I also like how both Miraz (the king) and Peter seem to be gradually learning how a real armor works in combat. Towards the end, they start using some attacks and defenses that are actually valid in armored combat :D
The instadeath of henchmen and the apparent inefficacy of their armour is actually 100% realistic and has a perfectly valid and solidly logic reason: The Bad King bought the armors from the same manufacturer that makes the armors for the stormtroopers.
Actually, stormtrooper armor, as well as phase I and phase II clone trooper armor is made to spread the pain all over your body instead of in one place. My bet is that stormtroopers just have shit pain tolerance.
If you watch the Fauns (if you are referring to Lion Witch and Wardrobe from 2005), they are carrying Katanas and Naginatas and other Japanese weapons, the Centaurs carry European weapons, the Minotaurs carry Indo-Persian or Arabian weapons, and the Satyrs seem to be carrying Egyptian weapons (I think they are Egyptian). The giants, of course, are carrying clubs.
@@romanlegionhare2262 And here I thought they were all using Narnian weapons! lol jk I know what u mean. :D That is interesting though, because where the heck would they get Japanese weapons in Narnia? In the books there are countries populated by humans (Archenland, Calormen, the Lone Islands etc.), but these seem to be mostly of European, Middle Eastern or maybe Indian descent. So it makes sense that most people in this world would have castles, European style armor etc. but Japanese? :D But of course, as we have seen on this channel, weapons change over time, and completely different cultures invent surprisingly similar weapons (like I had never heard of the messer, and would have sworn it was a katana if I saw one). So maybe my joke about them all being Narnian weapons wasn't too far off. But regardless, you're right about the weapons 2005 movie - interesting find! :) Hey Shad, is a katana or naginata the best weapon for a faun? FANTASY RE-ARMED!! :D
@@eyesofthecervino3366 I think I read them a long time ago but I think they were some kind of abridged version called childrens classics or something like that.
@@graceswan4353 They are not that enchanted. The only enchantment is her arrows can't easily miss so her shooting through gaps makes sense but not her holding the bow. Actually that bow is ridiculously small.
nameless ok if we set aside the smallness of the bow bc of the fact that the movies aren’t accurate to the books - she’s a trained archer so she’s definitely strong enough to pull a bowstring back properly, and the enchantment means that even if she doesn’t the arrow will likely find itself burrowed within whoever she was aiming at
"Good thing Edmund knows how to reset a dislocated arm." As I recall, at this point in the series, hadn't they lived out their entire adult lives in Narnia before returning to Earth back in their young bodies, before then returning to Narnia later? It's been a while since I read the books, but I'm pretty sure they all know a lot more than you'd expect someone their age to know.
@Stoneryoda 937 Yes, but they haven't lost the memories they had while they were in Narnia. They're essentially wise old kings and queens in the *bodies* of children/preteens.
Yeah they stayed in Narnia for about 12 years so if my memory is correct he has about 25 years worth of experience and an even higher mental age because a) he betrayed his siblings for sweets, consequently they nearly died in battle, Aslan had to get slaughtered and nearly all of Narnia was doomed, b)he suffered a mortal wound in said battle, and c) he was crowned king at the age of 11(?) and not any king no he was called King Edmund the Just. Each of those events would have made any child mature far to soon but with it all happening in about a week... I really don't envy him
@@boltactionartist9475 I feel really sorry for them. I mean we saw how Peter fared with being degraded from High king Peter the Magnificent in the beginning of Prince Caspian when he started a brawl over being brushed, Susan has pretty much the same problems, Edmund has to deal with being the Just while everyone thinks of him as the petty little bully he was (we see a little bit of how that feels in the silver chair in Eustace talk with Jill), and Lucy once a queen is now going to get scolded by her mother for so much as boiling water because everyone will think of her as a naive 9 year old.
For the general mess these scenes are, I will say one thing: I really appreciate the Spanish look of the Telmarine armor. Solid Spaniard designs are very underrepresented in fantasy.
That's true but I would think the Telmarines from the books were more like Norsemen or Normans.
