Cross-Gen Face-Off: Xbox Series S vs SSD-Enhanced Xbox One X 

It is crazy how incredibly slow the older console menus are because of the hard drive. Even if the SSD doesn’t improve the gameplay, it’s worth it just for menu and download speed lol

I put a SSD in a couple years ago. The dashboard still felt sluggish. But that combined with the latest revision of the dashboard it works great.

I put an SSD in my Xbox One (non-S) a month ago and I can confirm the dashboard is way smoother for me, as well. Haven't benchmarked game loads but it's got to be 2-3x as fast, depending on the game.

external ssds for the one x didnt help much at least compared to the ssds of the series x anx s, ik cuz i had a 540mbps seagate ssd, the fastest xbox one can support since it doesnt support usb 3.2

Yup. This is why if you're ever building your own PC, always make sure the O/S is installed onto the SSD and not a mechanical HDD. The instant response that an SSD provides is significant and the improvements an SSD provide go way beyond just load times.

Exactly!

I mean, with RT on it's like 20fps.

@@UncannyXander Depends on where you are in the game.

40 fps with ray tracing

@@VictorRuan285 Yeah that's more like it. Outside, anyway. I've seen in the castle that it's around 60.

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I have an external ssd on my one x and pro it's definitely worth using far faster load times and reduced pop in

I just kept the internal hhd empty apart from the system software and had all games on an external ssd for main games and hdd for other games.

Series s shows how important cpu and gpu synergy is. Both sony and Microsoft misunderstood this in previous generations. I still play on my one x. No reason to upgrade till i can get a series x at msrp.

@@claytonyoung1351 and by the time MSRP prices return, we'll know their plans for mid-generation products and revisions. I never understood why a huge portion of consumers buy OG versions of hardware when they could hold out for a better version of the same essential product for a competitive price. It's more efficient on the wallet.

@@oneandonlyjark definitely going to be pro models the specs of the psvr2 give that away in vr the hardware has to render two images and psvr 2 resolution is higher than the valve index so the ps5 base model won't be able to max it out.

this makes sense. series s targets a lower resolution because of the weaker gpu but then usually targets 60 frames instead of 30 on the one x because of the massive improvement to cpu. its really tough to say which one is better tbh.

@Hronis Kostopoulos series s was designed to be small and efficient yet powerful. the whole system is using under 80w when its pushed to its limits. there isnt much more they can get out of it i think.

@@JudeTheRU-vidPoopersubscribe Series S and One X GPUs are about the same.

@@MaxIronsThird it's really hard to tell because most games go for only 30fps on one X but in series S you get 60 or 120fps depending on the game. In the case of far cry 6 for example and metro exodus I'd rather play them on series S because I can't play a first person game at 30 frames anymore. But in others like guardians of the galaxy it's clearly better on one X probably due to poor optimisation on the series S. I think this year with titles like stalker 2 and starfield we will see what the S is capable of as those games aren't coming out on last gen.

@@MaxIronsThird The Series S GPU performance is closer to the PS4 Pro GPU performance with similar amount of video memory which is less than One X's video memory. In old game engines that don't take advantage of Series S current generation architecture, it will perform similar to the PS4 Pro. Cross-gen has render that fancy RDNA 2 architecture useless. In conclusion 4tflops (Series S) = 4tflops (PS4 Pro) which is a huge flop for Series S owners thanks to Microsoft ineptitude in delivering a casual console. The Series S should've been 6tflops with 12 gb of memory at the least inorder to upheld the promised 1080p up to 1440p at 60fps to 120fps.

X1X GPU is not stronger, but perhaps a bit more suitable for "last gen games". Both offer great value though

I think the one x could be ahead if it had a zen 2 just because it can 4k and 4k checkerboarding zen 2 would help

series s 60 fps > one x resolution all day every day.

@@vandammage1747 The Xbox One X GPU has much more bandwidth and more raw compute power.

@@Keysco35 and you my friend are 100% correct, I’ll take FPS over resolution any day and not only that but higher framer rates can trick your brain into thinking the game looks better so yea

So after watching this Video i have done more research into this and i went ahead and orderd a internal SSD to install on my One X Given i have decided to keep this console till they come out with a replacement for the series X, Sata 3 runs at 6 gb/s while USB 3 runs at 5gb/s my external SSD has speed up to 540 GB/S so its pushing past USB 3 the internal SSD i got is 560/GB/S and all of that will be able to be used on SATA 3 but with those small numbers difference it might be a little faster but im also doing a internal for faster booting times and also having the dashboard a bit snappier and to complete my One X build to my understanding there is no 6 GB/S rated SSD that can match the rull SATA 3 spec.

