intelligence. So they deserve the dunk.
@@Connor_KirkpatrickThat's because that's how the majority of people are. Marketing, sales, and political campaigns aren't successful because they're reasonable. They're successful because they appeal to our emotions, especially fear and anger. Drew's attempts to appeal to rationality are very inefficient because most people are not rational. Hovind and Hitchens are simply more aware that rhetorical emotional appeals are more powerful than reason.
@@KrazyManuel Kent seems terrible, but maybe his old content was more tame? Idk. I just think it’s not necessary to call Drew dumb for trusting the adults around him when he was a kid.
Is believing a human genome that contains code so complex it is read in multiple directions, has error correction, sophisticated encryption, and ascribing that unrivalled level of complexity to a designer as stupid as you just assume? The technology you used to post this reply was designed, engineered, and constructed by intelligence and required a high level of knowledge in many disciplines, you get that don't you? The human body processes more instructions per second than EVERY computer combined in the whole world and does this consuming a measly 20 watts of electricity. This is not a belief, it is a scientific mathematical fact, do you suspend your every day observations that complex ordered information necessities an intelligent mind so you can hold on to a theory that requires you to ignore your life long observations? You are brainwashed if you believe the nonsense that is evolution because you have to break all of the universal laws, all of known physics knowledge, all scientific observations concerning information requires intelligence, and worst of all the fact numbers (there is math everywhere from the micro to the macro) only reside in a mind, you need to eject all of these things to propose everything comes from nothing, laws create themselves, insanely complex information pops into existence, and random mutations can solve real world engineering problems like flight, so yeah, if you eject the world you experience and the observations you make every day of your life then you are brainwashed into believing a fairy tale for God denying adults.
praetorianAU, First of all Kent is not God. When Kent said someone is brained washed he was referring to the brainwasher, Satan. Who has deceived the whole world that he doesn't exist. Not only that has darkened the non believers, the non faithful's hearts. So as to make them automatically and instinctively, naturally more susceptible to Satan's lies and deception. And reject that God exist. So as you can clearly see there is no irony what so ever.
@@michaelmorton6781the he is a human she is a human point in any discustion is just tiring . WE ALL ARE. It is not a defensive argument , “ we are all human , we all make mistakes “ no shit. Still you can say this in ANY situation and it is never better than any other argument that you throw in. You can say this to a pedophile or a killer “ they are just human , they made mistakes “ you can say it to a serial killer, it wont change the discussion.
ben Jovi I couldn’t have expressed it better myself! (high five). I often use North Korea in comparisons, so reading your remark give me a big ass smile. xD
Also, he's not even a doctor. His "PhD" was purchased through a mail-order diploma mill. He uses it to hide his extreme incompetence as a religious leader.
What's really funny about that, is the premise of that story. If you are GOD, a supreme omnipotent being, there's no point in creating anything from dust. There is no one around, it's just you and the universe. You just create them, there's no need for theatrics without an audience. Just poof, create them. No dust needed. The story is clearly a fabrication made up by a human.
What's amusing to me is a creator god needed incest to populate the earth not once but twice why not create enough people so that incestuous relations aren't necessary to populate
@@sonics25 another thing I kinda wonder is why is heaven, a place of spiritual enlightenment and goodness, portrayed as having tons of earthly joys? like great food and drinks? why would god want us to have earthly pleasure when thats only for our imperfect, requiring food and sustenance bodies?
@@glasshorse6893 how is heaven a heaven I’d say I was a nymphomaniac in life. A person who loved sex and was aware of their enjoyment of it? Heaven has no sin and with many treating sex as though it is a sin itself, how would I ever enjoy it What’s to enjoy about a white void with only food and snobby ass people who were mostly racist and sexist
He's not trying to convert atheists, he just tries to impress his followers. Cause that's where the money comes. He cannot afford to lose them. That's his main motivation.
I too discredit people that have actually went to school while thinking I know more because I looked at a video by someone who's view is ironically the same as mine.
@@lukesutton4135I don’t think anyone meeds to have a Phd or even gone to uni to realize that the guy in a labcoat beating Spongebob with a small hammer after repeatedly saying “You got brainwashed” isn’t someone you should take as a figure of authority
Not that any of you care but you ought to know the level of censorship that is going on this channel. If you were a private group that would be one thing but since it's open to the public and this guy spends a lot of time smearing people when he should be debating speaks volumes. We don't have to agree but you should know when your being used.
@@mauricemendez3658 also its not a public place its fucking youtube a privately owned platform and if there was a lot of censorship your message would have been deleted
YEC is just another dumb conspiracy theory and I do think Kent is crazy but even I can admit this comment is inaccurate and dumb. Kent does actually debate.
@@fujisawatooru495 I watched it, maybe you all didn't. Or you have your heads firmly planted in a place where the sun doesn't shine that you didn't notice the insults being made. Ignorance is bliss as they say.
"Here a box of nothing, make a BB out of it." Sorry, creating things from nothing is supposedly what God did, that's YOUR side of the debate, not mine.
The difference is there was an intelligent creator that made man from dust, while in evolution theory there is nothing but rocks, heat, minerals and some wacky impossible mathmatics involved.
As an ex-Catholic (never really believing, just there because of family tradition), now full-Atheist, I can’t help to notice how religious apologists never really argue facts, but resort to name-calling, interrupt in live discussions, yell & shout in utter distraction.
I was raised in a Mormon household and while I think that while Mormons are misunderstood and dehumanized a lot I also think that a religion that will never stop harassing you into coming back is not a religion I want to be a part of.
