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Crown XTI 4002 vs Alpine Type R 12" Subwoofers 

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Wanted to test out a few PA amplifiers and see how well they handle subwoofer duty for home theater use. Although this line of subwoofer is designed for car audio, you can easily replace this with an Dayton Ultimax DVC and get similar if not better results.
Share your thoughts in the comments below, I have other tests I want to run on this and several other amps.

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@johnstarks5323
@johnstarks5323 4 года назад
Thanks for the demo. I have a similar setup. Using One XLS 1000 Bridge on 2 Alpine Type S 15's. I was wanting to upgrade to XTi2 2002 On four Alpine Type S 15's. I know Car Subs Aren't ideal for PA But this is for home use only and I'm willing to trade subwoofer efficiency for the low end I get from car subs. I can go down to 26 Hz in an inexpensive PA Cabinet.
@jztech159
@jztech159 4 года назад
john starks I have a similar setup like yours I have 4alpines Type r right now
@Damien-Lugnut
@Damien-Lugnut Месяц назад
O sick I have a xls 1000 they are great
@JeiceNismo
@JeiceNismo 3 года назад
Great combo bro. 👍We need more combination videos like this (PA power amps paired to car subs), and I tried this with my RF 12" DVC subs paired to a Peavey IPR DSP 3000 and it shook my whole garage. I might look into upgrading the subs to my home theater system with this setup. 👍
@SoundSpectrum
@SoundSpectrum 2 года назад
Those Peavey amps are strong too. You can run two subs with one of those just like i am here with this Crown.
@DanishSpeakerChannel
@DanishSpeakerChannel 5 лет назад
Well you just made me put Alpine type r 12 on my wishlist :D
@nbrown5907
@nbrown5907 5 лет назад
The XTI series does sub duty just fine my buddy uses and XTI 4000 for two JBL passive 518's and they rock!! I bought two EON 618 S active subs myself and they rock with their built in amps ;-) Those are both 18" subs so 12's should not be a problem.
@NObucketLIST
@NObucketLIST 2 года назад
I am amazed these speakers did not melt. The XTI series (Class AB) amps are awesome for sub signals. Much better low response than D class in my view. Can push with much less bass input. My class D amp requires the bass end of the EQ to pushed way (1/2 to 3/4 slide) up compared to 1/4 up with the Crown pushing the subs. I do not like the SUB-SYNTH mode however, way too low, not a great sound for my 15" cabinets. Bridged subs mode with channel 1 + channel 2 using both individual outputs seems to hit the sweet spot. I now have a "pop" in one of the Soundtech STS 15" 600W subs I have used for a long time. The XTI 2002 is responsible for shaking the dust out of them. Very pleased.
@analogaudiorules1724
@analogaudiorules1724 3 года назад
People who say these aren't good for subs are ignorant, these babies have a damping factor of 500 which as you know and have heard translates into very tight and precise bass.. Ill say that the power ratings are slightly inflated being rated at 1khz, but they are close enough that it simply doesn't matter "for the most part". Now in terms of overall longevity, these crown amps are reliable and powerful amplifiers, you'll have that amp for 20 years or more, their hiqnet software connectivity via usb port only makes these babies that much better, all the dsp room correction it offers is only the tip of the ice burg, you can set limiters and all that within the hiqnet software, crowns xls series is a great as well, even their top of the line macrotech i series is simply fantastic, its like the xti series on steroids, crown is the king of class d amplification, especially after partnering with texas instruments to design their drive core chips, nobody can top them in the class d game, though ill say that while their class d stuff is some of the best on the planet, their class ab amplifiers have much to be desired and are very lacking compared to their older class ab designs, especially when compared to qsc's class ab and h rmx/ rmxa amplifiers, still though, these amps are incredible, I'd never bother with behringer though, built horrible, and certainly won't sound like a crown or a qsc...