I dont think the SATA bus on the one X is 2 cause game load times are very close or a little better then a SSD connect to the USB 3.0 ports which supports 5Gb/s, SATA 3 supports 6Gb/s so the two are very close if the One X had SATA 2 which is rated at 3Gb/s then games loading times would always be slower internally compared to a SSD connected to a USB 3.0 port and thats just not the case with anyone's testing ive seen here on RU-vid.

@@rockapartie I did the internal SSD upgrade with a 870 EVO and boot up times are better and shut down is way faster....also I changed the thermo paste with Artic MX5 and a noticeable difference then the MX4 that it replaced One X running great and would recommend both products to any gamer.

ok i get what your saying and your right...thanks for explaining that for me so not only do the SATA interface matters also the CPU as in decompressing the data.

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Exactly i but 2tb in yesterday and it feels brand new super fast

Same here mate, I exchanged the HDD for a Samsung Evo 1TB SSD; it feels like an “ Xbox One X 2.0, “ haha. I honestly don't see a reason to change it to an XS.

@@uusrikas How do you replace the hard drive, I thought it wasn’t user replaceable? It would be hard to get it, and even if you do you’d have to do weird stuff to get it to accept a new drive?

@@rebeccasam3434 you can run the OS in the internal drive (still slow start up though), but run the games from the external SSD... Loading is a big difference, specially if you look at a game like FFXV. That's how I played my games on X1X until i got XSX, and I still play games off SSD with the XSX (minus the X-enhanced games, which requires the internal ssd). Internal SSD Vs external on 1X, loading a game is not significantly different (look at other Digital Foundry videos on this).

@@rebeccasam3434 it's not supposed to be but it's actually really easy. There are multiple guides on youtube to show you how to do it. I've got both an one s and X with internal ssds. Microsoft even has a "osu" file that basically reinstall the Xbox os Via flash drive so you don't have to worry about trying to image it.

Yes, for a BC solution the 1X wins. it's capable of running all your older one disc titles and any other x360 OGXbox that were made BC, plus those enhancements... 🤠

backward compatibility with your 360 and OG game discs too. If you already own a One X, Series might not be worth it. But if you were to purchase one of these two now, Series S is a way better value and better framerates. One X is still expensive.

Very good point that was not metioned here in the Video.

Saving $200 > Getting a blu ray drive.

The Xbox one s have a 4k drive and output and hdr . Only the 1e Xbox one not

Yeah, I was slightly underwhelmed with what my 3090 was pulling. I left it at 4K with everything maxed and I think it was hitting around 70-80 fps. With G-sync on an LG OLED the fast response time makes that 70-80 feel perfectly acceptable, though.

Same I have a 3070 laptop variant, and I struggle at 1080 60fps at high settings, it doesn’t scale well with nvidia cards but I got a series x so been playing it again on there

Haven’t played the game on PC, but after watching all of the related DF videos, it’s clear that the new engine for Infinite doesn’t deliver good performance considering the visuals it’s pushing. Compared to idtech or the 4A Engine, 343’s new engine is a bit of a mixed bag. Still a great game despite its technical flaws.

On my 3080 on DF's optimized, I barely pull 80-100 with frequent drops to 60 and

This is really good to know. Since I got my ps5, my OneX has pretty much just belonged to my daughter, but I think I'm going to blow the dust off it and play Infinite on Gamepass!

You might be able to sell your one x for 250 or heck even GameStop was offering 300 for it lol.

It’s a great console. I’ve got a Series X but I’m still keeping my One X. No point in getting rid of it for me because it’s another Xbox that can be used. Plus it has things the Series X doesn’t. It can play 3D media, has HDMI-In, and optical audio out which I wish the Series X had. My surround sound system uses optical audio and I have a 3D TV.

@@ultimategohan1551 That's what I did. Traded my one x for a series s. I feel like it was a good deal since I got my one X for $300 so it was like a free upgrade I hope.

