Critiquing the story and lore of Destiny 2: Beyond Light for about 27 minutes 

If we don't get a lore card about Dirfter, Elsie and Eris' camping trip shinanigans I'm going to be so mad

When I first defeated Eramis, and she freezes, the camera turns to face the pyramid. Granted I might be thinking too hard, but I think that meant the pyramid froze Eramis, almost as if to say, “not worthy.” Sort of revealing that whole “the darkness probably doesn’t have your best interest at heart.”

The biggest thing for me was that you FINALLY meet the stranger again after forever, and she's just like "go use the darkness". And as the guardian we're just like "k". No questions about where she's been, why we should use it, why we need to use it, the dangers etcetera. It was literally just "k"

"NOOO GUARDIAN YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WEILDING THE DARKNESS!!!" "haha ice wall go pshhhhh."

There’s no greater form of disrespect than using the Outbreak Perfected to kill Eramis and her lieutenants.

Mithrax was a great missed opportunity. We already knew that Eramis is basically his arch-enemy, yet we didn't get to see the Kell of Light facing against the Kell of Darkness. Yeah sure, Mithrax doesn't actually have any powers that could rival stasis, but the fact that there was no single interaction between the two of them really annoys me. I'm glad he was at least mentioned by Variks, but that's not enough.

I have a feeling Cayde knew more than he was letting on. His terminal even suggests he knows Banshee-44's real name.

Everybody: Agreeing with and disputing Byf's lore opinions Me: You can shoot the fallen ship's turrets off ??!

The biggest disappointment for me was not seeing more of Elsie’s little floating fish thing.

I believe that Eramis' story isn't over... and even if it was, I believe the reason why she didn't 'hit as hard' is because WE GOT HER before she could actually focus her abilities. We deal with roughly around ten stasis wielders during the main story. We nipped the bud before it bloomed, so to speak.

Variks yelling at Eramis was a great moment.

"Do you wanna know about the exo strangers dark timeline" hell yeah especially since according to her I even fell to corruption "Do you wanna here about saint sagira and osiris"..... Sure i love crying

If you die during a communion it says "your salvation is ready" in grey text you can barely see

"the exo stranger explains some things" Oh, now she has time to explain things...

Did anyone else hear variks sing savathuns tune, he does in when you’re standing next to him?

My biggest gripe is not with the campaign, but with the now playable story thread of this season. 🚨 Spoiler alert: Now in week two of the Season of the Hunt, we are summoned to the moon by Osiris who casually drops a massive bombshell; Sagira has been killed. Osiris is now ghostless which by itself should be crushing to his courage in the face of death but most baffling is that the characters (even Osiris) barely react to the revelation that she is dead. His companion through the dark age, whom was with him for centuries, before the city even existed. We find out she is dead and then nobody mentions it again. Osiris doesn’t even seem all that bothered by it. Destiny has a terrible habit of not treating ghosts like characters, even though we have seen, time and again that they are sentient beings. Zavala, Ikora and Cayde are some of the most well known characters and they all have ghosts in the lore but we never hear them speak in game. Cayde’s ghost was named Sundance but her character was never fleshed out and her death was really just a stepping stone for the writers to get to Cayde’s death. Another good example is Eris morning the deaths of her fireteam members but not of her ghost. We now have Crow’s ghost calling himself “Glint” but if the trend continues, I doubt he will be very important.

Say “first” and your next pvp match will be against all stasis warlocks They do be fixed tho

[insect-like chattering]

Can't help feeling that a guardian coming back to the last city wielding Darkness and inviting others to do the same should've set off a civil war or something. That would've been intense.

hey so can anyone explain what happened to the stranger’s little “fish” in Beyond Light?

I haven’t watched the whole thing yet but I can tell you already touched on the main thing which is how the characters talk about how corrupting and scary the Darkness is and how your character is struggling with it AND SHOW ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THIS. I felt like I was taking crazy pills.