You allowed yourself to be defeated by religions if that's your only conclusion about the love of God. I was catholic but glad to get far from that. The love of God is above condemning people. I'm just saying..if you ever need him, THE LIVING GOD,he will be there. He is far more compassionate than any person.
Paul Regalado I know what you mean. I’m not technically an atheist because I still believe in God but I’m not part of any religion because if you hear a message from God secondhand it’s going to be warped by other people’s beliefs.
I don't think the insulting and somewhat threatening rhetoric people like this use is intended to win over atheists to his side. I think its intended to scare Christians who are questioning their faith into toeing the line.
As Professor Dave pointed out in his video about the 'DIscovery Institute: People right now literally fight for a Reverse of the Seperation-of-Church-and-State, which would be devastating. Telltale says to that: We need more Science-Enthusiasts and Atheist In-Office (he even provides infos how to run for Office). I mean, just in general: Ever noticed how Science-RU-vidrs and Atheist-RU-vidrs are basically 'Blood-Related'? They even all cover Kent Hovind and such people; which aint a Coincidence. The 2 Fanbases dont overlap enough, which is 1 of many Problems.
Agreed. I feel compelled to pray, and I'm a staunch atheist. He is only making attempts at bullying his own circles into staying part of his circle, because if the religion falls apart, so too does the aggressive, cruel, and manipulative power dynamic the religion has created
im a Christian here. and I think Jesus would agree with you about him showing love to Kent. the parable of the good Samaritan was about an unbeliever. a non jew. and Jesus presented him as more moral that the priests whom Jesus said walked past the robbed man. I think a lot of atheists don't realise that if they lived in Jesus's day and were criticising the pharisees, that Jesus would be doing an even better job than them. i appreciate Kent's defence of creation. ( frankly even if i didn't believe in God, I still wouldn't believe in evolution. my objections to it stand on their own based on what I consider to be inconsistencies) but he also believes that God is a tyrant. which is sadly what modern christian theology teaches. i reject that notion in favour of what the early church believed and what Jesus actually taught. I do not defend the inconsistencies in modern christian theology any more than i would defend the inconsistencies in the tenants of scientism and Darwinism.
@Dylan Stewart OK. lets clear something up here. I never said anybody was stupid or that any of these people are involved in some conspiracy. secondly, lets clear something else up. many of the top scientists in their field will openly say that they have not even begun to plumb the depths of how our universe works. so lets not Go and make an argument that we actually just have astronomy and the other theoretical dominated sciences all figured out. thirdly. Darwinian evolution is Occam's worst nightmare and his razor tears it to shreds in comparison to ANY sort of theory that posits that life came from any other highly complex order. Not just intelligent design. the dualistic illusion that either Darwinian evolution or a VERY specific creation account interpreted by flawed human beings from the bible, are the only possible explanations for the entirety of organic matter on planet earth is flagrantly reductionistic in my opinion. fourthly. DNA change does not constitute creation of harmonious order. rather it is the product of such an order. fifthly. equating retroactively and archaeologically researched biological science to mathematics does not help anybody. thanks for reading to the bottom! :) i don't get to discuss like this often enough.
@@alephtav5543 yeah but evolution =/= darwinism Evolution today is more like a lot of theories that explains how life came to be, read about " modern synthesis" and you will see; it started like a theory reconciling Darwinism and Mendel ideas on genetics, but nowadays it has a lot of theories and knowledge that comes from other people and ideas. Also, occam's razor is a principle, not a law; its about how the simplest solution is most likely the right one. You know, "most likely", not "definitely" So yeah, it is a nightmare if you try to keep it simple, but a lot of stuff in the universe is not simple. btw, Gregor Mendel was actually a catholic frair! (some kind of monk or priest) Theres no shame in denying some aspects of religion, doesnt make you less a believer or a hypocrite, it just means that you disagree. There's alot of people who works in science and believes in some kind god or higher being, and thats ok
@@alephtav5543 btw, mendel today is recognized as the founder of modern genetics so, yay for researchers and scientists despite their religion or beliefs! yay!
Drew, you're probably more intelligent, better informed and more eloquent than any creationist I've encountered in over 40 years. Since starting deconstruction three years ago, yours has become one of my favourite channels. Thanks for what you do!
Pierre de Cœur yeah when I was 14, I just became an atheist and I was WAYYY too excited and wanted to talk about it all the time. Cost me some friendships but thankfully I’m not like that anymore
All the while the Christian does wacka crap that is eat up by the loving ones. I would guess mr. skeptic was home schooled and never got beat up by a bully type like Hovind.
"it's because i'm a scientist" kent, it's a stethoscope. it's for listening for a heartbeat and similar. you want to talk about physics, chemistry and biology. only for a specialised field in one of the 3 would you ever use a stethoscope. that that thing of, you look ridiculous. (i can pull of the exact same look, and i'd probably be more qualified while looking silly)
Maybe but there are other possibilities. Its not unreasonable to assume that Kent Hovind is acting greedily or maliciously rather than childishly. I agree that he is taking on some of the actions 5th graders do when they get in fights but hes also not acting anything like a 5th grader in other ways. 5th graders don't create and hit representations of other kids they are mad at very often. They don't put on a munch of props to illustrate why they don't need to do a chore. Kent is cultivating a very specific audience. If GMS was much larger than Kent I might think that even engaging with his is less than responsible because the publicity is harmful.
“Evolution is the dumbest thing in the world.” I wonder if I take the top 10 best experts on biology how many of them believe in evolution, how about the top 100, the top 1000?
@@shroomer8294 Not sure who you were responding to. But all 1000 would be believers in evolution. But the thing is I think there is probably a 50 50 chance Kent believes in evolution and just pretends not to. And this is the dangerous part of engaging with him and others like him in the way this videos does. Kent may be simply trolling for profit.