You can just use one externally and see similar gains

If I remember correctly there was barely any difference between internal and external SSD for xbox one x because the CPU limitations and bandwidth

well if they only used textures from one x versions it would be a much better experience, but playing mostly one s versions of games is unacceptable given how little new gen games there are

@@paradiseb5950 exactly, the SeriesS is definitely capable of running X1X enhancements, maybe not the 4K in all instances but the enhanced textures, effects and lighting should translate over to SeriesS no problem, they seriously need to look into this, OneS code simply isn't good enough and is one of the biggest reasons for buyers regret when it occurs.

@Xbox Gaming 😂😂 exactly, others make it seem so simple

The entire point of the Series S hardware was to be able to price it at $300 and be a super cheap entry point for casual gamers, and it's incredibly amusing to watch enthusiasts totally fail to understand this

It's not, the GPU's power of the XSS is on par with the X1X. It's purely dev lazyness, ie Warzone using BASE X1 code for XSS.

So true man. It's hard going back to 30fps on any game.

@@devinforman8213 i agree!

Agreed. I don’t play 30fps anymore.

Lighting quality & framerate > resolution

You guys are weird. 30 fps is perfectly playable, I take quality mode everytime on singleplayer games or campaigns.

That would be a nice QOL improvement for digital foundry, but wouldn't be totally fair for comparisons due to them not using a stock one X.

First thing I did when I bought my One X Internal 1tb ssd and 2tb external ssd . Made a Massive Difference

@@jamezxh why not put the bigger SSD as the internal storage?

I almost didn't see the point of this video if an ssd isn't installed internally.

@@paulj5336 It'll still make the games installed on the SSD load faster, and it's way easier for those who aren't tech and hardware savvy. With that being said, just crack the damn console open! The console itself will boot up faster, and make less noise as well. I love having a large external hard drive for my PS5, but never again will will I put up with having a HDD as anything more than secondary storage.

Are you really that surprised that DF makes convenient (to some) decisions when they talk about this sort of stuff?

Quick Resume doesn't work smoothly more often than not -- until it is closer to 100% reliable I think that's why DF didn't mention it. (Also, I think their goal was to provide as close to an empirical test as possible, and XB1 generation only had a precursor to quick resume that worked even less than it didn't).

@@oneandonlyjark this thank you, usually this types of hybernating modes be it on ps5, Xbox or pc are not great, personally I always avoid them regardless of platform

Quick Resume sucks, it causes most games I've tried it with to bug out or crash, it's a serious waste of effort.

I agree. Quick resume is so good. Not mentioning it is huge.

Agreed. The improvements for an External SSD are still worth wild for hardcore gamers but with the bottle cap of the CPU and sata 3. Microsoft thought it would be too expensive to put ssd in one x because the price of SSD and the limits of the CPU wouldn't be able to fully use the SSD bandwidth. I paid $175 for a Samsung T5 external SSD in early 2019. I could have bought a cheaper one or made my own with an SSD enclosure but for some reason I still bought the expensive one...

True but you still get the advantages of an SSD which is faster loading times. Not as fast as Series S/X but faster than before. For me I would make that upgrade since loading times cutting in half seems like a good idea.

Not only hardware limitations but software too because fantastic game have been made on last gen with good optimizing and even I have to always optimize sound in music production so sound can translate to all sound devices, low and high end amps and speakers , I can not afford to relay on listeners HiFi power and let only top HiFi handling sound and there are ISO standard similar to last gen consoles, they could make 30fps and keep the graphics , pedestrians and improve popping so players can enjoy instead they ruined expectations and started a " day one fear " . Cyberpunk is terrible piece of software.

Read this then smashed my new ext ssd I got.. dang thought I had something decent. Thanks gosh

COVID probably hurt the Xbox Series S. I'm sure a lot of truly next-gen games have been delayed that could only run on Series S.

I'm not sold on that - I think the Series S is going to be a big drawback on Series X, sort of like an anchor. It's the bottleneck and it requires extensive optimization to hit 30 fps and 60 fps. All that time and effort could be spent optimizing the Series X versions which as Alex Battaglia has been saying aren't always properly optimized. They go the resolution route as opposed to the visual detail route.

