E1 for me. I want to try the passenger gameplay but I do not want to buy one of the more expensive ships. Those are org ships, IMO, requiring more crew to operate efficiently. So I have mostly smaller ships and the E1 will give me a gameplay loop in that category. That's a good enough reason for me to own one.
I agree with what you said but I just can't move beyond having an unapplied CCU to one. The reason is I don't want the odious Cutty Steel in my ASOP ship list. This is the first time for me that a loaner has _deterred_ a concept purchase.
Yup I grabbed a C1 for a couple reasons. Firstly I’ll hope to use it for Roc mining, it’s going to get used for high value trading and can go through small wormholes… but the main reason is the fact that I’m not a combat pilot and I’m sick of my Cutty spinning in circles because one of the engine pods was blown off!
I already have larger ships and fighters. I need an all around ship that can operate effectively with one person and that can make it across the system and carry some cargo. That leaves me with the Cutlass, Freelancer, and Spirit. The Cutlass is okay, but the facilities onboard aren't suited to long haul travel. It also has a turret that is wasted with only one person. The Freelancer is better than the Cutlass for this, but I think the Spirit is better than both. I think it will be faster and have better capabilities for constant noncombat use. It also doesn't waste capability on crew you won't have.
I think with all the confusion with even listing the DIMENSIONS of the c1, we're going to see it skyrocket $10-20 with a few more potent features than the Cutty or Freelancer when released. Honestly, I envision all the pilot guns being pumped to gimballed s3, keeping the single medium shield, but maybe having more power plant power to run the engines. Those engine blocks seem as big as an MSR's, with a fraction of the mass. That thing is going to be FAST.
Crusader is known for making huge engines (which is why originally they were not small ship makers) - so some of that is probably the assets. Thing is it can't go faster than the MSR to keep the value there.
@@LeadnapAs it is with Master modes the MSR is only 10ms slower than a Gladius scm wise and is a whole lot faster than the 400i, Corsair and Connie. Even if she's a bit slower than the msr that's still fast enough especially with the scm speeds of the Blue and Mantis.
I picked up the C1 to replace my cutlass later. Hell hath no fury compared to losing an engine on that flying bucket of bolts. Also the cost to run the C1 is going to be cheaper than running the MSR and faster to get out of when running solo.
I grabbed an A1 CCU, love it to death just from the concept! the 750$ price tag on the A2 is a bit much but the A1 seems like a good little bomber that can also be daily driven for light cargo.
I got the 3 pack for 333$ and love the loaners it has. I feel like the A1 will be great for quick ground vehicle destruction. The C1 has a S3 tractor beam which caused the SRV to get a larger tractor beam. The E1 is a nice cheaper luxury transport and just a neat private jet :)
I grabbed ccu's to all three. $10 for the c1, $5 for the E1, and $5 for the A1. I would love to have my choice of one of them later because the E1 and A1 are both very cool. And even though the A2 exists, there'll be a place for ships that have smaller bombs in the future, since you probably don't want to nuke every site you visit.
highly looking forward to the c1. I love the MSR and the crusader look but its a bit big for me, and the sizes of the cutlass and freelancer is great but they don't have the aesthetic I'm looking for. This ship is exactly what I want.
As a new player I have to say I wanted all 3. Thanks for the save. I did splurge and start with the cutty black. And I was most excited for the E class…. Because I’m bougie
Yeah, I felt excitement in the first moments of them revealing the Spirit, but within the minute I knew it was not the ship for me. You nailed one of the reasons why with the Mercury comparison. I have a Mercury and a Pisces, so the C1 isn't going to bring much to the table that isn't already covered. I also have no use for a bomber and passengers are filed under the heading of _Hell No!_
@@Leadnap When one works in cinema exhibition, one gets a first hand experience of the best and worst of people who are counted among the guests. 😉 I have enough problems at work without filling my game time with NPCs getting themselves stuck in the lift entrance or complaining about their travel experience.
I see this ship as a much needed addition. It expands the choices in the sweet spot of ships (those that have a simple floor plan, can hold vehicles & cargo and are around $100 USD). Looks may not matter but the layout of the MFDs certainly does. No matter how "good" a ship is, if the MFDs suck who wants to use it (case in point nearly all the Alien ships). Crusader does a much better job then most manufactures win my own opinion. Also, the interior look can go a long way to adding to the joy of using the ship in general. I have a C1 in Buy Back in part because I don't want the Cutlass in my Hanger. But it will be coming out once the Spirit is Flight Ready.
