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Felt something in my heart to share. Some will view this, pick out what they wanna hear and still find a way to criticize, but I've said all there is to say. Let's keep it respectful, if not, move on.
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@matthewlively4876
@matthewlively4876 Месяц назад
Bla bla shut up
@dislikebutton4981
@dislikebutton4981 Месяц назад
If you don't like it, don't watch it. Isn't that what you fanboys always tell us about buying madden?
@MikeTGyt
@MikeTGyt Месяц назад
Pin of shame
@2024ty
@2024ty Месяц назад
Don’t watch. Go play madden. Goofy ass
@2024ty
@2024ty Месяц назад
Don’t watch then. Go play madden. Damn goofy
@astroamc
@astroamc Месяц назад
So much hostility coming from the hype crowd. ANY expression of disappointment is immediately being told to "stop crying!" These mfers are a cult at this point. We all want the game to be good, but some of us are seeing shit for what it is.
@updasco9
@updasco9 Месяц назад
a bunch of yes men i swear
@bryanbarefoot7920
@bryanbarefoot7920 Месяц назад
What is there to be disappointed about a game that hasn't even came out? The last college football game that came out was great lol nothing will ever make everyone happy that's just being unrealistic from a group of people that cry about realism. Only thing I could see people being aggravated with is that RTG doesn't have high-school play.
@danielperry6557
@danielperry6557 Месяц назад
What is bad about what you've seen so far? To me nothing. So yes it's just bitching about an EA product because you've been burned by madden. It's like being evil to ur new gf because ur ex was a hoe bag but you haven't even gotten to know the new one yet lol😂
@trellsuave
@trellsuave Месяц назад
@@bryanbarefoot7920Exactly. That's my only complaint out of everything so far is not having high school as a part of road to glory but that's not a make or break thing for me. I'm still gonna enjoy this game we've all been wanting to come back for 11 years
@BlazeOfGlory742
@BlazeOfGlory742 Месяц назад
Exactly because god forbid we be skeptical or have an opinion.
@StateoftheFranchiseGaming
@StateoftheFranchiseGaming Месяц назад
If we spent money with a company over years or even decades and we KNOW theyre track record from playing the game and those who have worked there have stated the malaise of the higher ups not giving a damn about the game's play/features; we are well within our right to be skeptical or just not be hyped about the game. Complaining about aspects that dont work, are meta or lack immersion is essential to get the games closer to greatness
@rawleigh729
@rawleigh729 Месяц назад
Straight facts idk why so many people get upset when we question this game because what has ea shown that this will be a good game
@danielperry6557
@danielperry6557 Месяц назад
It's already better than madden because of presentation 😂 and atmosphere alone. Now obviously we'll find out about dynasty and gameplay afterwards.
@zephicos6376
@zephicos6376 Месяц назад
This is what I've been saying everybody talks about how much they hate UT but if you pull up any stream it's a UT player and most kf the time that's what people play and it sucks for sure from the perspective of someone who plays career mode as my main mode but why would any company bother dropping money and time in a mode that is barely played when they have a mode that 85-90% of players play
@setx_king_fishing4198
@setx_king_fishing4198 Месяц назад
I got two complaints so far in road to glory you don’t start in high school and now you just pick your overall rating from a five star- two star and that’s wack to me I don’t want to pick my overall my play in high school should determine overall and what schools I can go to, the second complaint is that their abilities in the game, whatever happened to impact players why do they need to have abilities impact players are OP enough now your bring that madden shit in here and we ain’t ever had ability in this game before maybe I’m just old maybe I’m stuck in my ways idk
@zephicos6376
@zephicos6376 Месяц назад
@setx_king_fishing4198 Agreed the least they could have done is camp or I saw a lot of people saying 7 on 7s
@WorldTraveler70
@WorldTraveler70 Месяц назад
Just DiVine, I feel what you are saying, but what you have to understand is that there are a lot of sheep in the world. EA understands that, that's why they have the Eric Rayweathers and the other Big Madden content creators to push a narrative, and as you can see...it worked ✌🏾
