I feel like Linux Gaming is really starting to arrive. The fact you're installing Linux because you want that "console like" experience and nobody even blinks really just emphasizes how far we've come. This would've been unthinkable just 6 years ago.
The crazy thing is I installed bazzite on 2 different laptops, and they wouldn't even run. The first one I got into the initial boot and set up the desktop, then it never booted again. the second one never even got as far. It's weird too because I typically run Fedora off that laptop LOL
At 10:37 regarding Skyrim SE defaulting to the Steam Deck config: using “SteamDeck=0 %command%” (without the quotes) as a launch option should fix it and allow you to access the settings menu in Skyrim. This also works for other games that default to a Steam Deck configuration, and works on the Steam Deck itself too :)
I switched to Linux for all my gaming on the 3rd of July 2024, so nearly 5 weeks as of this comment, and so far it's been brilliant. I'm running a 5800X3D with a 4080 Super on Linux Mint. Cyberpunk 2077, Kingdom Come Deliverance, No Man's Sky were my main time sinks this past month, with a few others thrown in. So far all the games I've wanted to play through Steam have just worked, I made a video for some friends where I just sat and launched 16 games in a row. I also installed Lutris which lets you install and play games from the likes of Ubisoft Connect, GOG and EA etc. Got a bunch of games working like Watch Dogs and WD Legion, Assassin's Creed Odyssey and Valhalla, The Division 2. I'm blown away by the work that has been done by people to enable all these Windows based games to run on Linux. From the original ~20 years of work done on WINE, to Valve's Proton compatibility layer which has went back upstream to benefit anyone running any Linux distro, even to run games that aren't on Steam.
@@bobryan7927 No, you'd be better off buying AMD still. Anything under 500 dollars = AMD territory, ESPECIALLY for linux... because AMD costs LESS and has an average of 30% better performance than Nvidia under that price-tag... Over 500 dollars, and Nvidia starts becoming viable with RTX enabled, but without RTX enabled, AMD is like 5-10% better, or equal to Nvidia, performance-wise. So unless you give a f**k about ray tracing, go AMD, ESPECIALLY if the graphics card budget is below 500 dollars, AMD gives you way more value, and Nvidia's RTX performance is irrelevant at that price-point. AMD is better... And when it comes to driver support, it doesn't get better than amd with linux, lol, 'cus nvidia drivers are cursed AF on linux, i mean they work, they're just not part ofd the linux kernel, which is why they can have bugs and weird interactions with certain games, the same way old and outdated AMD card do, like what is shown in the video. Just buy a 5700 xt or something, it's the modern budget choice for AMD, and it gives you 30% more fps than Nvidia's price-equivalent.
You can't just add the 4GB RAM stick to make it dual channel. Only 8GB total will be dual channel then reverting to single channel. You are gimping the system for a few dollars. Use matched capacity sticks. Surprised at you ETA.
dual channel is from the motherboard, not the ram stick.. it's already mentioned everywhere in any tech forum since the last decade.. you still can use different stick even with different speed, if the motherboard supports it it'll be read as dual channel (if the speed is different between the sticks, it will follow the lowest)
@@judasthepious1499 Yeah we all know it's from the motherboard, main issue being here is that the stick ETA used wasn't the exact same RAM Stick so it could and %95 of the time will cause stability issues. This could be prevented just by not using it or rather using the same stick.
Great vid! Love that you do these budget builds, and include where you got the parts, and all the details. I'll use this as a template the next time somebody asks me about building a cheap gaming PC. Thanks ETA!
Thank you. These are exactly the sort of builds that many of us are interested in as we can't afford standard gaming hardware. In fact, I'm interested in playing the older titles you demonstrate here as cutting-edge games require cutting-edge hardware. It's much less expensive to play older games *and* there's more information available about which ones are worth playing ;).
SteamDeck=0 %command% Add this as a launch command to Skyrim, Fallout, this will allow you to edit the settings. Should work for other games. But I know it works on Skyrim/Fallout
It finally happened. An ETA Prime build that closely resembles my PC! Mine is a Ryzen 5 2600 + RX 580 which I have since 2018, I bought the CPU on launch day, and even back then the RX580s were overpriced. I remember that the price online was much cheaper, and I ended up almost paying double that and was super bummed out about it. If only I knew that this champ would outlast a motherboard. I love this PC to bits. This is the first computer I built brand new, upgraded, and maintained. I love your channel, I guess this is a sign that I'm ready to build a new system soon, but this champ just keeps on rocking it and now that I have less time to game, its more than enough for me and my 144hz 1080p monitor which have been with me since the beginning.
I would like to see the performance with Windows. It is awesome to see gaming on Linux. Also, I really like your videos on cheap gaming rigs. Keep up the great work! Love your vids.
Got it on sale at micro center. It was $10 more than 16gb and I frequently use all the computers in my house for VMs or other services. I don’t like unitaskers or “occasional” machines. I plan on running some automation VMs on it as well as the arcade stuff since I’ve got plenty of headroom proc-wise.
