I liked how Eep's father wasn't sad about her daughter leaving WITH a boy like a lot of portray the fathers, but he was being sad about his baby leaving 😭
I like that even though they had Grug be the one to be slow to adapt to new environments they still kept his growth from the first movie (which is related to him still being upset about Eep leaving but no longer being anxious about her leaving *with Guy*)
No one ever seems to notice these things that bothered me (1st movie also guys this is just the first movie I absouloutley LOVED the 2nd one) 1. Y’all know the thing where its like pretty bad to call a girl dramatic? Well in croods the father says this: “Eep stop being so..dramatic!“ 2. The bear (forgot the name) gets hurt or whatever by not listening to her FATHER not parents 3. Apparently Eep is so bad for dropping a rock on guy when guy LITERALLY HITS HER IN THE HEAD! 4. Eep could be this strong indepented not cinderellla type girl who dont need no man, well eep does need a man cause we learn she gets a crush when she first learns guy is a real person Sorry this is a long comment but these are just some things I can think of right now that always made me feel weird or annoyed/bothered me
YESSS, THISSSS, WOMEN CAN BE PHYSICALLY MASCULINE *AND* FEMININE (I have nothing wrong with masculine women or tomboys, but this trope can be so overused to the point of no return and very few pieces of media do it correctly)
@@_ideatrash yeah, which is sad because I know plenty of tomboy girl characters that are fan favorites but this trope can be very overused and stereotyped to the point where it’s annoying and disliked by many
They made it seems so normal which makes me appreciate the film even more. (Tbh this isn’t groundbreaking stuff, I mean I’m sure that plenty of films do the breaking gender norms trope but the croods 1 and 2 is an underrated film that doesn’t seem shallow and corporate like some other films)
Wait does this mean that they pass the test thing The one where two female characters can go without talking about a boy for like 5 minutes? (I swear I'm not being sarcastic there is an actual test I just can't remember the name)
I'm so glad that they didn't do the "irrational girl falls in love with a douche" cliché. I also like how even though the men are damsels, they aren't stupid either which is a mistake most people make. Damsel ≠ Dumb@$$
@@alejandrasanchez3022 oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know we were playing the literal literature game and that everyone would be on the same page as I was, but okay. You're right, they aren't damsels (young, unmarried women). They are... *deep breath* Men Boys Guys Lads Gentlemen Misters Dudes Males Fellows Chaps Blokes Joes Hombres Galoots Sirs Bucks Jacks
Yeah, At the beginning scene you can see the bettermans looking at Guy and the girl(I haven’t watched the movie). Did they try to get guy with her but she stayed a good friend with eep?
I fucking love it. I hate the portrayal of girls “being catty” and not getting along or always being competitive in the media. Like no, girls get along we are not like that. We are not “overdramatic”. And yeah, since girls are pretty much half of the population, no, we don’t ALL stick together, but we don’t all just hate each other either.
I like how Guy in the first movie isn't shamed for being much physically weaker and not a fighter. Instead he uses his smarts to help the others and in most cases that ends up being the solution to the situation instead of using brut force. Its refreshing to see a physically strong girl with a weak but very smart guy who both have their advantages and disadvantages.
its so nice to see that guy isnt stupid either. normally male characters who are weaker than their female partner will always be the silly goofball that does a ton of mistakes and the female partner has to solve them or save the male partner. im glad thats not really the case here
I recongnised the girl not being jealous and Oh my gosh I remember holding my breath but then being pleasantly surprised when they were really amicable its so refreshing
If I had a nickel for every time Ryan Reynolds played as a character named “Guy”, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice
Croods were literally one of my favorite movies growing up! So glad the sequel did justice to all the things that made the first one so good! Eep’s parents are also one of the more healthy couples I have seen in the media.
Best part about the breaking of stereotypes is that it's very clearly not pandering. All of the women are still feminine in their own ways and all of the men are still masculine in their own ways. They're all different people that are unapologeticly themselves. It really feels like a time before society before gender roles and stereotypes ever emerged.