@friendlyneighbor6408
@friendlyneighbor6408 Месяц назад
Finally someone says what I been saying Rayweather is bought and paid for , he sold the community out and it's sad people can't see it
@xman777b
@xman777b Месяц назад
or the game might actually be...good
@417Graphix
@417Graphix Месяц назад
Worked on what? You aint even played the game yet. Actually play it before you make any assumptions. lol
@friendlyneighbor6408
@friendlyneighbor6408 Месяц назад
@417Graphix or EA has shown me who they are for 7+ years and I won't be fooled again by amazing looking trailers
@WorldTraveler70
@WorldTraveler70 Месяц назад
@@417Graphix Read my statement again, slowly and then maybe you will comprehend ✌🏾
@Yoodoooo
@Yoodoooo Месяц назад
PPL ACCEPT ANYTHING THEY DONT CARE 😂😂
@ToyeCalvin91
@ToyeCalvin91 Месяц назад
I think the core issue with the video game industry honestly is that there are more ADULTS that play video games now more than ever. Adults are more critical because we have nostalgia and simply have seen more so we’re harder to impress. Generally adults suck the fun and innocence out of things. My little cousins play madden and 2k sun up to sun down just like i did they will grow up looking at these maddens fondly, just like i did from my childhood. Fundamentally a video game that is consumed by just as many adults as children will be picked apart and analyzed over and over
@rawleigh729
@rawleigh729 Месяц назад
As it should be picked apart, as kids we didn’t buy the game now as adults we have to pay 70 bucks and I’ll talk shit if it’s ass
@ToyeCalvin91
@ToyeCalvin91 Месяц назад
@@rawleigh729 I think the rebuttal to that is either stop playing the game and let these kids enjoy their era and play our old shit, or don’t. It’s a lot more children/teens/adults that enjoy the game than 25-30+ year olds that DONT. With each passing year our voices are getting smaller and smaller any way so why listen to the old guys lol. I realized a while ago that I’m no longer the core demographic for what they are trying to do… and I’m ok with that
@no-yj2cf
@no-yj2cf Месяц назад
This.
@DerQuanDoucett
@DerQuanDoucett Месяц назад
@@ToyeCalvin91iv never heard so much sense in a RU-vid comment in my life
@EagleZtoTheGrave
@EagleZtoTheGrave Месяц назад
​@@ToyeCalvin91I dont want to see kids getting ripped off, we know what they're missing out on because what we had was better than our parents tecmo bowl or even older Maddens on every level. We should fight for the same for the new era, this is the first time in history the product is lower quality, but we pay for more money while they also ask for microtransactions... Unacceptable.
@PmcKing12
@PmcKing12 Месяц назад
Tell the truth bro Let’s keep our expectations low. Game does look good but as you said what about draft classes? What about road to glory/ campus legend? What about being able to edit players who didn’t want to be in this year’s game. I don’t care about ultimate team. I want to be able to create my own thing
@threefiveseven
@threefiveseven Месяц назад
30 season dynastys. We had 80 seasons on PS3. So sad.
@zephicos6376
@zephicos6376 Месяц назад
you have to think though really how many people are playing more the like 10 maybe 15 seasons?
@danielperry6557
@danielperry6557 Месяц назад
​@zephicos6376 right I know I won't even get through 30 before the new game next year. The only ones upset are the actual Sim players. Who simulate everything
@zephicos6376
@zephicos6376 Месяц назад
@danielperry6557 yes which to me I don't understand I get the more "realistic" aspect of it but if I pay for a game I wanna play the game so I will play like every game
@xman777b
@xman777b Месяц назад
Seriously? Wow
@zephicos6376
@zephicos6376 Месяц назад
@xman777b yeah it's a massive drop but I think for the majority of people it won't be a big deal I don't think even with how much harder they claim rebuilding a school will be I don't think it takes more the 10 seasons
@fnomarss8873
@fnomarss8873 Месяц назад
Theres definitely no issue wit wanting something or disagreeing wit the game but some people dont use logic and just be mad for no reason theres a lot of good reason for why things arent in the game yall gotta just keep yo chin up be happy its back after 10 years they have time to listen to us with years to come to add on
@MURKGOAT860
@MURKGOAT860 Месяц назад
JustDivine is saying: if a multi-billion dollar company can't prove me wrong for 11+years, something's wrong. Can't you see?