For me, the C1 is a mid-size daily-driver competitor to the Cutty Black and Freelance, but it's for people who want something a bit more nimble than the Cutty, and more ergonomic than the Freelancer, while losing out in raw firepower or cargo capacity. In that sense they can be compared, but I woulnd't say that the C1 and the Cutty Black are the same, as one is a courier cargo hauler (fast with limited cargo capacity) and the other one is a jack-of-all-trades raider . They both have their own niches, while proving a good platform for a mid-size starter or a daily-driver. As for the A1, it's the Tactical Bomber to the A2's Strategic Bomber/Transport. A one-trick pony, sure, and one that doesn't really have a piece of the combat pie, until we start getting places like player owned bases etc, that you do not want to destroy, but capture for yourself. You know, situations where you're going for limited damage, not wholesale destruction. My only point of worry for the E1 is the people transport loop itself, and how well it's going to pay. Even if we assume very short routes for VVIP passengers, how lucrative is that going to be with only 6 passanger seats? And what do you do when there are no VVIPs that you can cart around? I know we won't have answer to these questions anytime soon, but I simply caution to take such amtter into account when considering if you want to get this ship or not. Now, did pick a C1 as a daily-driver (does that affect my opinion? Maybe. Just a bit), and I'm keeping the E1 and A1 as in-game purchases. I like both of them, and I am looking forward to the passenger gameplay as well. Just not enough to add the ship to my collection with cash.
I mean style matters a lot for me, so a C1 as a daily for exploring wrecks and bunkers works - that shot of the tractor beam pulling in cargo in space really got me
I expect the faster speed of the C1 over the Cutty Black to be a difference-maker. With speed modes coming in, higher SCM speeds will confer a significant advantage. I got the 3-pack, it was $20 less than buying them separately. I like them all, and I'm looking forward to flying them eventually, hopefully by next year's IAE, since they're now going into production.
I got an E1 @Lead and in one word: Mix Master! My rationale was that my E1 is my more expensive version upgrade of the 300i series: even BIGGER moon roof, amenities and not just a coffee maker, but the ability to make multiple varieties of drinks. It won't be matched with a similar dining experience, but the crew, it is said, have access to a modest kitchen for expected food prep. Having separate bathroom facility access for crew vs. passengers is great! Agreed, it will be the basis for the Starliner game loop and my acquisition of this is going to temper my purchases at IAE (if getting a Corsair & Banu Defender - both on LTI tokens, CCU'ing up with store credit - and melting my Foundation Festival 100i starter pack for an IAE 100i package with 10 year insurance can be considered limiting my purchases).
@@BR1ZZO you may want to keep that 300i! I am considering picking up a 315p for the tractor beam not available on the E1. This rationale is to also have a backup ship with amenities as well as a relatively short reclaim timer. I'm still learning the game and between player error or unexpected 30k's, having an additional ship can be useful. Maybe consider just CCU'ing up from the C1 to the E1? Just a suggestion. If the E1 as I outlined will fulfill both roles, then your initial plan works!
I do like the spirit I grabbed a CCU for the E1, but they do have a bunch of weird little flaws. However it looks like the drain cutter isn’t a competitor of the colony, looks more like his competitor of the avenger series
Thank goodness none are just reskinned ships. They retain enough differences that each has some advantages over another. C1 is not a Cutty black. The black is more combat oriented and the Spirit runs for its life, pale as a ghost. Also lack of secondary entrance is a real letdown.
Great video, agree with manufacturer reskins idea. Think we need more of that. Grabbed an E1 ccu, cause that seems really fun. Also grabbed a C1 ccu in the unlikely event that I end up liking it more than the cutty. A1 seems neat but I do not care about bombing. Overall, I think the spirit introduction was a good rollout, and wish they'd stick to the small/medium variations of things we kind of already have. Instead of large concepts (cough galaxy)
I just hate the Cutlass and that's why I have a Spirit C1. My tiny home ship simply must have a toilet and proper living quarters. It's always strange to see picking apart these ships just by numbers and metrics.
Looks do matter, imho. My favorite ship is the 400i, which really doesn't have any gameplay loops. But it's so gorgeous that I take it out the most because I enjoy hanging out in it so much. And as to my personal aesthetical preferences, spirit c1 > cutty.
i would 100% take the c1 over a cutty black any day of the week just because I like the more refined look. like you said it another cutty and its just better to have more options for the same class of ship.
I understand why some players favour the C1 Spirit. I think it's a great alternative to the Cutlass Black. However, I already own several transports, including the MAX, RAFT, and Railen, so the C1 is unnecessary for me. I did buy the A1 -- even though I own the A2 -- because I've wanted a dedicated bomber for YEARS and CIG finally delivered! I just hope CIG will create an interesting variety of bomb types for the A1 to drop.