I think there’s still more subtle “corruption” going on that Bungie is trying to lace into the story here and there. The biggest red flag for me is Exo Stranger saying “we are humanity’s salvation.” Ghost also starting brushing off how stasis could be impacting us. My hope is that we are being shown stasis through rose colored glasses on purpose. My head cannon is that the Darkness wants to beat the Light showing that it was wrong. To turn as much of its gifts against it. After all, the Darkness doesn’t give; it takes. It could also feed into a story of Savathun calling us “puppets.” The idea that, for all our power, we are just being crashed around by the powers she understands better than us. Fingers crossed.

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I have a theory about the Darkness and its supposed "dark stakes"--I'm guessing that, once enough guardians have 'turned' or accepted the dark powers of the Darkness, it will change from being a patronizing figure to a commanding, vindictive conqueror. By the time this change is enacted, it will have in its employ plenty of dark guardians to use when destroying the traveler and snuffing out the Light. . Just a thought!

Spoilers for lore books: The "Regarding Stasis" lore book is a series of letters written by Eris Morn. One letter, "To The Witch Queen," features Eris ranting, almost bloodthirstily about that, with Stasis, she thinks she can beat Savathûn, and that she is "her ruin." "The Dark Future" is a lore book following Elsie's alternate timeline. I've only skimmed through it, but what I read is that the Tower is gone, and Zavala has a beard and is in rags. Ana and Elsie try to get him to help them with tracking down the Witch Queen. Zavala responds that "Savathûn is merely a pawn. You want the real Witch. You want Eris Morn." In this alternate timeline, Eris was corrupted by the Unknown Artifact, and went mad. Perhaps this is the Arthas you were looking for.

I personally want to know what that fish creature was next to the stranger?

I'd love for you to cover the Osiris messages that he's been sending to Zavala's office along with the stories Bungie has published to their website. I feel a lot of people have missed these and as such are lacking context to the season of the hunt.

Bungie needs to hire you as a consultant. All of your ideas for the story sounded really good.

Imo, there are a few missed opportunities in this expansion. Namely the Fallen in opposition to Eramis. Variks is called a Eliskni Rebel, and at one point we help some Eliskni escape Europa, but I wish we saw more of that. There could've been a mission where, when we set up that comms network, instead of the Darkness getting involved, we hear a voice on the comms speaking rapid Eliskni. Variks tells us it's a distress call from a group of Eliskni who defected from Eramis. And suddenly it turns into a rescue mission where we have to save 3 groups of Eliskni rebels. But what if when we find the 3rd group, we instead find that they've all been frozen, before Eramis steps out of the shadows and shattering them all with Stasis, revealing it was a trap. That would've been a better story mission instead of the awkward transition from helping Variks to following the Darkness and getting Stasis.

The one thing I like about Variks in Beyond Light is that we finally called him out about Cayde's death, and that he's still in hot water about it.

What would really interest me is: Is there any lore at all about what happened to calus and the leviathan?

Honestly on the point of "The Darkness not Feeling Corruptive", the thing is, would that be fun mechanically? Would you in a raid want to have the risk of your Stasis Subclass causing adverse effects to your play experience? I wouldn't. And I do think they are building up to the risks of the Darkness as a slow-burn thing, as we get more and more used to it, it will likely become easier for the Darkness (The Entity/Deity) to manipulate and turn people to their side. Heck, that could be the plot of Lightfall, the Darkness could've already won, and we were the sleeper agents.

I think the problem is there has *never* been a long lasting villain. we've always killed them in a strike, or a story mission, or a raid, there's never been a villain we couldn't beat. and that's a problem. there wasn't really a in-your-face, consistently appearing strong foe, I had hoped that Oyrx would have been that for us, having a mission where he suddenly shows up and you have to flee or narrowly escape with your life would have been what Destiny needed, and what its sequel lacks. there's no long-lasting prominent "this is the bad guy and there's no way in *hell* you can beat them regardless of your strength" type. What Bungie tends to do, is hype up a character, introduce it for a DLC, kill it off, rinse-repeat. and while it's fun short term, long term, it's not so great

I would love to hear about the dark future, it's so interesting to me. Eramis lore is good too.

