Critical Thinking: Rhetorical Devices 1 

Love the class, for my regiment this summer, I will be re-watching every episode, every morning. Better to prepare yourself than, to be not prepared.

15 mins into it and this is already so interesting ! Everyone should know this stuff to avoid getting manipulated by media

Thank you very much for uploading. I did really enjoy the class and learned a lot from it.

Ohh dang! Love Dr., Sadler's work - his online lectures have gotten me through 3 years of philosophy! I'm very stoked to find him talking about rhetoric - what is this, a crossover episode?

Thx. Prof. Sadler! wish you a happy & healthy life!!!!!

I stumbled upon this class and I am extremely glad I did so

I'm not sure how I implied that I see it as a better diet in any real sense of the term -- other than providing a bit more protein and calcium. It was certainly seen as a "better" one by those who shifted to it, until they started seeing side effects. And, it seems to have resulted in bigger kids. But, yes, meat/dairy is not necessarily better (or worse) than a traditional Japanese (or any other veg/fish strong) diet -- really depends on quality of the food, I think

A sincere compliment is medicine . And it makes that person see something good about themselves when they may not see the beauty of themselves at a critical moment.

Great lecture! You can see how rhetoric is used everyday not just by friends and family, but also by government and religion.

I write plays and screenplays and love rhetoric and rhetorical devices. This lecture was a pleasure, a privilege and a joy. Dr Sadler, thank you.

Using RU-vid to study for the Cset. This video is so helpful. I am ready! :)

I watched all the Critical Thinking videos by Dr. Sadler I could find on RU-vid. I even bought and perused the book he used to teach with in this video. It helped me to get a lot better at thinking more critically, that is, think smarter. Thanks Dr. Sadler!

Great lecture I love it Thanks for the upload :)

watching this in passing while i contemplate how to write a rhetorical essay. very nice lecture

I only wanted a quick thumbnail example of RHETORICAL and I ended up watching the entire video! ;-) Good stuff.

Thank you for sharing this with us.

Well, rhetoric and philosophy can work very well together -- they do for Aristotle and for Cicero, who make some major contributions to both fields, and saw the two disciplines as able to contribute to each other.

Thanks very much! And, since you brought it up, I'm actually planning on developing an online course (with many improvements and additions) in Critical Thinking this coming Fall. If by the Trivium, you mean a foundation in three of the traditional liberal arts -- Grammar (which included Literature), Rhetoric (which included some Psychology) and Dialectic (not just Logic, but Inquiry) -- I'm definitely in favor of that.

Thank you! Hope you get an online class going on critical thinking. That would be awesome.

Thank you for your amazing explanations

you should record more classes and upload it, it would help random people as well your students who missed class or want hear them again

We were using Moore and Parker's "Critical Thinking"

Good thing they recorded the lectures... I learned all of these from Walter Armstrong @ Duke... but this guy teaches very easy... excellent teacher! Armstrong was easy too... Here I’m just more relaxed...

What clear explanations he makes.

Thank you for the video.

The coffee cup looks to be in my hands. Are you asking where it is from? Oshkosh, WI, where my sister was a student

Dr Sadler really knows his stuff; better still, he explains it clearly and in an engaging way. Lucky students. Thanks for posting.

anyone have a summary, or key points of what was gone over?

dr saddler, i didn't catch the last example you said, the video ended : (

Dr Sadler is awesome.

I think we have a difference in terms. I see rhetoric as making argument based on occasion/situation, audience, and a mix of commonplace knowledge and special knowledge. Also, in my view, language varies in value in degree and type across readings, viewings, or hearings an argument. So to say that language is neutral is approaching language from a very different intellectual position. I'm not sure what isn't based in language of some kind - whether it is a visual or auditory/textual language.

I have BPD and after a few of Dr. Sadler's sessions, I'm suddenly noticing a lot of flaws in my delivery or verbiage when I'm having a petulant BPD-type episode. I've been in therapy for a year now and have beginner's knowledge of CBT Cognitive Behavior therapy. However, with this tool, I have a bit more to fall back on when my thinking gets stinking or engulfed in my own selfish narratives that make me seem like a bigot and or a real big effing jerk. I trust with continued practice I will stop "Putting things in the worst terms possible." 😍😘I'm curious if this will be like skating now; once you learn it you don't forget. It's only been a couple days now since learning of this channel. I'm hoping this will help me get to a place where I don't have as many or any episodes. 😇

What book are you using for this class? I can't seem to figure it out!

Depends on which teacher you chose, I suspect

I know you said the book you were using was "Moore and Parker's Critical Thinking", but what edition was it? I would really really like to read it and follow along.

It starts slow but turned out pretty informative. Thanks for the lecture!

This video helped me a lot.

You're very welcome -- if you like this stuff, check out my personal channel, where I've got 25+ videos on various topics, texts, and thinkers in Philosophy

tomorrow is the first day of this course at my college, i hope I din't go wrong in choosing this class

I'm studying rhetoric and stumbled upon your video. It's wonderful as usual. By the way, in the 1950's in the US, there was horse meat in the frozen food section, next to the frozen peas. Where's your coffee cup?

What about the inartistic (factual) proof or logos as a rhetorical appeal?

@Areopagitican: simple answer to that one. In classical Greek, "u" is pronounced "oo," so when I'm pronouncing Greek-derived words, I tend to pronounce the "U"s that way

12 years ago when you could say common sense things like this without being crucified lol love it!

What is the book being used in class?

can I ask what the textbook is?

Well, the logos part of rhetoric is what it also -- from an Aristotelian perspective -- has in common with dialectic, and with logic (broadly conceived). It's not coming solely from rhetoric

Thanks!