@@techsamurai11 I doubt that, I think the series s isn't very far behind other than the graphical capability of the x but speaking about CPU and most of the tech they are very, very similar. Just gotta wait and see I guess

The concern is that the Series S is already being left behind in some notable ways as well. The sentiment that it's going to get stronger as the generation progresses is a misguided one. In the grander scheme, performance against previous gen consoles is of no great consequence. All that matters is how it fares against increasingly demanding games. And it's already buckling under the strain in that regard.

@@shock_me We have a Series S in the bedroom and while it ran that Matrix demo it looked awful at the distance I like to game at. It reminded me of late gen 360 and PS3 games that were buckling under the weight of modern games at that time, and looked like shimmering messes. I do like to sit a little closer to a 55 inch OLED (halfway between computer desk distance and couch distance) and soak in details. That's why I got the One X and now the Series X. It's nice to think of the Series S as an entry level casual game system, but here's hoping it doesn't hold back Series X.

I didn't. Jaguar processor vs Zen2 ? Come on.

@@glenmcl damage control enters the ring ring ring

@@phaedrussocrates7636 $499 console vs $299.... Destiny 2 or Wreckfest XSS destroys it.... What’s PS5s excuse?

Having had both, I eventually sold the newer series s as I couldn't stand the worse graphics and inconsistent improvements over last gen, not even for faster load times or quick resume. I modified the one × with an internal SSD and it will do until a series x is worth buying (games that actually make sense for the new gen).

Yeah because One X outperforms Series S. And Xbox cant afford that.

That's why i bought series X because it has one X games in compatibility

@@EfecanYSL pretty sure Microsoft would be happy either way. The game makes them money, selling you new hardware doesn’t.

@@EfecanYSL For now yes, but considering the archetype of both consoles, series s is better and will scale higher later on

@@MT_Real_ and also a disc drive and larger storage space; The extra few hundred bucks for the Series X really makes a compelling case against S.

I own all three consoles One X for my son in law, Series S for my 14 year old and Series X for me. I will take the resolution hit on Series S for the speedy load times and 60fps gameplay (in most cases).

@@AndreThompson925 I would too. My wife is getting into gaming and in our bedroom is a x1x and a modded original Xbox. I could have just left the setup alone but I bought her a series s for Christmas. She's playing on a 1080p60 LCD that's probably 12 years old at this point... Although we do now have a 65inch LG CX sitting in the basement in it's box because I upgraded the living room to a C1 with the intent of selling the Cx for like $1k. Anyways I'd take the series s over x1x any day, even with differences in some games. Plus if we ever leave the previous gen behind then both the series consoles will shine a little brighter than they currently do...

We "upgraded" to the Series S from our One Xs and regretted it. Wait for the Series X.

@@anaholamakai623 why the quotes? Series S has a wayyyyy faster CPU, faster RAM and an ssd.

Own all 3 and Series S is a better console than the 1X and was half the price.

This is the way

Preach brother.

but console players have been saying for many years, since ps3 and xbox360 generation, that the human eye can only see 30 fps max, so 60 fps is an overkill. why would you take it over 30 fps??

@@MGTOW89 it's definitely noticeable

@@DaBuffNerd I think he's Joking, a fanboy defending 30fps because Horizon was an exclusive and claiming that the human eye can't see above 30fps and that playing games at 30fps were the way they are meant to be played.

I want to butt I don't know shit about doing it xD

I also have the Series S, and a One X, and I play my games most on my Series S on a 1440p monitor. After playing on the Series S, it's hard to go back to the One X.

Going from a One X to Series S is the definition of a side grade.

@@ZackSNetwork Yeah I got a good price for my One X so it was just a swap in reality. It helps I don't own any physical games.

@@ZackSNetwork go play sea of thieves or destiny 2 on a one x compared to a SS and tell me it's a side grade

@@mantis2831 The exactly what it is though. An upgrade in performance at the cost of fidelity.

Lords of The Fallen. Yup. I remember trying to play it on OneX and how horrible the framerate was. Now on Series X. You play it the way it was intended.

Microsoft have canned that now too along with back compat and dev mode.

@@phil_75 dev mode is still here and always will be. As for back compat and fps boost the body of work is already there. No particular need to go to town on adding loads more.

@@phil_75 dev mode's never going anywhere. You need to check your sources.