I wonder why we, as a species, have such a difficult time with honest debate. I catch myself making horrible mistakes all the time. My personal problem is not listening to understand, but rather waiting to respond. You, my good sir could teach a master class on civil discourse. Well done.
@@Espartanica Absolutely not. I don't even mention Kent in my post, so how to you make that ignorant inference? You are the kind of person I am looking for because I can absolutely school you with plain logic and actual facts. I am neither for, nor against Kent. I am merely holding you all to the same standard you hold every one else up to, and you all can't handle it because it shows you all how wrong you are.
@@eduardopena5893 you clicked on this video knowing it wouldn't be a live debate and somehow believe that lessens his arguments? What is the point? What is the reason to click on something knowing what it'll be only to claim "gotcha" points in the comments? What were you hoping to achieve?
thats all it boils down to if you dont simply believe in all the things in the bible and make wannabe scientific conclusions from there, you are denying reality its like he doesnt understand that all his "science" is founded on first believing in the bible without question
@Guanglai Kangyi, Age 15 I fact checked those scriptures, and what's written could also apply to Hovind, as he acts more foolish than wise if this is anything to go by.
If you believe that marry got pregnant by god without having sex with him and she still happens to be a virgin! Even after having the baby 👶 that popped her cherry 🍒 and then you read that from a old fairytale that stuck with people outside of the U.S. etc! Because they just so happen to want to believe in it because they are not happy in their lives and it also stuck with them and then they brain washed their kids and so forth makes you smart! What ever floats your boat 🚣♀️ To me it’s like some one believing in a old book written by a delusional person from the past and some one else wanting it to be true and thinking it might be something that it really isn’t and spreading that false rumor from being delusional themselves.
Is our disagreement with David and Kenth and the others just 'taste' (in which case we'd be pathetic if we report them), or are they actually harmful (which makes not acting wrong)? I often do that and consider myself a proud expert: Over time, I got a lot removed, from P0RN to Mobbing - and of course our beloved lil friends, the Spam-Bots. This and more. ...Question: Is our disagreement with David and Kenth and the others just 'taste' (in which case we'd be pathetic if we report them), or are they actually harmful (which makes not acting wrong)??
I, with my Hobby of reporting Scammers, Racists, P0rn, Spam-Bots and so much more, wonder if we shouldnt, as this RU-vidrs Fans, report Hovind? I mean, i got so many Scammers who try to rob Grannies and Grandpas deleted from Social Media, i even claim boldly to have stopped the Spam-Bots before they Unite and start calling themselves SKYNET! So of course i'm the one who asks this comment-section: Shouldnt we go to Hovinds Channel and report him? ? This really comes down to one question: Is our disagreement with Hovind just 'taste' and 'opinion' or is he 'objectively harmful' or such? Cause THAT makes the difference between Cancel-Culture and its 180 Degree Opposite. ?
Dude, same. I'm a Christian as well, though someone like Kent would probably disagree, but the way he presented himself here was not appropriate at all. I'm going to ignore the whole "trying to convince" thing because he wasn't even doing that, he was just being mean. And if you're gonna make a video about someone, at least know what you're talking about. I have only know about this person for two days and in the few videos I watched, I know he isn't gay. The smug "a-ha" Kent seemed to have when he mentioned the possibility of a genetic component to homosexuality had me angry because I was like "but...he's not gay? If you're gonna make a video criticizing someone, at least know about them." All his claims that he had been "brainwashed" because he listened to professors, was he any less brainwashed when he was consuming and believing Kent's views? It's just so childish
@@ninja_tank25 Kenth Hovind, David Riverdale, the Homophobic people that GMS called out, and of course some extremly 'intense' Muslim-RU-vidrs... I wonder if we shouldnt use the Report-System that RU-vid offers, to get them removed. I mean, it all comes down to if our disagreement with him is about 'taste' and 'opinion' or about 'objective harmful content and such' - as knowing this difference, as i always preach, makes the differnece (!) between Cancel-Culture and its Opposite... I often do that and consider myself a proud expert: Over time, i got a lot removed, from P0rn to Mobbing - and of course our beloved lil friends, the Spam-Bots. This and more. I often report, trying to be the opposite of c-culture. ...What do you think we should do now? Is our disagreement with David and Kenth and the others just 'taste' (in which case we'd be pathetic if we report them), or are they actually harmful (which makes not acting much wrong)? ? What do you say, dear comment-reader? (Sorry if this comment was long and random and long).
@@jaredstark231 "Missing links" misrepresents how evolution research works. Every generation that has ever had children is a "link" to have billions of missing links is a given, because there are billions of fossils that haven't been found
A lot of the militants, Hovind especially, want nothing more than to make you lose that patience, they want a rise out of you. . For you to throw away logic and become emotional, bringing you down to them, levelling the playing field
Christian’s are all about facts. Atheist not so much. Christians teach facts teach truth. Atheist distort them. Why? Well they don’t like the idea of a creator of the universe telling them right from wrong…..
@@jdos5643 you're fucking hilarious. People like you have absolutely no idea what atheism even is, so stop talking about it like you're an expert. It's also insulting that you think you know the thoughts of literally every atheist. Not to mention the objective lie aboutthe relation of reality to both worldviews. Fucking halfwit
The cognitive dissonance and arrogance necessary to believe that evolution by natural selection is the dumbest theory in the world is more profound than, well, the theory of evolution by natural selection.
@@sholahverassa8582 I agree with you. He knows enough to recognize an audience desperate to give SOMEONE, ANYONE money to give them a shred of hope for their creationist beliefs.