I'm just so hyped for whenever you finally make a Clovis Bray video

I will say that the videos on Byf’s channel are some of the only videos I watch until the last second. I love the theme music!!!!

Byf, the mask of bakrys talks about a "fallen exo" mind going into more detail about that?

I still have hope for Eramis though, the raid is coming, and she told Atraks to "prepare the body" in the Crypt Fallen Exo Eramis raid boss coming? If it does come, hopefully they can redeem her as a villain, give her more time to shine

I agree for the most part, especially in regards to the Darkness feeling absent. All throughout the campaign, Ghost and all of the characters kept hounding me about how dangerous all of this was, but never once did we see any actual corruption. Even with Eramis herself, the closest we got was her hand sort of freezing over. However, nowhere in her story did I get the feeling she was actually being corrupt. But Ghost INSISTS that he's sorry for freaking out over this, but it comes across as overreacting. And then was very disappointed to see we got baited with the trailers, making it seem like Drifter and Eris had anything major to do with this. Don't get me wrong, I really liked the segments where we got to go back to camp and talk with them: THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD DO GOING FORWARD! However, they played little to no role in the story at all. So what was the point? Furthermore, one thing I couldn't help but be disappointed about was the breakneck pacing. And like any broken neck, the structure was so disjointed to boot. I am by no means overly nostalgic towards Destiny 1, and think people are insane for calling Taken King a masterpiece or "amazing"; it was just good, nothing more or less. However, I couldn't help but think back to just how well Taken King paced itself. Compare how the stories unfold in both campaigns... Taken King: Dreadnought shows up, and Mara's army gets obliterated (sets up the plot, sets up the stakes, and provides mystery as to what this threat is). We receive mysterious reports on Phobos and go to check it out. Upon arrival, we are greeted with a Cabal base in panic and ruin (this should unnerve us, the Cabal fear no one). We see Oryx firsthand and in person, and what he's capable of (reinforces stakes). After running in an exciting escape scene, we get some info on him. The rest from here are a series of missions JUST trying to set up an excursion that will succeed in infiltrating the Dreadnought. We approach the Dreadnought and the story treats it like a big deal, as it should. We finally make it on and finally set up a beacon to establish a beachhead in the Dreadnought (we overcome obstacles that, in universe, is a struggle, and not something just glossed over). We now have a mysterious ship to explore and have to gather information to try and find Oryx so we can take him down. When trying to control him, we are met with an obstacle that stops us from reaching him, which is Hive ascendancy (resets the stakes to show Oryx is no pushover , also provides another question of how we will overcome) Get sent to go collect essence of Crota (provides a unique stealth mission, establishes interesting lore on Hive burial rites,etc.) We can finally travel to Oryx and kill him before escaping to his Throne World. The story in Taken King feels complete and the characters inside it feel real. While I still think Cayde was not as developed as some hardcore fans claim (I still have no idea why people think Cayde dying was tear worthy, other than the fact the funny man died), i do believe he felt like an actual character in that expansion; a two dimensional, funny one, but a character nonetheless. It's certainly better than the one dimension Zavala and Ikora have to share between themselves when on screen. Beyond Light's campaign starts off well enough, but devolves into Forsaken-lite with us just killing off hardly interesting or developed lieutenants in order to get to the big bad. The story feels half as long as Taken King's, lacks the physical presence that Oryx would bring, and the stakes are just unclear or just not presented to us in a meaningful way. It would've been nice to see the extent of Eramis' powers beyond turning one person to ice, or seeing the extent of her army and potential danger. Instead we're just left with inferences. This is where my disagreements start though. The Stranger. While I appreciate the reveal of her being a Bray is pretty cool and we do get some solid development with her, I think you need to reevaluate the meaning of "nuance". The Anna and Elsie scene was so awkward. While I like that the Stranger was very distressed, there was nothing nuanced about it all, in fact, it was pretty on the nose what had happened. The worst part about it is I wish I could feel something for that scene but that requires two things that are missing: understanding/presence of the corruption of Darkness, which we already established was lack luster at best; and or ACTUAL development of Anna as a character. As it stands, what we've seen in game of her, is she's just... kinda peppy, I guess? She has about as much personality in-game as any Destiny NPC, which is to say not much. Oh, they certainly try and ham it up, but it's not genuine. Though this has been a bit of running hung with Bungie. Very rarely do they actually successfully develop a character, but for the most part fail in that. So when they have to focus the spotlight on one of these undeveloped characters, they then have to act like we have some kind of genuine attachment to them and play out a dramatic or emotional scene they didn't earn. That is what I feel like when I witness the lost sector between Anna and Elsie. I feel like Elsie is on the right track, but Anna hasn't earned it yet as a character for me to care about her. Getting back to my point, a nuance would be something underlying all of this. However, the exchange and conflict is pretty two-dimensional. That being said, that's not necessarily a bad thing on its own, but this scene isn't nuanced at all, nor do I even think it earned the emotional payoff they failed to even set up.

