Critical Moments in History - Odaenathus, Savior of the East 

a video on the war of the diadochi would be great

Invicta can you start doing these about the celts germans, nords and slavs history we focus on Rome all the time

The only issue I have with this is that it does tend to play up the loyalty to the emperor angle. I think there's good reason to think his loyalty wasn't sincere and more just real politik.

great vid bro

Something on the Celts would be cool!

Kings and Generals this...this is the content

Looking forward to it! Send me a link and I can attach it to the end cards. Also I got your email about collaborating, just havent replied yet.

Thank you! :-) We will also add this video to the end cards. It will be less helpful, but still. :-) Hope to hear back from you on the collaboration. :-)

:)

Extra History beat you both.

Erik I think it's a staple of the West in general. Whom continue to take on some aspects of Rome.

what cincinnatus did?

Madson Barbosa Filho But Odaenathus is from the East. Not to mention his wife ultimately betrayed the Empire and fractured it.

El Bandito Fuck the wife

His "loyalty" is a point of debate. What loyalty means to different people is what causes an issue. He was not loyal out of some personal virtue, he ruled the area as he saw fit with little influence from Rome. Had the Western part been more demanding, it's likely he would not have stayed loyal if it infringed on his view of how things should be won. This isn't like George Washington turning down the office of Monarch. This was a loyalty of convenience. Now that's not an attack on his character, it's just that the loyalty you're associating with him, in the same vein as Cincinnatus, isn't really the same. He deserves reward and praise for the show, sure, but I would call his loyalty more of a practice of knowing when enough is enough and pushing the bounds as far as possible without the terrible drawbacks. Fighting for independence against two great powers, as his wife would learn, was not exactly a smart move when you can have all that power anyways in everything but name.

Thomas Sugg but less women like his wife

zakback99 Well what his wife did was pretty incredible.

Thomas Sugg such as

zakback99 creating her own empire witch did not last that long.

"loyalty to the emperor" should be taken with a huge pinch of salt. Outside of recognizing centrally appointed provincial governors, there's no real indication that loyalty was his main concern. I suspect that his main concern was to avoid losing his new territory (where he largely ruled unopposed) to more conflicts from a pointless march on Rome. There was nothing in the west except for formal recognition and all the troubles that came with it. He played it smart and consolidated his gains, bent the knee while actually having more power than his emperor, and focused on the only threat to him-- the persians. In fact, he slowly started to style himself as a rival claimant to the legacy of the eastern rulers.

Except for if she believed that Odaenathus had been assasinated on the orders of the Romans; whom may have came to see Odaenathus as a threat for the power and influence over the eastern provinces that he wielded, despite his apparent loyalty. Its not outside the realms of possibility. Afterall, Rome was heavilly dependant on Egyptian grain, and the power of the Palmyrenes meant that they were poised to cut that supply line at their will and could hold the empire hostage, much like Marcus Antonius (Mark Antony) did.

Lujoja if that were the case i think it backfired because they lost the east anyways.

Romans never deserved such a man, if he had risen up and rallied to the side of the Persians, a Palmyran empire may reign supreme in the east, stretching from the far lands of Egypt and the rich coast of Phoenicia.

@Zahir Datoo They werent muslim at the time but I get ur point

@Zahir Datoo that is a completely illogical statement. Your xenophobia is blocking how you think. Last time I checked bestiality is forbidden under Islamic law. But you would have known that already if you had some degree of education.

adrien belmo always pax romanus

Is a shame that they did not do a better job getting alone with each other and the rest of their world. I could have preferred Roman Exploration and colonization of the New World across the North Atlantic (From Britannia to Ireland, From Greenland to North Canada) to the later European one.

They were an Empire. Empires don't rise by being friendly.

Wolfen443 why?

adrien belmo me to !

Absolutely.The best general of the ancient world IMO.I would put Marius and Stilicho in his league,

@@richardscanlan3419 To be best he would need to be more close to perfection than he actually was-and I say it as his huge fan.

I think Scipio deserves a mention too right? he is a legend

@@paprskomet Narses didn't help the situation in Italia.

@@Rex73777 Didnt?He ended Gothic war,which was primary reason for why he was sent there.

glad you enjoyed

juzao1000 I found it pretty hilarious, half the time people who got Hailed Emperor didn’t even want the job, but they had to do it because otherwise they would get killed, and then most of them got killed anyway by some stupid random conspiracy sometimes even if they were competent guys.

Diocletian came... kinda...

Archangel 117 that was too late

ares106 I love that time when the pretorian guard literally sold the emperors throne to the highest bidder

juzao1000 that's why I said "kinda". Also the fact that the tetrarchy sorta just ended up being a stupid idea. You'd think Crisis would be a pretty good indication of all the reasons why you shouldn't decentralize power. But Diocletian was just like "nah fuck that"

huge shout out to Robbie McSweeney for the amazing scenes!

Thanks! :)

Aurelian isn't underrated, everyone knows he's great.

@@austinford1530 My boy Gallienus though...

FUCKING BITCH OF A WIFE!!!!

At that time it could have been anyone, really.

bitches aint shit but hoes

colonel mcfuckyourself Amen Brother

That's why the Arabs are right for not giving women rights.