Yes, because God is "divine" so he has the power to do that, while Kent fails to understand basic physics and not so basic physics that is part of the big bang- and the evolution theory.
Yeah... I'm a Christian. I love hearing out atheist channels. This old dud is dull in both love and intelligence and that's cringy. He doesn't represent crap.
Every group has some bad apples, all Christians are not like Kent much like how all athiests are not like Mao or Stalin, it's about the individual, not the organization
I'm an atheist while my parents and sister are devout Christians. When my older half-brother (dad's kid) that I never knew about reached out to me, I wanted to get to know my brother while the rest of my family (including our father) rejected my brother. I also was disowned by my mother for a few months for continuing to talk to and meeting my brother. It still blows my mind that I was being the more "Christian" than my Christian family.
@David Anewman lol what? The Bible allows slavery and says women are property and you are accusing us of treating people like animals? Wow dude, you are stupid.
Faith is belief without evidence. Its rare to find a preacher with both faith and wisdom. I feel like i can agree with a lot of what he says about the hostility. I have been an atheist since my youth and every conversation with religious people other than my direct family ended with "believe or your worthless." Why would i be kind to people who treated me so horribly. Fortunately i have now found friends who will agree to disagree.
@Andrea Catalano Nope they simply didnt believe in indoctrination. They let me explore the world on my own and make my own decisions. Ironically i''m a conservative leaning centrist atheist, i deal with alot of disdain from both side of the religious and political conversations
You don't know me from any other stranger on the internet, but after watching this video, I had to comment. I grew up a Southern Baptist Evangelical. I was in my teens when I was introduced to Kent Hovind's work, and I latched on tight to it. I respected this man, revered this man, thought he was THE authority on Creationism & Science. Because I, like you, loved science. I eventually got the chance to meet him in person, and I was in awe (even though he was dismissive of my existence and overall rude, but I'm not here to disparage the man) because I was meeting my "hero." Fast forward a decade or so, after leaving my faith and gradually deconstructing everything I grew up believing, completely changing my entire world view, I never gave Kent Hovind another thought. Until now. You made this video 3 years ago but I'm seeing it for the first time just now. Thank you for doing what you do, from the deepest depths of my heart. We genuinely need more people like you in this world. I am so very glad your channel came across my recommendations, and I look forward to watching more of your content.
Best part is that the one with no brain cells (Kunt Hovind) is accusing the other (Drew, the normal one with far more brains cells) of having no brain cells. Hilariously ironic, but it gets annoying when your only argument is insults and “because god said so”. We have a few centuries worth of refined evidence and repeatable experiments confirmed by countless scientists and he’s got interpretations from a 2k year old storybook. Who seems more reliable?
Esteban Prince, No, because science and the Bible said so - Kent is just telling the truth like it is and arguing against it shows ignorance no matter how you attack the man. Listen to the information without bias against the person and do your own research to get a full understanding. There is life, truth and the way or is it a stumbling block for you? Find out before it is too late. One way or another it will be too late. What is your wager?
@Timothy Mostad Sadly, yes. Perhaps even more sad is that Eric hasn't inherited his father's mental issues and just chose to become a con-man pushing the same crap as his dear old dad.
Hi Drew, my son showed me this video today. As a fundamentalist evangelical, mildly conservative mennonite, I feel compelled to express how appalled I am at Kent's horrible response! He is obviously an ignorant buffoon who should include himself in the mockers and scoffers. I am deeply saddened by his hostile response. I am equally impressed by your gracious and compassionate outlook towards those who disagree with you. More Christians need to have that open and loving perspective, rather than arrogance like Kent. I lost respect for him many years ago, when it was discovered he had doctored evidence of dinosaurs and humans living at the same time. He is definitely NOT a good representative of true Christianity!
Can you be more specific about the falsified evidence? There's a distinct possibility I was taught this "evidence" as fact and I'd like to know what it is. A Google search has not been super helpful.
I love the hypocrisy when he quotes a verse about scoffing, meanwhile him and his friends in the background are laughing and mocking a young man who is being totally serious, open, and honest. Shame on them.
You don’t understand that scoffer means a different word in Aramaic which is what the Bible is written in. Scoffer in this verse means unbeliever. Kent and his friends weren’t being hypocrites.
Alan Thompson this person who commented said Kent was scoffing using a verse in the Bible and that particular verse uses scoffer in a different way than we use it today. People still speak Aramaic today it is not a lost language read more.
"that's the dumbest theory in the world son" yeah, the theory that we came from dirt and that we only multiplied from 2 original humans is waaaaaaaaayy more believable
I also like how he says we came from a rock.. While we didn't. We came from an ape species millions of years ago which came from bacteria etc etc . Has he even done his research lmao
@@nikolasmad9340 im pretty sure most people, believe in god or not, knows that god apparently made adam and eve who somehow created like a billion people by their own
@@johnpayne5590 Hey, can i ask rather randomly for your Opinion on somethin'? Here, have two Links-to-comments and look for yourself: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-leIGa-9c9xg.html&lc=UgxJnjkfamugHGobDKh4AaABAg.97Q5nzUGsBJ9QZhOpEFTSR ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-leIGa-9c9xg.html&lc=UgxJnjkfamugHGobDKh4AaABAg.97Q5nzUGsBJ9QlO8hZSqdS They verbally attack people and have no intend to stop. Ever. Pairing this with their 'Lets atttttack all who believe in Evolution'-Mindset, i ask straight: Could you report/flag? Can you 'help'?
This was so frustrating to watch. Through the entire thing, he presents ZERO arguments or evidence. Instead, he spends the whole time insulting and misrepresenting you like this is some sort of Comedy Central roast. He's a joke, a bully, and an asshole.