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@@jeffreygao3956 The sea fairing origins made the film makers decide on Spanish colonizer descendants. And it's pretty good choice cuz it add a layer of authenticity to the racism subplot that star vs, tried and failed miserably!
@ Norsemen were seafarers too and it helps that both the Normans and Telmarines had a king called 'the Conqueror.'
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@@jeffreygao3956 I seen some comments on other videos confused about how pirates as As-lan said made a civilization, the only logical deduction:"they we're descendants of Spanish colonizers"! You gotta admit it makes sense.
Hey you evil overlords out there, are you tired of the cost of buying armor for your henchman? Do you want something stylish and intimidating, but also affordable to equip your hordes of nameless cannon fodder? Try new Kleenex brand armor! Looks just like the real thing, but at 1/10 the weight and 1/100 the cost! The henchmen will love it too, not that their opinions matter. Just listen to this review: "My old armor was so hot, and would chafe terribly on this forest moon. Not so with new Kleenex armor! Now all I have to worry about is furry midgets with stone spears, and what are the odds of that?"
If that's the route we're gonna go for, it kinda makes sense for his character. He uses ceremonial armor because to him it's all ceremony. He doesn't take Peter's challenge seriously because in his eyes Peter is still just a kid.
If and when a king has to rely on his armor to protect him, it probably doesn't matter anymore anyway. In fact, the power that a fancy, expensive armor projects boosts the morale of the guards so helps more. Also... "Look! The king is wearing his proper protective armor! God we must be in real sht!"
Atlwast it has decent protection except missing in some parts. His shield wasn't bad. Better than a knight kite shield, I'm the fight scene between the king and Peter the king even uses it to hit him with it after being disarmed. Also that its quite alot of armor underneath. Peter only having a good helmet which lacked abit of vision especially when the helmet isn't as good as the kings which allowed separate eye sockets and the mask being protecting except not around the necks but atleasg useful like around the ears they can hear battle commands and such than one helmet all in one where it's noisy in the helmet hearing urself. I would agree it looks ceremonial armor, tho it doesn't look bad for on the battlefield or a duel.
All of this is easilly explainable: all the weapons have +10 armor penetration, while the heroes just have legendary armor with exceptionaly good stats.
And since they are probably all given by Santa Claus, it logically means they are only given for good guys. Also, apparently you need to live in Narnia to get one -> native Narnians had centuries to collect those before the Telmarians arrived.
Having had a chainsaw cut on my leg in a similar place as the king's cut, I can tell you most certainly that bumping into things was very painful. A punch like Peter delivered to the king's leg would be incredibly painful. Maybe not as much as they show it to be, but it would definitely suck a lot.
When you first get cut you get all of the adrenaline and shock that minimizes the pain. Hopping around on the wound in combat and getting hit again once some of the pain tolerance dies down probably does hurt a ton.
Evil King takes a MORD-hau (MURDER-stroke) to the face... Does not phase him. Gets a lovetap on an already bandaged superfical cut on the leg and nearly breaks down :/
Peter does have a metal rim on his gauntlet (you can see it clearly at 39:59), I think it's fine. Granted, Miraz should've reacted more to the mordhau and Peter should've reacted more to the elbow.
It's weird though, because if the cut is especially tender, and you're at the end of your rope, sometimes all it takes is a little moderate strike to just sap the crap out of you. It sucks, it's not opportune, but after a long protracted fight just getting hurt can shut you down. I had it happen to be a couple of times in sparing in karate when you're trying to work on your endurance so you're going at it all out for solid minutes and then someone hits a bruise and that's just it your body can hit the shutdown switch. It's like that metaphorical wall I hear marathon runners talk about. Maybe Pete just got lucky. Adrenaline works, but it also wears off. Unfortunately in combat that means you're probably gonna die though.
The longer a wound is on you, even if shallow, the worse it'll hurt when getting hit. The truth is, even though the wound looked pathetic, it would've been enough to incapacitate an average human. Ever take a wound to the leg like that? If you did, you didn't put weight on it for some time while it healed.