Grabbed an E1 myself. If only for the reason I collect ALL of the VIP ships in Star Citizen. No idea why I like then but I do. Just hoping the VIP passenger gameplay makes it worthwhile.
Got them 3, mostly for being LTI and C1 loaned cuttie black, the others are meant to be melted with other ships preparing for IAE, as they can be bought again in the buyback pledge(with store credits or not) when they become implemented in the game. The credits for now may be used to upgrade ships(lti tokens) that I will want to keep after test driving during the event.
I've got myself 3x3 CCUs to those Spirits (for Store Credits). From a Cutty Black > C1, Cutty Red > E1, Prospector > A1. So I can decide / try later on if I should really want one of them. Right now I'd rather keep my wallet closed, at least until IAE... ;-)
I like the Spirit concept and really appreciate the looks and options offered by this entry level ship. I have always had an interest in VIP but didn't want to buy a Connie, 600i or 890J, so the price gives Space UBERs a chance
I think it looks amazing, and I got the CCU just for that, but the main things I dislike about it are: it's big, bigger than a Freelancer, yet has less cargo and only has one entry point, the ramp. Now, while a ramp is better than an elevator, I've grown to like the Freelancer's ladder a lot. It's conveniently placed near the cockpit, too. No running through the length of the ship. So, I grabbed the CCU from a Cutty Black to the C1. Worst case, it's $10 that goes into my store credit. Best case, I have a better looking Cutty Black.
I like Crusader ships. I love the Cutty Blacks usefulness. I have a Black in my hangar, so I got the C1. I’ll CCU my Cutty to an SRV at IAE. I’ll still have the Black while the C1 is in production. Win win in my book. Side note: That Mis made me sad. Used to be so fun shredding bounties with it pre 3.14.
This made my morning. It’s the exact reason too I am glad CIG gave it to us. You can upgrade the Cutty, keeping it as a loaner, and enjoy the same features (and a commode!)
I picked up a C1 and A1. The C1 is a better cargo ship for high risk missions. I expect it will fly very well in atmosphere and fly much faster than a Cutlass. The Cutlass can’t bomb and the A2 is too much. The A1 has a limited role but I think it will do it well
bought the STV with LTI then upgraded to the e1. I will melt this later when I buy a Perseus, but I want the e1 as a buy back later on if I decide to have fun with that game loop when it is in game.
Since i have the MSR (thank you) naturally I don't need a C1, and I don't want to be a bomber. So I got the E1. It looks like it's going into production for release late next year or so according to the progress tracker thing (50 weeks). The only problem is the loner... the Drake Cutlass Coffin... I mean Steal... I mean Steel. ;) Kinda hate having it on my list. I expect to enjoy flying passengers, so the plan is to enjoy the E1 for now (in a year), and eventually upgrade it to something else, like the Genesis Starliner.
When I make my decision about getting a ship, the looks have 50% value in that decision. Which means that even if it's the best ship on the list, if it looks ugly to me, I am not gonna buy it, because I would not like using it. On the other hand, just being pretty is also not enough and needs to fill some utility too. About the Spirit, I am glad such ship id there, because it's in the ship size that was lacking the variety. Still, Crusader is not my preferred visual style. Back in the day, many years ago, I really liked the old Cutlass design (well, I would have some notes about stuff that needs to change, but still). Nowadays, if I need to pick between Cutlass and the Spirit, I would probably try the Spirit first.
I have a cutty black, but i like the C1 better. Less guns, less missles but better speed and maneuverability. And since they are in production it might not that long of a wait.
I always just enjoy IAE in game seeing the ships on display - but the teased new Drake ship has me excited, and I generally don’t like Drake ships so that says something.
@@Leadnap If it is the Cutter will be an interesting ship at this time in development but as a back from KS I am used to CIG throwing out curve balls. I hate osay it but I can of want to see more cap ships in the game, 900 years in space there has to be dozens of different kind of cap ships.
Its really not just a "reskin" just because a ship has similar dimensions and cargo capacity it doesnt mean its the same ship. Theres maneuverability, visibility, ease of use, landing, MFDs layout. I personally hate the Cutlass, the Freelancer has terrible visibility and maneuverability, so I think the C1 will be a great ship
Ship reskins is a good idea, sadly Elite Dangerous never did that and failed. Game loops and server tick need to be the priority though...not more ships. Hopefully NPC passenger hauling soon, I'd but the passenger ship for that.
The E1 really interests me but after stepping back for a day to really consider it, I decided it would be better to pick one up in game. I think the line up is a great alternative/competitor to other ships in its class. And has one in the line that is unique with no equivalent to it anywhere near its size (currently).