@@dannyking4138 you can laugh in food prices instead... (Seriously, if you think food has become expensive here lately, go watch some USA to UK supermarket comparison/reaction vids. It's shocking how much USAians are getting stiffed for things now...
Nice little Setup, have a similar in my Workshop. If mixed components don't run in dual channel, it's not so bad. More RAM always brings significantly more. True to the old saying: RAM can only be replaced by more RAM.
@AnonymousAnonymous-zp6lu Halo can theoretically be cut down into several different configurations. IIRC none have 16CU, though, and IMO I'd rather have a bigger GPU with less CPU cores, especially for laptop.
yes, ellesmere and polaris gpu is popular gpu from mining era back then that's why they not last long. but lucky for me my rx 580 still stand strong 1years and 6monts usage, bought from ex mining too
Not only you forgot that some games using steam deck settings but also you don't read comments when people already give your solution for blocked game settings in steam deck mode, few time already.
I put together something similar last year. I used an HP Elite Desk SFF with an i7-8700, added a 1TB NVME and brought over the 1TB SATA SSD I was using with my old system. Cooling was an issue emulating PS3, so I picked up an HP workstation cooler that happened to be compatible and added a pair of Noctua 40mm fans in the back for exhaust. Lastly, I grabbed a used RTX A2000 - the fan was pretty loud, but a trip to Ali Express, $20, and 2 weeks took care of that. Total cost was about $550 which is probably more than I should have spent on this setup, but it's working great with Windows 10 and booting in to Big Box (thanks for your tutorials!). With the cooling from the beefier cooler and the exhaust fans, PS3 runs perfect, and I've been able to get a lot of PC gaming out of the way with it too. Your channel was a great inspiration for the build, and I'm looking forward to several years of service out of it.
Trying this with an even older system I have put together. Throwing it into the retro game room for a bit to see how much fun we have. Bazzite seems great so far, fast, even on this i7 860 and r7 260x. Tried MGS Rising Revengeance and it held 60 fps just fine.
Personally setting up a similar system to this using a mix of older parts I had lying around and compact parts I found for a good price to use as a game console. Mine has a Ryzen 7 3800x (Boost clocks disabled for temps and lowering power draw) and an RX 480 8GB with 16GB DDR4 and a 1TB SSD It works very well for 1080p, though 4K seems to cause memory bandwidth issues. Regardless I'm excited to use it in my family's TV setup.
The thing is, ebay prices work for U.S. but for the rest of the world is a no go. The various ebay sites for each country, don't have the plethora nor the shipping cost that US does.
Cooler upgrades on some of these HP’s and Lenovos from a few years back are weird, especially for the AM4’s. The motherboard doesn’t have a standard AM4 hole pattern for the cooler.
Great video, unfortunately just by releasing the video the prices of these machines on ebay went up dramatically I think cuz I couldn't find a single one at that price
I really would like to see a Windows version, and to compare what are the FPS/Performance differences from one to the other, considering that windows version would allow you to play games that uses anticheat software
Boo resolution scale.When working with a $260 PC like this it's totally worth your time to do some GPU bios modding. I have a RX 580 Strix that I got new years ago for $160 and there are programs that allow you to test tighter mem timings (aka strap tweaking). Combine that with a bit higher tdp, a couple MHz core and mem freq bump and custom fan curve. Once dialed in the flashing process is relatively straightforward but I recommend making a bootable blind rescue flash drive just to be safe (esp if card only has single bios). For the cpu and system RAM Ryzen Master is your best friend with these HP Pavilion TG01-2xxx systems using the Erica 8906 mainboard. CPU OC is easy, but RAM OC is a hot mess. Took 4 hours to dial in dual rank ( 2x16gb 4400c17 G.Skill Ripjawz V) at only 3200c16-20-20-28-1T. Terrible timings and clock speeds for ANYTHING other than these HP's. Running 5300G at 4.6 GHz
Couple things. First off, RAM has to be matching pairs to run in dual channel. Second, if you can find a R7 3700X at a good price, that might be a decent upgrade that puts it in line with the Xbox Series S. Two extra cores, and it boosts hire. Now that it's so easy, and with the console market being the way it is, I think these consolized PCs are going to get a lot more attention in the next few years.