I think the first movie also helps since the main crew, prior to the Bettermans, had their personalities established. No one went through a shift in personalities going into the second, everyone behaved pretty in character and the cast just bounced off of what the Bettermans were like.
I’m glad they didn’t fall into the “couple established in first movie becomes almost torn apart by jealousy from new character” trope a lot of sequels love to do
Same! I like prefer when they develope the caracters more or if they go trough something at least give them time to solve it instead of dragging it out qnd solving it rushing-ly at the end
I love how the Better Mom in the second movie was a mirror image of Grug from the first movie. She was the most upset about "new" things and even said that she didn't like the Crood Family giving her daughter "ideas" about leaving the safety of the walls. Guy was the one giving Eep new ideas and now Eep is the one giving new ideas to Dawn.
I really like how everyone acts normally, cuz most times when a female character is boyish or strong they constantly need to reafirm "she is strong and not like other girls" also when a male character need help and they reafirm "he is weak and need to be strong" everyone is just who they are, and its fine.
I like how they showed that there is a difference between boys and girls, but its not courage or the need for adventure. THey still showed the compassionate side of women and how strong they are in that regard while also showing physical strength.I also liked how they didn't make the men weak or needy. They didn't need to tear men down to raise women up or visversa, they showed the beauty of both genders equally and truly
I am literally so sick of sequels (for obvious reasons) but seeing this video made me so happy that this movie doesn't feel lifeless! Wow, a good sequel, imagine that. :0
oh wow it never crossed my mind the amount of stereotypes they break here 😭the movie was so good i was focused on what was goin on (anyways guy being the pet is something i never thought i'd be into 😳)
Honestly, I’m just happy Grug doesn’t go down the route of “selfish, cruel/abusive, or idiotic father” character that a lot of movies and shows like to portray dads. He’s cautious around anything new and stubborn, as he should be in a hostile world, because he puts his family first. That’s what a good dad is.
"You know, Amy, anytime someone calls attention to the breaking of gender roles, it ultimately undermines the concept of gender equality by implying that this is an exception and not the status quo" Guy's It's a Sonic Boom Reference
Okay? But you acknowledge that there is a status quo. And sadly the status quo is not gender equality especially for movies that tend to use gender cliches for cheap jokes. Better to praise the the exception and encourage others to do the same than to pretend it’s the status quo.
@@msmilan_19 this was not gender equality either tho just role reversal, what would have been equality would be portraying both men and women as strong and vulnerable at times
What I meant by this was I find it annoying when people say that gender roles are "in our nature" and that going against it is "unnatural." This video shows the complete opposite of that, kind of like an "in your face" kind of thing to people who try to enforce gender roles
@@berrykoo812 gender roles being natural is really ignoring the fact that humans are less natural than you’d think, I really doubt men evolved specifically to work in an office.
Nothing to be proud about that. Just be normal kind well mannered people. Both men and woman should be kind and gentle to each other. Only be aggressive and angry to people when it is needed. You are only hurting yourself if you try to act tough around people/partner. Look men don't want such woman who try to be tough even though they are weak and nor do woman want weak men or aggressive men. Just be normal good people. Naturally women want men who are stronger and taller which make the man more dominant in a relationship and normal woman have no problem with it unless the man abuse his power instead of being a gentle strong person who can control his emotions. A abusive person will always be abusive wheather you try to act tough or not.
@fayizat8930 "Just be normal, kind, well mannered people." "Women like very masculine men." Ummmm....Which one is it then? Because you just simultaneously said something that made sense (be kind, polite, etc) and something that just completely reinforced stereotypes ("all women want alpha males"). Not every woman is the same, just like not every man is the same; some women prefer "weak men" and some men enjoy "girlboss" women. Anyway, this is a funny video about a Cartoon film, and if that bothers you so much, why not just... Oh I don't know... go outside and touch some grass?
The men can't punch themselves out of trouble? Yes, that is refreshing, also the double meaning of them resorting to communication instead - through punching - is a nice touch 👌🏼 😂
I really appreciate both the first movie and the second movie having more female than male characters (even if in the first one it was just by 1), yet never being marketed as "girl movies". It's annoyingly rare. And I was literally so happy when there wasn't a weird love trianlg in the 2nd one. I was so sure that they'd do it as soon as dawn was introduced. Because that's what always happens.