It's hard to feel like you are wielding darkness when it's just purple frozen water.

Oh no we’re definitely seeing how corrupting darkness is. Have you not been in crucible lately lol

I was kinda bummed we didn’t get to see that little floaty thing around the exo stranger more. All we got was that cut scene then it disappeared

Byf, all of those suggestions are awesome. How about the Elsie background that you mention! Thanks again for signing my Ghost at E3 a few years ago. I treasure that moment I got to meet you in person.

my guardian not responding to any ones dialog: im just here for the shaved ice powers dude.......

Why would the Darkness need to do much talking and manipulation? It's already getting exactly what it wants with us. I'd say Eramis was only reached out to as a candidate for Stasis because the Darkness knew we'd arrive to take out a prime target and become empowered by Stasis. Also why the Cruxes are always at the boss fight locations already. THAT'S the mark of a good villain: they don't draw attention to or put a focus on events and actions that are moving their goals forward. The Darkness being relatively quiet is actually more unsettling to me than them actively doing stuff. It means (they think) they're winning and they don't have to do anything to change that. The game itself is reinforcing that. Having a maniacally-laughing, mustache-twirling Ghost would be such a letdown, man. Please don't suggest that again. Right now, it feels like we're in that persistent dead silence that follows when the main character of a TV show dies from a gunshot fired by another main character. Something terrible has obviously happened but none of the participants have overcome the emotional trauma enough to speak. It could also have those sinister connotations. So no, I actually think that the silence from the Darkness is perfectly sufficient for this point in the narrative. I'm looking for Lightfall to really start addressing those "is the Darkness evil" questions in full like you suggested.

I like to think we just help variks deal with his ex.

byf been a viewer since vanilla d1 and can't get enough of your videos, id love to see more lore and more information about the Eyes of Tommorrow rocket launcher from the raid considering the lore tab is quite short , for such an .... interesting gun.

“I only wish they’d gone with Matt Mercer for the voice” Ah i see you are a fellow man of culture

See, I would say Eramis is one of the better villains we've had because of the conversations with Variks. Yes she wasn't Oryx and hasn't had as much background actives like Savathun but that's fine, there doesn't need to be all these big villains moving things in the background. Eramis actually is a great example of falling as Variks begs her to not go through with opening the Glassway or comments on how she's changed. She's not the Big Bad, she's us if we tread too far and become another Dreghen. The one thing I really think should be highlighted is the world feeling more alive. Yes, there could be more dialogue between characters but we're seeing far more than before. We have the Stranger talking to Ana, the reports from Zavalas' office from both Osiris and Mara Sov. The lost sectors actually been used for more lore development. The interactions of the Spider and him talking about the Crow (if you're sad about Sagira, wait till you hear whats happening with Pulled Pork.). We're actually seeing these events in game and the seeds are finally sprouting. Yes, the corruption with the Darkness could be shown off a bit but it gets to a point of how does it get implemented. There is a point where things have to diverge if you want to please both sides. Will we potentially see a Dark Tower get formed? Will we see the likes of the Stranger and the Drifter form their own place that taps into the Vanguard comms? There's no easy way around it, especially to please people who want to walk the grey line and those who want to stay in the Light.