I agree. I was tempted buy the E1 because it seemed like the best ship to try VIP Transport gameplay (whenever it is implemented!) but I couldn't justify spending $135 USD on what, for me, will be a tertiary gameplay loop (at best). Similar to the 890J, the E1 will be a ship that I will save my aUECs to purchase in-game.
I totally grabbed the E1 and C1. E1 because I am hella looking forward to luxury passenger transport gameloop and want the lifetime insurance on the ship, yes it will take a while but meh, other things will show up while I wait. And the C1 because as much as I like the Cutty black, it don't like me none. The thing has hated me for about 2 years now (probably settings I don't know about in the game but still its annoying. Plus I like the (assumed) amenities of the C1 and the speed and looks factor as well.
I am crossing my fingers for the C1 spirit. It needs some buffs, but it's the first ship I have bought and plan to use it for a while as my all rounder. I am brand new to the game, and I think it's far more appealing than Drake anything.
Saying that C1 is like Drake Cutty, just fancyer so it does not matter is like saying you don't need car X because car Y is doing the same thing. As we all know people like variety and ability to choose something that THEY like, so not everyone has to drive Cutty or Freelancer if they want a ship with similar functions. Go agead CGI!
Obviously I'm late to watching this. But I followed this exact logic. I got an E1, because I already have an A2, M2, MSR, and despite having a genesis starliner(meaning if the E1 comes first, it'll likely be my loaner), I'm a huge Crusader fanboy. The C1 and A1 bring nothing to the table for me, and getting the E1 satisfies having another crusader ship in my hanger. I fall squarely into the passenger gameplay loop camp, and at this point I own every single pax transport ship other than an phoenix and 600i, which both technically fall under touring - not pax transport, so its unclear how those will fit into those gameplay loops.
The Spirit is a beautiful series. My wife has a Nomad and Tana right now with upgrades to a C1 and a Mako once those are in-game. And they're her only ships. It's really all she needs. My son has a 125a, 325a, and a Corsair, and he's sorted too. And for me, I have plenty of ships. But the Spirits are *beautiful.* I couldn't decide between the E1 and the A1. I'll be CCUing my Avenger Titan up to an E1 when they're live. And I've already applied my A1 CCUs up to a Prospector so I'd have that for the wipe. It's the first time I've ever bought two ships in the same line. I love my C2 as well but I don't see getting rid of it and upgrading to the A2. And I don't see buying an A2 standalone.
@@Leadnap My son fell in love with my Scarlet 325a back when his favourite colour was blue. I didn't need two game packs, so I gifted it to him and bought an LTI token to rebuy mine. Now he's 8 and, while it's not his main game, he's not bad at non-combat flying and PVE FPS. He's only shot me once. 🤣
With a Crew of 2+, it needs an Airlock or Elevator.. A lack of Second Entrance.. just like the MSR, is probably my biggest turn off.. I fell victim to upgrading to 2 of them, before the AMA 🤦😓 Lesson Learned
I scooped up a ccu for all 3 just in case... On a side note I wondered whether the E1 (and other ships designed for a similar role) will have different life support systems than your standard ship? Will the additional equipment have a physicalised components as well?
I got a c1, sounded like a cutty but made by cruseder, i love crusader and this was one that i could justify buying. Also i love crusader.(I don't care for drake.)
The C1 does have an argument va the MSR. Far lower crew needs and tractor beam. Sometimes you dont have the crew to field the MSR and a soloed MSR all to often is a dead MSR.
I don't think y'all are thinking about this as Intended I'm pretty sure its not to fill another role in the game, But that there manufacturer competing in game and there probably trying to portrait that. Just as the C1 is a comparable version to the cutty black I think looking at it as the in game manufacturers some executives at Crusader Industries were looking at Drakes cutty black smoking the market and asked why don't we introduce something that similar and snag a bit of that market as well that's how I see identical ship production here. I'm a die hard Crusader fan so If I had a cutty black before I would probably get rid of it for the c1 just because its and comparable version to the cutty black and from my favorite manufacturer. that's just my take on it, I think that's how we should look at it, Similarly to how drake release a ship similar to RSI's constellation series that have been dominating people's daily ship for some time now Hope y'all get my point
You're point is right on target, but that is in line with how I've framed it. From a lore perspective that is exactly the case - but CIG also puts ships in the game with a game design and balance in mind.
I grabbed all three and glad I did. If they are crap then they can be LTI tokens, but if they are not then I can melt some other ships and replace them with these. I have a feeling these will be worth the "pledge" though.
C1 is a cuttie, yeah, but the cuttie isnt everyones jam, looks and sanitary conditions wise. Personally I think the spirit shouldve been released flight ready. The E1 couldve been released alongside the Starliner once the gameloop is in