@Acoustic_Theory
@Acoustic_Theory 4 года назад
It's okay for driving subwoofers, but the I-Tech amps have even better driver control and more power. The XTi6002 is like a poor-man's I-Tech. The I-Techs are switch mode power amps, and the XTi/XTi2 series amps are class-AB but with rail switching and switch mode power supplies. At idle they don't make much heat but when they are driving subs in a live sound application the fans will occasionally come on and then go off. The Class-AB design has a bit higher output impedance (which is what causes them to have a little less woofer control) and they make more heat but they also have a "warmer" sound than the switch mode amplifiers like the I-Techs. I like my XTi4002s.
@erikbritz8095
@erikbritz8095 3 года назад
issue is the itech amps are sooo expensive
@shankarakrishnamoorthy
@shankarakrishnamoorthy 2 года назад
Hi could you please explain the connectivity between XLR and RCA? Did you solder them? Or bought them? Is there any hum noise in the line?
@r3nac
@r3nac Год назад
how did you connect alpine and crown? rca-xlr?
@Alph92
@Alph92 3 года назад
what amp would be recommended for subwoofer use exclusively?
@jeremiahmoore6121
@jeremiahmoore6121 2 года назад
Could you please explain how you wired the Crown amp to your receiver? I read your used XLR to RCA cable to connect the receiver to the Crown amp. Will any XLR to RCA cable work for this or does it need to be unbalanced or balanced? What brand of cable are you using here? What RCA port did you use on the back of your receiver it looks like the CD port? Lastly, how did get the sound to play off your computer?
@howtonotdiy224
@howtonotdiy224 3 года назад
Cool video. I'm planning to use this amp with my peerless by tymphany stw-350f. Can you recommend this amp ?
@pawew6312
@pawew6312 Год назад
This crown xti have a dsp for subwofer passiv?
@thenamescraig
@thenamescraig 2 года назад
my problem is, how do you use just one channel to drive subs and another channel for main speakers. the xlr input plugs on my crown xti 2002 are 3 wire so i cant send a stereo signal to both channel a and b. ive been stuck on this for months
@SoundSpectrum
@SoundSpectrum 2 года назад
you need to set that option in the DSP (stereo output) then each channel has its own input and output.
@jorgem50
@jorgem50 3 года назад
I have a Crown XLI1500 pushing two first gen Fosgate HX2s 10inch. Crown amps rock!
@pawew6312
@pawew6312 Год назад
How this is imposible have you dsp in crown xli?
@jorgem50
@jorgem50 Год назад
@@pawew6312 I now have one xli1500 with two 12" nvx subs and one xli2500 with two 10" nvx subs. Yes I have a mini dsp
@pawew6312
@pawew6312 Год назад
@@jorgem50 what is that i mean mini dsp
@pawew6312
@pawew6312 Год назад
@@jorgem50 this dsp is in the crown or not?
@jorgem50
@jorgem50 Год назад
@@pawew6312 no. External dsp
@blazedlegend
@blazedlegend 4 года назад
I’m so confused I been wanting to get a crown amp for my orion hccas they dual 2 ohm each which makes a 2 ohm load together or 4 ohm each sub ... but I’ve never got a crown amp because I would need mono sound right? But I see here you don’t have mono so how are your sub reacting to those notes like a real car audio sub does in car with a monoblock?
@SoundSpectrum
@SoundSpectrum 4 года назад
it is a mono signal coming from the receiver. the dsp on the front of the crown amp lets you set channel 1 to "Y" and send the signal to both channels in the amp.
@bobking7347
@bobking7347 9 месяцев назад
Still have this Amp? If so how has it been for you? Did you continue to use it heavily like this? Also, please check out audio science review and their electrical measurements of this amplifier.
@paulraju117
@paulraju117 3 года назад
I want to buy Xti4002 ampilfire. Is it okay to buy? How's the performance?