This expansion feels like a part 1. Maybe a part one to a 3 expansion story leading to lightfall. Or a story built and delivers through the raid or seasonal content. Very excited for what’s to come. Roll on the Deep Stone Crypt

Just an appreciation comment for you Byf. We will never grow weary of your voice and the knowledge you bless us with. Thank you for everything you do man.

Wow 800k subs now I remember being subbed to you when you didn't have many I'm so happy you made it!!

Gotta disagree on one point: I don't think "Darkness corrupts" is a particularly nuanced story beat, nor do I think it's what Bungie intends. Remember, the Darkness said it would never do something so crude as to reach out and place its mark on us, and it would never have done for us what the Traveler did. It doesn't do direct influence. It never has. The Darkness is a philosophy, an argument for that final, perfect shape. It stated its goal clear as day in Unveiling - "You are the gardener's final argument. It would mean everything if I could convince you that I am the right and only way." The Darkness isn't trying to corrupt is - it's trying to *convince* us. It's betting that given the choice between a shield or a sword, we will go for the sword, and do as sword-wielders do, so it gives us a taste in the Cruxes, and we only truly get to keep it when we kill Eramis for it. When we stake our claim to existence. When we do exactly what it wants us to do. Eramis embraced the Darkness out of obsession and temptation. She wasn't 'corrupted' in any meaningful sense of the word, and this whole idea of "Darkness/Corrupted Guardians" seems to fly in the face of everything we've learned about the Darkness up to this point.

Isn't Eramis' story still unfolding? The whole "ready the body" thing and Krisis saying she will basically come back stronger somehow

Loredaddy please give us all the lore interested in all you do such a fantastic job of condensing the vast lore into digestible and thought provoking content cos me and many others were not gonna know anything otherwise.

I like the idea of learning about the other darker timelines as well as the potential to see ourselves in that timeline. Overall, love these videos!

To be honest Byf, I'd never expect Palpatine-like maniacal laughter from the Darkness. It is not that brand of evil.

The morally grey side of light and dark plot point has not been dropped, it's still developing. In beyond light, we are wielding darkness freely with no consequence...yet. Why would the darkness show their hand right away? The drifter is having a blast watching us use it, Exo stranger is warning us about it, we just haven't seen the repercussions yet because right now we are simply enjoying this gift. Beyond light is essentially the embodiment of the phrase "this isn't so bad" before it all falls apart. To say that the dark and light, the good and bad of both, plot point has been dropped is really jumping to conclusions. Why do you think there is an expansion called light fall? The darkness is just getting started, the board is being set, and Exo stranger has given us the warnings from another timeline. Beyond light is simply that, beyond what we've been using in the game for years, I'm guessing we will start seeing the downsides to wielding darkness soon, Destiny has always been about the slow build. Then we will have to choose a side like we did with the drifter and the vanguard. That was only a test for Bungie and I think it's all going to come to a head in a massive way. Your videos are excellent Byf, just my first time disagreeing with you.

The whole of Destiny is like the scene where the ghost revives us first. He always reminds of how much we are in danger of being hunted by Eliksni, but if we just walk around outside the wall nothing is really hapeing. We wouldn't have to fight anything at all, if we stayed outside of that damn wall forever!

I’m really excited for you to get into the Deep Stone Crypt, and hope you’re planning that soon. Can’t wait!