@@TheFireHawk7i think he’s saying that the first wound drawn on the king in the book is a stab in his armpit (in the book its almost a fencing match where they keep going after stabbing eachother a but each) whereas in the film peter gets that first slash in on Miraz’s leg, not the armpit like in the book, and that’s the first wound he takes.
i think the people guarding the castle, seeing all this invasion and stuff, being outnumber, is more easy to just fall to the floor and pretend they die, than to fight and have an inescapable death, at least i would do it c:
Remember that in the last movie, they lived a good 20 years or so in Narnia, and then went back to England and had another couple years. Edmund probably learned how to reset a shoulder in the time they lived in Narnia, and they would fight in tourneys and things. Somehow peter never learned to fight armored opponents though.
Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke Wellington also don't forget that it was WWII and the middle of the London Blitz at the time in England. Lots of people had to pick up some first aid knowledge. But yeah, there's still no excuse for these kings to not know what the hell they're doing while fighting in full armor
When they went back to England, time did a re-set, and they lost the physical skills they had learned while 'growing up' in Narnia. Had to re-learn them in England.
I wonder if it would've been too brutal if the arrow got through his eye. That kind of injury could be more plausible and make the reaction more appropriate, i guess. Not that I knew, but I assume it would hurt a lot.
Is there anyone else who just wants to visit a castle, and do a tour, and then as they come to the part of explaining the machicolations, just scream it like: Tour guide: and the extensions you see on the towers are for- Me: *MACHICOLATIOOOONNSS!!!!*
5:28 - It's officially known as "the Law of Conservation of Ninjutsu: a single ninja is an unstoppable killing machine, whereas fifty ninjas can be slaughtered like children storming the Bastille," and "the Law of Plot Armor and Reverse Plot Armor: Heroes are untouchable, henchmen die from a stiff breeze." 12:50 - Ah yes, the famous Hollywood martial art of Flynning, named after Errol Flynn. Basically, it's easier and safer to teach actors Flynning than how to actually fight and/or choreograph a realistic-looking fight. One instance of in-universe justified Flynning is the famous duel at the top of the cliff in The Princess Bride: both men are master fencers who are so bored with always outmatching their opponents and are so happy that they've met an equal that they're both deliberately making the fight last as long as possible, plus neither of them really _wants_ to kill the other. (In the later showdown in the castle, the fights are quick, dirty, and brutal.) 15:15 - On top of everything else, even if that arrow somehow penetrated deep enough to do any actual damage, it looks like it hit that meaty bit below the shoulder and just to the side of the armpit, and _there aren't even any organs there!_ I mean, _maybe_ it could have gotten a bit of his lung, but there's literally zero reason for that guy to just instantly drop like that!
But Shad, it's a *family movie*. Can't have soldiers not going down instantly and instead rolling around on the ground with cut throats and bleeding from arrow wounds and such. I mean honestly, you wouldn't be able to hear any dialogue over the screaming.
Ive worked with stage combat and actual swordsmanship and I can confidently say that stage combat is WAAAAAAY different from actual effective sword combat. Be sure to mention that these techniques, like aiming for each others swords, rounded edges, and strange angles are so that actors, hopped up on adrenaline, don't actually hurt each other and ruin a production. Someone who tries to bring stage combat to a sword fight would get WRECKED, they would telegraph all their movements, have bad timing, and a terrible guard. Likewise if someone uses actual fighting techniques on set they would likely severely injure their buddy, even with a blunt sword. Also the quick and subtle movements of an actual dual likely wouldn't be able to be read by an audience, especially at distance. Its a different game. You'd think that Hollywood of all industries would be able to edit those things out assuming we wouldn't know better, buuut they didn't count on The Mighty Shad, those fools... love your videos. sorry the Markarth one got demonetized, that blows.
There is a brilliant book called the Crafting of Narnia that explains the design work behind all the armour and weapons. I would highly recommend it. This book also points out that all of the Telmarines are wearing brigantine not leather armour.
I love you. People always give me side eye when I mention "realism" in fantasy. Just because you have magic doesnt mean a sword slash across armor should instakill or that its not worth pointing out!