@MURKGOAT860
@MURKGOAT860 Месяц назад
Keep speaking up for the simulation sports community. We share the same frustrations, tiredness, and nuisance. From the game company we grew up loving with their underhanded marketing methods coupled with bad gameplay, to the Kool-aid drinking fanboys of EA and 2k. Just let those taking things personal, blowing things out of proportion (making it a personal fight with you by personally attacking you instead of making complaints against companies who hand us unfinished products), and insulting you over social media in the comments over the stance you take involving the gaming industry be. You have listeners who aren't satisfied with the product we receive year after year who support you.
@CatalystHD
@CatalystHD Месяц назад
I've been on both sides of the coin and I absolutely understand the apprehension of EA and their business practices, cause let's be honest, they are greedy scumbags. But in the case of this game, what irritates me is that people just don't do their own research and it feels like some folks almost want the game to be mid to justify their disdain of EA/Madden, because everyone always wants to be right. The self-fulfilling prophecy. I'm sure people will watch gameplay today and screech 'madden reskin', dismissing the fact that there were always going to be similarities because it's built on Frostbite. Missing features is disappointing but legally, if they have to do it to make the game, I'd much rather have the game.
@carloshathcock2289
@carloshathcock2289 Месяц назад
Great title. Didn't even need to watch the video to know what it's about, because people use it on *me* all the time too. (I still watched it, don't worry) People just use this as a way to entirely dismiss any points brought up in the video because they're incapable of properly arguing their point, even if they know their stance is one of disagreement. You could say that they're "whining, complaining, and b*tching" about a perceived error in presentation or about a video which is supposedly just a bunch of inane whining. Which would be really awkward for them because it would point out that they're operating on principles literally identical to what they're accusing you of. These comments are just 'get-out-of-discussion-free' cards. Why waste time thinking of counter arguments when you could just do this instead, it's easy. The problem is the dismissiveness of this type of comment is killing discussion, which is the primary purpose of videos like yours.
@HandIeIess
@HandIeIess Месяц назад
I, along with a few other informed commenters, said it on your last video and I’ll say it again: the reason they had to remove the ability to export draft classes is because all those real world players they’re able to feature in the game this time around would have to be signed to the NFL Players Association before they can have their name and likeness appear in any officially licensed game. As it stands right now, if they’re not members the NFLPA they won’t be appearing in Madden. Ironically enough, you actually allude to that being the case at 12:45 when you mention Marvin Harrison Jr.’s absence in regards to Ultimate Team. The same principle applies on the coaches side with the NFLCA, that’s why you never saw Bill Belichick appear in Madden after 2002. I imagine the reason exporting draft classes was never an issue before was because the game never shipped with any named players. Yes, you could go in and edit the rosters and create all the guys you wanted to and nobody would stop you but the fact that that’s something that had to be done on the end user’s side gave EA some leeway. That leeway doesn’t exist now that they’re shipping with named players already in the game. No, you can’t just “sprinkle them” in a draft class with generic players; they’d all have to be generic players until the real life draftees sign with the NFLPA. And while I understand the “when there’s a will there’s a way” mentality, and actually somewhat agree, I also understand why the developers might want to be extra careful about that sort of thing considering why they had to take that decade long hiatus in the first place. Look, I get the frustration with EA Sports football titles and your apprehension certainly isn’t without merit-I haven’t touched Madden since Madden 13 and don’t plan on changing that anytime soon-but in this instance I think it’s less a matter of EA removing features just to reintroduce them later and more a matter of having to make adjustments based on the current state of affairs.
@Lakeshow_boss
@Lakeshow_boss Месяц назад
Great explanation. Thank you for typing all that and being clear. Much appreciated
@jaywood1983
@jaywood1983 Месяц назад
my issue is edit rating i am fine with no draft class even no change players names but u really think ea will update 134 teams all season no shot we shouild be able to edit rating offline if u dont play in the power 4 u will not get updated
@HandIeIess
@HandIeIess Месяц назад
@@jaywood1983 While it’s been my understanding that editing rosters will have to be restricted in regards to what you can and can’t change about NIL players I haven’t seen or heard anything to suggest you won’t be able to adjust individual player ratings. In fact, if I had to guess, I’d imagine player ratings would be one of the few things you actually can change considering you’ll likely have that happening naturally as players progress over the course of a Dynasty mode file. I can’t fathom a scenario where your guys would have their attributes remain stagnant over the course of their in-game career. And, assuming that’s the case, I’d say being able to give your favorite QB a bit more speed for offline gameplay is probably a safe bet.