All the Destiny bosses we fight in the main campaigns are throwaways. For christ sake, Forsaken's campaign ended fighting a giant taken meatball. The real true evil villain is only ever revealed in the raid.

A good corruptive element could’ve been our body slowly adding cosmetic ice onto your player character that maybe the more ice you have on you. Kinda like how Erimis was slowly turning to ice, maybe we suffer the same, like maybe were slowly turning to ice “cosmetically”

i want you to talk about everything u mentioned at the end. I find these videos to be so entertaining since i don't have time to play through the game go through every little detail.

I could listen to destiny lore from byf all day long. Also would love to see u become a writer for just about any game

It seems that this isnt the end of her story tho. In one of the later cutscenes she tells one of the Elites (I think it was Praksis?) to "go to the crypt and prepare the body". And given the fact that it's never stated that Eramis died in that final cutscene, we could be facing her as an exo in the raid, but who knows.

My favorite part about varikis was near the final part of the last mission, where erimas keeps calling him a cowered, so his voice gets much deeper and far more angery, where he starts shouting. It’s shows the other side of varikis, one I want to see a lot more of.

Dark timeline honestly sounds like the most interesting to me! I'd love to hear more of it!

I think the actual temptation that the Darkness has shown through this expansion is that real life players are enjoying Stasis so much that they have forgotten that the Light subclasses existed. Many of other players don't but in my Discord community, this has happened. :

The Forsaken and Shadowkeep campaigns had some strong memorable moments, like Cayde's death and our subsequent revenge, or discovering the Luna Pyramid. Nothing in Beyond Light really hits that hard. It is fair to say this game was made under extenuating circumstances tho.

I didn't find Eramis' story that compelling either. But I think that's okay, because to me, she wasn't truly the main villain of the expansion. Yes, she is the threat directly in front of us that we are trying to stop. But I feel like she fills more of the role of the Fanatic, than of Uldren Sov or Riven. The true villain of the expansion is the Darkness itself, which can be easily found by reading the lore tabs on the Europa items, the lore-books, and the rest. There is more lore in this expansion directly showing the misery Darkness brings on people we care about that at any point in Destiny prior. We get a great animation showing The Whirlwind. We learn Elsie Bray's tragic story of trying to stop the Darkness, in timeline after timeline. Eramis is using darkness, but more importantly, she is being used BY darkness. The true story of Beyond light isn't about Eramis vs the Guardians, but about the inner-struggle of Guardians against the darkness itself. The challenge of using the power of Darkness without succumbing to its will. Just because Eramis is on the cover doesn't mean she's the main villain. She's just the only one we can shoot. At face value, the Darkness is helping us, but the reality when you dig a little deeper is that the fight against the darkness is the TRUE story of Beyond light.

an interesting thought after just hearing the phrase about darkness having the tendency to corrupt, wouldn’t you say that the light has just as much of a tendency to corrupt? The warlords are a great example of the power corrupting but also leaving the fallen is what you could argue to have corrupted them to their fallen state. Gaul probably would’ve just been a fine leader if he wasn’t corrupted by his obsession for the light. Another thought is that the light could be indirectly responsible for corrupting anything it interacts with by leading the darkness to it. Just by how many enemy types we have, its easy to think that the darkness corrupts more often but that seems like it could just be due to the fact that the sword logic is by nature, simpler and more accessible than the bomb logic. If humans weren’t first tempted by the wonders of the bomb logic, it would only be a matter of time before they embraced the sword logic. Hell, just one logic isn’t enough for anyone seeking power, every faction in the forces of darkness constantly seek the power of the light and even some of the first arisen from the traveler sought after the darkness as guardians continue to do today

Imagine if destiny's story didn't exist solely in its lore cards.

To me it felt like the entire campaign and most of beyond light was just an advertisement for stasis. We got teased with the darkness and eramis and it feels like they were both just used to say "hey look at the cool new ice powers" even the exo stranger feels like a bit of a device to show off the new abilities. Maybe that will change as they release more but so far that is what it has felt like to me.

