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Cryotone Tubes: These Change the Way Audiophiles, Professionals & Music Lovers Live with Tubes! 

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What if you no longer had to worry about life of tubes in your hi-fi stereo?
What if you could MAX out the potential of your current amplifier? Pre-amplifier? DAC? Phono Stage? #audiophile #stereo #musicstudio
This is part 1, I cant cover everything in one video.
References in this video:
To Order Cryotone tubes
wathenspeakers...
​⁠‪@MarshMastering‬ Studios (uses Cryotone tubes for pro mastering)
www.marshmaste...
​⁠‪@decwareproducts‬ testing Cryotone tubes
• Audiophile Cryo treate...
Thanks @abxaudiophiles for putting up with my humour. (luv ya big JAMES!)
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@alwayslearning3130
@alwayslearning3130 3 месяца назад
Awesome. After your review of the Sarah. I decided I must hear it. Especially if I have to wait 3years to get it. I made the journey to Peoria Illinois (Decware). I auditioned the Sarah paired to open baffle speakers (ZF15L). I was blown away. This is the sound I have been looking for. I cannot put into words how much I enjoyed the system. Here is a fun story that may help. My wife joined me for the audition. She doesn’t listen with me, yet she indulges me when I ask her to listen to my latest tweak. After hearing a couple of songs from the Sarah/open baffle system she leans in and whispers in my ear, “You are buying this.” In closing I have to state that meeting Steve Deckert made me even more confident about the company and the components Decware produces. Steve is an artist. He knows what it takes to design excellent sounding audio. I am looking forward to getting my Sarah and Decware phono preamp. Three years, isn’t too long to wait for something this wonderful. So Cryotone tubes. Sounds like should order the full compliment and cancel the stock tubes that come with it. What say you?
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
Yesssss!! Your wife is awesome! I vote full cryotone on Sarah amp! Its Stellar!!!!
@geoffreydebrito7934
@geoffreydebrito7934 3 месяца назад
"After hearing a couple of songs from the Sarah/open baffle system she leans in and whispers in my ear, “You are buying this.” You sir are a very lucky man.
@annebokma4637
@annebokma4637 2 месяца назад
Lucky man indeed, but I'll give you one better. I went for speakers, my wife bought them for me. I know that means she has to endure me less, but I rather ignore that 😂
@Nephilim-81
@Nephilim-81 3 месяца назад
Hi. Thank you for this video. I appreciate so much your enthusiasm and willingness to take the tube plunge. I understand so well the importance of quality tubes. Cryotone I would love to try. Seem like very promising new production tubes.
@ScottoGrotto
@ScottoGrotto 21 день назад
Wonderful discussion, 2nd video, new subscriber! Also appreciate the beautiful nature backgrounds!
@hificave
@hificave 21 день назад
Welcome to the channel!
@ryanchenoweth5673
@ryanchenoweth5673 3 месяца назад
I love listening to your clips before bed 🫠
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
Lol
@HD-su9sq
@HD-su9sq 3 месяца назад
Hey Caveman, a huge thank you for this! I've had my Doge 10 for a couple of years and I'm ready to try an upgrade. I won't try 20 different tubes, I will just start and end here. Take care!
@firebladeclements
@firebladeclements 3 месяца назад
Damn background music, out on the deck watching this with headphones. I hear a greathorned owl and rush in to find out if our cats outside, wife's out there yelling for him. Apparently the cat not worry!
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
The background music ducked, and minus 16 db to my voice track. The owl is real tho.