Well, some of them at least. If you like the videos from this course, I've got Ethics and Intro to Philosophy course videos over on my own RU-vid channel -- now being taught at Marist College, after I left FSU

Well, I think that will have to be something that I produce myself. The place I'm currently teaching doesn't have a CT class.

Well that story about Socrates persuading someone; I saw it on Empires on PBS. I would consider rhetoric a tool in that it a tool can be misused, used differently, or used in the proper manner. Basically, rhetoric could be compatible but not always and in every situation. What do you think of this?

Do the prefixes ("eu" and "dys") also apply to the terms utopia and dystopia? I thought they might be, but I am not sure since it is not spelled "eutopia". I like the videos so far, by the way.

I can get by with French or German, but my languages I mainly use for reading -- so those would include Latin and Classical Greek

There are more places where horse is eaten normally. In Slovenia you can find it in fast foods open 24/7 :) And that's just what I know of!

A valuable skill. . . .

Thanks for posting that, I enjoyed. One thing though: you seem to imply that the Japanese moving towards a westernized diet is moving towards a "better" diet. More meat and more dairy will indeed increase mass and might cause acne but I certainly doubt it could be qualified as being better nutrition.

Inquiry involves attention to precisely how it is we go about learning, knowing, assessing, etc -- so that takes us way beyond formal, and even most informal logic, which is a tool for inquiry, but not the only one. The history of logic, in fact, is full of attempts to understand the broader category of inquiry A now-classic example of this would be C.S. Pierce's conception of "abduction," which he suggested adding to induction and deduction -- to have a better conception of how we reason

can someone share the book name?

Yea I did mean that Trivium; I am just not sure what the additional inquiry in logic pertains to. By inquiry do you mean extending beyond formal logic and applying logic to material propositions? I was just curious because I recently read a book called "The Trivium" by Sister Miriam Joseph and found her presentation of the Trivium very illuminating. I would be interested in taking an online critical thinking course as well!

Well, this is neat. Thanks!

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Well, my tone was always good in Mandarin -- unfortunately, I've never put in the kind of time to actually make much progress! I'm a bit lazy

Who needs public speaking courses to fulfill GE courses when you can watch these fine lectures? Thanks for posting these videos Professor! Do you recommend studying the Trivium method to education?

Isn't innuendo just a form of passive-aggression? Or is that the whole point? I've never been one to be passive aggressive.

It was the 9th edition

Yes -- Aristotle actually says, in his own work on Rhetoric, that we ought to learn how to use it effectively, since we'll run into it nearly everywhere -- and it's shameful not to be able to defend ourselves!

As the prof pointed out, rhetoric often appeals to emotion instead of reason. This puts rhetoric at odds with philosophy because philosophy is based in reason instead of emotion.

We were using Moore and Parker's Critical Thinking. Not a particularly good book, and apparently the 9th and 10th editions are in certain respects inferior to previous editions. So far, I have to say, I've never found a Critical Thinking textbook I could really say I was happy with. . . might have to write my own

This man is Leonardo Dicaprio in "don't look up". Took me 33 seconds to realize it.

He has his own channel and is very interesting.

I'm not sure Socrates persuaded anyone that he was physically handsome. It really depends -- for whether philosophy and rhetoric are compatible or even complementary -- what models one has for the two fields

Thx for this. Got any new stuff?

Critical thinking involves making arguments for each case - arguments are based in language - rhetoric is a way of using language to tip the favour in one way without adding (or taking away) value to an argument and so it should be studied.

Hey Professor what's the book used for this class? Thank you

my AP teacher calls it ree-tohr-ick is that incorrect?

I could see how rhetoric can be used to persuade a point to someone. I remember hearing of a story where Socrates "persuades" someone to think he is a handsome guy so philosophers have used rhetoric but I guess persuading a point is not always the logical way to explain something. Interesting fact: St. Augustine, an influential philosopher, taught rhetoric.

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Books to get: The art of rhetoric by Aristotle, the trivium, De oratore by Cicero, how to win an argument. Public Speaking for success by dale Carnegie, the exceptional presenter, the secret language of influence.

I heard that facial recognition is partly genetic and partly developed when you are a baby. This is why it's easier to recognise the faces of people within your own racial group and why other races can look very similar to each-other.

Well, like you point out, you get this for free. In order to understand why I'm going so slow with these students, in a required Core course, you might look up FSU and see what level the students it takes in are. Since you're clearly a go-getter, I'll leave that research to you. . .

Chalkboard and cardigan, it’s like teaching at the end of the twentieth century.

I laughed when someone asked if its on the menu in France.

Horse meat is pretty delicious, actually! Great videos.

makes sense

The change to climate change is not a euphemism, it is a clarification of terms based on additional evidence.

The Big Lebowski, with glasses, and sober at 8:00 in the morning

Actually feel like i can write an essay now. My teacher is so useless, doesnt even use a book, just wings it each class and gets sidetracked

I appreciate this video, so I feel bad but I can only see him as a tube of Dijon mustard.

I see. . . so, by that reasoning, I (and all my peers) can't do critical thinking, eh, since I teach it?

Specifically, from Glen Beck.

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A bit. Just a bit

Thank you this stuff is so confusing.

Dysphemisms !!?! Crazy man 👍🏾

Maybe. I prefer to think that rhetoric makes critical thinking possible, or at the very least critical thinking is a function of rhetoric.

Euphemism: County Correctional Facility - Jail

Ah I see. Persuasive language goes against philosophy in that you don't give an explanation of the subject, you're just arguing for your case with the positive language for the subject even though you're making a positive case for a negative subject.

I like how he teaches.

The Pace of conveying useful information is too slow. I have to keep skipping and fast forwarding to get to the point! It's a good thing I don't have to pay for tuition for this class.

rhetoric certainly can derail critical thinking---that's the point.