I might be so wrong but one of the things that i kinda liked was the feeling that darkness didn't affect us negatively cuz it makes that doubt that really is darkness bad? It's helping us tho. I would've liked the corruption aswell but i like this way as well that the darkness isn't appearing dark.

I know it takes time, but I absolutely love the long lore videos explaining everything that I would have never seen before. You’ve truly opened my eyes to destiny and keep me tied to the game. I would love to see a video explaining all of the expansions in chronological order, really giving the viewer an overall glimpse into how destiny 2 has formed the in game society and how beyond light influences the lore.

The fact that Variks has an exclusive voiceline for Flame Hunters asking 'Do you do knife tricks at parties?' carried the whole expansion for me

That Dark Timeline needs to be covered ASAP. I couldn’t wait until I collected all the entries so I read it on Ishtar and it is absolutely incredible. Definitely my #1 thing I wanna see covered very soon and my heart leapt when you mentioned it.

The sad thing is, that the scenario you painted up about us going to the alternate future was probably the original idea. It was just too much the sad sized bungie could have taken on.

You know they say hindsight 20/20 and then a few years from now looking back I really feel like you're going to have a profound impact on this game and how they tell the story this kind of content is only going to make bungie's content better and that's fucking beautiful well done byf

You touched on every point I brought up discussing this with others on reddit. I'm in total agreement on all fronts!

the way our ghost kept nagging at us for using stasis i believe a cutscene of us aggressively responding to his criticism would have effectively showed us the problem with darkness powers obviously ending with us apologising in an almost scared and conflicted way

Yes! I’ve been waiting for your take Byfee boiii!

Please cover icefall mantle it’s so interesting and I’ve been trying to figure out it’s meaning that fact that Clovis managed to fit stasis into arms and have it form the hardest form of ice that’s currently known it’s amazing

I definitely would love to see a video discussing Saint, Sagira and Osiris. They're some of the best lore related characters who aren't Hive based, and Osiris' explorations of the system post Dark Vanishing of our planets seems like it could lead very interesting places once we examine it.

'Forces us to fight the dark version of ourselves' *shivers* 😳 that would have been niiiice

I would like to know where is Elsie's exo-goldfish?

Definitely would love to see you do a video in regards to the dark future that the exo stranger comes from. There’s a lot of pieces in that lore book that are so SHOCKING an interesting!!

I would personally love to hear more about the dark future with eris and Ana and elsies involvement in all of it

If you go to tower , there is no new npc talks, phrasing, everyone is the same, crow doesn't talk anything in spiders cave when collecting stuff, bounty's and such, it just doesn't tell beyond light , only in Europe you get the feel for change

I'm calling it now. Nolan North will voice every character in Destiny 4

Would love a video on the Season of the Hunt stuff, including the Bungie Immolant lore and the beginning of the in game stuff. Thanks for the vids as always :D

This is good! If im in the mood to listen then i want to feel like the games talking to me interactively on a frequent basis.

I’m fairly certain that Shin Malphur is voiced by Crispin Freeman, not Matt Mercer

They can easily do a voice for each race with only one actor, just add some elements and slight effects to the recordings to turn the same voice lines into Exo and Awoken, you can add some mechanical/robotic effects to the Exo voice, and some ethereal/slight reverbs in the Awoken voice.

I’d love to hear more about Eramis!

I want you to do Elsie's dark timeline. I am curently reading it as I unlock and I am loving the story and it's implications.

I was team Darkness until BL droped, read lore and heared Ghosts, Varixes and Elsies dialogue.

I like how even the text at 17:54 has the byf font

More of Osiris & Saint - 14 please. I love these 2 characters and their history.

Agreed - Eramis needed to have more impact on the game before the DLC. Fallen raiding parties appearing in different locations live Xivu Arath in the Dreaming City, more mentions, even name dropping her and implying her influence more. She just felt very static, like another stepping stone for us on our way to the Hive Gods again