BE the opposite of cancel-culture then! Report/Flag Hovind! Or is our disagreement with him just 'taste' and 'opinion'? Cause that question makes all the difference in the world. Cancel-Culture or its opposite, what's it gonna be?
OMG, that's the perfect way of describing it! I would NEVER wanna play GI Joe with Kent Hovind! His army man can shoot nukes out his butt, catch bullets in his teeth and if he dies he just rewinds time and comes back to life! 😂😂😂
@@GameDevNerd Dont just talk; act! Go and use the report-button that youtube provides! Its not C-Culture IF its not about 'Taste' and 'Opinion' but about 'being objectively harmful'. Many seem to not know how this works, but yeah, now you know. Youre welcome. Its not like the report-option itself is 'eeeeeviiiiil', duh. Some have abused the System, YES, but does that mean you should not report anyone ever (like Hovind or whoever?)? NO!
I went to a catholic college while identifying as Buddhist. On our first day we all had to attend a welcoming mass, during which the father- father John- began with, “i don’t care what god you believe in or even if you don’t believe in god at all! But I want you kids to know that you are always welcome to come talk to me about whatever it is that you do or do not believe in. And I knew people- atheists, Catholics, Muslims and everything in between who would go to him and have intelligent, thoughtful and respectful discussions. He was a great guy.
There is very little similarity between Jesus and most of the people who claim to follow him. I think there's a whole hell of a lot of people who think they're in the Good Shepherd's flock who would end up on the goat side of the sheep and the goats parable.
@@vintagearisen Heres an Idea: RU-vid does have a Reportbutton. And RU-vid does have Hovind. How about the crazy idea to combine those 2 facts and/or remember the fact that the reportbutton was originally intended to be used to help the Plattform? ?
he might be in a sadomasochistic relationship with his brain, tieing it up, hanging it upside down, dripping wax on it, you never know what he picked up in prison ;)
As an Agnostic/Atheist, and with this being your third video I have watched, previously not knowing about your religious past, it does explain what felt strange; it is the way you speak, eloquent and perfectly calm, the way that everyone always says a „good Christian“ should, and actually argue a point the way a (good) teacher from here in Germany would, something that is extremely rare to see outside of that specific dynamic, and it is quite refreshing. Have a good one man!
All he does is insult, twist, and dismiss your experiences. It's honestly really hurtful and reminds me a lot of how my dad would gaslight me. Honestly had to pause a lot because it got a bit triggering but your calm nature really helped me through the video 😅
His calm demeanor helped me a lot throughout this video too. As someone who has always been surrounded by religious people, I’ve always had anxiety about people mocking me/thinking less of me for my atheistic world view. Kent is a personification of my worries, and it honestly makes me feel so good to hear someone respond to that aggression
Tony Lund Which is (if you’ll allow me to continue the metaphor) why you start with the branch of the tree rather than sawing through the trunk at the first sign of trouble.
That is what his belief system does to human development. This is one of the many provable ways that theism and xtianity in particular are bad for humanity.
5:20 I love how Kent just explains that if you beat someone into submission, they will accept your ideas, which is as toxic as I would expect it from a true young earth creationist
Truth is often inconvenient but you need not look further than the governments monopoly on violence to understand that he is correct. 1 Peter 3:15 But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect As for me, I hope everyone can have understanding or at thee very least read chapter 22 of Luke.
As a Christian, I am constantly embarrassed by the "arguments" made by my brothers and sisters. We are supposed to love our neighbors. This is far far far from loving. We are also called to "be ready to give an answer for what you believe" and so few of us actually do that. It is so sad, and embarrassing.
@Paul Gauthier So are you also are also out there ensuring votriolic atheists are not representing us? Sorry man but I think your very negative answer was not adequate to Theatomics comment. He is free to share his feelings and I thank him for that.
@@Nuklearpirat if he follows the bible, then being gay is a sin. that is not loving thy neighbor. saying i will going to hell because i do not follow their religion is not love.
@@davidewersphotography1013 that depends on which bible he follows, as there are versions where being gay is not a sin (instead saying that sleeping with children is a sin, which is much more reasonable). Also, many Christians I have seen and know personally simply do not follow those parts of the bible, as opposed to some Atheists who are actually homophobic. Let's not try to assume people's beliefs just because they say "I'm Christian".
“Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.” Genesis 2:7 When you accuse someone of believing we all came from rocks as a way of dismissing them while preaching from a book that says that we all came from rocks.
lol i was thinking along those lines too. I mean the name Adam literally means Red Earth, meaning clay. Which last i checked falls under a mineral. Which is a type of rock.
The book of Genesis was never meant to be taken literally. Unfortunately, a lot of my fellow Christians don't understand that concept, like the con man in this video. I apologize if anyone gives you a hard time for not thinking one time God willed everything into existence the way we see it today.
The kindness and compassion you show in the way you speak about someone who so clearly despises you for not being a believer of their specific dogma... It's amazing. Thank you for this video, really refreshing to see a wholesome skeptic community exists.
All True Believers are like Kent. It's never an honest difference of opinion. If you're not on the TB's side, it's because you are "defective". They have no choice: to admit they have an honest difference of opinion is to admit the possibility they might be wrong. That is not allowed. Faith is a very fragile thing indeed.