@NWOWCW4Life1
@NWOWCW4Life1 Месяц назад
The gameplay should help it and all but from what I’ve heard, it does feel shortened of its potential. Alas, I don’t think anyone will take the spot unless EA goes bankrupt or someone has interest in doing sport games that aren’t for something mobile or etc.
@417Graphix
@417Graphix Месяц назад
the fact that the game is even back is an accomplishment in itself. Keep in mind NIL and stuff like that is beyond EA's control. They are trying to make a game while avoiding lawsuits. Its best to remember that.
@NWOWCW4Life1
@NWOWCW4Life1 Месяц назад
@@417Graphix Oh that I am not disagreeing with at all.
@no-yj2cf
@no-yj2cf Месяц назад
What would it take for the doubters to buy the game? It's one thing to doubt the game and legitimately not like it. It's another to doubt it and still buy it day 1 just to complain about it.
@nyfinestgully
@nyfinestgully Месяц назад
Great vid bro everything you said was spot on lol . we all have to be honest about sports gaming at this point. Ever since next gen consoles dropped"sports games specifically" have been terrible. as long as the companies like easports use the same engines/tech/microtransaction schemes, and devs every single year there will be no change. it specifically shows in madden! and it's the reason why madden always has the same issues and look every year!! 2k is falling off too, but at least 2k doesn't have a monopoly contract like easports. another company could actually make a nba game, but nobody will it bedazzles me! lol. but until the sports gaming industry moves on from investing and making new games for past gen consoles, we will never see change with these titles. it's rinse and repeat/copy and paste with fake promises and beautiful screenshots and trailers every year from easports i swear😩 tbh easports needs a whole new engine with real physics built specifically for next gen, and that would save this franchise. but don't mind me im just an upset day 1 madden player so I've been playing sports games for over 30 years and they keep getting worse every year it's sad.
@shadyrest4162nd
@shadyrest4162nd Месяц назад
I’m on that same island with you because they are still using the frost bite engine and I know physics will be terrible and gameplay
@bigtubgaming9806
@bigtubgaming9806 Месяц назад
To think a game that's not been on the market for over 11 years. Should be a masterpiece is crazy, we are not going to get everything we want,Hell in the real world we don't always get what we want.I need 5mill don't mean I'll live to ever see it, to be honest I wanted highschool to be in road to glory it's not! But what,I respect the most, EA did was grab the folks from the Modding Community and 2k Community bring them in to be our voice, while I would understand your bitching and complaining in year 2 are 3 but year one none of us deserve a masterpiece at this moment we should be grateful and praising EA for getting it right to the point we can say it's gone feel good to be able to play the game that we all love and took for granted the last time the true version was released. The things you are bitching and whining about are minor things, it's not going to break the game are make the game. You running your blood pressure up why? EA is EA nothing about them will ever change know it don't mean we except mediocrity it means we have a choice and free will, we either pay to play are we keep our money and b**** and complain without playing a game that doesn't have all the bells and whistles we think we deserve. We've been whining for years and EA still remains EA. Cheer up bruh! I get it, but I don't get it!
@jaycie3558
@jaycie3558 Месяц назад
Red dead redemption in 2010 to red dead to 2018….nah with gaming yeah you can have it all.
@deebrown9263
@deebrown9263 Месяц назад
All I wanted was to import my draft class that's it, was the whole reason I bought both back in the day , was looking forward to that again
@Domo_Skywalker94
@Domo_Skywalker94 Месяц назад
I agree too much complaining about a game thats never performed in this engine before this game, i admit some things will be a bummer to not be able to do or see but it's reasons why it isn't in the game as long as the gameplay is good and the important things are playable in the game then thats all that matters
@Gmsup788
@Gmsup788 Месяц назад
A LOT of people are glazing TF out of EA. I hope it's a great game like we all do, but let's also rememeber to be REAL and remember who EA is at the end of the day. They have earned our caution when it comes to the hype.
@dislikebutton4981
@dislikebutton4981 Месяц назад
It's just a bunch of 12yo gambling addicts jonesing for the next fix... How far sports games have fallen...