Shadiversity could you do it with Game of Thrones? I'm curious as to how realistic (aside from the obvious fantasy elementos) their fights could be, namely prince Oberyn vs the Mountain
Oh man, the Game of Thrones fights are one hell of a hilarious time. Especially Jon Snow is just... tears in the eyes every time. Fuckin' moron is fighting his own sword more than his opponent.
Only Peter the High King (sword and shield) and Queen Susan (bow and quiver). Oh, and Lucy got a dagger. Edmund wasn't present to meet Father Christmas -- he was busy betraying his sibs!
The weapons weren't magical. There was no indication in the books or the movies that they were magical. The Voyage of the Dawn Treader doesn't count. That movie was far too inaccurate.
@@jamesvalle9079 When Susan received the bow, Father Christmas said "With this bow, you will find it very hard to miss", implying at least that the bow was magical. The Horn and flask of healing potion were DEFINITELY magical, which suggests at least the possibility that the word Rhindon was also magical.
@@bradmiller2329 And according to this movie, the inability to miss is not affected by any armor that might be on the way of the arrow - and it seems to apply to throws as well. I just love how it makes sense in a weird way. :D
The way Shad says, "And he goes and strikes him with the crossguard!" at 1.25x speed (36:16) makes him sound like an excited sports announcer who just witnessed a crazy move in a match that no one could have seen coming, and just changed the momentum of the play. I love it!
@Jon Boy I'm just always so exparated by Peter and Caspian (especially Peter). His first worst to Caspian in the book are along the lines of "don't get me wrong, I don't want to take your throne, I simply want to show you the ropes". So many lifes are lost because they can't get their shit together for the sake of those inexperienced Narnians under their command. I understand that the change from High King to pupil/teenager is hard for all of them but I would have expected of him to be able to swallow his problems and do what is best for the people and not let frustration at the situation cloud his judgment. Edmund manages, it is possible.
I mostly just wish they'd have shown the face of the guard downstairs as his mate drops dead on the floor in front of him, and what unfortunate circumstance must've befallen him on the way to the alarm bells.
"It's fantasy, it's not supposed to be realistic!" I agree, this is a stupid argument. It comes down to willing suspension of disbelief. In order to accept amazing things in a story (any story, even non-fantasy stories), everything around it has to be grounded in reality, or at least consistent rules (like in sci-fi, where faster-than-light engines, weapons and tech may use B.S. Physics, but if you're consistent with the rules your made up, it's easier to accept). In Fantasy, if the setting is based on medieval-level technology, it should be realistic to that level. Then, if you want to introduce fantasy elements and creatures, the audience will accept them because they're playing the same rules.
We have a saying in writer circles, "I don't have to make it accurate. I just have to make you want to believe it is." Accuracy helps with that though. Just try to remember that it's never going to fool experts. My dad will pick out every wrong pre-1980s car in a film (Look this is supposed to be 1944, but that's a 46 Ford), or guns but he couldn't tell you that their sword techniques were bad or that they were hitting each other's swords and not at each other. Most of us aren't trying to deceive or do stuff wrong, just trying to deliver an enjoyable narrative.
@@geofff.3343 I agree plus in sword fights I give a little leeway because no one wants the actors to get killed (plus from what I heard it takes a lot of effort to learn how to use a sword) so they don't want to make it too accrete. Though with the armor not working and them not using effective weapons no
I know it's late but game of thrones perfectly sums this up. Despite the magic being less spectacular than other fantasy books, films or TV shows, it somehow grounds the very little magic and makes it seem unbelievable just simply because most of the world around it (except some minor things) are realistic in comparison to a real medieval setting. You accept things like dragons, wildfire, white walkers etc because everything else is so real and the people react to them how we would react, in awe. They don't act like they're used to them because really magic is unbelievable and GoT sums this up imo
I know it's late, but I recently watched the movie again, and Peter and Susan actually say they would deal with Miraz while Caspian saved his teacher, so they were on the way there anyway.
If I had a nickel for everytime a reactor missed that line and got confused on why Peter and Susan showed up in Miraz’s room, I’d have two nickels (Shad, and Badd Medicine)
It makes me sad to think of all the blood that was spilled in those battles. I don't know WHERE it was spilled, because you never see it onscreen. Must have gone somewhere...