@@lordkelvin100thompson8 I don't know anyone that argues against Young Earth Creationism who admits the possibility of being wrong, including myself. I mean, sure, scientists might be wrong about the specific age of the universe give or take a billion, but is there any chance that the Earth is 6,000 years old? No. It's not just a difference of opinion. There are solid scientific reasons for asserting that the Earth and universe are very very old. It's not even a debate. There is no controversy. It's not just an honest difference of opinion. If you see someone ranting and raving on the street corner about the world ending in a week, are you like "Yeah, well, that's just, lke ,your opinion man?" No. THat person is nuts and has no valid basis for their claims. It's not just a difference of opinion. You're best to simply not engage the person at all. This is what makes ."debates" on this topic so difficult. We just shouldn't do it. If a Creationist wants to get legitimate scientific answers to things, they will have to seek it out just like GMS did. And those who don't care about science at all will probably never be swayed. There's nothing to be gained by engaging in any direct debate. People just get more dug in. I have debated Creationists at lot in my time and I've seen exactly ONE Creationist come around to science and reason, but guess what. It wasn't someone who was dug in. He came into the forum honestly seeking out answers and evidence that he was sheltered from since a young age. Again, just like GMS. If they come out swinging with the whole "You believe your grandfatherr was a rock!" line, there's no hope for them. If only faith WERE fragile. It's way too strong... in my opinion.
@@__Luke__ Might want to look up how to use that word before you try and point fingers. He's denouncing a term that has been used to justify pain, torture, even killing, on top of the countless generations of abuse in the name of 'saving them'. Drew as a example of trying to shelter their children from ideas deemed wrong to the detriment of their child's potential. Telltale speaks of the 'christian love' of the Mormons to shun familiy members who leave the faith even if they are children and let him to shun his older brother and then be shunned by his mother who now only communicates is exchanges where her love has the price tag of returning in full to a cult he escaped and actively fights against.
Christian Lad well yes you would be right in that assumption, but that ignores the implications of having those types of people in your belief system and what brought them there, as an example, why are there so many homophobes in Christian circles? And the answer is that the Bible was written in a time and place that shunned homosexuality.
@@__Luke__ I love Christian persecution porn. That's not religious bigotry, it's describing a euphemism which is quite commonly used for being hateful or abusive, not religious bigotry.
Ree Webster my interpretation of the Bible says that respecting others is key to happiness and not murder. I do not get what some of those extremists are talking about and why they abuse others to spread their religion. That’s not what I read.
Any argument that begins with "the bible says" automatically invites the question "why should we take the bible seriously", which is a question he always avoids.
I agree they say it's the word of god, but it's a traditional manuscript written by man, that has created so many wars, as they tend to murder people who are different in the name of God, who had nothing to do with their sick perverted ways. It is all man-made.
Because if you look at the religions even before Christianity or even Judaism, ancient people did believe in some kind of diety, but they did not have a book with written instruction, and most things were created out of human logic and understanding of life at the time. I simply believe because of the fact that we cannot disprove it either, I am open-minded and until science can prove 100% how we as humans were first created, there is always going to be that one thought what if. I just don't believe in following some bullshit rules according to some person's view of what is right and wrong, speaking from a gay person's side. I believe all things work together with the same energy flow, and there must be more to this than meets the eye. They have not walked in my shoes or even know how it feels to be excluded in society for being different. And religion in the name of a god has caused more death and destruction than any other thing. It drives people mad and is power-hungry! and that's what I cannot accept, Id rather be an atheist than believe in an evil religion!
@@leeanne333 As far as we currently understand science nothing can be proven 100% for example there is none zero chance that this comment came into existence by youtube servers ram being bombardet with comsmic rays in just the right way. It is just at what point you consider the chance being close enough to 100% to treat it as 100%. If you want actual 100% you will never believe anything. Just a small nitpick don't take it as me disagreing with the rest of what you wrote.
Finding your channel was the first step in my escape from fundamentalism. I was so imprisoned. I was depressed, and usually suicidal. Thank you for playing a part in getting me out of that. I’m finally happy and comfortable in who I am.
Not that any of you care but you ought to know the level of censorship that is going on this channel. If you were a private group that would be one thing but since it's open to the public and this guy spends a lot of time smearing people when he should be debating speaks volumes. We don't have to agree but you should know when your being used.
“He mostly just disagrees with me, says something condescending, states his opinion and then moves on. There’s no point in arguing for me since Kent isn’t really arguing with me” That really does sum up Kent’s methods of “debunking” and “debating” Funny how Kent will occasionally claim he’s “trying to help you” in between 15 insults.
He knows he can’t do anything but attack and be condescending because he knows he’s a fraud he knows all his points are laughable. I honestly don’t even believe Jen believes his own nonsense it’s just a grift for him at this point
Iran is wide because they are very religious, but North Korea is communist, so it's Marxist, in the minds of this type of people they're Atheist liberal progressive and evolutionist trying to destroy western civilization and Christianity
And then goes on about how its all a conspiracy to shut him up from "telling the truth." While he accuses Drew of being brainwashed and brainwashing us.
@@vanguardoftruth4166 What we do in the past is a pretty good indication of what we'll do in the future, as well as our character. Dude is a felon. His "scientific" takes are all easily-addressed with evidence, but to pretend his criminal past shouldn't have any impact on his standing as a moral authority is willfully idiotic. Registered Independent, fwiw.
Ten minutes of this video, and I feel disturbed. It has been more than a year since I started on a path like yours Drew. One of the main reasons I started was just the disgust, the anger I feel when I see this way of "defending" one's positions. I mean, if God exists, how can you, a believer, think that he can appreciate such an approach? How can he glorify your arrogance? Do you expect a reward? This video made me feel this wound again, I thank you for that.