Yah I mean I have a Series X but if I had to choose between a One X and a Series S I’d go Series S everytime. FPS Boost, hardware accelerated ray tracing, quick resume, ssd storage, higher framerates, and a significantly better CPU win out over a good amount but not all games in 4K with a dated CPU and 30 fps. People get so focused on resolution that they forget how outdated the cpu is. If the One X could hack it with next gen they would just keep that, but the One X is being phased out and the Series S remaining a next gen console for a reason. Even with an SSD installed in a One X, which in itself is a pointless upgrade since that would cost more than a Series X, and the One X coming in at 100 dollars more than the Series S as is, the S wins out. It is an interesting comparison though as I see a lot of people bicker about this in various forums as to which is better.

It was a monster! It could match and even beat the GTX 1070 in quite a few games. Series X is not as impressive IMO. Still powerful, but much less difference to PS5 and compromises to run 4K60.

I also switched to PC mostly because some doom 2 mods, but I'm somewhat considering going back to the simpler but powerful Xbox one x

Same I went to PC too, I run an RTX 2060 and I can run most of the newer games at 1440p at 60fps pretty well. Bioharzard Village is one such game that I was very suppirsed about. I was worried my PC would struggle but that game is very well optomized to run on weaker systems. Lookign forward to see how it runs the biohazard 4 remake too.

Facts!

The resolution is horrible on most BC games

I have SS and XB1X and some games like Dirt Rally 2.0 and the lower res go unnoticed because the X has a lot of screen tearing for DR2. Red Dead Redemption 2 looks better on the X. BF1 looks better on the S and runs a lot smoother. It’s kind of all over the place, but Red Dead is running on XB1S settings so it’s just a matter of changing that, should be easy but hasn’t happened yet.

I'm still using a 1080p screen so the series s has been a great pickup for me. Dont play a huge amount of games so the small storage isnt a big pain and have been enjoying fps boost on xbox one and especially now 360 era games. The 360 version of Fallout NV might have issues but man does it feel so much better at 60 and you just can't get that on last gen. Loving the series s rn.

@@nothing2see315 That's physically impossible, BF1 on xbox one x runs at 4k most of the time while on series s it's 900p cause it uses the base xbox one settings so it can't look better than the xbox one x

quick resume alone is worth the upgrade. I'm switching between 4-5 different games on a regular basis with only a few seconds of load time to get back to exactly where I left off last time.

That’s because a 5400 laptop harddrive in the PS4 is the slowest ever modern hard drive. I tested a 7200rpm harddrive and SSD and the gap in speed was not that big of a deal.

@@ZackSNetwork Well, maybe in an old console with a 'weak' CPU (decompression times are CPU reliant, also streaming into system memory) but when that's not the bottleneck (example on a decent PC) then there is a big difference between a (good quality) SATA III SSD and a 7200/10000 rpm mechanical drive.

@@DJ_Dopamine We’re did my comment or the OP ever mention PC? We are talking about the PS4 Pro.

My stock ps4 pros screenshot and video capture is way way slow, snails pace. Like 10 seconds behind even now

I did something similar, though I used an 860 EVO since it had about 15% better performance than the QVO drives. FFXV load times went from 5 minutes to about 25 seconds. LOL

yea but that makes no sense if someone has an xbox one x and upgrades to an SSD which is inevitably cheaper than upgrading to a series S/X. Then from a cost perspective viewpoint its a minor upgrade to the S for possibly better FPS. Might as well keep the one X with an upgraded SSD and it will continue to thrive for many years to come without needing to upgrade to the new consoles.

Xbox One X will only see support for as long as developers are supporting base Xbox One.

@@pblchldy8082 I cant imagine developers would want to continue support of consoles from 2013 for that much longer

@@pblchldy8082 the bottleneck then becomes only the CPU.

@Klumsy Kameleon most MS exclusives releasing this year won’t come to x one though. Only through streaming

No it wasn't. Every single last gen console was underpowered and struggled to maintain 30 fps.

@@PadaV4 Only certain games could do 60fps and they had to make compromises.

USB 3 vs sata 3 isnt a big deal because your still limited by the CPU and the xbox doesn't use the built in cache on the SSD. Only true gain from an internal SSD over an External SSD is the OS booting up faster and the xbox home menu being more snappy.

The one x has a 60 fps mode with higher settings.