The LIGHTSABAH drinking game. Every bad instakill from the heroes you have to take a shot. For this scene, we'll to need at least a quart. And a bucket.
Henchmen don’t have the armor that all main characters do . . . Plot Armor! Nothing can cut through it and combined with a Plot weapon nothing can defend against it. If they all had real armor then a random nobody could be a real threat.
3:55 On Griffins carrying the characters: "He could grip it by the husk." "It doesn't matter where he grips it, mate! A 1 oz bird cannot carry a 1 lb coconut! It's a matter of simple air-speed ratios!"
"I shall BASH at you as much as I can until SOMETHING happens!" ist yet another quote I want on a t-shirt. It also (metaphorically) describes my skills at social interaction! =)
Donsmacker1 It's frankly because in the books the Telmarines didn't win either. C.S. Lewis, did however make a point of describing how much more organized and powerful the Telmarine forces were compared to the Old Narnians, and just how hopeless the beginning campaigns were. The movie however does a poor job showing this. Old Nanria didn't have a chance without Aslan and the dryad army's help.
I own the chainmail shown at around 8:00 . The movie was filmed in my country and they did a huge sale after it selling props like these. Its aluminium, blacked and riveted.
At 29:20, when you're trying to figure out why Peter refuses his helm, I always assumed that it was because earlier in the match it had been knocked off...and so Peter felt he was honor bound not to wear it.
"It's fantasy" is actually the most stupid argument, as the rules that nature dictates if we want to wear armor would even apply to a minotaur. Of course the armor would have to be changed to fit such a creature, but basic requirements remain. And I love that you've mentioned minotaurs. There are too few games in which you have a chance to play or even see a good made minotaur. - Just look at the Minotaurs from Warhammer: Total War. Rolling into the enemies. So satisfying.
@@koreancowboy42 I know, which brings up a whole other topic about the ridiculousness of "balancing" a fantasy game for multiplayer even within the singleplayer / co-op campaign. This said, there are waaay too many games out there, which are not multiplayer, at best co-op, and are still being balanced as if they were online competitive games. Give me that unbalanced fantasy sh't.
Yeah, I was wondering if she is stronger than Ygritte. However, it doesn't seem to be since she's only about the level of Ripley from Aliens. ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XtoBFXSvD6Y.html )
Something I always found interesting about this movie is the armor and weapons the bad guys use. I might be long but I believe they are descended form Spanish explorers/settlers and their gear looks like a mix of medieval and conquistador weapons and armor. Almost like they took what they had and devolved it to fit their new environment.
Oh and I kinda like it that Peter just throws away all tactic and grace near the end of the fight. They're just two tired dudes, worn down and dizzy. Of course, it would have been better if the tactics that they did use prior to getting exhausted had been more reasonable.
What I have to say about arrows in fantasy: In Princess Mononoke THE KID WAS DECAPITATING PEOPLE'S HEADS CLEAN OFF WITH *STONE* ARROWHEADS Meanwhile in starwars they can't even hit the broadside of a barn with a PRECICION HIGH ENENGY WEAPON. We are doing something VERY wrong technologically, apparently.
I think the henchmen problem can be explained. They were probably poorly paid and they did not to fight to the death for their king. So once they got hit, they just lay on the ground and prentend to be died to be safe.
@28:00 with Edmund knowing how to set a shoulder could be justified by the fact the he technically has over a decade of combat experience from being in Narnia before. Then reset to a child when returning to our reality
That's why when people bring up their age to explain why they should have little combat experience this is my counter. By the ens of the first day back in Narnia they had already remembered most of what they learned before.
Yeah, they were kings (and Queens) for over a decade and with Jadis out of the way you can't tell me that there weren't creatures who were challenging the Pevensies (I mean Peter was 14, Lucy was 9). At least the boys have definitely been involved in fights over than the initial battle and the Pevensies are the kind of rulers to send at least one of them (most probably Edmund since Peter is High King and they seem to keep the girl out of the fights as much as possible (Susan being an archer and Lucy being among the medics)) to battle. All of them definitely know field medicine.