He had an Arab-Aramean mixed amcestry. Palmyrenes were mostly Arab, Aramean, or a mixture of both, with a neo-Aramaic language and an Hellenized Semitic pantheon.

@@huguesdiceva what part of his ancestry was “aramean”? Are being a revisionist?

He was syrian. I know you´re syrian but please stop erasing our culture and history. We spoke aramaic back then and most identified as being syrian and not arab. Arabs from the khalij/golf had nothing to do with this history, it only belongs to us syrians

@@johnmalik2631 >he was syrian that doesn't contradict him being arab. It's like saying someone is chinese not mongoloid. There were a lot of arabs in syria prior to islam and this means you are probably of arab/aramean descent.

​@@Chess_Enthusiast He actually was arab

Hiukas Gonna reinstall mine tomorrow :)

Hiukas Have you tried Rome 1? Or at least Atilla would have the right part of history.

LackQueXXperia the right period of history would be the new saga based on Aurelian himself :)

this is more of attila time period

Pavle Mash Attila total war download completed XD!

Actually it was the Romans who assassinated him. That's what sparked her rebellion.

@@noneofyourbusiness5803 Her fate is unknown as well. It's been suggested that she committed suicide rather than be led in triumph, following in the footsteps of Mithridates and Cleopatra.

Ian Lewis she believed the roman betrayed her husband

None Ofyourbusiness it is kown the hand who killed him he is proper promised the throne of palmyra from rome why else would he kill him if he killed him on his own rome wouldnt let him be king so they probably recruited him then betrayed him

@@awsomeadam2 Theres no evidence to suggest the romans killed her husband and theres proof she killed him herself.

Muramasa S ah don't be so sad about it, innocent infants were sacrificed at those temples! I say YES destroy those damn temples!!!

@@magnuschristianssen8999 Never heard of Romans sacrificing infants.

@@siddarth3955 Inmocent women my ass. They really were necessary casualties. I don't mind burning a Feminist now

@@siddarth3955 was Christ a conqourer or Muhammad?

@Abu Troll al cockroachistan That´s the difference between normal humans and psychopaths.

She also dealt with more troubling times than him regarding Rome.

She is more of a man than her husband was. What was Rome to Palmyra?

@@peiranzhang4283 Everything.

@@reyne2878 Rome enslaved the men of the east, it was a matter of time before the east was lost.

Phrophetsam she believed the roman betrayed her husband

we've got a script in the works on Hannibal's decision not to march on Rome

thanks for the support. The Jerusalem video is slowly getting some help from another person who is getting some cinematic shots for the scenes

What do you mean?

He was an aramean not arab

@@johnmalik2631 be respectful he was Arab and his name was

animations are all done in Adobe AfterEffects

He is Arab

ganesh raja that rat bastard.

his name is aramaic/palmyrene, the native language spoke in syria at the time

@@johnmalik2631 In your dream "John"

thanks for the feedback, I guess I hadn't considered the break it created before

Invicta ur welcome :) first comment i wrote even tho i have been following you since 2 years or smth like that ;) miss ghose battle tactics like the analysis of the triple axis of rome

For a microsecond, i had the same thought while watching. Good feedback lol. Thanks for the great vid too man

he was not roman (he had the citizenship "ad honorem")..he was more of an allied kang....

Maybe expanded to North America Via Britannia, or explore the African Coast lines even. But beyond North Africa and the New World I do not see Rome expanding farther than that.

Wolfen443 why not, alexander the great reached india, why wouldnt the romans be able to do it also?

a True *Romantisized Arab.

rabixado Alexander made ideas never seen before in his time, like in the battle of gaugamela, where he tricked the Persians into chasing him and revealing a gap in the enemy army, which he charged in a split second without hesitation. There might be generals who aspired to be like Alexander (Caesar, pompey, trajan, and hadrian) but few were actually as successful as he was. There are records that talk about the young Caesar staring at a statue of Alexander the great and saying "when Alexander was 30, he conquered the world, I'm 30 and have done nothing!"

I want to do an episode on the Viking Blood Eagle

the eagle is of...dubious authenticity

Go read Vinland saga its pretty good. although i dont know how historically accurate it is it does take place during that time

Why britannia after all?? When there is so much more interesting settings? Just another go at history revisionism like they did in Rome 2 and especially Attila where they pretended that our german women were a bunch of feminazi warriors and that we had armies of female warriors and them battling Equal to our men between us. History revisionist typical 2017 neoliberal bullshit to push sociopolitical agendas and lies instead of teaching real history. Probably we will see armies of Welsh women fighting a black Anglogermanic lesbian Queen and her armies of multiethnic muslim Germanics and Scandinavians or crap they keep coming up with to please their Marxist overlords that are infesting all forms of Media. For me as a half german half brit and history lover I am not excited

Artwork is by Robbie McSweeney and its absolutely amazing!

Indeed, also I hate to nitpick but I saw a little error with the map, It seems the province Dacia (north of the Danube) is not occupied by the Romans. It was actually abandoned a few decades after this under Emperor Aurelian. Though it's not that relevant for this particular eastern empire story, if you are going to do a documentary on Aurelian next you should probably make sure Dacia is included.

thanks for pointing that out, should have indeed included it at that point in time

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