I've always unapologetically loved the Croods, and I'm glad to see the movies are getting good attention like this. In this movie, the part where the dads fight and realize that words can be used as weapons, they hurt just as much as fists, that was such an effective way to explain the effect and importance of words to kids. Like it couldn't be made more obvious, and I think that also adds a lot of value to an animated movie, when they can teach little kiddies lessons like these, and make bigger kids cry over daddy issues 😂😂
I actually really like that thunk went into the battle too, considering it shows that even the ‘punching bag dumb teenage boy’ trope still puts up a fight to save his father and friends
I've always loved the Croods, and this just made me appreciate it more Eep was always one of my favorites, she was strong and independent, something that I had aspired to be as a kid. They never forced it either, like, Eep being the only girl who is strong and weird, or Eep trying to change herself to be like everyone else. She's simply herself, and doesn't need to explain herself to anyone, which inspired me as a kid :)
tbh, i think this is real life truth. when men said they think rationally while women think with emotion, in reality women are usually the more resourceful and practical with the mundane home lives, whereas men has too many "honor" or "norms" that makes them super complicated. I think we really are live in a world crafted by men.
I must admit that I have some mixed feelings about this movie as a sequel (the continuity errors is a huge pet peeve of mine) but this video has definitely made me see it in a new light. What I really find fascinating is that the lack of gender-norms is so naturally incorporated into the story that I for one didn’t actually think about it until you pointed it out. And that is what we want, for these behaviors to be normalized and not sensationalized.
My little brother (he's going into kindergarten) is obsessed with these movies, and that is honestly refreshing. I hope he remembers the themes from these movies as he gets older.
Croods 2 being literally one of the best movies of that year. Stole the show in a way NO ONE expected. My family watched it together and it started with only 1 person interested and 2 being to lazy to get up to a room full of people, some on the floor
@@elliejetsies My friend group created an entire Betterman cult just to mess with me, so that partially has something to do with why I'm not a fan of him Other than that, I'm really not a fan of how he and his wife try to manipulate Guy into staying with them
After you pointed all that out… I think I remember why my dad hated this movie tbh (he’s homophobic + a little bit misogynistic). But boi, watching this brought the genderfluid-ness out of me. I wanna be strong girl like Dawn (not like Eep tho? maybe cause Dawn looks less stereotypical “tomboy” then Eep) and soft boy like Guy.
This movie has a special place in my heart because I watched it the first time I took an international fly and I was laughing the whole movie! I really love it 🥺
The best positive female empowerment are the subtle ones. I didn’t even pay too much attention to the details until this video. That’s when you know it’s good.
If this movie came out today someone would go on a rant about how all movies are woke and they want to immaculate men 💀 I’m glad I don’t need to see a debate so brainrot stupid
@@EmptyMan000 I believe in traditional gender roles but God seriously they can’t let a MOVIE go, no women are not damsels in distress constantly and men aren’t immaculate godly beings tf 💀💀💀
@@EmptyMan000 Seriously?? Good lord, the men were still masculine too! And the women were feminine. Why is it not masculine to have emotions or feminine to be strong? That's what thing I like about Encanto is that Luisa is strong (typically masculine) yet they still gave her her femininity. Because you can have both
I loved this cuz the "scene for the girls" didn't felt forced in any way, everything was so smooth. My sibling and I were laughing our guts out with this movie
@@msmilan_19 what if you did a video on the rottmnt movie 🥺🥺🥺 only because I haven't seen the Mario movie yet but I want to bc apparently bowser and luigi are gay in it
@@crowbarhandler oh I’ve never seen anything related to TMNT so I didn’t think I’d understand that movie. I haven’t watched it lol As for the Mario movie 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 That is definitely an internet thing hahaha
I remember having a weird dream one night about Eep being non-binary, and Guy just having a sexuality crisis. This was before any trailers for the sequel.
