@@KhoaLe-uc2ny that’s possibly the stupidest thing I’ve heard anyone say about any tank. The comet had over 100mm of armour, the Cromwell had 76mm. Not only where they mechanically different but they where aesthetically different as well.
Reply to PATRONSKiii: Yes, unfortunately a British equivalent to the T-34-76 but entering service at the same time as the T-34-85.The Comet is what the Cromwell should have been from the start. :(
yerever what you are refering to is the comet all cromwells had no return rollers as they used christie suspension on them and christie suspension had track that was this slack
if possible, we badly need the specs on the reverse speeds of both the Cromwell I & V, as well as for the Comet in the game War Thunder. They (the Russians at Gaijin) have it set to just 3mph! Which makes it impossible to reverse back from getting shot. So please, if anyone has the official specs, please post it here: forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/296739-profile-cromwell-mk-i/page-2
Such a shame we couldn't get the 17 pounder in this tank! It would have been amazing! The Comet was a good little tank, but that had the OQF 77mm. (76.2mm) Which was a L50 version of the 76.2, L55 17 pounder gun. OQF had a smaller breech and shorter rounds to fit it into the comets turret. If we had introduced a sloped front as well, it would have been brilliant! But we all know why that was?!
The Tiger had vertical armour, as did the Churchill, but both were strong enough to resist the anti-tank guns available when designed. Sloped armour, and wide tracks, meant a tank lost space inside or added needless weight. It also was slower to make as angled faces was speedy to manufacture. Making tanks fast was a key point in WW2. The Comet and Cromwell were only intermin tanks until the 'universal' tanks, the Centurion came along. The Centurion was the last of the WW2 cruisers. You have to take into account the poor HP tank engines produced in the early war. Sloped armour meant tanks could be lighter, but consumed internal space. The introduction of the RR Meteor tank engine, a converted Merlin, radically changed matters. Cheaper, thicker, vertical armour could be fitted as pulling the weight of then tank was not a problem. The RR Meteor produced 600HP,. Far too much for the Cromwell, but fine for the Comet and Centurion. The various engines in the Shermans produced from 400-520HP as the war went on. A great cushion to fall on was that the Merlin did produce a maximum of around 2,000 HP with 1,000-1,500HP no problem for it. So HP for British tanks was no longer a problem as they had a smallish in physical size engine giving all the HP they needed. Designers then had a free hand.
Going to admit, the Cromwell has me debating if the Sherman was better. One tank has cons that the other doesn't have, and the other has pros that the one tank doesn't have.
Ethan Steffek over all I personally think the cromwell was the better tank they both have a 75mm the cromwell is smaller and faster and un like the earlier Shermans it didn't break down as much
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wolfi bau I'm sorry to say we weren't we didn't really understand tankery even though we invented it, it wasn't until the later parts of the war we started to develop the tank that we needed
Britain did have some great tanks, early war Matilda II springs to mind, late war Cromwell wasn't bad and the British 17 pounder equipped (American) Sherman "firefly" could certainly pack a punch. I think it's hard to deny the superiority of most German tanks though, and the rugged, mass produced Russian T34 design.
I wouldn't go that far. Early British tanks weren't very good, the Cov being a brilliant example of everything wrong with British supply chain management at the time. Had we produced the Comet two years earlier, my God things would've been different. Equally the Centurion (and its subsequent varaints) rolled out in '45. That tank is probably the greatest of all time considering its service record and longevity.
Allied tanks were lambs for the kill by Panzers 4 and onward . Cynical decision to equip them with M4 and Cromwell , Churchill etc . They should not have had to field such inferior tanks . Superhuman courage to face up to them at all in the tanks they had .
The Panther was meant to be a medium tank, the German equivalent of T-34, but Hitler insisted it have frontal heavy armor, and so it was 45 tons in weight instead of the planned 35 tons.
+Jon Hart The Cromwell was *de-tuned*, it was so fast. It went 50mph. I have seen a picture of a Cromwell taking off with daylight between its tracks and the ground. @John Hart Yes, the Panther was to be a copy of the T-34, and there are similarities in the looks. It was to be light and fast and also cheap & fast to make.