@@deathtrooper2048 in some games, yes but not all. Gears of War games happen to be the ones that don’t. Gears 1, ultimate edition, 2, 3, and judgment are only capable of 30 fps. Series S can play WAY more games at 60 or higher than the One X. Not to say the One X isn’t powerful enough to do it, Xbox probably did this on purpose so people have a reason to buy the new consoles.

Even on my 42 in 4k tv the Series S looks great. I’m sitting like 8 feet away from it and while lower resolutions are noticeable, they eventually fade away as I am focusing on the undeniably better performance in most games.

They are finally starting to get easier to find depending on your location, give it a couple more months

@@The_MEMEphis Here in Germany I see them at ~ 590 Euro on Ebay. If in a few months it slides down to 500 ish I'll be probably getting one.

How is your internal SSD performance vs. the USB SSD performance shown in this video? How hard was it to do the upgrade?

No that's false, no amount of dynamic resolution will help ONE X frame rates, the limiting factor is CPU, the CPU is extremly slow hindering framerate stability. There are many games on ONE X with choice for performance or Quality, and almost every single one fails to maintain stable 60 cus the dog shit CPU.

Some devs have said that its not the 4tf vs 6tf that limits them from doing that, its because it has 2 less gigs of ram at a lower speed

They would just need to push the clock speeds way up, add 2gb and unify the RAM, this would require the machine to be slightly bigger, but that's not an issue. In my opinion the Series S was a poorly built machine, those improvements I mentioned would improve performance by what? 70/80%? And would cost what to Microsoft? 20$ extra? I gess they had to put a stop somewhere, but man an extra 20$ would make it such a nicer machine, the Series S just needed that little bit extra.

@@julianmaria5715 Ohh, you're absolutely right. Completely forgot about the RAM difference. Thank you for pointing. Yea, they'd need to increase the RAM size and unify the RAM pools into one for Series S to match One X's ram.

@@julianmaria5715 Yeah, from a developer perspective the lack of GPU brute force can be sorted out relatively easy. but the lack of bandwith and memory (also 2GB in the series S are incredibly slow) means a hard recode on a one by one basis for every game. It is entirely up to game developers to offer or not a patch for series S and that wouldn't change with a better GPU without sorting out the VRAM problem

@@goncaloduarte4683 Don't think that it'll end up with just extra $20. First it might be impossible to just "boost the clocks" of the GPU like you say - the current hardware can be just incapable of stable performance after 50% clock boost and it most likely will be so even since consoles have a huge margin of safety Don't think that it'll end up with just extra $20. First it might be impossible to just "boost the clocks" of the GPU like you say - the current hardware can be just incapable of stable performance after 50% clock boost. Also, the heat dissipation will increase by 50% and the current cooling solutions most likely won't be able to handle it. So, they'd have to reengineer the whole thing and it will grow in size and require a better cooling solution. No way it will const just $20. The increased size is also a bad thing - a lot of people like the Series S for being able to fit in the bag easily.

I'm having a absolute blast with mine so far, when I went from the one S to the series X this past month it's a night and day difference

@@JGarrison51285 I can imagine a jump like that would be great. Noticed a huge difference in a lot of games, the nights and neon lights in Cyberpunk just look incredible, the ray tracing and textures in a plague take are just so sublime I've spent half an hour just looking at wood lol

@@mathewdavies6472 ı think there was no big diffrence series s and x ı jump ps4 to series s and so good graphics

@@adonizss your wrong . If you play on a 4K 144fps monitor you’ll see a huge jump between the series x and s

@@russellgreen3656 ıf ı have 4 k 144 hz monitor ı buy rtx 4090 gaming pc why buying 300 or 500 dollar console

You can put internal SSD in One X...Is very Easy i have do it

@@revelator3665 I would if i didn't have a Series X already. I should have did that when the one x was my main. My buddy did and it made a difference for him. I would just buy a Series S now instead of getting an SSD for my One X. I prefer higher frame rate over resolution anyway

@@revelator3665 still not as fast as a series s, although better than the standard one X hardrive

I wish the Switch also get SSD upgrade. I’ve been playing too much Xbox Series X that when I play my Switch it just saddens me how the loading time takes.

I sold my Scorpio One X and straight swapped it for a Series S for the office. Don’t regret it one bit! Admittedly the TV in there is a 1080p set but that is ample for that room.