2 extra cores and way more threads too man, good suggestions, I'm not a fan of the RX 570/80/90s these days as they don't have driver support, id aim for a 5600XT
The power supply in these HP towers doesnt meet the spec for a 590..which is a power hungry card some of them go as low as 180W so be careful. If it were me Id go for a 1650 or rx 6500 at the most..or something a bit newer for better efficiency. I bet if you ran a burn in test on cpu and gpu combined on this setup it would crash or perform badly
@@Tony.Cez.Gaming Ive done a similar unit recently HP 285 G3 and put an Nvidia 1650 super in there which has a 100w tdp. The 590 has a 175w tdp and needs a 450W branded gaming power supply at the bare minimum.. Those weedy HP psu's arent up to it - typical tech youtuber who likes shiny new things but doesn't know what he's doing
The reason rx580/590 is so cheap is because it doesnt support directx 12.2, so some of the glitches might be from that? Last I looked only 2-3 games want 12.2. Not only for polaris, its also a problem with 5600g and 5700g vega APUs and all earlier Ryzen APUs (i own a 5700g). AMD 5600xt - 5700xt GPUs support 12.2.
I have an arcade unit that I currently run windows on for steam. I had it set to launch in big picture mode but it was buggy as hell and would often give me a blank screen with no way to get out of it. Maybe steam OS is the way to go for me
Important to note that you may run into issues if you get one of those Pavilions with an APU and try to run a dedicated GPU. - That said, the RX 5500 XT 8gb or RX 56000 XT is a much better buy than an RX 580/590 for a build like this.
With mismatched capacities, you're only getting dual channel performance up to 8gb of ram, the rest of the 12 is going to be single channel. If you want to avoid this, ensure using equal capacities for the ram
Look up flex mode, most modern cpus support it, and when combining a 8gb and 4gb stick, will run the first 4 of the 8gb stick, and the 4gb stick in dual channel, once you use more then 8gb, the second half of the 8gb stick will be used im single channel mode. Still, any pre ddr5 ram is dirt cheap, so not going with another 8 is definitely a wtf
Hey, ETA Prime, I was a bit confused about the 16GB + 4GB configuration you used, Reddit says: "if you add 4gb, only 8gb total will run in dual channel (the 4gb stick + 4gb from the 16gb stick). the rest of 12gb from the 16gb stick will run in dual channel. it's not guaranteed the cpu will use the ram in that order with priority for dual channel, so most likely it will still run in single channel 80% of the time."
I wanna know how this does at emulation too. I don't have a PC correctly and want one to do PC games and emulation, preferably GameCube, Wii, Xbox 360, PS3, and Switch.
Hi! Great video, I love tinkering with old hardware myself. I got a dell optiplex with an I5-3470 and an rx470 with linux mint. I play with big picture mode and get a pretty similar experience, not in terms of performance of course but in terms of interface, have you tried that?
This is so great 👍 Your constant enthusiasm for tech of any stripe, of any vintage, is spot on. Showing people that you can do a lot with what ya got. The need for tech overbuying is wasteful. Kindest regards, friends and neighbours.
Once again proving the near sighted PC Enthusiast & Console Fan Boys wrong when they say "you need to drop a thousand to have a decent time gaming on a PC".
it doesn't preform top notch but for a younger kid or someone looking into getting in to gaming and doesn't have the nearly $1000+ to build a top end gaming system for lower end games and I bet even emulation this is pretty dam good!
You can't get dual channel RAM with mismatched RAM sticks. They need to be the same capacity and ideally the same speed so you're just running two sticks for a total capacity of 20GB. Ryzen really benefits from dual channel. I'm also curious if that power supply can handle a 590 since they can be power hungry.
Hey Mr. Prime, do you have any idea about what happened to the Orange Pi Neo? In any case, which 7840u/8840u handheld do you think has the best price/value ratio?
@@agent47isn1 I know, that's why I included it in the criteria. It's Asus the only choice? That's way too expensive (probably worth it, but expensive nonetheless). I was expecting something at least $100 cheaper.
@Myako Asus has the best bang for your buck. Levono is OK and stay away from MSI and the Chinese companies you can stay away from unless you like spending $1k for lack of support and terrible customer service
Here's a "heh" from the people in a lot of countries where the equivalent of $500 for a 1080ti would be a good deal on the used market, where we dream of this.
What PSU is running on this one? Looks great if it can run RX 590 with no issues. I'm using Bazzite on a Dell Optiplex with i5 6th gen but the stock PSU is like 180w. I was afraid that it will not run with my RX 580 so I used my spare ATX 550 watts PSU instead. Since it doesn't fit inside, the PSU is just sitting outside the case. It works but it is janky. I might need to find something like this since sff psu are kinda expensive
I am building one with a r7 1700x+rx 580 8gb and a seagate 1tb m.2 ssd. Would a ethernet cable work? Edit: I got it all setup but I am getting really bad performance. Any idea? It is really bad like 20-25fps on a game I know runs really good on this rig.
Why didn't you just add another 16 gig stick? You realize only 8 of your 20 gigs are in dual channel? Also. why do you dislike the Steam Controller? It's so versatile you can even use it for shooters, unlike, say, an Xbox controller.
WTF is this mismatching RAM!!??? That will gimp the system to the lowest size stick!! (that 16GB stick would only have 4GB usable) I expected better of you!! I hope this was just verbal slip! Matter of fact. Just say it was. That way I wont question everything you say in the future.