@chatrs1025
@chatrs1025 3 месяца назад
I have a Wellsinton R800i-805 amp with the stock 274B rectifier tube (Wellsinton labeled Shuguang I guess). I rolled it to Sophia Electric Aqua2. The difference is day/night. The treble just opens up.❤ From what I heard, I think good rectifier could just supply high freq current better when those 300B called for. But I cannot adjust the 300B bias to the manual spec 120mA because Aqua2 274B can supply 220mA so the bias for each tube just go down to 110mA. My new amp is LM-845 premium using diode rectifiers so can't listen to 274b anymore.😢
@obudaifourty9
@obudaifourty9 3 месяца назад
I hear you. Let me tell you, that in my 50+ years of owning many expensive gears and many custom-made, modded pieces, and of course including tube gears I'm finally staying and enjoying class D. For several reasons you had mentioned like the available 'quality' from even well known and in the past respected brands. For the price of ONE tube or less I can roll OPT amps, that break in much easier, and LAST. I don't have to worry about searching for the matching replacement and dish out a ton of money. An OPT amps will last longer, ALL your tubes combined and won't lose quality like tubes do after a short time of months, and these OPT amps drive both my LII Audio W-15 bass drivers with ease, and the bass volume is at around the 10 o'clock position and never needs more, yet it weights under 16 lbs. total. I need a better mike to record my system's quality better, and because at times it gets downgraded by YT because they don't like some of my comments, that don't fit...their demented criteria online. Just click on my name. Anyway Class D came a long way baby................
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
Class d does sound great now.
@obudaifourty9
@obudaifourty9 3 месяца назад
@@hificave Yep... it does, and without headaches, and endangering ones the bank account 🙂
@PaoloCaminiti
@PaoloCaminiti 3 месяца назад
Eh mamma mia... stop making me spend money
@rogercoates2492
@rogercoates2492 3 месяца назад
I’ve had Walthen Crtotone au7 and ax7’s in my DecWare ZP3 phono stage for over a year. These had better air and imaging than all the previous tubes I used. Just bought a oa3wc and 5u4gb-wc. I didn’t know these were available.
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
How do you like the 5u4g?
@abxaudiophiles
@abxaudiophiles 3 месяца назад
PS- That was me watching your video reviews and being so excited, but so tired, and trying to watch the last golden seconds as you lulled me to sleep... HA
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
Whaaaaat? Lol
@tubefreeeasy
@tubefreeeasy 3 месяца назад
I found my rectifier tube in my Sophia Electric Aqua II.
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
Nice!!
@michaelgallay
@michaelgallay 3 месяца назад
I almost bought one after watching this video. but shipping cost to canada killed all my enthusiasm…😂
@HailKingCeezer
@HailKingCeezer 2 месяца назад
I wish i would have known about Crytone before buying Raytheon 5670's for my Audio Note Dac(with adapters), the Raytheons sound great, subtly better than the bugle boy logo 6dj8's i had. Now im curious about the Crytone 396a. My preamp and dac uses 6202/6x4/ez90 rectifiers, but Wathan does not offer these. My preamp uses 6072/12AY7 and my power amp uses 6550 and 6bx7, none offered by Wathan Crytone. I wonder if they do custom cryo treatments. They're apparently located in Houston where i live.
@hificave
@hificave 2 месяца назад
Reach out to them, Don and his folks are great people. They might have tubes that are not on the site.
@geoffreydebrito7934
@geoffreydebrito7934 3 месяца назад
The greatest barriers to wider adoption of tubes is the potential expense involved in tube rolling and the patience it requires to fully evaluate them. Arguably, it's a game for those who are well off and who have too much time on their hands... ;-)
@dadowns100
@dadowns100 3 месяца назад
You need to visit this year's Decfest!
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
I know. I want to.
@thomasfi1275
@thomasfi1275 3 месяца назад
Yes, tubes do matter. I bought LinLai 6SN7 and they are dead quiet and do sound superb. Looks like a good alternative. What brand are the cryotone tubes?
@abxaudiophiles
@abxaudiophiles 3 месяца назад
Production level - GOD MODE.... :)
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
God mode???? IDDQD
@kouichi4
@kouichi4 2 месяца назад
Just watched thomas's video coverage on your system. I wonder if you are to do this all over again, what would you do with 5k, 10k, 20k budget.
@hificave
@hificave 2 месяца назад
Good question! Great idea for a video
@HifiBoomer
@HifiBoomer 3 месяца назад
My birthday is coming 😉lolll great video 👍
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
Yeah I want to get you cryotone kt88
@HifiBoomer
@HifiBoomer 3 месяца назад
@@hificave would be interesting on my amp 🤔
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
@@HifiBoomer wish it was tube rectified.
@ceylonmooney
@ceylonmooney 2 месяца назад
you say you used 12BH7 made by cryotone. there is not manufacturer by that name. theyre a resell company that puts tubes they purchase thru a cryogenic process before they rebrand and resell them. im very curious what tubes they treat and rebrand--do you know what tubes they treat and rebrand? i very much enjoy your descriptions.