@MrAjking808
@MrAjking808 Месяц назад
@@dislikebutton4981same way you people are junkies for negativity & hate … idc for the game mode but stop whining all the time
@ervinghenderson4780
@ervinghenderson4780 Месяц назад
Problem is EA takes advantage of nostalgia. I almost expect them to do this with College Football 25.
@Solis357
@Solis357 Месяц назад
U ain't saying or doing nothing wrong, but I must say don't waste your breath. Your explaining your self to shills.
@YungOswag
@YungOswag Месяц назад
Well it’s over 10,000 college players it’s not just 32 players likeness that’s the issue. Back then it was just random faces and players numbers and the only issue that came about was colleges and then it became it was just the players issue and paying them and then they settled that issue but it’s a big difference with legal issues between college itself and then college and nfl and nfl itself. That’s the issue but hopefully one day they do figure it out it so it can work cause that was a good feat back then. That’s why I think yu kan only transfer your RTG player cause it’s not a real player. But def hope the gameplay is A1💪🏾🙏🏾🔥I’m wit you kuz it is still EA wether it’s different people working on it or what not so will see in this gameplay footage.
@MrRollup10
@MrRollup10 Месяц назад
At the end of the day, all you mf'ers are buying the game regardless, so all this squabbling back and forth online is really pointless. Whether you're part of the hype crowd, cautiously optimistic, or an EA hater. They're getting your money no matter what. So there's really only one side, the give EA your money side, and we're all on it together.
@jonpapi_2247
@jonpapi_2247 Месяц назад
While that is correct the only reason why ppl are buying them is simply because EA is the only triple A or AAAA making them. All they need is some competition and they'll bring all of those older features back but it's not gonna happen so 🤷😂.
@Yoodoooo
@Yoodoooo Месяц назад
Why do yall think ppl gone buy this game so much 😂 if it ain’t what I want I’m not buying it idc what everybody else do
@MrRollup10
@MrRollup10 Месяц назад
@Yoodoooo the same reason soo many people still buy Madden every year no matter how trash it has become. No college football game in over a decade and you really think people aren't gonna buy this game en mass. Be for real dude 😂
@Yoodoooo
@Yoodoooo Месяц назад
@@MrRollup10ppl can do whatever they want 😂 idc bruh like I said FREE TRIAL if it’s trash again like MADDEN I WONT BUY haven’t bought in 4-5 years
@MrRollup10
@MrRollup10 Месяц назад
@Yoodoooo good for you, but the vast majority of people watching these videos and going back and forth about whatever are all gonna buy the game regardless. Hence, my comment
@dakotabetteridge2705
@dakotabetteridge2705 Месяц назад
Totally get what you’re saying the only thing that I’m kinda bummed about is the RTG and how’s there’s only 5 positions to choose from yk I’m DE and it would have been cool to be able to play my position at any university but it is what it is hopefully they will listen to what the ppl want and learn from this game either way I’m pumped about the game
@zephicos6376
@zephicos6376 Месяц назад
This stuff is really bad in XDefiant as well right now over Skill Based and its bad in everything right now :(
@anthonygray6570
@anthonygray6570 Месяц назад
I think the issue is the game isn’t out yet and complaining does make ppl look crazy.
@bryanbarefoot7920
@bryanbarefoot7920 Месяц назад
Dude your the one being dismissive lol youre on here dismissing a game that hasnt even come out yet lol the last ncaa was great and ive heard no one speak bad about it. This is basically the same team building this game lol no game is flawless or perfect. Madden definitely has flaws but even after people have played this game and told people like me and you thats its not a typical ea game or madden reslin yall still on here being DISMISSVE about it. At this point we just gotta ignore yall becasue clearly yall just can not be happy with a game thah gets developed and put out on a basis. I just wish some of yall would try to do some research on how difficult it is to create a brand new game lol of course there will be some issues in madden and 2k and of course there will be some of the same things from the previous year. But as for this game we have never once allowed a team to spend years creating a sports game so i dont see how yall make the comparison.
@Lakeshow_boss
@Lakeshow_boss Месяц назад
He’s a pessimist bro there’s no winning with a pessimist. They will find a negative in anything lol
@JDivine911
@JDivine911 Месяц назад
Stop assuming shit about people. You look like a fucking jackass when you do.