Also bear in mind these children lived during the WWII (their parents gone because of German air raid), they may actually saw some adult did this to others in the shelter
Peter's sword is explicitly the sword of the High King of Narnia, gifted to him by the local equivalents of deities. It survived many centuries in a cave without as much as a smudge of rust and show obvious magical properties throughout the movie series. Its an equivalent to Exalibur in a sense, so it cutting through armour in a similar manner to Valyrian steel, lightsaber or whatever is perhaps not at all strange.
It was HIS sword, not the sword of the High King of Narnia (he was the only one). It was given him by Father Christmas, not by "the local equivalents of deities". It did not survive in a cave, but in the royal treasury at Caer Paravel (castle by the sea), which was still intact after a long but unspecified amount of time.
@@bradmiller2329 The Treasury was underground on the coast. Humidity is a thing. Rust is a thing. This is, essentially, a cave. The door is even rotted to the point that the kids use it for firewood. Any non-magical weapon would rust after a decade, much less centuries. Rhindon, the sword, survived. The shield survived as well. Also, Father Christmas is a magical being of (unspecified) power. He's not the equal of the Witch, but she's only matched (and exceeded) by Aslan. He is not a deity, but he is certainly a Lady of the Lake/Merlin type of character. They frequently bestow powerful magic weapons.
This was cathartic. I would watch a series where you just dissect medieval battles in movies/tv and point out what they do right or wrong. Braveheart? Bring it on. Bastardbowl? Better than most.
The kings shield reminds me of the Dhal, and separ shields of the 16th-19th century in indopersia. A center grip, slightly domed shield of around that size.
The universe forgot about him, though. It forgot about him the moment he left view. He never even hit the ground, his body simply wiped from existence and nobody noticed. The alarm would've gone off much earlier if they had.
Shad: please do "A Knight's Tale", would like to hear your view of the armor and jousting competitions. Armor actually exists in that movie. But of course the use of modern music is laughable but everything else is mush better than most Hollywood films.
Machicolations would have made Independence Day so much better. What could interstellar aliens with the ability to wipe cities off the map possibly do against 15th century stone defenses? But then I thought, what about the dragons?
As for the particular design of King Miraz's armor, I'm guessing they made those odd (and unrealistic) design choices out of visual motives. It seems to me that they wanted to give Miraz a top heavy look to emphasize that he's an adult male. Meanwhile Peter's costume design emphasizes his more lanky body, reminding the viewer that he's just a teenage boy.
Miraz's armour is quite obviously inspired by the footman amour of later era sword and buckler men, with certain added more fantastic elements. Since the intent is for the pair to fight on foot he may have elected to focus on a lighter armour. Half-armour without leg-protection did become much more common in the later eras. More to the point the kings armour seems to be pretty much an fancy upgraded version of the common Telmarine armour set, adding plate elements to compositions of brigandine and mail. Itself very reminicent of various armour styles utilized by the spanish armies of the reconquista. Indeed the kings armour may be a reflection of the prevalence of crossbows in the Telmarine arsenal, perhaps intended more for siege warfare where the plate sections would protect from overhead projectiles. The breastplate seems to be inspired by a certain style of demi-cuirass that has historical presendent.
I don't doubt that there are other, historical inspirations. But from the wealth of historical ideas, the design director chooses what he wants. And in that choosing process, the visual story telling element is always present. It's kinda why we end up with things that look good rather than would be functional, and consequently, get these videos.
The king's armor seemed unnecessarily heavy and bulky. In a prolonged duel he would tire a lot more easily. So his stand-off tactics were a poor choice. If his shield had a good spike, it would have been over a LOT sooner.
I liked your thinking about the henchmen. The same goes for any random person who gets killed in a movie, that you aren't supposed to be thinking about, deeply.
One thing to remember with Edmund knowing how to fix an arm is at this point Ed has lived like, what, 50 years? They’re kids, but ruled for decades at the end of last movie. And idk, a punch on a massive open wound would probably hurt you pretty badly.