@hificave
@hificave 2 месяца назад
I do not officially know. I think its more than one source. Some, have looked similar to JJ. But its the sound… no comparison to JJ in sonic quality.
@ceylonmooney
@ceylonmooney 2 месяца назад
gotcha, @@hificave. the tubes on their website all look like generic chinese to me. i got real excited about seeing 12BH7. you stated they were used in mastering labs. what legit mastering labs/engineers are using cryotone tubes?
@jeffbrooke4892
@jeffbrooke4892 3 месяца назад
You could take this one step further and argue the importance of a DC power conditioner over the rectifier. Same rabbit hole with similar arguments. Pros and cons.
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
So many layers!
@jakbenardete7707
@jakbenardete7707 3 месяца назад
I have a quick question, I am about to get my Sarah amp, and I wanted to know if you're running yours through the Puritan 156 you had raved about? Also did you know that Wathen can cryo your whole amp for $600, they claim that it's even more effective than cryo on tubes.
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
Puritan is always in my system.
@jazzkatt7083
@jazzkatt7083 3 месяца назад
I’d need a tube amp w/ a mono switch if there is such a thing because I have mono vinyl and CDs. My restored Pioneer SX1250 has it and tone controls😊 I’m a tube noob!
@ceylonmooney
@ceylonmooney 2 месяца назад
you can get a phono amp with a mono switch, you can get a plug-in stereo to mono, heck you can even buy a mono cartridge
@tgdrumbeat
@tgdrumbeat 3 месяца назад
I'd like to try these with my Cayin CS55a, they have several options for the 12ax7 tube, not sure which one would be best...any advice? Thank you!
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
You like mid or details?
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
Long plate gold man. Thats what I’d do with cayin cs55a
@tgdrumbeat
@tgdrumbeat 3 месяца назад
@@hificave ummm....both? haha
@tgdrumbeat
@tgdrumbeat 3 месяца назад
@@hificave thank you! I've got a Decware Zen coming sometime too!
@ohyesitsme
@ohyesitsme Месяц назад
Cryotone tubes are mainly cheap JJ tubes so you are paying $$$$ for a simple cryo treatment.
@hificave
@hificave Месяц назад
Its not a typical cryo treatment. The cryotone process is much much more rigorous and tube selection is of an extreme nature.
@jakbenardete7707
@jakbenardete7707 3 месяца назад
What speakers are you using with the Sarah?
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
Diy open baffle using lii-song full range drivers
@jakbenardete7707
@jakbenardete7707 3 месяца назад
@@hificave thank you
@user-od9iz9cv1w
@user-od9iz9cv1w 3 месяца назад
I thought I was bad. I only use 18 tubes to play a tune :)
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
Hahahahahaha! 18!!! What a looooooser!! Just kidding. You’re awesome.
@ronniecramer1252
@ronniecramer1252 3 месяца назад
I recently bought a preowned (2004) Sira Preamp that has 18 tubes driving my 300B amp. That preamp took my system to a level I never thought possible. Plus the glow in the dark is mesmerizing.
@user-od9iz9cv1w
@user-od9iz9cv1w 3 месяца назад
@@ronniecramer1252 I also like the tube glow. Like watching a fireplace. I don't know if it is psychological that I like the sound better. But it seems to have space around the sounds that is rare in the solid state amps I have owned or heard.
@HD-su9sq
@HD-su9sq 3 месяца назад
My amp only uses 4. Are the rest for heating, or just cozy visuals ;-)
@user-od9iz9cv1w
@user-od9iz9cv1w 3 месяца назад
@@HD-su9sq I have 110W OTL monoblocks. There are 3 small signal tubes and 4 large 6c33c power triodes per channel. Then my digital source has a dual mono output with a rectifier and a triode per channel. So 9 triodes per channel. So all of the above. Good sound, visuals and a cozy source of heat.
@tosdugan
@tosdugan 3 месяца назад
Hi, I live in Sweden. Where can you buy Cryotone tubes?
@hificave
@hificave 3 месяца назад
www.wathenspeakers.com/products.html
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