@Lakeshow_boss
@Lakeshow_boss Месяц назад
@@JDivine911 don’t get upset bro. I get you have no faith in madden/EA. Your vid just gives off pessimist. Like you said if the game is trash you get to say you weren’t hyped about it and if it’s good then we have something to talk about. Literal prime example of being a pessimist lol didn’t have to assume.
@JDivine911
@JDivine911 Месяц назад
@@Lakeshow_boss Nah, you just want another youtuber to act just like the ones you watch and regurgitate the same excitement you have. You shouldn't assume like I said, because you definitely look stupid when you do.
@JDivine911
@JDivine911 Месяц назад
@@Lakeshow_boss You obviously cherry picked over what I said or didn't watch the video in its entirety. Because you missed the part when I said, "I want the game to be good" "Prove me wrong" I'm still going to be critical of what we're getting from EA because of who were dealing with. You only listened enough just so you could make the comment you just made. You're listening to argue, rather than listening to understand. You just chime in on other comments who have something negative and nothing respectful or constructive to add to the conversation.
@xavier5297
@xavier5297 Месяц назад
I have no desire to play these newer games. So glad I got a pc and now I can play ps2 Madden/NCAAFB on emulator. This console generation has been a complete disappointment.
@seanmyhre1305
@seanmyhre1305 Месяц назад
So I’m not taking advise from someone that doesn’t know there’s 30% left after 70. I’ve play every single John madden football game as they released. I’ve played every single ncaa football as they released. I’ve liked every single game. I just play them. No game is perfect. But I don’t cry and bitch about them. It’s not like you’re spending thousands on these games. If you don’t like it don’t play it. Stop bitching. I would hate to be a dev in today’s world.
@kluvsank78
@kluvsank78 Месяц назад
Agreed.
@WBaltimore
@WBaltimore Месяц назад
After today's trailer, there's NO WAY you can find something to bitch/complain about.
@JDivine911
@JDivine911 Месяц назад
Why are you on my channel waiting for my confirmation to say something good about a game you like? That's what it sounds like to me. 🤷🏾‍♂️
@WBaltimore
@WBaltimore Месяц назад
@@JDivine911: Check the stats. I’ve been subscribed to you for a while, and I actually like your content. You definitely wouldn’t say that if my comment said: “EA just dropped a trailer, and it’s ASS, so I can’t wait for you talk about it.” You’re just so used to all of your followers agreeing with you, and you can’t accept the criticism, and you know what, that’s okay.
@JDivine911
@JDivine911 Месяц назад
@@WBaltimore No one controls what I want to post when I post. You might've been subscribed for a while but you only pop out to be an asshole. Now you're trying to be a smart ass and use what I said in this video against me. If you're gonna gaslight, then fuck you, To be completely honest with you. You clearly cherry picked over what I said and missed the KEY POINT that I made when I said "Keep It Respectful". Whether you agree, disagree or agree to disagree. If you can't do that, then beat it..
@Lakeshow_boss
@Lakeshow_boss Месяц назад
@@WBaltimore facts thank you! Glad it’s not just me with this dude. He has a pessimist approach and hates being called out on it. Like cmon man
@thegentlemanphantom1040
@thegentlemanphantom1040 Месяц назад
​@@Lakeshow_bossthe fact that he's going at his own fans for this simple comment shows just how he's becoming way too emotionally invested at this point. Like gotdamn relax lol.
@antariuswilliams6217
@antariuswilliams6217 Месяц назад
Do you know where it bro, it’s criticism. You being honest and open about somethen and they can’t take it. But everyone has a right to their opinion and we can’t change that. I have my own opinion but if I say somethen like my favorite version of madden I might get slam. I know I been playing madden since 93 and ncaa in the 90s. I seen the changes from ps2 to the ps5 era. I understand and I stop buying madden. I still play one of the madden on the ps4. Even tho it still not on the level on the ps2 I still enjoy my time on one of madden on the ps4. But I respect your opinion and you just want a good football game.
@Soopology
@Soopology Месяц назад
Eh. I can compartmentalize. I can want better in certain areas of the game & still dismiss it just because I want to game this game. Have some damn fun. Idc if I’m on the masses side or the minority side. Thats the problem, “the culture has been shifted” - y’all care about the wrong things.
@Tech2k1
@Tech2k1 Месяц назад
The people who are complaining about what you said, are the reason Madden and 2k are trash.
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