I, like you, grew up in a strongly Christian home. I went to church four times a week for the first 13 years of my life. I got up early to have devotion before school, I read scripture, I prayed, and I sincerely believed. However, I have always liked learning. I read from books beyond the Bible constantly. And like many young boys, I was fascinated with dinosaurs. My mom accepted this at first, though I was required to cross out all references to the age of the earth being older than 6000 years old and cite Genesis. However when I was eleven and got "saved" for the last time, she decided it was time for me to become a young Christian man and put aside childish things. She collected all of my sizable dinosaur book collection and burned them in a barrel behind the garage. Watching those books burn, I understood even at that age that burning books was abhorrent and wrong, and that it was only done out of fear. I couldn't understand why someone would fear knowledge, or viewpoints they did not understand, enough to burn them. If you ideas are good, then they should be able to withstand scrutiny from other ideas. If you have to burn other ideas to reinforce your ideas, then your ideas probably aren't that strong. I started asking questions that she and other religious leaders in my congregation couldn't answer. Scientific questions. Theological questions. Philosophical questions. The light started shining through the cracks. I couldn't deny the perspective I was gaining just in the fear my mother and religious leaders displayed towards questions. Their hostility towards outside knowledge was telling. Finally, when I was thirteen, I decided I no longer believed. I couldn't say my faith had ever done anything for me, and I was tired of being told that dinosaurs were just tests of my faith. Inane, unsubstantiated dogmatic drivel no longer satisfied my thirst for real knowledge, real answers. My mom was devastated, but understood that at that age, she couldn't really coerce, persuade, or threaten me. I had outgrown her ability to control me, intellectually and physically. She was convinced she had lost my eternal soul. I never told my mom that she was the reason I seriously started questioning my faith, that her book burning had lost my eternal soul. The last time I left that church was like the free man in Plato''s Allegory of the Cave stepping into the light for the first time. I felt free, no longer restrained by the chains of dogma, blinded by faith in the darkness of the church as clergy cast shadows on a wall and tried to explain them to me. Like you, and that man in Plato's Allegory, I was called crazy and ridiculed when I tried to explain my conversion, and this whole new world I had found in the light. I know now that few things in life are certain, but I can never again be a believer, a Christian. I can not un-see, un-know all the things I have learned. My questions have been answered not by faith and theology, but by science and reason. I know it is a very personal journey, so thank you for sharing, and for taking the opportunity to encourage productive discourse on a sensitive subject.
@@stormlord1984 Then USE THE REPORT-OPTION that RU-vid provides! Dont just complain, ACT! Hovinds RU-vid-Channel is one in a long list: Racism, $exism, P0rn and of course Homophobic Stuff. Oh, and lets not forget a rather 'new' thing: Channels that scream "Take your Masks off NOW!! Covid is a LIE! REBEL!!!" You CAN get them removed, so dont make excuses that you cant. I got many of all the mentioned removed, so it IS possible! So please BE the Opposite of Cancel-Culture and go actively search for this stuff (well, Hovind is already a specific target, so no search needed there; just flag him!). You can do it. Just ask yourself if your/our disagreement with Hovind is just 'Taste' and 'Opinion' or 'objective'!! Cause that makes the difference between Cancel-Culture and its 180 Degree Opposite!
While hes also cosplaying as a doctor 😆 I don't even think his fake PhD is in medical, it's like he's assuming all doctors are medical doctors lol he really is an idiot.
@John Marston Anyway: Please use the reportbutton of RU-vid as originally intended: To stop Hate-Preachers and Lunatics like Kent Hovind... We need to do something; we cant just sit on our bootys and laugh about him form afar, WHILE he is doing actual Damage. Please at least think about it... it costs nothing to report, after all...
This is completely irrelevant and a very shitty thing to do. I completely disagree with his points and his video is completely dumb but let's not comment on his personal issues. Don't be a dead brain 14 yr old.
@@riynu7774 when someone makes an actual point it is irrelevant to talk about their character, yes. But when someone only uses the same discredited arguments that they have used for the past decades and on top of that does some shady and straight up illegal stuff, I think it's fair to talk about it. Kent Hovind is and will probably continue to be the human embodiment of a headache, so warning others not to spend mental energy on that scam artist seems fair.
When theists make this argument I just point out that the Bible says man was made from dust which is just ground down rock....so if one way is acceptable and another is not does that make them a hypocrite. Shuts down that argument fast.
@@ThyBountyHunter that’s a really good point. I need to actually read a lot of these religious texts more deeply and pull as much of this info from them as possible. Not to prove people wrong but to show them the truth. All that being said that it a good talking point to bring up.
@@lakakuk4499 No scientists have said anything about what started the Big Bang. Thats Christians putting words into scientist’s mouth. But what we do know is that space is expanding thus the Big Bang Theory holds.
Wow, looked this guy up on Wikipedia and holy smokes his legal troubles are insane. Ironic he’s talking so much about beating and assaulting atheists when he was convicted of domestic violence 😬
It’s heartbreaking to see an ambassador of “love” treat anyone this way. It reminds me of how I felt when my family and friends turned on me when I left the church. Not even the religion, just the church, and suddenly they treat me like a foolish, childish stranger. Thank you for rising above this, and treating it how it is: a feeble attempt to one-up someone they should treat with kindness.
Kent always says whack them in a playful way and out of Christian love. He’s not insulting them or calling them bad words. You be surprise how it’s not so the case with the atheist community who use verbal insults and hate towards those who love truth
@@jdos5643 athiests dont bomb countries out of belief, athiests dont create "whack a christian" or threaten them because of their belief, and no he doesnt say it in a playful manner, stop your lies already, kents nothing more than a false christian, just like you, who use religion to attack people because they have nothing else to do, he is literally saying he enjoys thinking of bashing peoples brains in because of their disbelief in god, he deserves to be in a mental asylum
@@ailospjellok7475 no I honestly had tons of atheist give me verbal insults simply for believing what I believe in. Then you have atheist dictators through history be responsible for millions of deaths in what they thought would hasten “natural selection” and survival of their fittest propaganda. The atheist community has been actively been seen parading around Christian groups simply to call them stupid or brainwashed. This is nothing new.