While I sold my One and picked up a One X a few years ago, I did it mainly for the 60 fps option for games since I mainly use it with a 1080p monitor. It was still a great upgrade. For the Xbox SS, you’re absolutely spot on. It was designed around 1080p.

Is it? Or did it became a 1080p machine? Xbox advertised Series S as a 1440p 120 machine. You can go look it up and its struggles to even hit 1080p 60 consistently in year 1. Year 2 will make it worse.

Xbox said its a 1440p machine with 60 fps to 120fps. Stop capping for Microsoft. Take the L as it is. Glad i kept my One X and also got the Series X. The Series S is a cash grab machine.

@@EfecanYSL it is true the console struggles with some games even at 1080 (but so the ps5/Series X at 4k some times even lower) also its true that it has been advertised up to 1440p but I say it's a 1080p machine because there are not a lot of tvs at that resolution. It's either 4k or 1080 u know? It's not like there are not other resolutions in between its just those are the most popular options

@@akuze12345 only time will tell, I think is going to be the more popular option specially for the "casual" crowd. It's cheaper than a switch and with game pass is a very attractive proposition

Lol I think Series S is a scam

@@subjectivereviews Nope, Series S is the best and no, that is not sarcasm.

I strangely ended up with series s and series x. And honestly the experience is the same mostly. And I find Series S even more impressive now. For example Resident Evil Village looks and plays virtually identical on both machines. The bigger difference comes from playing backwards compatible games, where on series x you’re getting the one x versions at 60fps where as on series s you often get one s versions but at 60fps. Even so, DOA 6 looks sick on series s. It’s 60fps in quality mode. It doesn’t look much different on series x, only very slightly but it’s tiny. Same with Mortal Kombat 11 it looks sick on both series s and x and again the difference is minimal. Same with the Bioshock trilogy it looks almost the same on both series s and x, so pretty on both. Bigger difference with tomb Raider trilogy but honestly they look so nice on series s and just sharper on x but the graphics are the same. Far Cry 6 felt like a bigger difference on series s and x but the fun is the same, performance is the same. I’d say to series s owners to wait until the mid gen refresh pro versions of the consoles because the series s will be just fine. I won’t stop using my series s. I have it in my bedroom now and series x in the living room. Sometimes I get eye strain from series x, something about the higher resolution does that to me sometimes so I switch to the series s and my eyes are fine 😸✌️. These are both my favorite Xbox consoles ever made. The experience is just so fun and with game pass. But the fun is the same on both systems. I get just as immersed. People bashing the series s, even digital foundry are too harsh. The reality of playing on both. It’s not that that different, really. Even the matrix demo looked great on series s and it wasn’t this crazy leap on Xbox series x, looked almost the same. Sharper on x but already very impressive on s! Series S is a little beast! Amazing system 💙

I prefer image quality.

@@lassesuurmunne8340 I really doubt that the quality on the series x is the same on the series s ,there are definitely differences in term of resolution

@@Omar-kl3xp it depends on what game we’re talking about, what games you compare. Resident Evil Village looks the same on both consoles, the graphics are the same only difference is resolution. But with that game you don’t notice any huge difference in image quality even. Far Cry 6 on the other hand looks quite a bit better on Series X, with higher graphics settings and resolution. Still looks good on Series S though. MK11 and DOA 6 look virtually just as impressive on both systems. Image quality is so good on Series S that I couldn’t tell much of a difference, it’s minimal. The Gunk again looks like the same graphics, only sharper on Series X due to resolution. Forza Horizon 5 looks incredibly good on both. If you’ve never experienced Series S you’d probably be shocked at how impressive it is. When I played Resident Evil 3 Remake that looks a lot better on Series X, the bump in resolution makes a big difference with that game. But then Resident Evil 2 Remake looks really really good on Series S, upscales very nicely. Depends on the game. I love owning both. The overall experience is very very similar. Because the OS is the same, performance is usually the same, both great with backwards compatibility although sometimes since Series X gets the Xbox one x versions if the games are not optimized for series S and X it is a nicer experience on Series X but still very nice on Series S. I have yet to find any game that isn’t a nice experience on Series S. Maybe Medium, because that has issues on every system and it maybe benefits more from running on Series X. But these are both powerful and very beautiful consoles. My best Xbox experience ever 🙏. I’ve had every Xbox and PlayStation since the first ones and started gaming on an NES. I feel like we are spoilt with these current consoles, they do so much and are amazing at playing all the older generation games too. You have every Xbox generation in one now plus the future to be excited for.