@deanhalleck5738
@deanhalleck5738 4 года назад
Hi I have been waiting for you to test the Behringer NX6000D amp to see how it compared to the Crown 4002, is that coming soon?? Thank You
@SoundSpectrum
@SoundSpectrum 4 года назад
coming soon, sorry for the long delay. had some storm flooding issues and had to re-do flooring. I am just now getting back to being able to post content.
@debubarai5975
@debubarai5975 Год назад
Yamaha px 10 amplifier Keisha hoga for live
@dick8997
@dick8997 3 года назад
Do u like the 4002? I'm about to grab a used one for 650$ to replace an inuke3000dsp that's running jbls25s daul 15" mains. Worth it?
@SoundSpectrum
@SoundSpectrum 3 года назад
I now have 4 of them if that tells you something. I also own the newer model of the inuke series and there is no doubt the Crown will run circles around that amp all day long.
@orang-utanklaus8998
@orang-utanklaus8998 2 года назад
Nice ✌️✅
@HD-vs2tn
@HD-vs2tn 2 года назад
One question, did you buy XLR to RCA cable to connect the receiver to the Crown amp?
@SoundSpectrum
@SoundSpectrum 2 года назад
sorry for the late delay, but yes thats what i use with these amps. the Crown XLi series comes with RCA unbalanced inputs on the back.
@HD-vs2tn
@HD-vs2tn 2 года назад
@@SoundSpectrum thanks man. Interested to use crown amo to power my sub but to my dismay, my cheapo sony htib receiver only has passive sub out 🤦🏽‍♂️
@blackjack4l989
@blackjack4l989 2 года назад
Hey bro I know this vid might be a little old still cool tho but I was wondering that if I run 2 skar sdr 12s duel 4ohm what wiring would I have to do with the amp to a final load
@SoundSpectrum
@SoundSpectrum 2 года назад
do you have dual 2 ohm DVC or the dual 4 ohm DVC?
@blackjack4l989
@blackjack4l989 2 года назад
@@SoundSpectrum dual 4
@andyapple9
@andyapple9 3 года назад
Hi, what sound card do you use?
@SoundSpectrum
@SoundSpectrum 3 года назад
This is one of my older rigs that i use just for music, its soundcard is an Auzentech Prelude 7.1 (www.newegg.com/auzen-x-fi-prelude-7-1/p/N82E16829156005). New it was around 300.00.
@howtonotdiy224
@howtonotdiy224 3 года назад
Can you recommend this amp ? I'm still devided by this amp or behringer nx6000d .
@SoundSpectrum
@SoundSpectrum 3 года назад
I own the Behringer nx6000d and it is no where near the output of the Crown XTI series amps. I use the Behinger just for an test bench amp.
@howtonotdiy224
@howtonotdiy224 3 года назад
@@SoundSpectrum thank you
@pawew6312
@pawew6312 Год назад
Can you connect 2 subwofers passiv with this amplifier? For the stereo mode?
@SoundSpectrum
@SoundSpectrum Год назад
that's how they are connected. "passive"
@pawew6312
@pawew6312 Год назад
@@SoundSpectrum i mean crown xti have dsp? For subowfer car audio?
@nbrown5907
@nbrown5907 5 лет назад
Did you set bridge mode?
@SoundSpectrum
@SoundSpectrum 4 года назад
no this was set as an single input and Y the signal to both channels at 2ohms each channel.
@kamilpruszynski2177
@kamilpruszynski2177 5 лет назад
Try closed box, bass reflex don't have good impuls.
@ferdinandsanchez7040
@ferdinandsanchez7040 4 года назад
Maybe replace the noisy fans
@SoundSpectrum
@SoundSpectrum 4 года назад
have looked around, and it seems its not so easy as these fans are 24 volt and not your typical PC fans that run on 12v. finding them in the correct size and voltage is quite a challenge.
@grantmackinnon1307
@grantmackinnon1307 2 года назад
i would think it would drive them even harder then that. you must not have it full tilt. that gotta be double rms/sub.
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