@@Jesus_paid_it_all the hell do you mean he still believes? He literally just say he is ostracized out of his community for not Believing. If God is so loving and caring, why does he hate atheists?
Exactly. This is just a Monty Python routine, a comedy sketch by someone who doesn't know he's doing a comedy sketch and wonders why everyone is laughing.
“There is no hate like Christian love” and Kent Hovind is a shining example of that. I remember when my best friend was in college, majoring in geology, his girlfriend’s parents gave him a video. Neither of us knew what exactly what it was. It was one of Hovind’s “Dr. Dino” videos. We sat and laughed at it until we really started to realize he really believed what he was saying. We honestly thought it was a joke. This guy makes so many bastardized unscientific claims and even I can refute with ease, and I don’t have a college degree. I know good, truly loving Christians, am I am sad that people like Kent give them a bad name. Heck the pastor at my brother’s church has a science degree and even uses science in his sermons. He has found a way to meld the two, and I’m sure he would find Kent’s views nonsensical. My family isn’t really overly religious but I have yet to “come out” to my entire family as an atheist. They all know I have a very critical view of organized religion as a whole but they still think I believe a “god”. Probably not going to use Christmas dinner as my time to let them know.l though.
I think I could’ve beaten Ken in a debate when I was 12. You need bare minimum critical thinking to rebut everything he is saying. Actually, I could have debated him even younger and won. He doesn’t have any point that isn’t him just disagreeing. That is a level of close mindedness that requires you to be death and blind to seal up some holes in your head to reach.
@@RobertMcBride-is-cool the problem is, debating him would be like playing chess with a pigeon. He'd knock over the pieces, shit on the board, and claim victory.
He's transparently in it for the christian donor money, as evidenced by his felony convictions, but he's clearly upset he got caught and equally upset he missed the q-anon train (since he's been laying its foundation for decades prior).
Its not bad Christians giving good ones a bad name.. It's good christians giving bad christians centuries worth of coat tails to ride. Centuries worth of "benefit of the doubt". The vast majority of christian behavior I see in public is harmful to the general public. Some of it is charitable, and some of it is just defending them self from the bad behavior of the majority by claiming it's a tiny minority.
Entirely how I feel including with my own family except I still believe in God. I'm just growing more hesitant to call myself a Christian due to how much people like Kent Hovind, Greg Locke, and many others are giving the mere word a terrible rep. I think making it a religion dumbs the faith down anyway and turns it into nothing more than a rule book
He said he could debate drew, but all he did was insult him and call him brainwashed(which is ironic because the perception of brainwashing is dependent on personal views)
@Alex McAuliff of course i have respect to begin with. I mean, he is a human being with the same intelligent species as me, Homo Sapiens, which is capable of intelligent thinking and reasoning. And i do believe that we should treat everyone respectfully untill we realize that they doesnt deserve it. But god damn that is one of the fastest 0respect% speedrun i have seen in my life.
I am a 64 yr old widow who shares your beliefs. I am very proud of the of the manner in which you Presented yourself and in doing so presented me. I will be following you. Thank you so much. Pat
The repeated use of "Son". I've long disliked being spoke down to in such a manner by an elder. Unless you happen to be my Father. As far as your "grandpa being a rock" Well, Adam was made from clay, clay under pressure becomes rock form, so..... Thanks for your kind take on discourse. It's to easy to hurl insults and cut down "the other" whomever it be.
yup, that's how flat earthers act normally as well, im not surprised at all. When u know u are wrong, u need a something ridiculous to keep credibility in your group as "fighter for what is "right"", because otherwise u are irrelevant and noone cares about you except a small group. Provocativity is what brings the views
Psychology names this "transmission". It helps the offender to implict violence into his opponent without actually acting out violence against his opponent physically. Same goes for the countless personal insults. Its basically like a bully smacking his own hand while looking at the bullied person, implicting "you're about to get beaten up, just wait till school ends". No words neccessary. Its a rhetorical figure not of speech but of gestics and mimics so to say, but a very violent one and therefore really proves that the theist has zero arguments against him and just tries to "bully him back into place". But maybe its directed to the theists in Hovind's own audience as well, like "don't you dare doubt the fairytale I told you all the years. Not after you blindly followed half of your life without thinking like dull sheeps."
I am the only atheist in my family and my parents accepted that and just told me: we don't care what you believe as long as you can respect others and their beliefs.
Pretty sure you will say the same to your kids if they choose to be creationist, may the tradition of mutual respect keep on passing to future generations.
You can get a dr in divinity yourself, and get it pretty quick. The author Hunter S. Thompson who the Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas Movie is based off got one just so he could call himself Dr. LOL So I am sure Kent just has one of those. Thus, he can call himself a Dr. just like a chiropractor can.
@@YoungEarthCreation How often do you see someone holding a doctorate in divinity wearing a stethoscope? And his "doctorate" was achieved at an unaccredited university and was in christian education, not divinity.
Kent doesn't have a single legitimate degree of any kind because he bought them from a mail order diploma mill that had no teaching staff and which allowed anyone to buy a faux doctorate and get it without having to earn it by studying or doing any work. His real education was two semesters of community college.
I like Ken he make me an atheist with his ridiculous lies . You can see his lies from miles away it glows with a big smell and his ridiculous act he make a full of himself