Well, in Germany it's really easy to get a Xbox One X on eBay for less then 200€. After launch of NextGen consoles I sold my old PS4 Pro for 260€ and bought a One X Gold Rush Special Edition for 180€. Since that eBay always showed me One X consoles as recommendations and the average price didn't really change since late 2020. Edit: Series S price is here at 299€.

I have all three strangely enough, just found a series x finally this week. One X is definitely not a winner in all cases since Series S often has the edge with performance and graphical features. It depends on the game so much. Playing last gen games, say like Resident Evil 2 Remake or 3 Remake, they look nicer on One X but are 60fps on Series S. But that’s also because you’re often getting the One S version and you’re not getting a version optimized for Series S. Of course now owning a Series X as well it’s the best of all worlds. But insanely hard to find, I just got lucky that a local store got some in. You had to physically go to the store and ask at the counter, no online purchases or reservations. But anyway it’s not a simple comparison to compare One X to Series S. I have both, Series S is better on a lot of titles if you care about 60fps and next gen graphical features. Series S is often slightly softer but better actual graphics. But sometimes for sure One X wins. Depends on the title. But there is no clear winner. And depends a lot on what’s important to you. The bigger problem is that cross gen will soon be over. But one x will remain a good system for last gen and backwards compatibility. Having said that Series S is not a clear upgrade from One X, it is and is not. I’d recommend trying to find a Series X if possible for One X owners. Just because those people tend to want state of the art. Series S is for people who just wanna play the games, but it is at times crazy impressive. Resident Evil Village looks virtually identical on Series S and X, I’ve tested both. That title shows that Series S can punch, and One X is 30fps. Series S is the clear winner with that game easily. But Halo, you might prefer One X. It’s a strange comparison, not that simple.

One X now became a rare collectible 😂✌🏼

I definitely agree with you on this that they should have kept the 1X as a budget console and maybe slammed it down for a better price and then have the series X as a premium console the point here would be is to continue with 4K gaming at a minimum and also continued Xbox One support with a premium console like the X

@@Lavoss05 you have cloud now and we need true next gen game

I use a Series S on a 4K tv, mainly because it’s hard to find a reasonably priced Series X at the moment, so I have a PS5 and a Series S right now, but I’m enjoying the Series S though at the moment

The RAM set for the Series S is just fine for 1080p gaming, you have 8GB of higher bandwidth for graphically intensive I/O, not sure how much of that is actually set aside for games. The bandwidth is still higher than the PS4 Pro, and that system was certainly a capable 1440P gaming system, 4K with CBR. Personally, and I can't stress that enough, I believe the Series S will be fine at 1080p moving forward, once all the features of the system are utilized. The jump in CPU power alone is extremely important, not to mention the SSD/Velocity Engine tech. The only thing I would have changed if I was Microsoft would have been 26 CUs in the Series S, exactly half of the Series X, but perhaps that was just not a possibility for reasons i don't understand. Yields may have been one of them...

@@davidandrew6855 no it's not. It's struggling to stay at 1080p/60. Gotg drops to 900p in a lot of the scenes. Series s is trash and will become weaker as games become full on current gen. Only MS games will run decently since they'll spend years to make it optimized for SS. Don't waste your money on subpar previous gen quality gaming. Save the extra cash and get the current gen console.

@CJ P. Sure. But the ones you actually want to play on aren’t. Or are, depending on your budget.

@@thedude8128 Sorry but I disagree with your assessment. I own one and it is performing fine for me and I think it will only get better as this generation goes on and we lose the shackles of last generation cross-platform gaming. As for GotG I would not base the performance of Series S on a game that has had no less than 8 versions of the game released. If memory serves even the Series X and Ps5 have to run performance mode at 1080p, hardly what I call stellar performance for such robust systems. I don't expect it to ever compete with the Series X and PS5, but it will do fine for 1080p. It has the CPU and SSD technology that is more important for current generation than TF ratings. Just my opinion, feel free to disagree.

All that performance, yet it's cheaper than a Nintendo switch