20:41 That actually looks a bit like a set of Dwemer armour from Skyrim, now that I think about it. The Facemask helmet, the use this brass-like metal, this errr... Kilt-thingi... You know what I mean, don´t you?
In movies, a fighter: ▪gets his arm dislocated, keeps fighting ▪gets smackes in the face with a shield, keeps fighting ▪gets his arm twisted behind his back, keeps fighting ▪gets thrown into a pillar, keeps fighting ▪takes a murderstroke to the face, keeps fighting ▪gets his feet literally knocked out from under him, keeps fighting Also in movies: ▪armor doesn't exist/ is made of butter ▪toothpicks slash throats ▪LIGHTSABAAAAA!!! ▪arrows thrown like darts ▪Henchmen: touch 'em with a feather and they keel over (#henchmenlivesmatter) ▪guy gets slapped on a leg wound, collapses in agony ▪guy stabs another through the chest a.k.a. several layers of cloth and likely mail from a bad angle Did I forget anything? Wait, I did! ...BUT WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS? We cannot forget the dragons, people!
Kill a dragon with a toothpick of an arrow or sword... while not being harmed or even bothered by the radiant heat of the giant flamethrower blasting onto your shield.
13:25 I'd like to add that in theory Edmund is a master swordsman. He was king (and you can't tell me that the golden age happened without at least skirmishes at the borders, look at Caspians recap of his first years as king in Voyage of the dawn treader, and the Pevensies are the kind of rulers who would fight themselves) for over a decade! He honed those skills for just as long under the tutelage of the best fighters Narnia has to offer and demonstrated that he didn't loose those skills in his spar with Trumpkin when they convinced him that they were indeed the kings of old and valuable help. I can't believe that he got disarmed that easily in a fight with a simple guard with much less training.
I’m probably wrong, but I think the fact that Edmund is stuck in the body of a 10 year old (I know he doesn’t look like it, but in the book he’s like 10 or 11 years old). I think that factors In with his weakened grip. Again, I might be wrong, I haven’t read the books in a long time, and the actor is definitely not 10, but I think that might be a factor
@@myre36 Definitely, but Trupkin isn't exactly weak and Edmund was equal to him AND has the advantage of knowing technics that were lost in time. And Narnian air is supposed to make you stronger. But I have to say, it's been a while since I read the books too so....
@@anarnarqelion4403 Yeah, Edmund definitely has the experience advantage and the Narnian air making him stronger (which I completely forgot about) definitely gives him a higher chance than a normal ten year old. But I still think that an adult guard that has at least some experience in sword fighting would still have a strength advantage since adults are stronger than ten year olds. Not to mention that Edmund’s hands are smaller than an adult’s which gives him worse grip, so it would be easier to knock a sword out of his hand. So I think it’s not impossible for him to get disarmed like that, not be he has little experience, but because he’s limited by his own body. And if Narnian air makes you stronger, shouldn’t that also benefit the soldier? Then again, if Susan can throw an arrow hard enough to go through leather and skin so that the soldier dies instantly, who knows what these kids are capable of
you also skipped over the extended bow draw. no human could hold a bow in firing position for the length of that scene unless it was too weak to do anything anyway.
I've never understood these sorts of banter/insults you get in modern films, always in the final fight: Evil King: "What's the matter boy, too cowardly to take a life?!" Peter: "You do know I killed like 20 of your henchmen earlier, right? I mean, they were basically made of tissue paper, but still, dead's dead, even if it's an easy kill. And, I mean, I've cut your leg open, stabbed you in the chest, probably gave you a concussion; and this is a pre-industrial society without antibiotics, so your chances of living out the night are slim at best." Evil King: "Hmm, good point. Sort of makes you wonder why the writers won't let you just kill me now, for mercy's sake. Arguably not killing me now is worse than just running me through."
and also Peter has lived to his 30s or 40s in Narnia, so they're arguably not that appart in age. Maybe the king was just trying to make Peter angry so he would be killed immediately instad of having to die from his infections
4:06 If an Eagle can Grab a dear and Slightly lift it off the ground wouldn't it be sorta possible for a Griffin to Carry a human (although I will admit they make they human seem kinda weightless)
